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  1. #4274

    It's sad

    It used to be that stupid shit in Kyiv was about bad taxi drivers or girls not being nice to you, or scams in the city, etc. Now it's all politics here. War, politics, war and then more politics. I'm sad about this. Dudes, come on man. Let's talk about pussy. Ukraine chicks. Hot Ukraine chicks!

  2. #4273
    Quote Originally Posted by Questner  [View Original Post]
    Like Yehud Barak Bennett might be lucky in his military service but not so skillful as a politician. His revelation of buying a book and seeking advice from National Security Council on the atrocities of the WWII says it all about him. He did the right thing with respect to Israelis and Jews in Ukraine however did not admit he was played in the dark as 'more serious intermediary'.

    The interview translation does not follow exactly the role of Biden as presented by Bennett. Bennett basically says Biden was in support of the continuation of the war.

    On Bucha: Until Ukrainian side comes with names of the civilians who lost their lives under the circumstances as they were described I would continue to see it as staged propaganda operation.

    There were two types of civilian deaths all very tragic: territorial defence and collateral losses. Personally I did my inquiry on the morgues records with names, addresses and ages and added them into a geo location map.

    There are also speculations about the longevity of Mr. Zelensky but I can't verify them. He did and said publicly enough to be sure he is gone.

    Any association with the nazi collaborators and their ideas and legacy is beyond the pale. Just to give you a very minor hint in comparison: How would you feel if the next US administration topples the monuments on the Arlington Cemetery and renames the streets around World Trade Center in NY in memory of the binladen crew?
    A better analogy would be memorials to Confederate War Heroes. In 1861, southern states in the USA seceded from the country and formed a new government, called the Confederacy. One of its aims was to maintain the institution of slavery. Many cities in the South have or had statues and the like, honoring men who served in the Confederate army.

    There used to be a school in a city where I lived, called Robert E. Lee Elementary School. Robert E. Lee was the top general of the Confederacy. There was a movement to change the name of the school. I thought that was a great idea. How would you like to be a black kid, attending a school named for someone who fought to keep your ancestors enslaved? Well, there were a lot of people in the community who disagreed. Two of them ostracized me because I wouldn't sign their petition to keep the name.

    But is that sufficient reason for a war? Admittedly I'm a pacifist, but I don't think so. NATO's continued encroachment to the east and the borderline persecution of some Russian speakers in eastern Ukraine would be much stronger arguments.

    As to Bucha, regardless of whether it was real, shit happens. It happened to Vietnamese at the hands of Americans at My Lai. Americans gunned down women, children and old men. They raped some of the women first. The alleged death tolls at Bucha and My Lai were similar.

    That doesn't change the fact that not that many civilians have died in the Ukraine War. The United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights puts the total 12,910 through March 31,2025 for Ukraine. The UN put the total at 45,000 Palestinians in Gaza as of December, 2024. There were about 18 X more people in Ukraine than there were in Gaza before the wars. And the war in Ukraine has been going on longer. The UN believes their estimates are low, for both places. But still it's hard for me to believe that the Russian leadership is targeting civilians, in Bucha or elsewhere. By the numbers, Israel obviously has a lot less respect for the lives of noncombatants than Russia.

  3. #4272
    Quote Originally Posted by TeFab456  [View Original Post]
    Did you ever consider Putin should pay a price for his atrocities? Or would you just prefer to be on good business terms with any warlord in the workd?
    Quote Originally Posted by TeFab456  [View Original Post]
    You are an idiot.
    And you are Slim Pickens.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snTaSJk0n_Y

    Pickens, also known as Major Kong, is the guy in the cowboy hat riding the bomb. Not to give away the plot but he's smack dab over Mother Russia and about to set off a bomb that leads to nuclear Armageddon.

    I've decided you're a better candidate for the Slim Pickens award than Paulie97. Sorry Paulie.

  4. #4271
    Quote Originally Posted by BloodRed  [View Original Post]
    Looks like Trump is ready to walk away from this whole mess created by America itself. The dictator with no cards Zelensky has rejected the American peace proposal, the Russians seem to be ok with it.

    I hope Trump makes good on his threat and walks away. This should mean no aid or support to Ukraine. IF that happens, expect a collapse of the Ukrainian front lines in the future. And IF that happens, expect the Russians to not just take 4 Oblasts (including Crimea) but 4 more.

