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  1. #4900
    Quote Originally Posted by Intelligencium  [View Original Post]
    I was shitting my pants too. I kept it brief in the report not to bore people, but I still remember that moment when I realized that if she is telling the truth and I don't pay, my life as I know may be over. My heart rate was beating fast and I was picturing cops showing up to the hotel, arresting me and then newspapers covering my case. The threat of goons was also scary because I was planning to leave the hotel to meet with the Ukranian+Polish girl and didn't want to get beaten up outside.

    But I have dabbled in meditation and I decided to focus on my breathing and slow down the heart rate. In the worst case I would pay her and the money was not a major factor, but I thought let me think this through with a calm mind. Few things stood out:

    1. She and her friend had hinted that they live with their parents. So she and her family would be dragged into this if she was really underage, and I don't think she would have risked all that for her friend getting stood up.

    2. She used the underage tactic when nothing else worked, so clearly she was inventing stuff. And she didn't follow through on any of the other threats so far (going to hotel manager, coming with goons etc).

    3. The telegram / whatsapp number I had was a burner e-sim. She also didn't have any of my face pics. She didn't know my real name. And although she may have remembered my room number, I doubted that.

    I took a gamble. May be I should not have risked it and just paid her. But I get unreasonably annoyed at scam artists and decided to take a stance.
    If you met these girls on SA, you have a measure of safety since they are supposed to check ages. Remember, this is a dating site, not an escort site. The site has more to fear as they can be shut down. I would have checked out of the hotel.

  2. #4899

    Escalation

    Yeah, this is step by step escalation tactic. Good you didn't relent.

    I don't think paying for sex in Spain is illegal (most European countries are open unlike US).

    At that point, I would have told her "try your luck. I will tell the police that you ran away with valuables from my room".

    Quote Originally Posted by Intelligencium  [View Original Post]
    I was shitting my pants too. I kept it brief in the report not to bore people, but I still remember that moment when I realized that if she is telling the truth and I don't pay, my life as I know may be over. My heart rate was beating fast and I was picturing cops showing up to the hotel, arresting me and then newspapers covering my case. The threat of goons was also scary because I was planning to leave the hotel to meet with the Ukranian+Polish girl and didn't want to get beaten up outside.

    But I have dabbled in meditation and I decided to focus on my breathing and slow down the heart rate. In the worst case I would pay her and the money was not a major factor, but I thought let me think this through with a calm mind. Few things stood out:

    1. She and her friend had hinted that they live with their parents. So she and her family would be dragged into this if she was really underage, and I don't think she would have risked all that for her friend getting stood up.

    2. She used the underage tactic when nothing else worked, so clearly she was inventing stuff. And she didn't follow through on any of the other threats so far (going to hotel manager, coming with goons etc).

    3. The telegram / whatsapp number I had was a burner e-sim. She also didn't have any of my face pics. She didn't know my real name. And although she may have remembered my room number, I doubted that.

    I took a gamble. May be I should not have risked it and just paid her. But I get unreasonably annoyed at scam artists and decided to take a stance.

  3. #4898
    Quote Originally Posted by Intelligencium  [View Original Post]
    Late afternoon, Naz and I are texting each other again. She thanks me again for the envelope and the message. But the situation doesn't seem to be improving. She can't seem to let go of what happened and how I made her feel. In my mind, I think she has developed feelings for me, and continuing this would be bad for both of us. So I gather some courage, and (like a coward) text her that we should be friends but I don't think we should have sex anymore. Few more back and forth texts happen, where she tries to convince me that it's not about sex (which I don't buy), we decide it is indeed best to break this off.

    And that's the end of that story. Well, kinda. We still kept in touch over text as friends. Two days later, she gets sick and is hospitalized. I visited her in the hospital the next day, and a few more times until I left Barcelona. On the final day she cries when I am leaving. And we are still in touch as friends (and tease each other) even after I am back in the US (she is out of the hospital and doing well now). We talked about the incident a little and apart from the stupid things I did, she says she also over-reacted at that time...
    First off, pat yourself on the back. You got a super hot chick not just to like you but to totally fall for you. Celebrate that. It is a helluva an accomplishment.

