Stupid Shit in the Philippines

[GreenBud]

The whole purpose of this board is to state ones experiences and prices quoted

Correct! But your experiences are fake, since you're a fake. Many of the prices you quoted are incorrect.

For any sane members that want to correspond by private message,

I have never initiated a PM; I just reply to PMs. But for me and others, the initial PMs from you are childish insults.

Now on to meet up, why would any sane person want to meet a guy who sends constant profanity in private message

Again you are incorrect. I have never used any profanity in any PM. The only thing I wrote that can be construed as profanity is when I called you a Moron in my last PM (well deserved). I challenge you again. Prove it / Post it! You on the other hand, you are so childish.

and has had many posts deleted and warnings issued by admin for such,

Again you are incorrect. Only 1 post of mine in the Angeles thread has been deleted. That was because I challenged you to post a picture of a statement on a piece of paper stating something like "Piss off GB". Of course you can't do that. Because of that 1 post, I was warned (next time I will be put on moderation).

Interesting note: I am not on moderation. You are on moderation.

Virtually everything you post should go under the Stupid Shit Section.

[Zippos]

So, on a nutshell. Kiss your money goodbye!

Consumer Financial Protection Bureau? That is a US-based agency. File a complaint here:

https://www.consumerfinance.gov/complaint/

If he rules in your favor, the company you complained about will ignore his recommendations. If he rules in favor of the company (most likely), you also can ignore his recommendations, but you can not take the issue to Court (the issue is finished and muted). This is the essence of non-binding arbitration: nobody wins, feelings are hurt, the vendor is not held responsible, consumers are reminded not to complain, Red Horse will be pounded, and everyone will forgive everyone else. Welcome to Phils.

Sincerely, The Ombudsman.

[WestCoast1]

(2) Card users should adhere to CFPB's compliance rules. One of them is that you cannot charge a card and get refunds on cash in your bank account. Why? Its open for fraud. Imagine folks can game the system by charging cards, getting refunds in their bank account and closing all of them in 2 months. Worse, I used PayPal's 6-months 0% credit to pay them. They are clearly out of compliance. I don't even know how to start reporting them. Does anyone know details? Should we report to CFPB directly?

Consumer Financial Protection Bureau? That is a US-based agency. File a complaint here:

https://www.consumerfinance.gov/complaint/

There is a similar agency in the Phils: Department of Trade and Industry (DTI). You can open a complaint there, but it will do you little good. The DTI stopped dealing with consumer complaints during covid. They developed a separate system of non-binding arbitration. It will work like this: 1) You must go to a DTI office and fill out a complaint. A nice employee will seem sympathetic to your cause. 2) They will inform you that you will receive an email soon regarding setting up a Zoom-type vid call (MS Meeting, or MS Teams app, I think) between a mediator, yourself, and a company representative. 3) Weeks later you will have your vid call with the mediator and company rep. The mediator will explain to all parties that you can not record the meeting, and you can not have an attorney present. The mediator will explain that after mediation, your case can not be filed in Court. Each side must accept these rules to continue the arbitration. Each side will explain its actions regarding the issue to the mediator. 4) At the end of the mediation session, the arbitrator will say that he will send a written ruling at a later date. He will also remind both parties that his ruling is non-binding (meaning neither side must accept his recommendations). 5) A week later, you will receive the arbitrator's decisions / recommendations.

If he rules in your favor, the company you complained about will ignore his recommendations. If he rules in favor of the company (most likely), you also can ignore his recommendations, but you can not take the issue to Court (the issue is finished and muted). This is the essence of non-binding arbitration: nobody wins, feelings are hurt, the vendor is not held responsible, consumers are reminded not to complain, Red Horse will be pounded, and everyone will forgive everyone else. Welcome to Phils.

Sincerely, The Ombudsman.

[PhilJoy]

Just arrived back home after a great business trip and the phone won't stop pinging.

Yes it's the usual process of all the contacts sending messages with those bawling / crying emojis begging to to ask "What's wrong!

"I have ovarian cancer".

"My babies are sick".

"My boyfriend beat me".

"My home is destroyed in Typhoon".

It's worth a try I suppose. But I always let them know I'll reward them next time I see them.

And I do. They just have to be patient.

_ Phil.

[KbNagar]

I always book hotels on an aggregator app because it's so much easier to make changes or cancellations. The only exception is where I'm staying at a hotel, want to extend, but the aggregator is showing no rooms available. Then I walk down and book a room at the front desk from the list that they retain for their own use. In this case there are no concerns about changes or cancellations.

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I'd agree that refunds form hotels can take a long time. I'm talking months, if available at all. Many insist on only providing credits, to be used later, rather than cash reimbursement.

G.