    Zelensky is a curse for Ukraine.
    You mean the mess created by russia and their dictator Vladimir putin.

    Putin must have at least one active war during his bloody dictatorship.

    Putins love for war is a curse for russia and all of Europe to be completely honest.

    Only if putin loses his war in Ukraine can russia win. Regular russians and the russian economy will continue to suffer even (especially) if their dictator achieves his goals in Ukraine.

  5. #4270
    Quote Originally Posted by Questner  [View Original Post]
    One of the opinions is that the US wants to save face by walking away. The Ukrainian project that benefited the MIC and LNG and harmed absolutely everybody and everything else is now failing and its time to fold. Every sane stakeholder would prefer to end the hostilities. Trump is right when he says this war would not have happened should he be the POTUS. Trump would never have armed, financed and charged the AFU into the conflict. Just recently Ukraine failed to reach a deal with holders of $2. 6 billion in debt during talks in Washington this week. If no agreement is reached, the country faces default. Without financial aid and military support from the US Ukraine will eventually face a collapse even if it takes 1 to 2 years.
    It's important to understand that putin is a war dictator. During putins dictatorship he has steadily had at least one war ongoing. There's no hope of russia living in peace during putins dictatorship.

    I'm extremely thankful that Biden was the president and not the corrupt Donald trump who's most likely controlled by Russia.

    Not only would putin have started the war against Ukraine, Russia would have received help from trump.

    There's no end in sight to this war. Putin may short terms victories thanks to his control over trump; but they won't last.

    Trump's living on borrowed time just like putin and Russia.

    Putin isn't interested in peace and he's even less interested in having hundreds of thousands soldiers back in russia. If the war in Ukraine ends putin will just start a new one.

  6. #4269
    Quote Originally Posted by Questner  [View Original Post]
    One of the opinions is that the US wants to save face by walking away. The Ukrainian project that benefited the MIC and LNG and harmed absolutely everybody and everything else is now failing and its time to fold. Every sane stakeholder would prefer to end the hostilities. Trump is right when he says this war would not have happened should he be the POTUS. Trump would never have armed, financed and charged the AFU into the conflict. Just recently Ukraine failed to reach a deal with holders of $2. 6 billion in debt during talks in Washington this week. If no agreement is reached, the country faces default. Without financial aid and military support from the US Ukraine will eventually face a collapse even if it takes 1 to 2 years.
    Trump is just so senile, when his administration refused in 2018, only 7 years ago, Crimea robbery by Putin, but his too old neurons forgot. Old senile shameful for USA.

  7. #4268
    Quote Originally Posted by BloodRed  [View Original Post]
    Looks like Trump is ready to walk away from this whole mess created by America itself. The dictator with no cards Zelensky has rejected the American peace proposal, the Russians seem to be ok with it.

    I hope Trump makes good on his threat and walks away. This should mean no aid or support to Ukraine. IF that happens, expect a collapse of the Ukrainian front lines in the future. And IF that happens, expect the Russians to not just take 4 Oblasts (including Crimea) but 4 more.

    Zelensky is a curse for Ukraine.
    Ukrainians, even those who didn t vote for him, support Zelensky who has balls to resist versus criminal dictator Putin who killed so many Russians with his personnal war, and stupid shameful robber Trump who just want to rob Ukraine. All my support to Ukrainians who were already stolen Crimea which did belong to Ukraine in 1991 , when Putin was nothing in KGB at this time.

  8. #4267
    Quote Originally Posted by BloodRed  [View Original Post]
    Looks like Trump is ready to walk away from this whole mess created by America itself. The dictator with no cards Zelensky has rejected the American peace proposal, the Russians seem to be ok with it.

    I hope Trump makes good on his threat and walks away. This should mean no aid or support to Ukraine. IF that happens, expect a collapse of the Ukrainian front lines in the future. And IF that happens, expect the Russians to not just take 4 Oblasts (including Crimea) but 4 more.

