Seeking Arrangements

[Jbob084]

Anyone else noticing a big decrease in quantity and quality nowadays, especially in Europe?

Been doing Europe for the last 2-3 years, and planning a Euro summer soon. Usually cities like Barcelona, Madrid, London, Amsterdam have too much to choose from, spoilt for choice and hard to pick which ones to message / meet. This year I've been seeing much of the same profiles as previous years, all looking like hardened pro's, and very few if any of the 18-27 girl next door / student types. And almost all of these GND types accounts that pop up seem to sign up, and they never log on again, with their profiles last seen date closed to their join date.

Sad state of affairs.

Pivot to online work and influencers etc. Just getting messaged directly on IG by guys to fly them out or what?

I really wonder.

[Akibono]

Hahaha I knew someone would low key flame me (thanks cane!) for being a bit beta in this situation, but I am eyes wide open. I tend to play a more BFGF game than most. And that leads to a bit longer term stuff (known her since I've 2024). And that means we don't always show our best selves. Because we've gotten super comfortable. So I am ok w a girl showing her emotions, as long as it's not lazy. Most girls do get lazy 1. 5 to 2 years in and that's when I end things. But having a tiff is not grounds for dismissal. Getting lazy about sex is.

I've realized also that the girls I really adore and sorta love (only 4 since 2018) were all very alpha. Like a woman who is admired by others and really takes charge a lot. And that's def N. She is everyone's dream girl. To just be around her energy is intoxicating and I am willing to be a little beta to keep it rolling. I know girls don't really want beta so I tread a fine line. But this girl is fire and not just her looks. She slays all that come in contact. So I am going to keep it rolling.

People who complain don't have a good game. A confident man does not have to worry about a woman straying. By being the alpha male, no other guy can compete. If you have to guard your prize, it is a sign of lack of confidence. And girls love guys with confidence. If you show a weak hand, she already trading up.

[KrisMonger]

Has anyone had success with SA in Indonesia? Any advice or info on going rates? I think I have read that someone has posted better off bringing someone from Jakarta to Bali LOL.

One of the best places for SA hunting IMO and yes best to take someone from Jakarta to Bali as you get a better deal and they all like to let loose and party in Bali.

[Chocha Monger]

Now this is the kind of thing that pisses me off about some women. You flew her ass all the way over there and went through some extraordinary effort to get her in. You're wining and dining her and treating her to a lifestyle that she could never afford on her own. And some asshole is going to Bogart in and take your time? You had shown great patience already both then and on other occasions, and perhaps the guy truly miscalculated in his mind and wasn't just intentionally trying to disrespect you, but at some point you had to let him know what's up. And she's going to get mad at you for doing that? No, fuck that! I'm generally speaking not a jealous type of guy about anything, but enough is enough! Especially when you're treating this girl in a way most guys never would, even if they could afford to do it too. No, I'm not flying these "soft core hoors" anywhere, only to have them turn around and disrespect me too. No, homey don't play that! The reason I'm paying them is not only to fuck them, but also so that they leave, to avoid all of the arguments and emotional bullshit LOL! But hey Steve, you do you. You do it well! I'm just out here trying to get my nuts sucked and land a good butt fuck! Hahahaha! Off for my own new Iberian adventure soon.

The Cane standing on business as usual. Threating soft core pros too good often results in disrespect. They start thinking maybe you are soft too. Best policy is getting your nut sack sucked and dropping a couple hot loads in her poot. Then keep it moving. LOL! The long-term GFE tends to have a low ROI for most. The girl knows that you have over invested and feels free to show her ass, and not in the way you love.

[The Cane]

Hahaha I knew someone would low key flame me (thanks cane!) for being a bit beta in this situation, but I am eyes wide open. I tend to play a more BFGF game than most. And that leads to a bit longer term stuff (known her since I've 2024). And that means we don't always show our best selves. Because we've gotten super comfortable. So I am ok w a girl showing her emotions, as long as it's not lazy. Most girls do get lazy 1. 5 to 2 years in and that's when I end things. But having a tiff is not grounds for dismissal. Getting lazy about sex is.

I've realized also that the girls I really adore and sorta love (only 4 since 2018) were all very alpha. Like a woman who is admired by others and really takes charge a lot. And that's def N. She is everyone's dream girl. To just be around her energy is intoxicating and I am willing to be a little beta to keep it rolling. I know girls don't really want beta so I tread a fine line. But this girl is fire and not just her looks. She slays all that come in contact. So I am going to keep it rolling.

