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  1. #3754
    First seeking date in a few months and it was mixed. Met at a bar, conversation was natural so we went back to hotel. She'the asked over text before if I was open to more if we liked each other and of course I said yes. Once we're in the room start making out but she's sucking on my lips pretty hard and almost biting them. Lots of tongue as well. Clothes come out, start fingering her but noticed a fishy smell. I'the taken a v before and usually it works but nothing this time. Not sure if the biting and smell did it or if it was because I rubbed one out earlier. I usually don't before but I thought of something about Mary and the line about not going out with a loaded gun since I usually pop fast on the first. After she gave me head I was able to fuck her covered in doggy for a little but couldn't stay up. We made out with the occasional fingering for a few more hours before she had to go. I even took a 2nd v about an hour later to see if it'the work but not much. We chatted a little about seeking and she told me she's doing it to cover a large bill. I respect that but wonder if she'll be gone once she's got enough. Also said no bb for now since she's trying to date normally which is a bummer.

    My last two seeking experiences before this one ended with me getting scammed or thinking I was getting scammed so I was pretty nervous going in. When I got scammed the girl ran off when I was in the bathroom with the money so I was anxious leaving the room. Nothing happened luckily but still not sure about seeing her again or seeking in general. Wonder if my dick is doing the thinking for me and sending me a message LOL.

    Pros:

    Willing to explore BDSM, was ok with choking.

    Not a scammer / trust.

    Cons:

    Biting, smell a turn off.

    Cost me almost a grand total with ppm and hotel.

  2. #3753

    Starting to see a 4th group of women on SA

    So as I have been immersed in this SA world a few things have happened. First, my desire for pros is almost non-existent because I'm getting much better experiences for cost per hour and more attractive women.

    However, as I have sharpened my skills I am seeing a new group of women on the site (my opinion / experience).

    Here are the categories:

    1. Pure Pros-escorts, SW, hardened prostitutes-$ exchanged from the beginning.

    2. Semi-pros- retired escorts, semi-retired escorts, strippers, escort as needed - $ money exchanged from the beginning.

    3. Gold diggers, professional sbs, the uglies / fatties that can't get laid, pure nymphos (surprising amount) - mostly money exchanged, except for the nymphos, uglies / fatties.

    4. So this group is the strangest imo and growing. They are there because a friend told them to try, they are curious because they watched a news segment, YouTube etc, or believe the tagline of "dating up".

    Here's the problem and benefits I'm seeing with group 4.

    They are lost, confused, and overwhelmed. The responses they get seem to terrify, freak them out, and question what the fuck is going on.

    First message from a man " I want to cum on your toes and I will eat it, and will pay $500" actual message I was shown. So many more crazier messages I have seen.

    I always ask why they chose to respond to my message, so I know what works and doesn't.

    So they start to instablock, not pay attention, or quickly close account because of what they see.

    They will google your pics, everyone told me this. Any question about your pics they move on. They mostly use fake pics, blurred out faces, google voice, snap, WA, before giving you their real number. Once they feel comfortable, that you are not one of the men from above, it's complete sharing.

    Psychologically, they are looking for an actual date / BF / evening out with who they are attracted too, that is different from the relationship they just got out of (they are not virgins, and all have been in bad relationships).

    Age range for these women in Group 4 from my experience so far 24-32.

    Number of women for this data subset=7.

    Percent of women who I met and had sex=100%.

    Locations:

    US-Philadelphia, Scottsdale.

    Canada-Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal.

    Europe=Frankfurt Germany.

    So not a statistically large data set with p-values. But, there is a trend.

    If you have got through all the above and peeked their interest here comes the rub, the sex will be unbelievable, most likely no $ excerpt for your dates (we all pay for dinner and drinks-if you split the tab gtfo).

    BUT, then they start to catch feelings. So that is the rub. Be aware. If you are into it, no issue. If you're not, tread carefully.

    This is my opinion and experience from a few of the women I have engaged. Unfortunately, they are super hot and very cool. But, I saw the signs and ignored them because I wanted to keep banging them.

    Just my observations for the team.

  3. #3752

    Anonymous Gift Buying

    I guess I don't by my home girls gifts often but had occasion to recently and figured out how to do without your SO getting wind. It's pretty simple.

    Always using Chrome Incognito mode of course.

    Set up a special Gmail — like mysagirls@gmail.com.

