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  1. #761
    That is a huge point. It could be worthwhile to grab one just for the no fee change. It's been a lot of years since you could change for free w9thput buying business class or better.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    I agree, but there is one thing to point out. Today is the last day to buy a ticket from American Airlines where there are no change fees.

  2. #760

    ??

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge  [View Original Post]
    I Those are the facts..
    Check all your "facts" elsewhere.

  3. #759
    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge  [View Original Post]
    I agree there is little to no risk in waiting to book travel.
    I agree, but there is one thing to point out. Today is the last day to buy a ticket from American Airlines where there are no change fees.

  4. #758
    Quote Originally Posted by YippieKayay  [View Original Post]
    I understand, just keep in mind the raw numbers KEEP GOING UP in Colombia not down. It's still hasn't peaked over there. It took China 3 months to peak and subside with draconian measures.

    Does anyone have anymore info on the September 1 date other than a vague tweet from the ministry of transportation? Despite what some posters think I'd love to go back but EVERYTHING I'm told by my contacts there (on the coast) is that its bad.
    I think this source is pretty legit, the official date is 9/1. https://www.dinero.com/pais/articulo...tiembre/287173.

  5. #757
    It is very bad on the Pacific coast and in Cartagena, Bogota, and Cali. Amazonas is also enduring bleed over from Brazil. You asked for more specifics about September 1. The night of that announcement during the President's daily briefing (it was not announced in a tweet), while seated at the table with his ministers President Duque announced that local authorities (mayors and governors) have the authority to restrict or loosen rules in their territories within the national rules. This means although international travel will be authorized it could remain restricted from certain airports. I intercity travel has been restricted since March. Local authorities can lift or impose that restriction as well. We saw Bogota Mayor Claudia Lopez do it this Friday in response to increasing infections in barrios in south Bogota. Those are the facts. I will stand by for interpretations, prognostications and guesstimates.

    Quote Originally Posted by YippieKayay  [View Original Post]
    I understand, just keep in mind the raw numbers KEEP GOING UP in Colombia not down. It's still hasn't peaked over there. It took China 3 months to peak and subside with draconian measures.

    Does anyone have anymore info on the September 1 date other than a vague tweet from the ministry of transportation? Despite what some posters think I'd love to go back but EVERYTHING I'm told by my contacts there (on the coast) is that its bad.

  6. #756
    Quote Originally Posted by SJobs  [View Original Post]
    Please don't turn this thread back into graphs, numbers, and depressing speculations. The current official date of opening is September 1st. This is something we can look forward to.
    I understand, just keep in mind the raw numbers KEEP GOING UP in Colombia not down. It's still hasn't peaked over there. It took China 3 months to peak and subside with draconian measures.

    Does anyone have anymore info on the September 1 date other than a vague tweet from the ministry of transportation? Despite what some posters think I'd love to go back but EVERYTHING I'm told by my contacts there (on the coast) is that its bad.

  7. #755

    Bobbing and Weaving

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge  [View Original Post]
    It's disappointing but understandable that long term sex deprivation can lead to gratuitous personal attacks laced with foul language. That doesn't change the fact that none us have done anything to deserve it. I suppose it might bother me if I did not have other ways to spend my free time.
    Some people love the sound of their own voice, and this translates into internet activity. That's okay until the BS effects us as a community by way of bad advice. Then it's it's okay to speak up, here in the ISG and WSG of old.

  8. #754
    It's disappointing but understandable that long term sex deprivation can lead to gratuitous personal attacks laced with foul language. That doesn't change the fact that none us have done anything to deserve it. I suppose it might bother me if I did not have other ways to spend my free time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    Your correct about whom was spending the 50 K a year, I was in error, however what I find troublesome with your remarks is about how you lambast other posters as to how they roll. However that is just my opinion, of which everyone is entitled to.

  9. #753

    Big Shot Waiting To Return

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge  [View Original Post]
    The European Union also required airlines that operate in its territory to provide full refunds when they cancel flights due to Coronavirus restrictions. I agree there is little to no risk in waiting to book travel. I doubt there will be a shortage of availability, even though published schedules show far fewer flights than pre-coronavirus. Fewer flights mean higher fares.
    What may actually occur when things open up are that there may be some lower prices, or price wars for passengers, especially from those who have declared Chapter 11 and are back in business such as AVIANCA / LATAM if they are still around and who knows whom else.

    I'm just going to wait it out, I have a credit / voucher for a one way ticket business class with AVIANCA because I am a "big shot" as has been declared on this thread, and I really am, that's assuming of course that they actually resume flying again after re-organizing or downsizing, or whatever happens.