It was not intended to be a flame. She should have been showing gratitude at all times for what you were doing for her instead of throwing off attitude. In fact, you shouldn't have had to step in when the guy was in between the two of you, his back to you. She should have said you both were together out of respect for you. Instead she's standing there exchanging Instagrams, and gets ticked off when you finally say the two of you were together. You acted like a gentleman, and I find her behavior to be unacceptable. It's the kind of shit some hot girls will do, acting like you're supposed to be kissing their ass at all times when you're there spending your money on them. This is what I'm talking about. Do your thing!

[Steve 9696]

Hahaha I knew someone would low key flame me (thanks cane!) for being a bit beta in this situation, but I am eyes wide open. I tend to play a more BFGF game than most. And that leads to a bit longer term stuff (known her since I've 2024). And that means we don't always show our best selves. Because we've gotten super comfortable. So I am ok w a girl showing her emotions, as long as it's not lazy. Most girls do get lazy 1. 5 to 2 years in and that's when I end things. But having a tiff is not grounds for dismissal. Getting lazy about sex is.

I've realized also that the girls I really adore and sorta love (only 4 since 2018) were all very alpha. Like a woman who is admired by others and really takes charge a lot. And that's def N. She is everyone's dream girl. To just be around her energy is intoxicating and I am willing to be a little beta to keep it rolling. I know girls don't really want beta so I tread a fine line. But this girl is fire and not just her looks. She slays all that come in contact. So I am going to keep it rolling.

[Akibono]

So not technically all Seeking because I met N in a club in Brazil. But a very seeking-style experience annd a fun read I think. And don't bother hating on calling these girls my GFs. I don't give a rats ass that there is some (small) remuneration to bridge the age gap. I treat these girls like my GF and they do the same in return. It's absolutely the only way to roll.

Although this was a business trip, the primary focus of the trip was on N. N is my Brazilian GF, whom I see whenever I travel there. But she has never been outside Brazil. She got her passport a year ago when I told her I'the like to travel her but we couldn't make it happen. But this time it was on!.

Well played on so many levels. A real pro.

[The Cane]

We had a couple low points too, including one totally deep fucking, fuck-me-in-the-ass chasm! That was on Wednesday night. We arrived late to Barcelona after having spent 3 days in the UK. Easy arrival, as we are traveling together, so no immigration bullshit. We check in, but immediately bounce to Monk, a vibey speakeasy in the happening Born part of Barcelona.

Things start off kinda slow with neither of us having had any drinks. So we are just near the entrance facing each other but perhaps 2 feet between and lightly chatting and soaking it up. It's all an under 30 crowd, which it always is! There is one guy perhaps 5-7 feet away who is sizing N up. Literally eye fucking her from head to toe, clearly interested but with a few other guys. I don't worry too much about it.

But then maybe 20 minutes later, he slips in between us -- and not in a "hey how are you guys" but in a move where he clearly doesn't think we are together or doesn't care, as his back is 70% facing me. They start chatting, and you know N, she is so friendly and doesn't even think about whether a guy is hitting on her or not, so they are exchanging Instagram and such. No harm. But then he's really leaning in and its getting very cozy. I probably should have let it go but instead, I tap him on the shoulder and say "hey, you know she's my girlfriend right?" And he immediately backs off -- says hey I didn't know..

Now this is the kind of thing that pisses me off about some women. You flew her ass all the way over there and went through some extraordinary effort to get her in. You're wining and dining her and treating her to a lifestyle that she could never afford on her own. And some asshole is going to Bogart in and take your time? You had shown great patience already both then and on other occasions, and perhaps the guy truly miscalculated in his mind and wasn't just intentionally trying to disrespect you, but at some point you had to let him know what's up. And she's going to get mad at you for doing that? No, fuck that! I'm generally speaking not a jealous type of guy about anything, but enough is enough! Especially when you're treating this girl in a way most guys never would, even if they could afford to do it too. No, I'm not flying these "soft core hoors" anywhere, only to have them turn around and disrespect me too. No, homey don't play that! The reason I'm paying them is not only to fuck them, but also so that they leave, to avoid all of the arguments and emotional bullshit LOL! But hey Steve, you do you. You do it well! I'm just out here trying to get my nuts sucked and land a good butt fuck! Hahahaha! Off for my own new Iberian adventure soon.

