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  1. #1301

    Soledar on the Brink of Liberation

    As Russia's forces pound Soledar, more than 2,000 Banderites have been killed, with many more surrendering. The 15th Battalion of 58th AFU Motorized Infantry Brigade has been eliminated. Iranian Shahed 129 drones are seeing action and have already wiped out batteries of M777 Howitzers. The head of the Hitlerite forces is asking Zelensky for permission to withdraw as discipline is further dissipating. What he should be doing is fragging Zelensky and his wife. This is a turkey shoot. Zelensky should be arrested before he flees to one of his overseas mansions.

  2. #1300
    Quote Originally Posted by Chicago85  [View Original Post]
    Few Thoughts:

    Ukraine. I agree that the US is not giving Ukraine what it needs to outright 'win,' and this is by design so as not to antagonize Russia (given nukes) and to bleed them dry. What the US, and others to a more limited degree, are doing though is continuing to transition Ukraine to advanced Western weapons and more of them. They started out with 4 HIMARS which royally f-ed up Russia and they're now up to 12 or so plus equivalents from other counties. The USA Has 500+ of those systems, not to mention ones capable of much longer ranges and accuracy. Additionally the US has only been sharing late 90's technology. If they wanted to they could roll out the latest suff.

    China. The key here is the US Public's willingness to enter into a war with China. Should we want to we could lay the hammer down. Financially, over 20% of China exports are to the USA Vs 8% the other way. Include Europe / Japan and it'd hit 50% plus.... we could isolate China trade wise. They also hold over $1 T of our debt. From a military standpoint, yes they do have a larger armed forced, but it is nearly all conscripted and non-professional (ie poorly trained). The US has nearly 1 M professional soldiers who are incredibly well trained and the logistics are a well oiled machine. Last of all, you mention a blockade of Taiwan. The US and allies could do the same in the South China Sea for China. China imports 80%+ of their oil (at least until Russia pipeline is expanded). That's a big choke point right there.

    Just my armchair quarterback ramblings!
    Right now Ukrain have 16 Himars as a Minimum.

    Then they have the 270 MLRS, 6 as I remember.

    I don't think the US have +500 of such Lunchpads but dosnt matter, Ukrain just need little bit more and some longer ranged missiles for it.

    Russia is running dry of everything.

    Just look Youtubers who still broadcasts and they saying the Malls are half empty compared to normal, the lines of goods much less then normal etc etc.

    In a standoff vs. China I don't see China have any chance defeating the combined west, without going full nuclear, and then noone or everyone win (depending on how you see it).

  3. #1299
    Quote Originally Posted by Kozerog  [View Original Post]
    It never ceases to amaze me when people think exports matter. If no buyer, throw it in the ocean. Imports are what matter, exports are what you use to pay for essential imports. China imports oil, food, raw materials, which is precisely why I have that long 5-20 year time frame. Pipelines will be built eventually, and sanctions pretty much guarantee Russia will feed those pipelines. Both China and Russia now see that owning USA debt is a mistake, so they will gradually convert that debt to stockpiles of raw materials so they no longer need to import much. Both China and Russia will build a semiconductor industry so they no longer depend on USA and allies for that. This Ukraine war has revealed weaknesses, and both China and Russia will now try to fix those weaknesses before the move on Taiwan. (Of course, China could be stupid and attack now, just like Russia was stupid to attack too soon.).

    If Russia is a sinking ship, that just gives China more leverage to force Russia to sell China what it needs. Too much Russian weakness is not good news for USA. What USA needs is a medium strengtg Russia that fears China more than the USA but is strong enough to break with China and defend Siberia. Ukraine might benefit from extreme Russian weakness, but expecting Russia to fall apart soon is wishful thinking. Plus those nukes will still be there, possibly in the hands of someone much worse than current Russian leadership.
    China Already have Semiconductor plants, but the issue is that the Patents are hold by western companies.

