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  1. #4309
    Quote Originally Posted by Questner  [View Original Post]
    Crimea as well as present territory of Kherson region became Russian in April of 1783.

    As well,

    Field Marshal Alexander Suvorov crossed the Swiss Alps between September 11 and October 7, 1799. This was part of his Swiss campaign during the War of the Second Coalition, where his Russo-Austrian forces attempted to drive the French out of Switzerland. His army faced extreme hardships, including fierce battles and treacherous terrain, but managed to escape encirclement.
    Crimea and Kherson became Ukrainian in 1922 respectively 1954.

    Crimea has a long history of being anything but Russian. Moscow's shameless and brutal imperialism doesn't give Russia right to anything but contempt.

    If you want to talk history you're obligated to start with saying that Karelia belongs to Finland and how Russia started wars and murderous war crimes to steal Karelia from Finland. Russia also need to give up Kaliningrad since it's historically not a Russian territory.

  2. #4308
    Quote Originally Posted by BloodRed  [View Original Post]
    Some are yes, and they are a big part of the government. I guess you've not heard of the Azov battalion.
    There are no nazis in the Ukrainian government, but there are a lot of nazis in Russia and the Russian government.

  3. #4307
    Putin is kind of Staline hidden son and Russians are just pieces of meat for him. Russians would live more free and better without such criminal dictator.

  4. #4306
    Quote Originally Posted by Questner  [View Original Post]
    Crimea as well as present territory of Kherson region became Russian in April of 1783.

    As well,

    Field Marshal Alexander Suvorov crossed the Swiss Alps between September 11 and October 7, 1799. This was part of his Swiss campaign during the War of the Second Coalition, where his Russo-Austrian forces attempted to drive the French out of Switzerland. His army faced extreme hardships, including fierce battles and treacherous terrain, but managed to escape encirclement.
    Crimea did belong to Ukraine since 1991 and according to Russia, til 2014 . At this time, when USSR split, Putin was only a nothing in KGB. When Russians and Ukrainians are brothers with so many mixed families, Russians should never follow such criminal dictator. Same for Israel with Netanyahou and USA with Trump.

  5. #4305
    Quote Originally Posted by BloodRed  [View Original Post]
    Crimea has always been Russian and the Crimean people voted to join Russia. I thought you folks in the collective west believe in democracy? Or do you only accept referendums that you yourself conduct and accepts the results you like, like the one in Kosovo?
    Crimea as well as present territory of Kherson region became Russian in April of 1783.

    As well,

    Field Marshal Alexander Suvorov crossed the Swiss Alps between September 11 and October 7, 1799. This was part of his Swiss campaign during the War of the Second Coalition, where his Russo-Austrian forces attempted to drive the French out of Switzerland. His army faced extreme hardships, including fierce battles and treacherous terrain, but managed to escape encirclement.

  6. #4304
    Quote Originally Posted by BloodRed  [View Original Post]
    Crimea has always been Russian and the Crimean people voted to join Russia. I thought you folks in the collective west believe in democracy? Or do you only accept referendums that you yourself conduct and accepts the results you like, like the one in Kosovo?
    This is pure Russian propaganda and disinformation. The history of Crimea is a complex; however, a unifying theme has been Russian imperialism attempting to gain total control over the last 250 years. Crimea was only demoted to an oblast in 1945 following the ethnic cleansing (by the Russians) of the Crimean Tatars in 1945. The Russians have wanted Crimea for centuries, but it has never been Russian.

  7. #4303
    Quote Originally Posted by BloodRed  [View Original Post]
    Crimea has always been Russian and the Crimean people voted to join Russia. I thought you folks in the collective west believe in democracy? Or do you only accept referendums that you yourself conduct and accepts the results you like, like the one in Kosovo?
    Wasn t Crimea belonging to Ukraine since 1991 , when Putin was nothing then. Putin didn t respect what he signed in Minsk and fucked elections, so, same level of democracy than in Russia, killing challengers. He also tried to fuck elections in Georgia, Moldavia, Romania. For sure, Putin level of democrat, when a real criminal and dictator. Russians are too blind, when Putin is their worst disease. Opinion of somebody who love Russia, so I can only hate Putin who dirty Russia. Same for Trump in USA.