    I looked up Spain's law and they are a little more strict than Latin America's but there is a much different attitude in Latin America with rape. Outside of if you are married and your wife finding out, these women really have little power, but American men are so frightened they do not understand how often con men (or in this case women) roam the Latina world.

    I was freaked out the first time I got threatened. By the third and fourth time, I blocked them and forgot about them in minutes. Saying I was under age, raped, got pregnant, going to trash you on social media, going to send these men over unless I get money is all extortion. They are the ones breaking the law not you. Kudos to you for not buckling but just know if you continue to play this game, these threats will happen again. What is much more important is really knowing what you want.

    I think you might be defensive that a woman who really likes you might fuck up your marriage. I would not let that stand in your way. As you found out, someone who really likes you is less likely to hurt you. The best part of seeking is being with the ones who really like you. I would tread much more carefully in other countries but I was surprised how understanding women were to me when I told them I was married back when I was. Many women prefer a hands off, secure married guy to a needy single guy wanting to date them.

    I get the need for finding "new pussy" but that "new pussy" search is typically going to be what you had, a disappointment. What I found is if I had three great SBs and rotated them and kept myself open to possible upgrades, that strong need for "new pussy" was greatly diminished. I loved my SBs but was not in love with them if you know what I mean.

    Intelligencium, I do not know where you are at in your life, but the fun I had four wheeling, ziplining, swimming, seeing shows with my women was as much fun as the sex with them was. It can be a lot better going deeper with the good ones than searching for new.

    The main thing to having success in the sugar world is really believing you can get hot women to like you for you, and you fucking did that! The world is your oyster now.

  4. #4897
    Quote Originally Posted by Intelligencium  [View Original Post]
    This is Part 5 of my "Dating Tour". I highly recommend reading at least Part 4 to get the context for this post.
    At 9:45 pm, I get a ping from Laura's friend that she is outside the hotel! WHAT THE FUCK. WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK. (Readers, learn more lessons from my failures / travails). I tell her that she should have pinged me before leaving for my place, how did she know where to come and that I can't meet her. She gets upset and demands 100 euros as cab money. I scoff at her and say bye. And then start getting messages from Laura. She is upset that I stood her friend up, and now is threatening me with "consequences" unless I pay her friend 200. She says will come to the hotel and tell the manager what I have been doing in their hotel. I brush that off. She says she is coming there with 3 guys to teach me a lesson. I get a bit worried, being alone in a strange country and all, but decide to keep my cool. She says she will go to the police and tell them that I paid for sex. I laugh it off. Then she says she will tell the police how I fucked someone underage (her). FUCK. FUCK. FUCK. At this point I start to get worried. She says that she lied about her age and it would have been my responsibility to check her ID before sex. And that I need to pay her friend 200 bucks for all the stress I caused her.
    Just FYI, age of consent in Spain is 16. Almost entire EU is 16 or even lower. Did she really looked like she could be less than 16 ?

    =============================================

    Greetings Gentlemen,

    The Age of Consent is the age in which girls can participate in consensual, non-commercial sex with their teen-age boyfriend without said teen-age boyfriend being charged with statutory rape.

    However, the Age of Consent is irrelevant to the members of this forum.

    What you need to focus on is the Age of Majority, which among other things is the age in which they can vote, get married, enlist in the military, and participate in commercial sex activities.

    Please exercise caution and govern yourself accordingly.

    Thanks,

    Admin

  5. #4896
    Thanks! I get unreasonable when I am pissed. Luckily it worked out in this case.

    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiBoy1  [View Original Post]
    Good report, brother. Shit happens, but it's good that you have balls to say NO and not let these hoes decide for you. Good call not paying 200 for underage BS.

  6. #4895
    Quote Originally Posted by SeekingHead  [View Original Post]
    It's the main sugar baby sight in the US & Around the world.

    I have done good lately with sugar daddy meets as well, been back in the states 2 weeks & have hit 4 women between $250-350 off the site.

