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  1. #947

    Soviet Invasions of Hungary and Czechkoslovakia.

    The civilian casualties in Hungary. "Soviets put a brutal end to Hungarian revolution".

    An estimated 2,500 Hungarians died and 200,000 more fled as refugees. https://www.history.com/this-day-in-...ian-revolution.

    The number of Civilians killed in Czechkoslovakia. "Death Toll of 1968 Invasion Published For First Time".

    "The 1968 Soviet-led invasion of Czechoslovakia killed at least 72 people and seriously injured 266, a newspaper reported Wednesday in the first official disclosure of the casualty toll"https://apnews.com/article/b4a9687db...1833f87a88797d.

    Initially, some civilians tried to argue with the invading troops, but this met with little or no success. After the USSR used photographs of these discussions as proof that the invasion troops were being greeted amicably, secret Czechoslovak broadcasting stations discouraged the practice, reminding the people that "pictures are silent". The protests in reaction to the invasion lasted only about seven days. Explanations for the fizzling of these public outbursts mostly centre on demoralisation of the population, whether from the intimidation of all the enemy troops and tanks or from being abandoned by their leaders. Many Czechoslovaks saw the signing of the Moscow Protocol as treasonous. Another common explanation is that, due to the fact that most of Czech society was middle class, the cost of continued resistance meant giving up a comfortable lifestyle, which was too high a price to pay".

    Decades later at present, Putin's ally is in Hungary and the Czech Republic is number 18 in the league of Happy Nations. Czech Republic Rises To 18th In World Happiness Rankings https://brnodaily.com/2021/03/24/new...ness-rankings/.

    Went on a backpacking vacations in my misspent youth to both countries just before The Wall came down and I never met anyone there or in Poland who liked Russia or the Russians.

  2. #946
    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie97  [View Original Post]
    This is disingenuous as you've offered praise for Tucker Carlson who sucks Vlad's 3 inch cock on a nightly basis.
    You will have to show me said clips. TC has always made certain that his opposition for Democratic positions like throwing $40 billion away does not equal support for Putin. TC asks why should we care about the borders in Ukraine when we have porous ones at home.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie97  [View Original Post]
    Disorder across Europe effects us at home, Duh. Even cock swallowers like Josh Hawley know this, but pitch the isolationist nonsense to dumbfucks like you for his political advantage.
    Sorry, dummy, I am done with your stupidity and am profiting for it. The latest dumb Dem method to solve problems is to destroy the economy and have the government spend money to solve things. Hell, let's lay off unessential workers and then print money to compensate them. Let's ban Russian oil and gas and then print up coupons or stop the gasoline tax to cover the subsequent inflation. Yeah, let's not ban Russian oil and produce more of our own because doing so would give more money to American oil companies which typically support Republicans.

    Of course, dummies like you do no see that the cost for this free money is inflation, higher interest rates, and a stock market plunge. I just shake my head at the current Democrat model of "let's destroy the economy to show that we care. ".

    So I profited from this. While your buddy and "genius" Eih was long the market and has gotten crushed to the tune of being down 20 to 25% since April, I have been buying triple short ETFs and am up 60%. I am kicking myself though at not going long the ruble after Biden tried to destroy it. I would have been up 100% had I done that.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/13/c...d-revenue.html#text=Russia%20 earned%20 what%20 is%20 very, organization%20 based%20 in%20 Helsinki%2 see%20 Finland.

    "Russia earned what is very likely a record 93 billion euros in revenue from exports of oil, gas and coal in the first 100 days of the country's invasion of Ukraine, according to data analyzed by the Center for Research on Energy and Clean Air, a research organization based in Helsinki, Finland. ".

    And if you are a Democrat, you call the above news success.

    So do not worry about my financial condition. I am doing great seeing how your leader of choice runs our economy into the ground while boosting Russia's. But at least like you, he cares.

  3. #945

    Whitewashing Ukraine's History.

    2 Interesting books look back at Ukraine's Past.

    https://us.macmillan.com/books/97812...ivilizedeurope

    "Between 1918 and 1921, over a hundred thousand Jews were murdered in Ukraine by peasants, townsmen, and soldiers who blamed the Jews for the turmoil of the Russian Revolution. In hundreds of separate incidents, ordinary people robbed their Jewish neighbors with impunity, burned down their houses, ripped apart their Torah scrolls, sexually assaulted them, and killed them. Largely forgotten today, these pogroms—ethnic riots—dominated headlines and international affairs in their time. Aid workers warned that six million Jews were in danger of complete extermination. Twenty years later, these dire predictions would come true.

    Drawing upon long-neglected archival materials, including thousands of newly discovered witness testimonies, trial records, and official orders, acclaimed historian Jeffrey Veidlinger shows for the first time how this wave of genocidal violence created the conditions for the Holocaust".