  8. #4302
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    Ukrainians never attacked Russia, not even after Crimea robbery, when criminal dictator Putin attacked Ukraine. These are real facts and so many Russians killed because of only Putin.
    Crimea has always been Russian and the Crimean people voted to join Russia. I thought you folks in the collective west believe in democracy? Or do you only accept referendums that you yourself conduct and accepts the results you like, like the one in Kosovo?

  9. #4301
    Quote Originally Posted by BloodRed  [View Original Post]
    Some are yes, and they are a big part of the government. I guess you've not heard of the Azov battalion.
    Ukrainians never attacked Russia, not even after Crimea robbery, when criminal dictator Putin attacked Ukraine. These are real facts and so many Russians killed because of only Putin.

  10. #4300
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQgr3De1AUQ

    Posted today a unique interview with the President covering 25 years. Use Setting to generate captions. The translation has mistakes but generally tolerable. It's a long watch but highly recommended.

  11. #4299
    Quote Originally Posted by Tiny12  [View Original Post]
    You're sounding like some of the Russophobes here Newton. They were sure that Russia sabotaged the Nord Stream pipelines transporting its own gas. Ridiculous.
    My favorite lie was that the Russians were bombing the Zaporzhia nuclear power plant, which they control. So basically the Russians were bombing themselves. Amazing.

    Oh yeah the Russians are running out of missiles. The Russians are fighting with shovels too.

  12. #4298
    Quote Originally Posted by NewtonYork  [View Original Post]
    This war is getting out of hand. I don't understand why Russia is targeting Spain and Portugals power grid. This is getting scary guys.
    You're sounding like some of the Russophobes here Newton. They were sure that Russia sabotaged the Nord Stream pipelines transporting its own gas. Ridiculous.

    The power outage in Spain was caused by overreliance on solar and wind energy and underinvestment in the grid.

  13. #4297
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    Ukrainians are nazis?
    Some are yes, and they are a big part of the government. I guess you've not heard of the Azov battalion.

  14. #4296
    Quote Originally Posted by ShooBree  [View Original Post]
    In other words; the war will continue.

    There won't be any international recognition, the Russian assets are now Ukrainian assets and the sanctions from the EU won't disappear.

    How can Russia pretend to be the victim when they have nuclear weapons and always start wars against their peaceful neighbors, like Ukraine and Georgia.
    It is pretty funny about how Europe is saying Russia being in Ukraine is so intolerable to Europe. The scam here is the same as almost every war has been since WW2, something akin to the domino theory. If we do not stop them in Ukraine, they could be breathing down the necks of Germany in no time.

    What is so stupid is from 1945 to 1989, Russia was already in East Germany.

    And they are supposed to give up their nuclear weapons is a new one. Really? Yeah, well, you are right. If that is a question of peace, the Russians can and should keep fighting.

    The irony of the domino theory is that NATO did in fact expand until they were right on the Russian border and worse than that with NATO help, Ukraine actually invaded Russia. That the Russians want to keep a buffer zone and their nukes seems rational to me given all that has gone on.

  15. #4295

    Point of Fact!

    Russia invaded Ukraine during the previous administration as they simply watched, played cheer leader, sent the money entrusted to them to others when it would be better spent on my fellow Americans. Trump has been in office for just over 100 days. Give the man at least as long as the previous administration has to effectively do something.

    During this period of time France has not put boots on the ground to help the Ukrainians!

    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    Good solution and Russians would be more free and could live with their brothers Ukrainians. Problem is Trump is too stupid and preferred to suck him and wants to rob poor Ukrainians.

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