    What is pricing like in Europe?, I'm very seriously thinking about retiring in Southern Spain & will want to have 1 main SB who I see a few times a month.
    What job do you do? I'm finishing an international business degree and want to be able to travel and still earn U. S dollars from the laptop or through on location work.

  7. #4894
    Quote Originally Posted by Gfefan  [View Original Post]
    US is all about platinum pussies.
    Yea man even the most average girl wants 500 and up.

    I just had a Brazilian quote me 1 k for a few hours. She's 37 years old, that same chick would cost me $50 in Brazil.
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  8. #4893
    You are better than I.

    I've shared this before but one time a crazy ***** was so crazy and crying and volatile that I gave her 700 dollars to just leave. No sex. Just to leave. I was scared she was going to accuse me of something just from sheer craziness and as a married guy I can't be getting entwined in that stuff. Just gave her the money to buy my way out of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Intelligencium  [View Original Post]
    I was shitting my pants too. I kept it brief in the report not to bore people, but I still remember that moment when I realized that if she is telling the truth and I don't pay, my life as I know may be over. My heart rate was beating fast and I was picturing cops showing up to the hotel, arresting me and then newspapers covering my case. The threat of goons was also scary because I was planning to leave the hotel to meet with the Ukranian+Polish girl and didn't want to get beaten up outside.

    But I have dabbled in meditation and I decided to focus on my breathing and slow down the heart rate. In the worst case I would pay her and the money was not a major factor, but I thought let me think this through with a calm mind. Few things stood out:

    1. She and her friend had hinted that they live with their parents. So she and her family would be dragged into this if she was really underage, and I don't think she would have risked all that for her friend getting stood up.

    2. She used the underage tactic when nothing else worked, so clearly she was inventing stuff. And she didn't follow through on any of the other threats so far (going to hotel manager, coming with goons etc)..

  9. #4892
    I wish I was posting these reports live. I could have used this advice so much. Unfortunately, my reports are a month+ old, so all I can do is learn from the mistakes and from the advice you all give.

    So as you will see in my Part 5 report, you were right. I should have let Naz lead the way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    Threesomes are tough sometimes to get but my rule was treat women the same if you meet them at the same time. If your woman initiates the threesome, then you both follow your woman's lead in this case that would be Naz. Laura is the sub and Naz is dominant so whatever Naz wants, she gets. You showed too much interest in Laura.

    One of the issues when you see escorts so much or have your ego beaten down by your wife (in my case ex-wife), you actually get it into your head, that women could ONLY like you for money. With my gal, it took me like four months to understand that she really liked me and a bunch of shit tests to prove it.

    I think I need to give that ex-pat who owned a restaurant in Brazil a name so let's call him Stan, and Stan said relationships move 8 X faster in Brazil than in the USA. That is the rule of Stan. LOL.

    So yeah, Naz thinks that she is your GF, and she probably thought so a few hours after meeting you. So in this case, unless she is a psycho, buy her something nice, apologize, say that you had the time of your life with her and that you really like her. After a while with her and making her feel special and secure, that is when you suggest another threesome where you promise to respect her lead and put her #1.

    You will have a much better time sexually with her than without her, and the trips I had with two and three woman in Cancun were among the most fun times I had in my life. What you do with that after your trip is up to you, but she does really like you like a GF would.

  10. #4891

    It wasn't easy

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanPi  [View Original Post]
    You're stronger than me. At that underage comment I'd have caved and paid. Good on you for your lucidity.
    I was shitting my pants too. I kept it brief in the report not to bore people, but I still remember that moment when I realized that if she is telling the truth and I don't pay, my life as I know may be over. My heart rate was beating fast and I was picturing cops showing up to the hotel, arresting me and then newspapers covering my case. The threat of goons was also scary because I was planning to leave the hotel to meet with the Ukranian+Polish girl and didn't want to get beaten up outside.

    But I have dabbled in meditation and I decided to focus on my breathing and slow down the heart rate. In the worst case I would pay her and the money was not a major factor, but I thought let me think this through with a calm mind. Few things stood out:

    1. She and her friend had hinted that they live with their parents. So she and her family would be dragged into this if she was really underage, and I don't think she would have risked all that for her friend getting stood up.