    The other Historian https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/05/02...yr-viatrovych/.

    The Historian Whitewashing Ukraine's Past.

    Volodymyr Viatrovych is erasing the country's racist and bloody history — stripping pogroms and ethnic cleansing from the official archives.

    There you have it, both sides of the History of Ukraine.

    In the meantime in Israel "This week, the veteran right-wing journalist Andrew Neil tweeted "Israel fails to stand up for Ukraine. Reluctant to impose sanctions Stayed silent after Russian airstrike near Babi Yar memorial, where German Nazis killed tens of thousands of Jews in WW2". https://inews.co.uk/opinion/israel-f...ot-be-ignored-.

  4. #944

    Banderastan

    Quote Originally Posted by Golfinho  [View Original Post]
    The Ukrunazis are conducting scorched earth tactics destroying all the infrastructure they can along with murdering all the civilians they can while razing their homes and running back to their Banderastan capital. They apparently understand how unwelcome they've been in the territories grafted unto their State by the Soviets.

    They've learned quite a few lessons from Hitler, with the final ones on the way.
    I find Chinese media very good. Accented but they understand. I am surprised Chinese advisors are not at the front with Russia, learning the ropes. Russia's main job is to destroy America's satraps and push on to strange Canada and other dictatorships (remember the truckers). There is no point arguing with the Nazis here, some of whom were probably gang rapists in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    We can only hope that Russia will up the ante and bring this whole American house of cards tumbling down.

  5. #943

    Flowers

    Quote Originally Posted by ReinerOtto  [View Original Post]
    But Putler has learned a few lessons from Adolf Hitler. And Stalin. Hitler annexed "Sudetenland" with same argumentation as Putler uses today.

    Only difference: Hitlers army was really welcome with (some) flowers.

    Stalin annexed part of Finland having "Security Concerns", because border to Finland was too close to Leningrad (St. Petersburg).

    Western countries believed, that Hitlers aggression would be finished, after grabbing "Sudetenland".

    They were wrong.

    Not to make same mistake with Putler again. For whom the Baltics or Moldova might be next countries of interest.
    Good post, there's just no "security concerns. " The only concern is swallowing up Ukraine. They want the farmlands and the ports, and couldn't care less about borders with their refusal to complain about Finnish borders. The only problem here is the American far right, with their insistent on deep throating Putin's puny cock, and swallowing the cum of course. Yo.

  6. #942

    ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    Sorry, Hunter's laptop was real.
    So is mine is an Acer Spin, love it, Where are the charges again Hunter or Hillary? Where's the lock her up?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    2000 mules is a theory based on circumstantial evidence.
    No evidence at all, you lost the election and try to do better next time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    So here we go again. You dumb Dems unload on Putin like you did on Trump.
    It's easy to unload on someone when he sucks the puny cock of our enemy, and with a facial finish each time. That's Trump. That's when he lies about a pandemic suggesting that we drink bleach and shine UV light up our oracfices. Then unleashes a mob of hillbillies on the Capital to kill cops and the VP, that's just for starters.

    P.S. As to Obamas birth certificate, as to you admitting to that farce, what makes you think the other conspiracy theories you are chasing are true? LOL.

  7. #941
    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie97  [View Original Post]
    So in essence, out of your love for arguing, you come to the Ukraine free for all thread sympathizing with our enemies with the usual spurious arguments.
    LOL. I do not take my marching orders from the NY Times and Washington Post like you do. I like to think for myself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie97  [View Original Post]
    As to your gasoline costs, you deserve to pay double driving an old over sized pickup truck when an economy car will do, no sympathy here. Democracy is and that of our allies is more important than the inconveniences of a selfish twit.
    I am glad you are worried about my gas prices. In case you have not noticed the ruble and Russian economy are stronger and why not? They have been getting richer than ever thanks to Biden's bone headed energy policy. I am glad you are concerned about the truck I do not own but I think giving Putin billions more is the issue.

    What brought oil prices down before was American drilling. The number of operational rigs peaked at 1900+ under Obama in 2014: https://www.aogr.com/web-exclusives/us-rig-count/2014.

    Now even with the price higher than ever, there are only 740 rigs going. https://www.aogr.com/web-exclusives/us-rig-count/2022.

    As to why, Biden explains: https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/che...g-letter-biden.

    First, he pokes fun at "hurt feelings" of the CEO of Chevron. That was pointless and completely fucking stupid. Then Biden says, "we ought to be able to work something out whereby they can increase refining capacity and still not give up on transitioning to renewable energy. " he then says we have plenty of oil fields working now. LOL. You cannot make this shit up.

    Of course, this is on Zero Hedge so Biden's own words do not care if you are a Dem. If the same linked video was in the NYT, then and only then it is valid.

