Stupid Shit in Kyiv

[Blood Red]

Bold Text: You don't see them lining up to go and fight. If you're sitting in an armchair in Des Moines, Iowa, and it's Russians and Ukrainians dying instead of Americans, it's easy to sermonize.

Exactly. Lindsey Graham openly said a long time ago that it is Ukrainians that are dying, not Americans, so it's OK. He felt no shame in saying it. Then recently he said there were a lot of minerals in Ukraine and hence America can't let Russia take all of that. I'm shocked that some people still don't see that America aka NATO does not give a shit about the Ukrainian people. Ukrainian lives are worthless to them.

[Questner]

Its very simple for myself, I'm a local with deep intimate understanding of the character of leadership, people, language, religion, business and war in my homeland, both in Ukraine and Russia.

For anyone who dares to put their hand into our cookie jar, the message is we will cut it off. Anyone who comes into our land with a sword dies of the sword.

https://youtu.be/RqvciPA5oa4?si=am9zfTZvVZZ29rxu

[Questner]

The word journalist is getting abused here.

This is the guy who was amazed by the futuristic shopping cart technology in a Moscow mall (You can lock them with tokens or coins! They don't slide back on a moving walkway!) and swallowed Putins lie that it was the fault of Poland that poor mass murderers Hitler and Stalin invaded Poland in September 1939.

If you believe that guy is a journalist you probably have at home a testicle tanning device.

We have a proverb about a thief donning a fiery hat, meaning it's actually you have got the device under your bed.

The other expression is about 'unfinished fascist'. I actually even know the menu on the table of 1939 agreement and talked to first hand witnesses. How about yourself?

You are also clueless about what Tucker represents. Maybe you are scared we don't see Switzerland as neutral anymore? Jealous Tucker makes more than you? Can you present your journalist credentials?

Can you even post anything reasonably critical about Tucker's questions? I can.

[Tiny 12]

Now they want to lower the conscription age to 18 years. I bet many here will support that. Those kids will go to the frontline and die for nothing.

Until the last Ukrainian, right?

Horrific.

Bold Text: You don't see them lining up to go and fight. If you're sitting in an armchair in Des Moines, Iowa, and it's Russians and Ukrainians dying instead of Americans, it's easy to sermonize.

[Tiny 12]

...I do rejoice in anything that weakens an imperialistic, hegemonistic, fascist dictatorship -- Russia....

From an article about Abu Mohammed al-Jolani, who leads Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS), which took over Aleppo and Damascus:

"Jolani capitalised on the recent outreach he'd conducted with tribes, former opponents and minority groups, brokering surrenders and ordering the protection of minorities. He even directed a statement to Russia, which has helped Assad for years, suggesting HTS and Moscow could find common ground in rebuilding Syria.".

https://www.ft.com/content/574cc17a-...0-34fc032c7fe4

The USA is offering a $10 million bounty for Jolani's (aka Jawlani's) head, figuratively speaking. This describes the reward and some of his misdeeds:

https://rewardsforjustice.net/reward...ad-al-jawlani/

2. No one banned or is banning the Russian language even now during the war. There are soldiers WITHIN AFU who don't speak Ukrainian, and no one gives a fuck. All fairytales about suppression of Russian language in Ukraine is Russian propaganda. There is no truth in it.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/01/19/...ncerns-ukraine

These articles from Amnesty International and the Ukrainian National News Agency aren't directly related to your comment but may be of interest.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/ne...nvestigations/
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/pr...n-the-country/
https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-soc...agitators.html

[John Clayton]

Yeah LOL. Remember how the American attempt to export democracy to Iraq turned out?

I hope for democracy in Russia as well.

[Blood Red]

It's aspirational.

Yeah LOL. Remember how the American attempt to export democracy to Iraq turned out?

[Blood Red]

You've been wrong about this for a long time. Many have died. A majority of Ukrainians want negotiations soon to end the war. They dont want to continue as cannon fodder in the cause of western Neoconservatives.

Now they want to lower the conscription age to 18 years. I bet many here will support that. Those kids will go to the frontline and die for nothing.

Until the last Ukrainian, right?

Horrific.

[Tiny 12]

If only those who have spent a lot of time in Russia or Ukraine are qualified to speak on this matter, then it's a big tell that you aren't listening to the slew of Ukrainians that are saying the same things as Xpartan. No your "preferred media sources" are unattributed copy and pastes and paraphrases from Russian state media, while spending half your day cuddling your nose in Questner and Blood Red's buttholes. And, at your suggestion, in a forum that hardly anyone reads. What a life, huh? Wink.