    Zelensky is a curse for Ukraine.
    One of the opinions is that the US wants to save face by walking away. The Ukrainian project that benefited the MIC and LNG and harmed absolutely everybody and everything else is now failing and its time to fold. Every sane stakeholder would prefer to end the hostilities. Trump is right when he says this war would not have happened should he be the POTUS. Trump would never have armed, financed and charged the AFU into the conflict. Just recently Ukraine failed to reach a deal with holders of $2. 6 billion in debt during talks in Washington this week. If no agreement is reached, the country faces default. Without financial aid and military support from the US Ukraine will eventually face a collapse even if it takes 1 to 2 years.

  9. #4266
    Quote Originally Posted by BloodRed  [View Original Post]
    Looks like Trump is ready to walk away from this whole mess created by America itself. The dictator with no cards Zelensky has rejected the American peace proposal, the Russians seem to be ok with it.

    I hope Trump makes good on his threat and walks away. This should mean no aid or support to Ukraine. IF that happens, expect a collapse of the Ukrainian front lines in the future. And IF that happens, expect the Russians to not just take 4 Oblasts (including Crimea) but 4 more.

    Zelensky is a curse for Ukraine.
    You are an idiot.

  10. #4265
    Looks like Trump is ready to walk away from this whole mess created by America itself. The dictator with no cards Zelensky has rejected the American peace proposal, the Russians seem to be ok with it.

    I hope Trump makes good on his threat and walks away. This should mean no aid or support to Ukraine. IF that happens, expect a collapse of the Ukrainian front lines in the future. And IF that happens, expect the Russians to not just take 4 Oblasts (including Crimea) but 4 more.

    Zelensky is a curse for Ukraine.

  11. #4264
    Quote Originally Posted by Tiny12  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the explanation of denazification Questner. It makes a lot more sense than the Israeli Prime Minister's.

    In the course of the interview, the PM mentioned going to Germany, to visit Olaf Scholz. Bennett was conducting shuttle diplomacy. He said he made a vow to never visit Germany, because of the atrocities committed by the Nazis on Jews during World War II. But he made an exception for the cause of peace.

    From memory (I haven't gone back and listened to the audio again), Bennett said something like "the only way to deal with a Nazi of course is to kill him. " That would reflect his abhorrence and anger, at what the Nazis inflicted on Jews and others. Said another way, "The only good Nazi is a dead Nazi." I suspect he equated denazification with killing "Nazis" in the Ukrainian leadership based on his prejudices, not on what Putin told him.

    And before one of our fellow board members jumps down my throat, I'm not calling Zelensky a Nazi.
    Like Yehud Barak Bennett might be lucky in his military service but not so skillful as a politician. His revelation of buying a book and seeking advice from National Security Council on the atrocities of the WWII says it all about him. He did the right thing with respect to Israelis and Jews in Ukraine however did not admit he was played in the dark as 'more serious intermediary'.

    The interview translation does not follow exactly the role of Biden as presented by Bennett. Bennett basically says Biden was in support of the continuation of the war.

    On Bucha: Until Ukrainian side comes with names of the civilians who lost their lives under the circumstances as they were described I would continue to see it as staged propaganda operation.

    There were two types of civilian deaths all very tragic: territorial defence and collateral losses. Personally I did my inquiry on the morgues records with names, addresses and ages and added them into a geo location map.

    There are also speculations about the longevity of Mr. Zelensky but I can't verify them. He did and said publicly enough to be sure he is gone.

    Any association with the nazi collaborators and their ideas and legacy is beyond the pale. Just to give you a very minor hint in comparison: How would you feel if the next US administration topples the monuments on the Arlington Cemetery and renames the streets around World Trade Center in NY in memory of the binladen crew?

  12. #4263
    Quote Originally Posted by Questner  [View Original Post]
    At the interview below:

    "Denazification" of Ukraine should be understood as "prohibition of all neo-Nazi movements" and the need to "get rid of those people who leave this theory and practice in life and try to preserve it," Putin explained in an interview with Carlson. The President noted that this problem was discussed during the talks in Istanbul in the spring of 2022, an agreement was even reached to ban the cultivation of neo-Nazism in Ukraine, but Kyiv withdrew from the negotiation process.

    Vladimir Putin, in an interview with Tucker Carlson, at the request of the American journalist, explained the meaning of the word "denazification" - this, according to him, is "the prohibition of all neo-Nazi movements. " The transcript of their conversation was published on the Kremlin website. The president repeated the thesis that Russia has not yet achieved the goals of the "military special operation"* in Ukraine.