    This is the same issue Russia Have, dosnt matter if they could manage to Build a plant, but it need to have high tech stuff which they not have access to, but the still needed a design for a Semiconductor of high level and not just some old shit from the 80 or 90.

    Russia don't have the scientist to developed these things right now.

    China is stockpiling Natural gas and Oil.

    What will happend when they stop to do this?

    The Oil / Gas Market will fall and then russia have a big problem.

  4. #1298
    It never ceases to amaze me when people think exports matter. If no buyer, throw it in the ocean. Imports are what matter, exports are what you use to pay for essential imports. China imports oil, food, raw materials, which is precisely why I have that long 5-20 year time frame. Pipelines will be built eventually, and sanctions pretty much guarantee Russia will feed those pipelines. Both China and Russia now see that owning USA debt is a mistake, so they will gradually convert that debt to stockpiles of raw materials so they no longer need to import much. Both China and Russia will build a semiconductor industry so they no longer depend on USA and allies for that. This Ukraine war has revealed weaknesses, and both China and Russia will now try to fix those weaknesses before the move on Taiwan. (Of course, China could be stupid and attack now, just like Russia was stupid to attack too soon.).

    If Russia is a sinking ship, that just gives China more leverage to force Russia to sell China what it needs. Too much Russian weakness is not good news for USA. What USA needs is a medium strengtg Russia that fears China more than the USA but is strong enough to break with China and defend Siberia. Ukraine might benefit from extreme Russian weakness, but expecting Russia to fall apart soon is wishful thinking. Plus those nukes will still be there, possibly in the hands of someone much worse than current Russian leadership.

  5. #1297
    Quote Originally Posted by Hestendk  [View Original Post]
    I can agree with what your writting, could be a potentially endgame, but I not think this is going to happend.

    China as I See it is tired of Russia Fucking up everywhere they go, China have major problems themself on the Real Estate market, if that collapse they will have big Internal problems, which cannot be hidden with a War against Taiwan.

    I think Russia Will break and have a Leadeship changes before 12 months, A leadership that can be made a peace with, remember Russians leaders don't have a problem throwing the old Leaders under the Bus if needed.

    China Until now have not exported much to Russia This Year, yes they are buying energy ressurces but at a very high discount.

    Russia is a sinking ship, they just don't admit it yet. Have you see the new troops they sending, and their loadout.

    If this continues Ukraine will be able to defeat them with bow and arrows on the battle field.
    Few Thoughts:

    Ukraine. I agree that the US is not giving Ukraine what it needs to outright 'win,' and this is by design so as not to antagonize Russia (given nukes) and to bleed them dry. What the US, and others to a more limited degree, are doing though is continuing to transition Ukraine to advanced Western weapons and more of them. They started out with 4 HIMARS which royally f-ed up Russia and they're now up to 12 or so plus equivalents from other counties. The USA Has 500+ of those systems, not to mention ones capable of much longer ranges and accuracy. Additionally the US has only been sharing late 90's technology. If they wanted to they could roll out the latest suff.

    China. The key here is the US Public's willingness to enter into a war with China. Should we want to we could lay the hammer down. Financially, over 20% of China exports are to the USA Vs 8% the other way. Include Europe / Japan and it'd hit 50% plus.... we could isolate China trade wise. They also hold over $1 T of our debt. From a military standpoint, yes they do have a larger armed forced, but it is nearly all conscripted and non-professional (ie poorly trained). The US has nearly 1 M professional soldiers who are incredibly well trained and the logistics are a well oiled machine. Last of all, you mention a blockade of Taiwan. The US and allies could do the same in the South China Sea for China. China imports 80%+ of their oil (at least until Russia pipeline is expanded). That's a big choke point right there.

    Just my armchair quarterback ramblings!

  6. #1296
    Quote Originally Posted by Kozerog  [View Original Post]
    Ukrainian military is fighting brilliantly. But that's tactics. You need think strategically, big picture.