    So let us get things straight, Paulie, you and your buddy Biden are putting the climate change agenda ahead of all American motorists, many world industries, and the Ukrainian citizens you are crying about whose lives are being taken. Where do you think Putin gets the money for his bombs dummy? Hell, if we were drilling like crazy, that would do more to hurt Putin than anything else. But you dumb Dems are not into actions. Nah, all you do is mouth off about how much you care.

    And as far as the earth in Ukraine that getting shelled on a daily basis in part with weapons bought and paid for by us? It is nothing. Mother Earth can handle one country shelled into oblivion. None of those rocket launchers and explosives have anything to do with CO2 emissions right?

    Just like you were pro-lockdown back in March 2020, when we actually had fewer Covid cases than we do now, and you have forgotten about Covid, you will forget about Ukraine after the mid terms. Covid was wiped from the front page after you dumb Dems decided you had a new way to attack Republicans. Republicans stupidly were not getting vaxxed and are now in love with Putin. You will not give a shit about Ukraine after the mid terms and you get your asses handed to you. And predictably, you dumb Dems will find something new to be outraged about and demonize Republicans all over again. Your concerns about Ukraine and its people will be long gone, and that per the article I linked is exactly what Putin is counting on.

    We Dems care about Covid, we Dems care more about the Ukrainian people, and you will say you care more about whatever comes next. That is being a Democrat. It is not doing anything to fix anything. It is just pretending to care more.

    Your insulting me over gas prices instead of Putin's billions of dollars more from higher oil prices shows how brain dead you are. Or is that a straw man too?

  8. #940

    Well

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    What far right wing Americans have voiced support for Putin
    This is disingenuous as you've offered praise for Tucker Carlson who sucks Vlad's 3 inch cock on a nightly basis. I'm also glad to see you identify yourself as "far right" which is generous given your gullible, kooky views. As to spending, yes, we support democracy abroad as the world is a community. Disorder across Europe effects us at home, Duh. Even cock swallowers like Josh Hawley know this, but pitch the isolationist nonsense to dumbfucks like you for his political advantage.

  9. #939

    Oh Please LOL

    Quote Originally Posted by Golfinho  [View Original Post]
    The Ukrunazis are conducting scorched earth tactics destroying all the infrastructure they can along with murdering all the civilians they can while razing their homes and running back to their Banderastan capital. They apparently understand how unwelcome they've been in the territories grafted unto their State by the Soviets.

    They've learned quite a few lessons from Hitler, with the final ones on the way.
    Murdering civilians has long been out of the Russo playbook dating to Chechnya, Syria, Hungary, and Czechoslovakia. We are exacting a heavy price, much to their dismay.

  10. #938

    Is Donetsk Burning?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReinerOtto  [View Original Post]
    But Putler has learned a few lessons from Adolf Hitler. And Stalin. Hitler annexed "Sudetenland" with same argumentation as Putler uses today.
    Stalin annexed part of Finland having "Security Concerns", because border to Finland was too close to Leningrad (St. Petersburg).

    Western contries believed, that .
    The Ukrunazis are conducting scorched earth tactics destroying all the infrastructure they can along with murdering all the civilians they can while razing their homes and running back to their Banderastan capital. They apparently understand how unwelcome they've been in the territories grafted unto their State by the Soviets.

    They've learned quite a few lessons from Hitler, with the final ones on the way.

  11. #937

    Well

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    The hysteria has died down. No, Russia does not look like it is going to blow up everything in sight and stop at taking areas of Ukraine where there is a predominantly Russian population. He has shown no desire to March to the English Channel as some have mentioned. The return on the $40 billion the USA has sent to Ukraine may as well have been lit on fire for all the good it will do, and our nation is suffering with higher oil and gas prices and higher food prices.
    Well when Russia is blowing up maternity wards and breadlines, shooting down seniors in the street and executing civilians in basements they are pretty much "blowing up everything in sight" aren't they? And if he was only interested in conquering areas with Russian speaking populations then why did he try to take Kyiv? You also erect a straw man when you talk about marching to the English Channel when Putin has been clear that he wants to see the restoration of the former USSR in regard to a rollback of NATO to pre-1997. So in essence, out of your love for arguing, you come to the Ukraine free for all thread sympathizing with our enemies with the usual spurious arguments.

    As to your gasoline costs, you deserve to pay double driving an old over sized pickup truck when an economy car will do, no sympathy here. Democracy is and that of our allies is more important than the inconveniences of a selfish twit.

  12. #936

    Ex Africa Aliquid Sempter Nobis

    Ukraine president, Volodymyr Oleksandrovych Zelensky, addressed the African Union yesterday. Out of 55 invited heads of state only four (4) attended the virtual session. The message is America can keep its Ukrainian pervert, who plays piano with his penis.