You've been wrong about this for a long time. Many have died. A majority of Ukrainians want negotiations soon to end the war. They don’t want to continue as cannon fodder in the cause of western Neoconservatives.

[Xpartan]

I'd guess there are only two participants in this thread who've actually lived or spent a lot of time in the FSU, Blood Red and Questner. The rest of us may have spent a few weeks here and there in Russia or Ukraine and read from our favorite media sources, but we really don't understand the situation like they do. We're like the French guy who's currently posting in the American Politics thread.

1. You are obviously a Russophile. Which explains why you're looking for all possible and impossible excuses for Russia's monstrosity.

2. That pair that you revere so much are liars. I don't give a flying duck that they lived and traveled in Russia. Would you have to be a resident or frequent traveler to Germany, China or Cambodia to figure out that Hitler, Mao and Pol Pot did some monumentally shitty things?

3. How hard is it to understand the nature of Russia's aggression? How hard is it to see the unspeakable atrocities committed against civilians by their so-called armed forces? How hard is it to see the extreme level of oppression against their own population? Really, Tiny, you have to be willfully blind.

In addition to living in Russia and having the partner who's from eastern Ukraine, he lived through and fought in the struggle that may be the closest thing to the Russia / Ukraine war in the English speaking world during our lifetimes. He's not, as you say, a "useful idiot. " Neither are you. And Questner and Blood Red are not "propacondoms. " Rather, we're posters in a thread on a hooker board that's read by a handful of people.

1. What is that "struggle that may be the closest thing to the Russia / Ukraine war in the English speaking world"? Unless you're talking about Northern Ireland (not even NEARLY the closest thing) I can't think of anything.

2. No one banned or is banning the Russian language even now during the war. There are soldiers WITHIN AFU who don't speak Ukrainian, and no one gives a fuck. All fairytales about suppression of Russian language in Ukraine is Russian propaganda. There is no truth in it.

3. I have 90% confidence that RedBlood is a paid Russian propacondom (and not very good one at that). Questner is (most likely) not a paid propacondom. Just a fanatic who believes in the future of the Russian empire. Russian nationals like him who're in love with Putin yet prefer living in the West they hate so much, are dime a dozen. From what I understand, RedBlood lives outside Russia too. Funny how they go out of their way to stay away from the motherland they love so much.

[John Clayton]

You don't know shit about Syria. It will never be a democracy.

It's aspirational.

[Blood Red]

You don't know shit about Syria. It will never be a democracy.

He probably also thinks that Ukraine will get Crimea and the 4 new Russian regions back through diplomacy. He probably also believes in Zelensky's 'Victory Plan'.

[Paulie97]

I'd guess there are only two participants in this thread who've actually lived or spent a lot of time in the FSU, Blood Red and Questner. The rest of us may have spent a few weeks here and there in Russia or Ukraine and read from our favorite media sources, but we really don't understand the situation like they do. We're like the French guy who's currently posting in the American Politics thread.

If only those who have spent a lot of time in Russia or Ukraine are qualified to speak on this matter, then it's a big tell that you aren't listening to the slew of Ukrainians that are saying the same things as Xpartan. No your "preferred media sources" are unattributed copy and pastes and paraphrases from Russian state media, while spending half your day cuddling your nose in Questner and Blood Red's buttholes. And, at your suggestion, in a forum that hardly anyone reads. What a life, huh? Wink.

[Riina]

I am in favor of a pluralistic, democratic Syria

You don't know shit about Syria. It will never be a democracy.

[John Clayton]

This is why people like you are disgusting and hypocritical. When it suits you, you call them rebels, when in reality they are designated TERRORISTS by all the west. Admit it, you are rooting for them because you think it will weaken Russia.

The rebel group is comprised of many factions: reconstituted Al Qaeda, Druze, Christians, Kurds and random groups that just want to get rid of al Assad. I believe most of the coordination and intelligence for the rebellion comes from Turkey. I am in favor of a pluralistic, democratic Syria and I agree with you that Al Qaeda, regardless of what they call themselves now, are terrorists. I am also against the suffering of the Syrian people; however, I believe a brutal, totalitarian, revanchist Russia is a far greater threat to peace and should be resisted by the forces of Democracy. I don't want to see one dictatorship exchanged for another in Syria, but I do rejoice in anything that weakens an imperialistic, hegemonistic, fascist dictatorship -- Russia. To a lesser extent I feel the same way about Iran, which is a religious dictatorship that recklessly and needlessly interferes in the affairs of neighboring states. I say 'to a lesser extent' because they are not currently engaged in the invasion of another sovereign state and the murder of tens of thousands of its citizens.