    If Russia is humiliated in this war, they will retaliate by fully backing China in the eventual war over Taiwan. Technology has changed so that cutting sea lanes is much easier than in WW2, when Germany tried but failed to use submarines to cut sea lanes. In particular, drone subs and smart torpedoes / mines will soon make it easy for combined Russia / China to impose a sea blockade on Taiwan, Korea and Japan. Since all of those countries depend heavily on sea transport, they will soon concede. Concession means Taiwan accepts Chinese sovereignty, Korea and Japan become neutrals and expel USA military bases. This will be a colossal loss of prestige for the USA.

    Next step is Russia agrees to back off their alliance with China is exchange for non-interference in Ukraine (and Kazakhstan, see etc). In order to avoid further defeats from China-Russia-Iran alliance, USA accepts this Russian offer and throws Ukraine under the bus. So all this current vfighting and loss of life and destruction of property will have been for nought because Ukraine is going to be a Russian dependency again eventually.

    Precisely because Russia is so weak, Europeans won't object when USA decides to ally with Russia in exchange for Russia breaking with China. So in the long run, no one is coming to Ukraine's defense. By long run, I'm talking 5-20 years. Long time span to resolve situation is not good news for Ukraine, because it just means more death and destruction with the same final result. Even if Russia gets pushed all the way back to the 2014 border (no Crimea, no Donbas), Russia can just wait until USA occupied with China and strike again, next time usibg Chinese drone technology, which is getting better very fast.

    I don't know what USA strategy is, and probably USA itself doesn't know. As with idiotic USA strategy in Afghanistan, military leaders just say whatever the politicians want to hear so they can get steady promotions, and the politicians follow the herd, which is increasingly scatter-brained, in case you haven't noticed. If USA actually wanted a quick victory in Ukraine, why not send huge numbers of HiMARs artillery and rockets long ago, manned by USA citizen CIA soldiers without uniforms? Fuck the rules of war: you want to win, you break rules. Answer: because USA doesn't really want to win, they just want to bleed Russia for some reason. USA Secretary of Defense actually said just that. Why bleed Russia if Russia so weak they can't possibly threaten Western Europe? It makes no sense. Though maybe explained by my comment that scatter-brained USA electorate is ultimately in charge of USA policy, at least until China moves, at which point steadier hands will seize control of the ship and the scatter-brained herd will be told to take orders instead of giving them.

    Finally, remember that Ukraine has no nukes and never will have them, but Russia does have them, which is another reason USA doesn't really want Ukraine to win.
    I can agree with what your writting, could be a potentially endgame, but I not think this is going to happend.

    China as I See it is tired of Russia Fucking up everywhere they go, China have major problems themself on the Real Estate market, if that collapse they will have big Internal problems, which cannot be hidden with a War against Taiwan.

    I think Russia Will break and have a Leadeship changes before 12 months, A leadership that can be made a peace with, remember Russians leaders don't have a problem throwing the old Leaders under the Bus if needed.

    China Until now have not exported much to Russia This Year, yes they are buying energy ressurces but at a very high discount.

    Russia is a sinking ship, they just don't admit it yet.

    Have you see the new troops they sending, and their loadout.

    If this continues Ukrain will be able to defeat them with bow and arrows on the battle field.

  7. #1295
    Quote Originally Posted by Hestendk  [View Original Post]

    To say Ukrain is in a No Win situation Could you please explain why you think this?

    Because the Repports I'm getting from the front says different.

    And last month Russia managed to take 0. 02% land compared to the month before, and this month they lost more then gained.
    Ukrainian military is fighting brilliantly. But that's tactics. You need think strategically, big picture.

    If Russia is humiliated in this war, they will retaliate by fully backing China in the eventual war over Taiwan. Technology has changed so that cutting sea lanes is much easier than in WW2, when Germany tried but failed to use submarines to cut sea lanes. In particular, drone subs and smart torpedoes / mines will soon make it easy for combined Russia / China to impose a sea blockade on Taiwan, Korea and Japan. Since all of those countries depend heavily on sea transport, they will soon concede. Concession means Taiwan accepts Chinese sovereignty, Korea and Japan become neutrals and expel USA military bases. This will be a colossal loss of prestige for the USA.