[Steve 9696]

So not technically all Seeking because I met N in a club in Brazil. But a very seeking-style experience annd a fun read I think. And don't bother hating on calling these girls my GFs. I don't give a rats ass that there is some (small) remuneration to bridge the age gap. I treat these girls like my GF and they do the same in return. It's absolutely the only way to roll.

Although this was a business trip, the primary focus of the trip was on N. N is my Brazilian GF, whom I see whenever I travel there. But she has never been outside Brazil. She got her passport a year ago when I told her I'the like to travel her but we couldn't make it happen. But this time it was on!

Her mother pretty much begged her not to go. She thought I could be trafficking her!! But N and I have spent enough time together that she trusts me and so we made it happen.

Because I know that a beautiful girl traveling alone from Brazil to London is going to get flagged at immigration, I had her fully prepared with proof of return trip, hotel reservations in her name and so on. I'the told her she needs to be able to prove enough money for her stay as well. (I didn't tell her I've done this 3 times before! Hahaha).

Despite this, holy shit the drama. I am waiting for her at the airport just outside arrivals. And she's sent me a pin so I can see she's made it to immigration or baggage claim. But then the pin says it hasn't been updated in 10 minutes. Then 20. Then 40. Holy fuck what is going on? Zero pin movement. Zero communication. Yikes!

Suddenly after being incommunicado for almost an hour I get panicked texts "baby they say I don't have enough money. Send me money. Now. Urgent!" I know this isn't a scam because her map pin is literally about 100 feet away from me, on the other side of the wall!

Total panic. But I send her a few hundred bucks. Wise (international money transfer app) is fucking amazing and it goes through in seconds. Silence for a bit more, but then she says she's thru and coming out. What a mind fuck that was! Can you imagine if she had to get back on the plane and fly home? Fuuuuck!

Reunited, we are like a house on fire. Kisses and hugs and damn I adore that girl. We catch the Heathrow express and a cab and get to the hotel maybe 5 pm or so. Can't recall the exact order of things but we nap and fuck and have dinner at Chicettis which I just love. She is over the moon to be in London and at such a vibey restaurant. She is all smiles and girlish energy 24/7, following her emergence from the Nazis at immigration.

I don't think I'll do a day by day account here. Too many days. I'll just summarize and hit the high points. Def high point of first night, and possibly the week, is the club Heaven, by far the best gay club in London. The big dance floor is shuttered on Sunday's and it starts out super slow at 10 PM but we make one good friend who spends most of the night with us.

By the time it hits 12 it's a full on party. Everyone is dancing and having fun. We've prob made 5-7 new friends, including a small group of Brazilian guys! N and I dance a lot and she dances a ton with other guys or girls. I learned with Thifany back in 2018 to not try to cage a free spirit, so I play the role of videographer half the night. But I really don't mind. I love seeing her having fun.

Funniest part of the night is that there is this guy who may like guys, but it's soooo clear he's into N. He's not being aggressive or pushy but just the way he is with her. At one point they are dancing and I am kinda third-wheel-dancing nearby. And he leans over to her and says "where are you staying?" To me a clearly leading question. And she turns to me and says "babe where are we staying?" His face fell like a rock. LOL. Yeah, you can dance with her, but she's going home with me!

We had a couple low points too, including one totally deep fucking, fuck-me-in-the-ass chasm! That was on Wednesday night. We arrived late to Barcelona after having spent 3 days in the UK. Easy arrival, as we are traveling together, so no immigration bullshit. We check in, but immediately bounce to Monk, a vibey speakeasy in the happening Born part of Barecelona.

Things start off kinda slow with neither of us having had any drinks. So we are just near the entrance facing each other but perhaps 2 feet between and lightly chatting and soaking it up. It's all an under 30 crowd, which it always is! There is one guy perhaps 5-7 feet away who is sizing N up. Literally eye fucking her from head to toe, clearly interested but with a few other guys. I don't worry too much about it.

But then maybe 20 minutes later, he slips in between us -- and not in a "hey how are you guys" but in a move where he clearly doesn't think we are together or doesn't care, as his back is 70% facing me. They start chatting, and you know N, she is so friendly and doesn't even think about whether a guy is hitting on her or not, so they are exchanging Instagram and such. No harm. But then he's really leaning in and its getting very cozy. I probably should have let it go but instead, I tap him on the shoulder and say "hey, you know she's my girlfriend right?" And he immediately backs off -- says hey I didn't know.