    Set up a special Amazon acct using that gmail.

    Get a visa gift card at your local Kroger.

    Add funds to your Amazon card using the gift card. I had to put "A Gift for You" as the cardholder name. Which is what the card says —because it fails otherwise.

    (This step may not be necessary— maybe direct checkout works).

    Key: Have it shipped to an Amazon locker at your local Whole Foods.

    When the package is delivered you get an email with a bar code. Just scan that at the Whole Foods and the locker pops open.

    Totally anonymous and untraceable I do believe. Worked like a champ for me.

  4. #3751
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    I guess I knew this but was very struck recently kissing Shayla how different it is from kissing a pro even one who provides good DFK. With a Seeking girl (at least the ones I adore who I would not even class semi-pro) like Shayla, Alexa, and Sylvia (of late) it's a completely different passion and "set of moves".

    What I mean by that is it's not just tongue tangling. There is playful licking and lip biting. Tongue sucking both directions. Just no rules. Wherever that animal passion takes you you go there. It's so amazing and such a joint "dance" if you will.

    And because it's real, it's part of the sex. Shayla is definitely more connected mouth to pussy than most girls. But no pro is getting wet from DFK. She's probably even getting out the lube after you eat her pussy. LOL. Cuz there is nothing going on downstairs when u kiss. With a real connection that animal kissing is getting her wet just like it gets you hard. Amazing stuff and one of my favorite parts. And I guess I don't mind the ego boost either knowing that kissing me make Shaylas juice drip down her thighs is def satisfying to the self esteem!
    I agree with you, but have a slightly different explanation. It's not the kissing that gets her wet. It is the anticipation of what is to come. I can tell when a pro is just going through the motions or when there is some genuine passion. Just because a girl sucks harder or faster does not make me come faster. It just gets boring. Same for the girl.

  5. #3750

    Def Benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by FastMdSter  [View Original Post]
    That was pretty funny. I shave my balls etc. I feel it makes clean up and inspection easier. I know the woman always appreciate it.

    I always make them suck my balls, so never any hesitation.

    You can always tell the wife the urologist asked you to trim for the exam, LOL.

    Funny story, I saw a girl shaving a man's balls etc in the shower at the Globe because she said it was too much hair for her to find his cock.
    Yeah 100%. I wrote about this about a year ago. Shaving your balls makes a HUGE difference in how much ball licking and sucking you get. Girls dive right in no questions asked since shaving. And it feels way more intense. Win win win.

  6. #3749

    Pubic Haircuts

    Quote Originally Posted by FastMdSter  [View Original Post]
    Funny story, I saw a girl shaving a man's balls etc in the shower at the Globe because she said it was too much hair for her to find his cock.
    A girl at an FKK told me that she tried to get this Chinese guy to cut his pubes down because there was so much hair she couldn't find his "dong" hahaha!

  7. #3748
    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanPi  [View Original Post]
    Man if I shaved my junk my wife would know I'm up to no good.

    Good thing I'm the one who brings money to the arrangements. I can expect things I don't plan to offer in return. Like shaved private areas.
    That was pretty funny. I shave my balls etc. I feel it makes clean up and inspection easier. I know the woman always appreciate it.

    I always make them suck my balls, so never any hesitation.

    You can always tell the wife the urologist asked you to trim for the exam, LOL.

    Funny story, I saw a girl shaving a man's balls etc in the shower at the Globe because she said it was too much hair for her to find his cock.

  8. #3747
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    Agree. Seems kinda lazy. I haven't seen this with most girls. I did see it with Kayla some and I think it spoke to her being complacent. In the end she preferes to stay in and watch Netflix rather than go out to dinner and club. Eventually killed it off (don't get me wrong I'the still see her but the spark is gone). Think stubble was the first sign of the slippery slope to complacency.

    But hey it goes both ways buddy! I shave my balls now day of the event for Shayla. As discussed way back I use a Venus and it's amazing. And I don't shave the hair between thighs and balls because it gets sticky and more prone to yeast infection. But the Venus rules. Squeaky clean and no nicks ever.

    And Shayla even mentioned my day long stubble feeling agains her tits so I make sure to be clean there too. Nothing too good for my girl. Considering how she treat me in return.
    Man if I shaved my junk my wife would know I'm up to no good.

    Good thing I'm the one who brings money to the arrangements. I can expect things I don't plan to offer in return. Like shaved private areas.