    Next step is Russia agrees to back off their alliance with China is exchange for non-interference in Ukraine (and Kazakhstan, see etc). In order to avoid further defeats from China-Russia-Iran alliance, USA accepts this Russian offer and throws Ukraine under the bus. So all this current vfighting and loss of life and destruction of property will have been for nought because Ukraine is going to be a Russian dependency again eventually.

    Precisely because Russia is so weak, Europeans won't object when USA decides to ally with Russia in exchange for Russia breaking with China. So in the long run, no one is coming to Ukraine's defense. By long run, I'm talking 5-20 years. Long time span to resolve situation is not good news for Ukraine, because it just means more death and destruction with the same final result. Even if Russia gets pushed all the way back to the 2014 border (no Crimea, no Donbas), Russia can just wait until USA occupied with China and strike again, next time usibg Chinese drone technology, which is getting better very fast.

    I don't know what USA strategy is, and probably USA itself doesn't know. As with idiotic USA strategy in Afghanistan, military leaders just say whatever the politicians want to hear so they can get steady promotions, and the politicians follow the herd, which is increasingly scatter-brained, in case you haven't noticed. If USA actually wanted a quick victory in Ukraine, why not send huge numbers of HiMARs artillery and rockets long ago, manned by USA citizen CIA soldiers without uniforms? Fuck the rules of war: you want to win, you break rules. Answer: because USA doesn't really want to win, they just want to bleed Russia for some reason. USA Secretary of Defense actually said just that. Why bleed Russia if Russia so weak they can't possibly threaten Western Europe? It makes no sense. Though maybe explained by my comment that scatter-brained USA electorate is ultimately in charge of USA policy, at least until China moves, at which point steadier hands will seize control of the ship and the scatter-brained herd will be told to take orders instead of giving them.

    Finally, remember that Ukraine has no nukes and never will have them, but Russia does have them, which is another reason USA doesn't really want Ukraine to win.

  8. #1294

    Spot on!

    Quote Originally Posted by Hestendk  [View Original Post]
    What is your skillset? Head Down Asss up?
    Man did you get that one right!
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  9. #1293
    Quote Originally Posted by PedroMorales  [View Original Post]
    Putin and Russia have nothing to do with this, except stopping your genocide.

    Russia and its allies are winning, so you parasites can live in the rump state Russia, Roman ia, Poland and Hungary leave you with. You swarmed into Western Europe as economic migrants. Best stick to what you are good at: picking asparagus in Germany, strawberries in Finland and pimping out your sisters and mothers in Ukraine as hookers and surrogates. No one wants Nazis, except in a zoo.
    Only ones doing Genocide is the Russians, plenty of proff of that.

    Yes yes Russia is winning, that's why the Graveyards in Russia a full of 200, and hospitals of 300.

    How Can I swarm into western Euripe as E-conomic Migrant? When I'm Born and raised in one of the most rich Western Europe Countries?

    You got me right on One thing, I'm infact very good at picking Asparagues.

    What is your skillset?

    Head Down Asss up?

  10. #1292

    Lol

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnClayton  [View Original Post]
    "Pedro Morales" is a troll, who lives in St. Petersburg and is paid by Unit 54777 of the GRU.
    Hopefully they aren't paying him more than the Russian minimum wage as his work is quite shrill, disoriented, just shoddy. Wink.

  11. #1291

    Get out of the West

    Quote Originally Posted by Hestendk  [View Original Post]
    The mess started When Putin came to power.

    Is clear that your Anti Western, sp maybe you should just go live in Chine / Russia.
    Putin and Russia have nothing to do with this, except stopping your genocide.

    Russia and its allies are winning, so you parasites can live in the rump state Russia, Roman ia, Poland and Hungary leave you with. You swarmed into Western Europe as economic migrants. Best stick to what you are good at: picking asparagus in Germany, strawberries in Finland and pimping out your sisters and mothers in Ukraine as hookers and surrogates. No one wants Nazis, except in a zoo.