I know N likes to be friendly so I say no harm no foul and shake his hand and say "hey you can be friends with both of us" but he says no thanks and excuses himself and leaves. Seems all pretty harmless, but Noooooooo. N is pissed. She says she wants to leave. I am pretty taken aback, but I can tell she's mad and don't want to make it worse. So we leave and take a cold-shoulder taxi ride home.

Back in the room, I get to see the true Latina temper that there are all sorts of memes about. She bitches me out in Brazilian Portuguese so fast and loud I have no idea what she is saying, except that she wants to go home tomorrow! Wow. I am totally taken aback.

Long story short, I react quite emotionally (sad, not mad) and by the time morning rolls around she's rethought things and apologized. In the debrief, she says her former boyfriend was super controlling and would beat her if she as much as smiled at another guy. She was so glad to be free of this control. And she was triggered by my actions-- but after calmer head, knows I am not that guy and trusts me. But I also committed to being more careful in not trying to intervene in her "friendships". I didn't tell her the guy was eyeing her like a piece of meat, because I don't think it would have helped anything. Anyhow. This was a true shithole in an otherwise perfect week together. So glad we worked through it.

Another really fun night was when we met up with her friend and her friends on Friday night. A friend she knows from Scandallo flew in to see a guy and had just landed and we went out with her, her boyfriend, and another male friend. One of the guys spoke great English which was nice, but I managed my Porto with the others. Let me tell you, the locals know where to go! They took us to a bar called Bar Sauvage that was PACKED. We danced in the basement as best we could with packed bodies. She mostly danced with her friend (a girl) and I kinda danced with. It wasn't ideal, but again, I am happy to be around her being happy and really don't want to harsh her mellow.

We bounced to Club Sauvage as things got late and they had a dope DJ in the basement. Here it was much more a group dancing vibe and less crowded so it was a ton of fun. We'd go out for a smoke break and smoke weed right there in the square, despite it being theoretically illegal. Again, the value of having local friends. Packed it in at 4. 30 AM. Wow. Great night. Got to say I wasn't disappointed when N said her friends loved me so much and really wanted us to go out again. (And I wasn't playing the rich gringo role buying drinks all around. In fact they bought a round or two for me and provided all the weed!

Other highlights included fucking N of course. And some VERY sexy dancing she let me video before getting down to business. In fact, this became our standard foreplay. She dances super sexy, maybe in lingerie, but then losing that and dancing and twerking right in my face -- naked pussy. Wow. What a great way to kick off sex!

I think my favorite pre-sex memory, aside from the videos, was when I was lying on the bed before dinner one afternoon and she just got out of the shower. She comes to the side of the bed in a towel and plants the deepest, sexiest french kiss on me and says "Quero? As in "Do you want?" Of course the answer is YES and it's on, but the way she initiated was priceless. Fucking with N is great. She is very into it, but attentive to my needs. Her BJ is super on point, including deep throat and CIM if I like.

When the trip finally came to an end 7 days later, I took her to the airport and made sure she got off safely. God, we really adore each other. As we are at our last little snack in the airport, over Totilla Espanol, we are gazing into each other's eyes and chatting and we both start tearing up big time. Same when I see her to the security gate. We are both on the verge of tears and perhaps shed a few. It's very hard coming down from a high like this. Other than the mid-week meltdown, it was magical and the fact that we can spend 24/7 together for 7 days speaks volumes. Never done that with another girl.

Of course I am not one to let the iron cool. I drop N at 11 and scoot back to the hotel to meet A two hours later, at 1 PM! Hahahah. I made sure the hotel made up the room so it wasn't like I'd been whoring all week! I really dig A too but in a totally different way. She's more cute GND than sexy (Vietnamese, a little heavy) and intellectual. She has a masters in marketing and leads social and tradeshow for a blockchain company. She has this rocker / goth vibe though and you would have no idea she's a successful career professional. And she's a wildcat in bed. I don't think she get's around a lot and so she's 100% ready to fuck like her life depends on it. When I do DATY she's a squirming, sloppy, beast and she loves to fuck me. She gives great head and both her and N are bareback of course, so I let go a glorious CIP inside her.

One time I wrote down what I like in a girl and it's "bubby, chatty, and affectionate -- and loves to kiss" A is all that (as is N). So we just fall back into it. We are only together for 24 hours, but we manage to fuck twice that first day and get in a bunch of drinking and shopping and generally having a great time. Still adore that girl (met her via Seeking in Jan 2025 and spent about 7-8 days with her during two trips in 2025). Seeing her off isn't as hard, since we were only together for such a short time, but I'd def see her again.