    Putin also explained the reasons why, in his opinion, denazification was necessary. The head of state noted that after the start of World War II, part of the "nationalistically minded elite" began collaborating with Adolf Hitler because they thought that he would "bring them freedom. " And although the shoots of nationalism are now being "crushed" in many countries, this is not happening in Ukraine: there, according to Putin, people who "destroyed Poles, Jews and Russians" were made into national heroes. "We need to get rid of those people who leave this theory and practice in life and try to preserve it. That is what denazification is. That is what we mean by it," the head of state emphasized.

    Putin noted that denazification was one of the issues discussed during the negotiations in February-March 2022. According to him, during these negotiations an agreement was reached that "neo-Nazism will not be cultivated in Ukraine", it was to be prohibited at the legislative level. But as a result, Kyiv withdrew from the negotiation process, Ukraine "threw out all these agreements and accepted the instructions of Western countries under its salute", Putin concluded.

    At the end of 2023, during a direct line and a large press conference, Putin said that peace in Ukraine would come after Russia achieved the goals of the "special operation". "These goals do not change", we are talking about denazification, demilitarization of Ukraine and its neutral status, Putin emphasized. He recalled that in 2022, Ukraine insisted during peace talks with Russia that there was "no fascism" in the country. "Well, how could there not be? When the national hero there is not just a nationalist, but a Nazi. Bandera, he is elevated to the rank of a national hero," he said on this matter. And he recalled that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, during a visit to Canada, stood up and greeted the former soldier of the SS Galicia Division, 98-year-old Yaroslav Hunka, who, according to Putin, "directly participated in the extermination of 1. 5 million Jews, Russians and Poles in Ukraine. " "Therefore, the issue of denazification is relevant," the president concluded.

    After the start of the "special operation", the parties held several rounds of negotiations: the first three were held in Belarus in late February and early March, and the fourth on March 29,2022 in Istanbul. After that, the negotiation process was frozen. On May 14,2022, Putin said that the negotiation process was "effectively" suspended "by Kiev, which shows no interest in serious and constructive dialogue. " In September 2022, the President of Ukraine signed a decree that "states the impossibility of holding negotiations with the President of the Russian Federation V. Putin. ".

    Putin gave an interview to Carlson on February 6. It was published at about 2:00 Moscow time on February 9 on the journalist's website. In the morning, as promised by the Russian president's press secretary Dmitry Peskov, it appeared on the Kremlin website, including in Russian.
    Thanks for the explanation of denazification Questner. It makes a lot more sense than the Israeli Prime Minister's.

    In the course of the interview, the PM mentioned going to Germany, to visit Olaf Scholz. Bennett was conducting shuttle diplomacy. He said he made a vow to never visit Germany, because of the atrocities committed by the Nazis on Jews during World War II. But he made an exception for the cause of peace.

    From memory (I haven't gone back and listened to the audio again), Bennett said something like "the only way to deal with a Nazi of course is to kill him. " That would reflect his abhorrence and anger, at what the Nazis inflicted on Jews and others. Said another way, "The only good Nazi is a dead Nazi." I suspect he equated denazification with killing "Nazis" in the Ukrainian leadership based on his prejudices, not on what Putin told him.

    And before one of our fellow board members jumps down my throat, I'm not calling Zelensky a Nazi.

  13. #4262
    Quote Originally Posted by Questner  [View Original Post]
    At the interview below:

    "Denazification" of Ukraine should be understood as "prohibition of all neo-Nazi movements" and the need to "get rid of those people who leave this theory and practice in life and try to preserve it," Putin explained in an interview with Carlson. The President noted that this problem was discussed during the talks in Istanbul in the spring of 2022, an agreement was even reached to ban the cultivation of neo-Nazism in Ukraine, but Kyiv withdrew from the negotiation process.

    Vladimir Putin, in an interview with Tucker Carlson, at the request of the American journalist, explained the meaning of the word "denazification" - this, according to him, is "the prohibition of all neo-Nazi movements. " The transcript of their conversation was published on the Kremlin website. The president repeated the thesis that Russia has not yet achieved the goals of the "military special operation"* in Ukraine...
    I'm sorry but basically nothing you wrote is true.

    Putin never wanted a ceasefire.