    2. She used the underage tactic when nothing else worked, so clearly she was inventing stuff. And she didn't follow through on any of the other threats so far (going to hotel manager, coming with goons etc).

    3. The telegram / whatsapp number I had was a burner e-sim. She also didn't have any of my face pics. She didn't know my real name. And although she may have remembered my room number, I doubted that.

    I took a gamble. May be I should not have risked it and just paid her. But I get unreasonably annoyed at scam artists and decided to take a stance.

  11. #4890

    Kudos!

    Kudos Intelligencium!!

    Thanks for the efforts to share your stories in such detail. It gives mongers like me some inspiration to dive in while learning to avoid the same mistake.

    To all,

    I am planning a trip to Madrid. Any suggestions on high end hotels centrally located for restaurant meetups and with a worthy rooftop bar?

    Quote Originally Posted by Intelligencium  [View Original Post]
    This is Part 5 of my "Dating Tour". I highly recommend reading at least Part 4 to get the context for this post.

    Part 1 (stats) is here: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2842652.

    Part 2 (Prep) is here: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2844638.

    Part 3 (Madrid) is here (Steve's fav): http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2844961.

    Part 4 (Barcelona. First half) is here: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2845741.

    Day 4 in Barcelona - the worst day of the tour

    The Morning After

    Some of you have correctly pointed out my mistakes. In my defense, this was my first threesome and I would say my biggest mistake was going into it without any prep. I should have googled "what to expect in your first threesome" or something along those lines before jumping into it. I tried asking Naz a couple of times but as I mentioned in the last post, she did not really offer anything concrete. So, I am a newbie to: casual sex, to seeking, to sugar relationships, to threesomes and almost a newbie to having a relationship/being with a girlfriend. And I was drunk and horny. Bad combination. I clearly am no Stud in this area. My only hope is that writing this down helps fellow mongers. Good luck!

    So back to Barcelona and my state of mind then. I wake up late, text Naz to see how she is doing, and we decide to meet up for Brunch. I am frustrated at the situation, I don't understand what I did wrong and I hate that I am basically in a "relationship" on my so-called Dating / Sugar tour.

    Also, at this point, I already owe her a good amount of money. Not just the sugar money / allowance, but money she spent on me for Uber Eats, buying tickets for some touristy things that somehow I couldn't buy etc. So I put the cash I owe her (allowance and the other stuff) in an envelope and take it to brunch. I also write a nice message on the envelope saying how much the time we spent together meant to me. We had discussed the allowance amount at some point yesterday (in the strip club of all places) and I had proposed an amount that she seemed happy about. But that amount (quite large) was assuming she would spend many more days with me.

    At brunch, she tries to explain to me what behavior from me made her feel bad. Few things she called: a) I pinged girls for threesome before asking her, b) I made the first move on Laura, c) I fucked Laura without involving her and d) the stupid things I said. I start to understand, but I am still processing. We decided to give each other space for the time being. I tell her I owe her a lot of money, so I want to pay and put the envelope in her purse. She is pleasantly surprised and happy, especially since she is going through a bad time financially.

    I spent the afternoon walking around Barcelona streets alone, enjoying the city. Found an erotic massage place nearby (Brahma massage) and got a session there (it was OK. I might have enjoyed it more if I had not experienced what I had experienced in the last 7 days or so. Haha).

    Late afternoon, Naz and I are texting each other again. She thanks me again for the envelope and the message. But the situation doesn't seem to be improving. She can't seem to let go of what happened and how I made her feel. In my mind, I think she has developed feelings for me, and continuing this would be bad for both of us. So I gather some courage, and (like a coward) text her that we should be friends but I don't think we should have sex anymore. Few more back and forth texts happen, where she tries to convince me that it's not about sex (which I don't buy), we decide it is indeed best to break this off.

    And that's the end of that story. Well, kinda. We still kept in touch over text as friends. Two days later, she gets sick and is hospitalized. I visited her in the hospital the next day, and a few more times until I left Barcelona. On the final day she cries when I am leaving. And we are still in touch as friends (and tease each other) even after I am back in the US (she is out of the hospital and doing well now). We talked about the incident a little and apart from the stupid things I did, she says she also over-reacted at that time.