  9. #3746

    Us

    Just beginning to wade into the US waters of SA. Must admit I am still in knee high water. Yet to take a full plunge.

    Initial observations are that. A) Girls are a tad more in front foot here than in Europe. Europe girls were waiting for me to make first move b) These girls are a lot clearer about what they want. Europe has a bit more of "not sure what I am looking for" aka leaving me the privilege of showing her how good it is to enjoy nice dinners and dicking while getting some money as well c) In US, girls seem more transactional. Right away asking "How much will you pay?" Is a mood killer.

    Too early to jump to conclusions. Will keep posted how it evolves.

  10. #3745

    Agree. Goes both Ways.

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanPi  [View Original Post]
    What I really don't like, but see quite a bit of, is stubble. Like a girl shaved 2 weeks ago but not since then.

    I never say anything because why? But I always think "you knew those pants were coming off tonight and you didn't think it worth your time to make your vag presentable?
    Agree. Seems kinda lazy. I haven't seen this with most girls. I did see it with Kayla some and I think it spoke to her being complacent. In the end she preferes to stay in and watch Netflix rather than go out to dinner and club. Eventually killed it off (don't get me wrong I'the still see her but the spark is gone). Think stubble was the first sign of the slippery slope to complacency.

    But hey it goes both ways buddy! I shave my balls now day of the event for Shayla. As discussed way back I use a Venus and it's amazing. And I don't shave the hair between thighs and balls because it gets sticky and more prone to yeast infection. But the Venus rules. Squeaky clean and no nicks ever.

    And Shayla even mentioned my day long stubble feeling agains her tits so I make sure to be clean there too. Nothing too good for my girl. Considering how she treat me in return.

  11. #3744
    Quote Originally Posted by DramaFree11  [View Original Post]
    You would think, but 2 girls I am seeing in CDMX do not shave. Kind of a turn off, but they are both very hot.
    What I really don't like, but see quite a bit of, is stubble. Like a girl shaved 2 weeks ago but not since then.

    I never say anything because why? But I always think "you knew those pants were coming off tonight and you didn't think it worth your time to make your vag presentable?

  12. #3743
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    Def overthinking this! ALL girls in their twenties shave their pussies. I haven't seen a trace of Bush in the last ten years save some well trimmed patches in Asia where Bush is considered desirable. I have see lots of non pro SA girls. All clean shaven. Bush is just "out" except in parts Asia. I'm sure they do it as a matter of course when they shave their legs. Only adds another minute or two.
    Oh got it. I'm definitely showing my age here. When I was in my twenties, you never saw a bare hooch.

  13. #3742
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    Def overthinking this! ALL girls in their twenties shave their pussies. I haven't seen a trace of Bush in the last ten years save some well trimmed patches in Asia where Bush is considered desirable. I have see lots of non pro SA girls. All clean shaven. Bush is just "out" except in parts Asia. I'm sure they do it as a matter of course when they shave their legs. Only adds another minute or two.
    You would think, but 2 girls I am seeing in CDMX do not shave. Kind of a turn off, but they are both very hot.

  14. #3741

    100%

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    I guess I knew this but was very struck recently kissing Shayla how different it is from kissing a pro even one who provides good DFK. With a Seeking girl (at least the ones I adore who I would not even class semi-pro) like Shayla, Alexa, and Sylvia (of late) it's a completely different passion and "set of moves".

    What I mean by that is it's not just tongue tangling. There is playful licking and lip biting. Tongue sucking both directions. Just no rules. Wherever that animal passion takes you you go there. It's so amazing and such a joint "dance" if you will.

    And because it's real, it's part of the sex. Shayla is definitely more connected mouth to pussy than most girls. But no pro is getting wet from DFK. She's probably even getting out the lube after you eat her pussy. LOL. Cuz there is nothing going on downstairs when u kiss. With a real connection that animal kissing is getting her wet just like it gets you hard. Amazing stuff and one of my favorite parts. And I guess I dont mind the ego boost either knowing that kissing me make Shaylas juice drip down her thighs is def satisfying to the self esteem!
    I agree 100%. You can feel the difference and it is BIG.

  15. #3740

    Credit Limit Ladies

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    LOL. Do you think the women see a guy's Amex card, spread their legs, and say "I love you?
    The kind of women I "date" do LOL! Only, I convince many to spread those butt cheeks open too hahahaha!

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