  12. #1290

    Banned by Cock Man, Shit Kicker

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnClayton  [View Original Post]
    "Pedro Morales" is a troll, who lives in St. Petersburg and is paid by Unit 54777 of the GRU.
    Here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catego...ies_in_Ukraine are some of the political parties Cock Man Zelensky has banned. I forgot to post the link. He is taking the West for a mega Bn $ ride.

    After your latest personalised attack on me, I flicked back through your posts to confirm what an American idiot you are. You mention a certain place. I have been there, packing. As were my friends. We were on a charity mission to rescue a fool, someone like you. There are places, you fool, you are better to go to your God like a soldier. If you are ever blessed to meet me, you will see I am Gandhi and Mother Theresa in one. Not so those friends who would slit anyone's throat in a blink (Never trust a Spic with a knife, The Naked and the Dead? Those guys who would easily handle a butterfly like me and squash a slug like you, were genuinely scared in some places and for good reason. Some places you just don't go, no matter how many Rambo cock suckers you have; not my words but theirs. I even had to get armed guards to go in and fuck the hired help (not much of a fuck but I digress) . What is the expression about your sort, fools go where angels fear to thread. The Mexican Apache thought Geronimo and his pals were putos and the Comanche were a rougher crowd; they had a point. There are much tougher around. Not a threat to you as you are just another fat Yank, who can't even eat a hamburger correctly. The point is, stick to your hamburgers and hand jobs. If you want excitement, go watch animals in a zoo. There are far more dangerous outv there in the wild, and they don't eat hamburgers, drink Coke and sniff little chicas' panties.

    As regards Ukraine, Zelensky's days are numbered. Do you like that he used to expose his cock for a living. You get off on shit like that? These are rhetorical questions as you are American, a blubber whale without the nutrition.

    God bless. Pray the Rosary.

  13. #1289
    Quote Originally Posted by PedroMorales  [View Original Post]
    Viktor Medvedchuk is a prisoner of CockMan Zelensky.

    Here is a a link to parties Cock Man has banned. Stick to rimming hairy Ukrainian asses.

    This "Mess" began when you Nazis started your Maidan crimes. Hopefully, you will all meet the same end Bandera met.
    "Pedro Morales" is a troll, who lives in St. Petersburg and is paid by Unit 54777 of the GRU.

  14. #1288
    Quote Originally Posted by PedroMorales  [View Original Post]
    Viktor Medvedchuk is a prisoner of CockMan Zelensky.

    Here is a a link to parties Cock Man has banned. Stick to rimming hairy Ukrainian asses.

    This "Mess" began when you Nazis started your Maidan crimes. Hopefully, you will all meet the same end Bandera met.
    The mess started When Putin came to power.

    Have you ever been to Ukraine?

    I not meet any Nazi here, but I meet plenty in russia.

    Viktor was first Jailed but in his house, for a major involment in coruption and also helping the occupied areas to sell coal diverteed back to Ukrain.

    Then 2-3 days before the 24 February he escaped from the House (his own big manson).

    Noone knew where he was, but some months after he was arrested trying to get to cross the border and in an Ukrain Uniform.

    So yes Ukrain jailed him, but there are valid reasons behind it, and Viktor had a big play in the 24 February playbook.

    So maybe you should try and read up on the things and not just make your own story.

    Is clear that your Anti Western, sp maybe you should just go live in Chine / Russia.

  15. #1287

    Cock Man's Prisoners

    Quote Originally Posted by Hestendk  [View Original Post]
    So who did zelinsky lock up after the war broke out?

    To say he banned most oppositions parties is an lie if you don't know that then please read up on it.

    The only person who started this Mess is Putin.
    Viktor Medvedchuk is a prisoner of CockMan Zelensky.

    Here is a a link to parties Cock Man has banned. Stick to rimming hairy Ukrainian asses.

    This "Mess" began when you Nazis started your Maidan crimes. Hopefully, you will all meet the same end Bandera met.

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