    Dear readers, I don't know if there is a moral to the story. Decide for yourself.

    Day 4 night - WTF continues

    After "breaking up" With Naz late afternoon, I attended some work meetings over VC from the hotel. Between meetings I restart my search for a post-Naz Barcelona dating tour. I ping Laura again (the threesome girl). She is happy to hear from me, but starts pushing for her "friend" Who lives closer to me. Proposes a threesome with her and her friend. But her friend is a bit chubby for my taste and I stay non-committal and explain to her that I would love to meet her instead. Turns out her friend is someone I was chatting with on SA / telegram (and she is much cuter / thinner in her pics SA) and the friend starts pinging me on telegram. Desperate for a plan, I decide to keep her as a fallback option and tell her that maybe we can meet at 10 pm after my meetings end. I am pinging other prospects on SA, and start getting some worthwhile leads.

    At 9:45 pm, I get a ping from Laura's friend that she is outside the hotel! WHAT THE FUCK. WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK. (Readers, learn more lessons from my failures / travails). I tell her that she should have pinged me before leaving for my place, how did she know where to come and that I can't meet her. She gets upset and demands 100 euros as cab money. I scoff at her and say bye. And then start getting messages from Laura. She is upset that I stood her friend up, and now is threatening me with "consequences" unless I pay her friend 200. She says will come to the hotel and tell the manager what I have been doing in their hotel. I brush that off. She says she is coming there with 3 guys to teach me a lesson. I get a bit worried, being alone in a strange country and all, but decide to keep my cool. She says she will go to the police and tell them that I paid for sex. I laugh it off. Then she says she will tell the police how I fucked someone underage (her). FUCK. FUCK. FUCK. At this point I start to get worried. She says that she lied about her age and it would have been my responsibility to check her ID before sex. And that I need to pay her friend 200 bucks for all the stress I caused her.

    I am a bit scared at this point, but I take a deep breath and try to put two and two together. Clearly she is lying, because she tried many different ways to intimidate me and when nothing worked, she tried to intimidate me with this "underage" BS. I block her and her friend on telegram and SA, and decide to find someone else. And make a note: check the girls' ID next time if they look young!

    Unfortunately, the night doesn't get any better. I finally get a date, a good 8/10, through SA and when we meet she turns out to be a 6/10. But she is interesting. Ukrainian and Polish mix, lived in Germany, Switzerland and Netherlands. Was a ballet dancer for 10 years, but broke her ankle badly, and since then tried a couple of professions (including being a stripper) and now works as a waitress in Barcelona.

    After drinks and dinner, we decide to go to a strip club. She has a soft spot for strippers, so I am happy to indulge her. I pay the steep entrance fee (50 Euro per person), then a 60 Euro fee to get closer to the pole dance area. So far I have spent 150+ on her already. We are sitting at the strip club, enjoying the show and a hookah, when a stripper comes to chit-chat. She is not my type, so I politely decline her offers. But my date says we should go to the private room. Private room is 200 Euros, so I ask the stripper what happens there. She is vague, you know the usual, "oh honey, it's private, there will be champagne and we can have fun". I have seen this movie before, so I politely decline again. But my date is insistent. She really wants to do it. This time I firmly say No. I tell her I am happy to buy her a lap dance if she wants. But she likes this girl a lot and insists on going private. Keeps bugging me about it. About how I should really spend some money, about how I am being stingy etc. I am pissed. It's my money and she is not even asking for my opinion about the stripper. I tell her NO, and she says that she will go, and I say, please do. And she leaves.

    Fuck her.

    Fuck this day.

    And Fuck this night.

    I end the night with a lap dance from a girl who is my type and go to the hotel alone and end this fuckless day.

  12. #4889
    Quote Originally Posted by Intelligencium  [View Original Post]
    This is Part 5 of my "Dating Tour". I highly recommend reading at least Part 4 to get the context for this post.