  10. #752
    The European Union also required airlines that operate in its territory to provide full refunds when they cancel flights due to Coronavirus restrictions. I agree there is little to no risk in waiting to book travel. I doubt there will be a shortage of availability, even though published schedules show far fewer flights than pre-coronavirus. Fewer flights mean higher fares.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeos1  [View Original Post]
    Dreaming about, yes. As far as looking forward to. Not quite.

    Certainly not putting out any money booking tickets, etc. That's where it gets real. I don't want to book and then have to try to collect my refund, future flight credit. Whatever. Now I know in US apparently if they cancel they have to refund you. But not so where I am. And basically airlines can't afford to do the full refund route. So I'm not giving them any of my money to sit on for some possible unknown future flight. I already have my frequent flyer points doing that. Not sure if I'll ever be able to cash those in.

  11. #751
    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie97  [View Original Post]
    No one was talking about you, as the world doesn't revolve around you, nor does it give a fuck about you. Stunning facts of life huh? Sobering as well. The issue was AA "Concierge Key" 50 K a year in tickets plus business class upgrades (woo woo) claimed by another poster (not you), but he's bobbing and weaving in the developing world around cops scooping low end street walkers. Add to that the fact that he says to just file a CC chargeback in lieu of any effort to first call the airline, and that well establishes that he's royally full if shit. One thing you'll notice if you hang around enough mongers is that many just love to lie. That's up to them, but when such translate into advice on the internet worth correcting. That said, who needs to brush up on their reading comprehension?
    Your correct about whom was spending the 50 K a year, I was in error, however what I find troublesome with your remarks is about how you lambast other posters as to how they roll. However that is just my opinion, of which everyone is entitled to.

  12. #750
    Quote Originally Posted by SJobs  [View Original Post]
    Please don't turn this thread back into graphs, numbers, and depressing speculations. The current official date of opening is September 1st. This is something we can look forward to.
    Dreaming about, yes. As far as looking forward to. Not quite.

    Certainly not putting out any money booking tickets, etc. That's where it gets real. I don't want to book and then have to try to collect my refund, future flight credit. Whatever. Now I know in US apparently if they cancel they have to refund you. But not so where I am. And basically airlines can't afford to do the full refund route. So I'm not giving them any of my money to sit on for some possible unknown future flight. I already have my frequent flyer points doing that. Not sure if I'll ever be able to cash those in.

  13. #749
    There are more than a few "no one will be able to enter Colombia before 2021" predictions. I get the feeling there are guys who regret not being able to be here or deciding to not be here when they could have and now somehow find comfort in promoting scenarios that would prolong the quarantine and closed border. I don't quite understand it. At any rate the quarantine is effectively over here. The President is getting flak from the Mayor of Bogota who blames his order to reopen the economy for spikes in infections in several Bogota barrios. This is the same Mayor who was caught violating quarantine rules last month.

    Quote Originally Posted by SJobs  [View Original Post]
    Please don't turn this thread back into graphs, numbers, and depressing speculations. The current official date of opening is September 1st. This is something we can look forward to.

  14. #748

    Ok

    No one was talking about you, as the world doesn't revolve around you, nor does it give a fuck about you. Stunning facts of life huh? Sobering as well. The issue was AA "Concierge Key" 50 K a year in tickets plus business class upgrades (woo woo) claimed by another poster (not you), but he's bobbing and weaving in the developing world around cops scooping low end street walkers. Add to that the fact that he says to just file a CC chargeback in lieu of any effort to first call the airline, and that well establishes that he's royally full if shit. One thing you'll notice if you hang around enough mongers is that many just love to lie. That's up to them, but when such translate into advice on the internet worth correcting. That said, who needs to brush up on their reading comprehension?

    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    I suggest you read my post a little closer, you got your math off in that my reference to flying was based on 4 years, not one year. So how you came up with me spending 50 K a year on tickets is not correct. More like 12 K a year on tickets would be more accurate, and I guess that will still qualify me as a big shot, and it's nice travelling in luxury, very nice, and with lots of perks!

    But on the other hand I go with Chica's costing $ 10-20 USD a pop, so in this instance I don't think I qualify anymore as big shot.

    It's perhaps a "paradox", imagining a guy spending more on airline tickets than hookers in a year, and that was what my original post was about.

  15. #747
    Quote Originally Posted by YippieKayay  [View Original Post]
    I understand your skepticism but please look at their graph for new confirmed cases:

    https://www.worldometers.info/corona...ntry/colombia/

    The source is directly from the Ministry of Health. If you compare their graph to other countries it looks like Colombia is just starting to peak. Assuming its another 3 months of lockdown for the peak to end that puts us in September which is the start of the fall or the second wave. Every pandemic in recorded human history has had a second wave. Every single one.
    Please don't turn this thread back into graphs, numbers, and depressing speculations. The current official date of opening is September 1st. This is something we can look forward to.

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