After this I went to Madrid and did clubs there. See that thread for the report out.

[Elvis 2008]

I hear you, mate. Everyone's personal experiences shape their perspective. Since 2023, I travel to SE Asia 4 times a year and spend 30 days each time. I have in no way encountered a hint of feminism. 99% of the time, the lady I am chilling with is cleaning my airbnb / hotel room, cooking for me, giving me unprompted massages, clipping my toenails and such. I actually experience the opposite of feminism. As long as I take care of the finances and lead, SE Asia ladies take care of everything else.

I found many of the women in Colombia and Mexico to be much the same though Mexico is getting more Westernized. In fact, once I had a Mexican maid. Man, she was a fucking machine. I never had a maid work as hard as her. Even when she finished eight hours of work, she went to the gym. She then showed me this pic of a hottie and told me that photo was of her. She was actually a dancer at the club Coco Boingo in Mexico. She worked for the wife of a friend and the wife said that the maid made "all of us (American women) look bad. " Thing is my friend busted his ass and is now worth eight figures, and instead of being appreciative, she is so ungrateful all she does is complain about him, and this is very typical of so many Western women. Given the salaries Western men make and the effort so many 3rd world women put into being quality companions, the union of these two groups is inevitable and sure enough, every one of the sons of my friends has a Latin or Asian GF, fiancée, or wife. They seem to be completely uninterested in white and now even black women and their sky high demands.

Having attractive 20-somethings actively trying to extract your semen on a daily basis is strange but also very welcome! To put it simply, I go abroad because I can easily get GFE from an attractive SE Asian woman that is aiming to please and be a steady presence in my life. Even from casual encounters, these same ladies are texting / calling everyday just to check on me and see if I want them to come over. I once got sick and had to stay in my hotel for a couple of days, I had different casual ladies bringing me food and checking on me. These ladies didn't know me from Adam. We had a couple of "dates" and were not exclusive, they were just checking on their client. So yea, in the west, I have never experienced any of this unless it was in a committed relationship.

Quality of Life and Value. Yes, I can see QoL not being the same as a western modern city in every single way. There will be some tradeoffs in some QoL areas. I concede that point, however, those tradeoffs are worth it if you value different QoL elements. For the places that I travel to, QoL for the elements that I care most about is enhanced. So for me, I get enhanced QoL for 50% of the cost. It is really an easy choice for someone in my situation.

This is very well put. For me, I spend a week of every month in Colombia and there is a weight off my chest when I leave and can be around authentic and real relationships. Race, sex, and politics have so dominated American society now it is ridiculous. And then I long for my creature comforts and QOL and return to the USA.

And really the final blow for me. You don't need an explicit Seeking Arrangement discussion or negotiation. It is simply organic in the culture of relationships in SE Asia. As soon as I initiate any conversation, the lady knows from the beginning I want to sleep with her and if it is good, possiby multiple times. I know if it is good and I want repeat services, I will compensate her PPM or on retainer. I can get $100 USD PPM that can easily transition to a well kept exclusive girlfriend for $800 USD / mo (no more PPM as many visits as I want). These are rough lived experience numbers. Pricing can go lower or way higher depending on the lady and her current earning potential.

Yeah, I am not so sure if it is the same in Mexico but it is in Colombia. I did not get how open the women were to SB relationships. I used seeking, but I have since learned I did not have to. Even though I am older than when I played before, my confidence is much higher. If you are a decent guy with a few $, I KNOW you can get a good looking woman who treats you right.

[Elvis 2008]

At Elvis- with all due respect this is coming from someone younger and probably less experienced than you but I think you will agree to this statement. Don't take women seriously.

I think you mean this statement with regards to female hypocrisy. I had a SB tell me that if her BF cheated on her, she would cut his dick off, and she was startled when I laughed. She asked what was so funny, and I told her we just had sex. IOW, if you are really so outraged about cheating, why are you fucking me? And I was married at the time.

That is not what concerned me with feminism on this topic. For me, feminism is women wanting more while giving less. In some ways, it is women having fewer children so they do not have to compete with younger women. In the USA, I did not have a problem finding beautiful women who were good in bed for a reasonable price. Thing people do not get about real sugar babies versus hookers is that the women are picking out the same qualities in a SD that they would for a husband. When I first started doing the SD thing, I could not believe these women were really interested in me, but a few let me know that being more serious and marriage were on the table.