    I end the night with a lap dance from a girl who is my type and go to the hotel alone and end this fuckless day.
    Good report, brother. Shit happens, but it's good that you have balls to say NO and not let these hoes decide for you. Good call not paying 200 for underage BS.

  13. #4888
    Quote Originally Posted by Intelligencium  [View Original Post]
    This is Part 5 of my "Dating Tour". I highly recommend reading at least Part 4 to get the context for this post..
    That was a great read with my morno coffee.

    You're stronger than me. At that underage comment I'd have caved and paid. Good on you for your lucidity.

    The way you go about your travels is so much like how I do my European trips. In fact Barcelona was just like that except without the drama and the threesome. Lots of cat and mouse, highs and lows, wins and losses.

    Great story.

  14. #4887

    Flaking

    What's going on with the flakes on seeking? I have a bunch of girls that reached out to me agreed to meet me this summer, then when I arrive in their city or arrange their flights to come see me, they go ghost on me or leave me on read.
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  15. #4886

    Dating / Girlfriend Tour: Part 5 - the aftermath of my first threesome

    Quote Originally Posted by Intelligencium  [View Original Post]
    This is Part 4 of my "Dating Tour"
    This is Part 5 of my "Dating Tour". I highly recommend reading at least Part 4 to get the context for this post.

    Part 1 (stats) is here: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2842652.

    Part 2 (Prep) is here: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2844638.

    Part 3 (Madrid) is here (Steve's fav): http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2844961.

    Part 4 (Barcelona. First half) is here: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2845741.

    Day 4 in Barcelona - the worst day of the tour

    The Morning After

    Some of you have correctly pointed out my mistakes. In my defense, this was my first threesome and I would say my biggest mistake was going into it without any prep. I should have googled "what to expect in your first threesome" or something along those lines before jumping into it. I tried asking Naz a couple of times but as I mentioned in the last post, she did not really offer anything concrete. So, I am a newbie to: casual sex, to seeking, to sugar relationships, to threesomes and almost a newbie to having a relationship/being with a girlfriend. And I was drunk and horny. Bad combination. I clearly am no Stud in this area. My only hope is that writing this down helps fellow mongers. Good luck!

    So back to Barcelona and my state of mind then. I wake up late, text Naz to see how she is doing, and we decide to meet up for Brunch. I am frustrated at the situation, I don't understand what I did wrong and I hate that I am basically in a "relationship" on my so-called Dating / Sugar tour.

    Also, at this point, I already owe her a good amount of money. Not just the sugar money / allowance, but money she spent on me for Uber Eats, buying tickets for some touristy things that somehow I couldn't buy etc. So I put the cash I owe her (allowance and the other stuff) in an envelope and take it to brunch. I also write a nice message on the envelope saying how much the time we spent together meant to me. We had discussed the allowance amount at some point yesterday (in the strip club of all places) and I had proposed an amount that she seemed happy about. But that amount (quite large) was assuming she would spend many more days with me.

    At brunch, she tries to explain to me what behavior from me made her feel bad. Few things she called: a) I pinged girls for threesome before asking her, b) I made the first move on Laura, c) I fucked Laura without involving her and d) the stupid things I said. I start to understand, but I am still processing. We decided to give each other space for the time being. I tell her I owe her a lot of money, so I want to pay and put the envelope in her purse. She is pleasantly surprised and happy, especially since she is going through a bad time financially.

    I spent the afternoon walking around Barcelona streets alone, enjoying the city. Found an erotic massage place nearby (Brahma massage) and got a session there (it was OK. I might have enjoyed it more if I had not experienced what I had experienced in the last 7 days or so. Haha).

    Late afternoon, Naz and I are texting each other again. She thanks me again for the envelope and the message. But the situation doesn't seem to be improving. She can't seem to let go of what happened and how I made her feel. In my mind, I think she has developed feelings for me, and continuing this would be bad for both of us. So I gather some courage, and (like a coward) text her that we should be friends but I don't think we should have sex anymore. Few more back and forth texts happen, where she tries to convince me that it's not about sex (which I don't buy), we decide it is indeed best to break this off.