Yeah. I have to go to an aggregator. Couple of things (1) BDO bank refused to honor the cheque. I have to return the cheque tomorrow and wait for a new cheque. I have to take a risk and give them my details tomorrow. (2) Card users should adhere to CFPB's compliance rules. One of them is that you cannot charge a card and get refunds on cash in your bank account. Why? Its open for fraud. Imagine folks can game the system by charging cards, getting refunds in their bank account and closing all of them in 2 months. Worse, I used PayPal's 6-months 0% credit to pay them. They are clearly out of compliance. I don't even know how to start reporting them. Does anyone know details? Should we report to CFPB directly?

[KbNagar]

Hi KB,

I'm just guessing you booked directly through them.

Sometimes rooms can be much cheaper that way, but generally if you go through a hotel booking site you have more protection in this case.

If you did reserve and pay via a hotel booking site, the cancellation policy is usually clearly stated and can be resolved.

_ Phil.

PJ -- yes, I booked directly through them. I never had this problem with City Garden folks. Bay leaf is one stupid shit. From their behavior, I feel that that they are not US card PCI compliant. MOre on this later. Its aggregators moving forward.

[Goferring]

Hi KB,

I'm just guessing you booked directly through them.

Sometimes rooms can be much cheaper that way, but generally if you go through a hotel booking site you have more protection in this case.

If you did reserve and pay via a hotel booking site, the cancellation policy is usually clearly stated and can be resolved.

_ Phil.

I always book hotels on an aggregator app because it's so much easier to make changes or cancellations. The only exception is where I'm staying at a hotel, want to extend, but the aggregator is showing no rooms available. Then I walk down and book a room at the front desk from the list that they retain for their own use. In this case there are no concerns about changes or cancellations.

Flights are the opposite. Organising changes, credits or cancellations through a travel agency is a total PITA. For these, I only deal direct with the airlines. It's also cheaper as airlines generally keep heavily discounted tickets for their own web sites and only pass in higher priced seats to agents etc.

I'd agree that refunds form hotels can take a long time. I'm talking months, if available at all. Many insist on only providing credits, to be used later, rather than cash reimbursement.

G.

[PhilJoy]

They wanted my bankaccount details, which I did not want to share. They said they would issue me a check which I can encash. The name on the cheque did not match my passport (Think of "Christopher booking as Chris"). I have to wait for a couple of more days to get my money back. This is the first time, I am seeing a refund not being sent back to a card. Bizzare.

Hi KB,

I'm just guessing you booked directly through them.

Sometimes rooms can be much cheaper that way, but generally if you go through a hotel booking site you have more protection in this case.

If you did reserve and pay via a hotel booking site, the cancellation policy is usually clearly stated and can be resolved.

_ Phil.

[KbNagar]

This was an interesting experience. I was chatting with someone in pinalove as a prep to my trip. She stayed around Quaipo area. To make it simpler, I decided to book a room in Bayleaf which is bang in the heart the old town manila. After I booked, I repented the cost since it was very high. I found a City Garden Suites which was a bit cheaper and felt, I can take that. Decided to cancel my reservation. After a few days did not get the refun on my card and casually checked on when would the refund be issued. I was told that they would maintain credit and I coudl use them whenever I stayed. I said I may not come that side please issue me a refund. They wanted my bankaccount details, which I did not want to share. They said they would issue me a check which I can encash. The name on the cheque did not match my passport (Think of "Christopher booking as Chris"). I have to wait for a couple of more days to get my money back. This is the first time, I am seeing a refund not being sent back to a card. Bizzare.

[PhilJoy]

Amazing report that Westie has cached. Phil -- your experience also seems amazing. Seems like a dream. I wonder whether such surprise reports are limited to folks with a skin color predominantly white. I hear folks with black skin color also get surprises. What about folks who are brown skinned? Have we seen experience reports? Just wondering.

Hi KB,

I haven't seen any specific reports here regarding brown skinned guys.

I'll be honest, I have been with a few girls who won't sleep with Asian Indians and then there are others who are over dealing with old, fat, Australian, British and American alcoholics. A few girls have also told me they won't sleep with Germans. Basically, it's an economy. If they really need the cash (and the vast majority do), they'll open their legs for anyone.

The most consistent feedback I've had from girls, is that foreigners generally smell of BO after a day in warm weather or don't take care of their personal hygiene. If you take care of yourself you'll probably experience more of a GF experience as opposed to a rushed job for cash. Just my experience. Phil.

[GreenBud]

As someone that lives and works very near angeles and is in the bars very often expecially Q bar then my up to date information, visits and experiences show that in fact Qbar is heavily populated with korean customers hence why I call it korean orientated

You are totally fully of shit. You are a fake. You've never been to the Q bar. Virtually every time in the Q bar, less than half are Koreans.

I challenge you again. Take a picture on Walking Street with a handwritten note saying something like NS is real, or piss off GB. Can't do that? Because you're a fake.

Over the years, a lot of the crap you write is BS, fake, or an exaggeration. Recently, I've been calling you out of many of the stuff you write. Most of them you don't have any answers. Some you reply with BS.

And you know this how? By your own admissions your last very short angeles visit was last year, the 1st one for you in a few years, so not sure what up to date information or experience you can offer this board.