Thing is that is when I started looking at their character and asking what they bring to the table. There was very little compared to what I was bringing. I was already getting sex and companionship. What more was I going to get? The average American SB back rub I got was 10 minutes if she even did a massage. The first time I was in South America was in Argentina in 2004, and the woman was a stripper I took out of the club. She massaged ever inch of my body for 2 hours, and I paid her $100 for the whole night, and she was a stunner and great in bed. And the SB market was even a huge step up from that. That is what I mean by the difference in culture. The countries where feminism rules breeds women to be more and more entitled and makes it less fertile ground for finding a good SB. That modern feminism is bullshit and hurts both sexes is IMO settled. Women with Western values are much less likely to be happy because they feel so entitled.

If you are younger, you may not have known that the hype on Japan ruling the world in the 1980's was as loud as the hype on China today, but it was not just economic. The narrative being pushed were Asian women were these docile, humble, loyal, hard working, sacrificing women compared to their Western counterparts. If you are interested in seeing why that was, check out the original Shogun mini series done in the 1980's. It is very entertaining and was a huge hit. The loyal and self sacrificing Asian woman seen in the entertainment world back then was almost always dressed in Japanese clothing. That kind of woman appears to be dead and gone in the wealthier Asian nations.

I am happy that Swashbuckler has found women with those qualities. I really am. I found the same in Colombia, and I know now that you give up some quality of life issues when you stay in 3rd world countries, and he agreed. The last time I was in Colombia the AC unit was not working and I was miserable. When in the USA, that is something that I can get fixed in a day or so. In Colombia, they say they will repair the AC in a week and that usually means 2 weeks. So while the women in 3rd world nations can be much better, there are some trade offs.

[Steve 9696]

I once had it explained as below and it was like an epiphany. Soooo spot on. Explains everything.

Men make decisions based on facts. Facts don't change. Women make decisions based on emotions, which fluctuate and change, often daily.

So men look at women as behaving irrationally because facts don't change but their decisions do. It's not that they are irrational. It's just that they use a different decision scale daily or hourly. And we can't fathom that!

[VanessasClient]

At Elvis- with all due respect this is coming from someone younger and probably less experienced than you but I think you will agree to this statement. Don't take women seriously.

This goes to their political ideologies to travel ambitions to the type of guy they want or even their entire belief system. Whenever a woman says something I just add "I think" to the start and "right now" to the end. Women are silly women are cute, it's great fucking a feminist and making her worship cock albeit for a little while before she gets starved for dick again and goes off men everything women do is just a phase and they can be snapped out of it. All the height and money requirements go out of the window when they get horny and have sex with an average joe from the bar.

At steve- I respect the game, I rotate between organic seduction and p4 p. I tried to dip my toes in sugaring in warsaw last month a decent looking girl (at least in photos) was down for 500 Euros but I was getting normal sex from mids 5-6 (one 7) and decent p4 p options were there for 100 Euros (quantity is a quality of it's own LOL), so didn't indulge. From my RTFF I have come to the conclusion anything more than 30% of 1 room city center rent for European cities is excessive for warsaw effectively 300-350 Euros or so.

Compared to men, I cannot tell you how many times I have seen women change their minds in a split second. Also, they tend to keep their commitments far less often. Furthermore, they never seem to face any repercussions for engaging in this fickle behavior.

[MrBuckley]

Has anyone had success with SA in Indonesia? Any advice or info on going rates? I think I have read that someone has posted better off bringing someone from Jakarta to Bali LOL.

[Gsi2810]

At Elvis- with all due respect this is coming from someone younger and probably less experienced than you but I think you will agree to this statement. Don't take women seriously.

This goes to their political ideologies to travel ambitions to the type of guy they want or even their entire belief system. Whenever a woman says something I just add "I think" to the start and "right now" to the end. Women are silly women are cute, it's great fucking a feminist and making her worship cock albeit for a little while before she gets starved for dick again and goes off men everything women do is just a phase and they can be snapped out of it. All the height and money requirements go out of the window when they get horny and have sex with an average joe from the bar.

At steve- I respect the game, I rotate between organic seduction and p4 p. I tried to dip my toes in sugaring in warsaw last month a decent looking girl (at least in photos) was down for 500 Euros but I was getting normal sex from mids 5-6 (one 7) and decent p4 p options were there for 100 Euros (quantity is a quality of it's own LOL), so didn't indulge. From my RTFF I have come to the conclusion anything more than 30% of 1 room city center rent for European cities is excessive for warsaw effectively 300-350 Euros or so.