    There's a reason why the war never ends from the Russian side.

    Putin never gave up his demands when it comes to his desire to dictate Ukrainian politics and the disarmament to Ukraine to the degree where they won't be able to defend their country.

    It's obvious that Ukraine need concrete security guarantees and any deal without it is a carte blanche for Putin to continue his war crimes in Ukraine.

  14. #4261
    Quote Originally Posted by Questner  [View Original Post]
    The Rada has voted to extend Martial Law for 90 days. This means no elections and continuation of mobilization.

    The Rada can at any time vote again to suspend Martial Law. Elections can't be held during ML as per the country's constitution as well as free debate and activity of opposition parties can't be sustained.

    Continuation of mobilization means no ceasefire as it's a condition by Russia to implement one.

    Presidential elections can be held as early as 60 days after the lift of ML, and elections to Rada as early as 90 days. This is the math for 2025.
    Ukrainians support Zelensky who has balls to resist to criminal Putin and senile stupid Trump. It would be easier for Putin, if no more Zelensky.

  15. #4260
    At the interview below:

    "Denazification" of Ukraine should be understood as "prohibition of all neo-Nazi movements" and the need to "get rid of those people who leave this theory and practice in life and try to preserve it," Putin explained in an interview with Carlson. The President noted that this problem was discussed during the talks in Istanbul in the spring of 2022, an agreement was even reached to ban the cultivation of neo-Nazism in Ukraine, but Kyiv withdrew from the negotiation process.

    Vladimir Putin, in an interview with Tucker Carlson, at the request of the American journalist, explained the meaning of the word "denazification" - this, according to him, is "the prohibition of all neo-Nazi movements. " The transcript of their conversation was published on the Kremlin website. The president repeated the thesis that Russia has not yet achieved the goals of the "military special operation"* in Ukraine.

    Putin also explained the reasons why, in his opinion, denazification was necessary. The head of state noted that after the start of World War II, part of the "nationalistically minded elite" began collaborating with Adolf Hitler because they thought that he would "bring them freedom. " And although the shoots of nationalism are now being "crushed" in many countries, this is not happening in Ukraine: there, according to Putin, people who "destroyed Poles, Jews and Russians" were made into national heroes. "We need to get rid of those people who leave this theory and practice in life and try to preserve it. That is what denazification is. That is what we mean by it," the head of state emphasized.

    Putin noted that denazification was one of the issues discussed during the negotiations in February-March 2022. According to him, during these negotiations an agreement was reached that "neo-Nazism will not be cultivated in Ukraine", it was to be prohibited at the legislative level. But as a result, Kyiv withdrew from the negotiation process, Ukraine "threw out all these agreements and accepted the instructions of Western countries under its salute", Putin concluded.

    At the end of 2023, during a direct line and a large press conference, Putin said that peace in Ukraine would come after Russia achieved the goals of the "special operation". "These goals do not change", we are talking about denazification, demilitarization of Ukraine and its neutral status, Putin emphasized. He recalled that in 2022, Ukraine insisted during peace talks with Russia that there was "no fascism" in the country. "Well, how could there not be? When the national hero there is not just a nationalist, but a Nazi. Bandera, he is elevated to the rank of a national hero," he said on this matter. And he recalled that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, during a visit to Canada, stood up and greeted the former soldier of the SS Galicia Division, 98-year-old Yaroslav Hunka, who, according to Putin, "directly participated in the extermination of 1. 5 million Jews, Russians and Poles in Ukraine. " "Therefore, the issue of denazification is relevant," the president concluded.

    After the start of the "special operation", the parties held several rounds of negotiations: the first three were held in Belarus in late February and early March, and the fourth on March 29,2022 in Istanbul. After that, the negotiation process was frozen. On May 14,2022, Putin said that the negotiation process was "effectively" suspended "by Kiev, which shows no interest in serious and constructive dialogue. " In September 2022, the President of Ukraine signed a decree that "states the impossibility of holding negotiations with the President of the Russian Federation V. Putin. ".

    Putin gave an interview to Carlson on February 6. It was published at about 2:00 Moscow time on February 9 on the journalist's website. In the morning, as promised by the Russian president's press secretary Dmitry Peskov, it appeared on the Kremlin website, including in Russian.

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