    Hopefully, the false war will be over soon and Lithuania can be blitzed off the face of the earth as a warning to Canada about treaty obligations. The beggars in Warsaw also need a lesson. The main objective must be to cleanse Europe of Americans, who are behind all this. Can't make an omelette without cracking heads.

  13. #935
    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie97  [View Original Post]
    As to Hunter's laptop, that one is filed away with your 2000 Mules, ballots on Chinese paper, Hillary's emails, Barak's birth certificate, lock her up, stop the steal, John Durham, and the array of Covid conspiracy theories you suckers have been pitching for two years.
    Sorry, Hunter's laptop was real. The claims that the laptop was Russian disinformation was complete bullshit. Hiliary kept emails on an unsecure server illegally. That is a fact, and her case should have gone to trial. It was not appropriate for Comey, who we now know was compromised, to have made the decision not to prosecute. That should have been left to a prosecutor but Loretta Lynch was compromised as well.

    2000 mules is a theory based on circumstantial evidence. The main charge against it is that the cell phone signals are not that accurate, but anyone who uses Uber and can see how accurate GPS is with phones knows that is bullshit. Durham caught a government lawyer lying on a FISA warrant request. He also caught Sussman lying to the FBI. He was found not guilty but no one said he was not lying. And the lab leak theory has now been accepted as possible even by the WHO.

    I do not know about the Chinese paper and yeah, the Obama birth certificate thing was bullshit. Congratulations, you got one right, and that one was 10 years ago.

    So all the things you call bullshit conspiracy theory blew up in your face. Russiagate was a total conspiracy and fraud. Trump being spied on during the campaign was conspiracy theory too until it was proven to be true.

    Hunter Biden was collecting big money from the Ukrainian aid package, and daddy Joe fired the prosecutor looking into said corruption. Nancy Pelosi's kid and Mitt Romney's kid were cashing in too. That is not illegal but it is disgusting. Giving them money was basically legal bribery.

    Then we learned that Ukraine was being run by Democratic operatives in NGOs. Maybe that is not known to the Republicans who voted for this $40 billion in military aid but it should have been. Even the hero to Democrats Marie Yovanovitch, former Ukraine ambassador, admits that had Trump been in office, Putin would not have invaded, and it is not because Trump was Putin's butt boy but because Biden continued to fuck around in Ukraine.

    So here we go again. You dumb Dems unload on Putin like you did on Trump. Your litany of analogies to Hitler, Pot Pol ETC are predictable. Thing is in every situation where that kind of language was used, and a despot was kicked out in recent times, that nation's quality of life went in the toilet. Hell, you just demonized Trump to no end and we got Biden. Covid cases soared with him, we have inflation and $6 gas, a bear market, and shortages of tampons and baby formula. Woo hoo! Of course, like so many of the dumbest Dems you are not in America so you do not see the effects like those of us who live here do, but it is not good.

    So get beyond the name calling, and what have you got? Nothing. Everything was baked into a Ukrainian victory and that is not happening. That $40 billion that was spent has been pissed away. Who cares? You are not paying taxes. Your lazy ass is getting social security checks and cheap health care. Of course, those of us who have to work for it and pay for it are not pleased. I wonder if all you saber rattling dumb Dem freeloaders would have been this way had your SS checks been cut to pay for said aid.

    So now what? You dumb Dems going to continue talking shit about Putin? How does that help? If you want this war over with, and it is pretty clear now you do not, Putin has to be dealt with. He is the only one who can stop it.

    Your grand plan of spending billions of dollars to get a huge boost in the midterms from Putin being kicked out of office has gone up in smoke, and that and only that was what all the trash talking was about. If you all gave a damn about the Ukrainian people, this war would be over with. Hell, you dumb Dems are continuing to throw Ukrainian lives in the toilet just to "weaken" Putin.

  14. #934
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    No, Russia does not look like it is going to blow up everything in sight and stop at taking areas of Ukraine where there is a predominantly Russian population. He has shown no desire to March to the English Channel as some have mentioned.
    But Putler has learned a few lessons from Adolf Hitler. And Stalin. Hitler annexed "Sudetenland" with same argumentation as Putler uses today.

    Only difference: Hitlers army was really welcome with (some) flowers.

    Stalin annexed part of Finland having "Security Concerns", because border to Finland was too close to Leningrad (St. Petersburg).

    Western contries believed, that Hitlers aggression would be fnished, after grabbing "Sudetenland".

    They were wrong.

    Not to make same mistake with Putler again. For whom the Baltics or Moldova might be next countries of interest.

  15. #933
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnClayton  [View Original Post]
    Also, how about Karelia and the Kuril islands?
    Makes sense. Wasn't Karelia annexed by Soviet Union, having "Security Issues" for Leningrad (now St. Petersburg again), because border to Finland was too close?

    Nowadays Putler argues a bit similar.

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