More BS. When did I write that I haven't been there in a few years. Prove it and I will apologize to you. Nope, you can't, because what you write is BS.

quote misinformation like your misinformation of angeles XS bar is not run by koreans and also has a korean manager

Again, you are full of shit. I have never seen a Korean manager, or even a Korean papasan at XS.

your recent claims of no nudity could be found in thai bars of nana plaza Bangkok until you were corrected by a fellow board members who lives in Bangkok stating that in fact you did not know what you were talking about and that there are several such bars in nana plaza just as I had correctly said and written previously in the angeles forum.

You know nothing about Nana Plaza. You never mentioned anything when asked. All you write about is a poster who contradicted me and said there was fully nudity in Nana. I still question that, but I am not going to get into a flame war with him on that subject. NO ONE has written about fully nudity in Nana Plaza in the Bangkok thread for many years. Maybe they stop it in December; maybe there's definition issues between organized fully nudity and lady drink nudity. I will check and report on it in December. Something you are not able to do.

correctly said and written previously in the angeles forum

Many of the things you write is incorrect. Most of them when you are called out, you don't even answer back. Some you write back with incorrect info.

Also, the things you write on your obnoxious PMs are so childish. All you ever write is insults and accusations of being in grandma's basement. Are you looking in a mirror?

[KbNagar]

Great read Westie. Loved the bit about the Starbucks girl leaving her phone number on his coffee cup. On a business trip to Cebu a while back, I decided to buy a cheap local phone on Mactan just for hook-ups in the Phils and I had the girl / lady set it up for me.

Within an hour I received a text message saying, "Hello Sir, I'm the phone sales lady. Would you like to meet me when I finish work?" Yes indeed.

Well, it was a very memorable night and she was absolutely outstanding in the sack and extremely petite and pretty. The tip was 1000 pesos and a cheap 200 peso meal. I think when I said 'Mahal Kita" after she set up the phone for me, it may have helped.

Just disappointed I didn't keep in touch with her for future visits. Phil.

Amazing report that Westie has cached. Phil -- your experience also seems amazing. Seems like a dream. I wonder whether such surprise reports are limited to folks with a skin color predominantly white. I hear folks with black skin color also get surprises. What about folks who are brown skinned? Have we seen experience reports? Just wondering.

[AussieGaigin]

Actually that's not unreasonable. Whats to stop 6 people going in there, one person getting the buffet and everyone sharing the food? Its very common that if there is buffet, all people on the table must take that option. Its got nothing to do with you being a foreigner. I would have not made a fuss over 200 peso either.

Most of the AYCE buffets I've been to, you have to pay to get in the door, and probably give you a plate or ticket. Six people trying to get in on one ticket would be highly unlikely. Some places have a time limit as well.

I remember one place I used in Sydney a few years ago. The place was near empty, so I took my time, and went back to the food a few times to get small servings of different dishes. After about the 4th or 5th time, the waitress came over and asked if I'd like a clean plate. She took the dirty one away, and never came back LOL.

[Zippos]

Funny how Asia functions. Some are open to all and some are exclusive to lifetime commitments.

I met a 40 year old virgin ones from Bandung, she flat out told me, she will visit me and stay with me in my hotel room, she will give me BJ, HJ and I can go down to her except no insertion of any sort unless I marry her. I found similar one in Medan too, not sure if they have some sort of guide for rules of engagement to preserve virginity but just out of respect and to not to get hitched, I steered off.

My Batanguena MILF that I'm going to spend time with in Manila, has a 19 yr old virgin sister and apparently she has a Philipino American BF and preserving herself for him. Sadly non FnF package for me here.

Lastly, one of my best friend in Jakarta, Inactually met her at airport no dating site or any of those dens. We go on a date every time I'm in Jakarta and always an awesome pleasant quality time with her. So yeah, I can see and understand both sides and respect equally.

The PI and Asia in general has the false reputation that all girls are happy to jump into bed with any foreigner for a few peso / baht / rupiah. Out in the wider world, away from the bars and clubs, this couldn't be further from the truth. Sure there are many who will but there are many many more who won't. The surprising thing is that there are never any surprises. The girls are very upfront before even meeting or going out. I've had several tell me that that she is a virgin, happy go out but won't be sleeping with me. I believed them. And I'm talking about attractive and personable girls. Definitely not hags that are too ugly to find a guy.

I received flack before for saying this but as a resident, where pussy was available 24/7, day after day, it was actually refreshing to go on a platonic date with an attractive girl who could actually string together a conversation beyond 'where you from, where you stay?

It should go without saying that I didn't meet these girls in a bar or on hook up apps.

Cheers. G.

[D Cups]

Actually that's not unreasonable. Whats to stop 6 people going in there, one person getting the buffet and everyone sharing the food? Its very common that if there is buffet, all people on the table must take that option. Its got nothing to do with you being a foreigner. I would have not made a fuss over 200 peso either.

EA has a reading comprehension problem. Other than that he might be an ok guy I dunno.