    And that's the end of that story. Well, kinda. We still kept in touch over text as friends. Two days later, she gets sick and is hospitalized. I visited her in the hospital the next day, and a few more times until I left Barcelona. On the final day she cries when I am leaving. And we are still in touch as friends (and tease each other) even after I am back in the US (she is out of the hospital and doing well now). We talked about the incident a little and apart from the stupid things I did, she says she also over-reacted at that time.

    Dear readers, I don't know if there is a moral to the story. Decide for yourself.

    Day 4 night - WTF continues

    After "breaking up" With Naz late afternoon, I attended some work meetings over VC from the hotel. Between meetings I restart my search for a post-Naz Barcelona dating tour. I ping Laura again (the threesome girl). She is happy to hear from me, but starts pushing for her "friend" Who lives closer to me. Proposes a threesome with her and her friend. But her friend is a bit chubby for my taste and I stay non-committal and explain to her that I would love to meet her instead. Turns out her friend is someone I was chatting with on SA / telegram (and she is much cuter / thinner in her pics SA) and the friend starts pinging me on telegram. Desperate for a plan, I decide to keep her as a fallback option and tell her that maybe we can meet at 10 pm after my meetings end. I am pinging other prospects on SA, and start getting some worthwhile leads.

    At 9:45 pm, I get a ping from Laura's friend that she is outside the hotel! WHAT THE FUCK. WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK. (Readers, learn more lessons from my failures / travails). I tell her that she should have pinged me before leaving for my place, how did she know where to come and that I can't meet her. She gets upset and demands 100 euros as cab money. I scoff at her and say bye. And then start getting messages from Laura. She is upset that I stood her friend up, and now is threatening me with "consequences" unless I pay her friend 200. She says will come to the hotel and tell the manager what I have been doing in their hotel. I brush that off. She says she is coming there with 3 guys to teach me a lesson. I get a bit worried, being alone in a strange country and all, but decide to keep my cool. She says she will go to the police and tell them that I paid for sex. I laugh it off. Then she says she will tell the police how I fucked someone underage (her). FUCK. FUCK. FUCK. At this point I start to get worried. She says that she lied about her age and it would have been my responsibility to check her ID before sex. And that I need to pay her friend 200 bucks for all the stress I caused her.

    I am a bit scared at this point, but I take a deep breath and try to put two and two together. Clearly she is lying, because she tried many different ways to intimidate me and when nothing worked, she tried to intimidate me with this "underage" BS. I block her and her friend on telegram and SA, and decide to find someone else. And make a note: check the girls' ID next time if they look young!

    Unfortunately, the night doesn't get any better. I finally get a date, a good 8/10, through SA and when we meet she turns out to be a 6/10. But she is interesting. Ukrainian and Polish mix, lived in Germany, Switzerland and Netherlands. Was a ballet dancer for 10 years, but broke her ankle badly, and since then tried a couple of professions (including being a stripper) and now works as a waitress in Barcelona.

    After drinks and dinner, we decide to go to a strip club. She has a soft spot for strippers, so I am happy to indulge her. I pay the steep entrance fee (50 Euro per person), then a 60 Euro fee to get closer to the pole dance area. So far I have spent 150+ on her already. We are sitting at the strip club, enjoying the show and a hookah, when a stripper comes to chit-chat. She is not my type, so I politely decline her offers. But my date says we should go to the private room. Private room is 200 Euros, so I ask the stripper what happens there. She is vague, you know the usual, "oh honey, it's private, there will be champagne and we can have fun". I have seen this movie before, so I politely decline again. But my date is insistent. She really wants to do it. This time I firmly say No. I tell her I am happy to buy her a lap dance if she wants. But she likes this girl a lot and insists on going private. Keeps bugging me about it. About how I should really spend some money, about how I am being stingy etc. I am pissed. It's my money and she is not even asking for my opinion about the stripper. I tell her NO, and she says that she will go, and I say, please do. And she leaves.

    Fuck her.

    Fuck this day.

    And Fuck this night.

    I end the night with a lap dance from a girl who is my type and go to the hotel alone and end this fuckless day.

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