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  1. #1072
    Quote Originally Posted by HammerTime96  [View Original Post]
    It's easy to pretend you're an "expert" on an anonymous hooker forum, LOL!

    Again, how do you imagine the future of P6 in general and in particular for FKK clubs in
    Germany.

    I'l ask you directly: do you want the end of freedom and the end of the FKK clubs?
    I know he doesn't need my help but I will speak to a couple of your points. First, I met Mursenary in person about the same time my father fell ill. He told me that my father would die from respiratory complications brought on by his illness. Almost two years later my father died exactly how I was advised it would happen. I tend to believe he has a bit of education in the medical field. For sure more than the average COVID experts on this thread.

    Concerning P6 in Germany and FKKs, it will survive. The current sharp ideas will dull with time. 6 Sens is full of ladies who live in Germany and travel across the border and men who live in Germany and travel. Escort business is currently on a high. All the paranoia about being tracked doesn't matter when a nice lady is waiting to suck your dick. People will find ways. What information did you have to give to join this site. Given legal authorization I could trach the source IP address you are posting from, From that I could identify your service provider, crack an ARP table and see your device name. From that I could track other sites you visit, etc, etc. This site doesn't make you anonymous and the countries could easily employ facial recognition on the traffic cams near the clubs to track you if they wanted. So, P6 and FKK in Germany will survive above or below the legal line.

    Me personally, I showed my ID at two or three clubs annually to get my free birthday entry, and the bar staff even played happy birthday for me at midnight 01 on my birthday. I don't know about Mursenary but I enjoyed the hell out of that night.

  2. #1071
    Quote Originally Posted by HammerTime96  [View Original Post]
    Here's an interesting video of a nurse who describes the chaos in a New York City hospital, how they were financially pressured to intubate as many patients (poor blacks and latinos) as possible and how other treatment methods (HCQ) are sabotaged and torpedoed by hospital management: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIDsKdeFOmQ.

    But you'll probably call this "fake news" when something doesn't suit your agenda or narrative.
    Do you also believe in flat earth, anti vax, and fake moon landings?

  3. #1070
    Quote Originally Posted by Mursenary  [View Original Post]
    So disrespectful. It amazes me how people who know so little about a subject matter speak like they know so much.

    What you're proposing would suggest that the world is out to get a certain political affiliation by not using HCQ and "wrongly" intubating patients. Guess what? American politics do not dictate medical standards of care throughout the entire world! No one during a pandemic gives a shit about your president and his ignorant base wishing into thin air that a medicine works. Dozens of published post intervention studies have repeated shown that HCQ didn't do jack diddly squat but you crazies keep breathing it back to life, wasting everyone's energy.

    The arrogance in the Trump base who thinks the world revolves around their reality. HCQ is not used not because of political reasons or else it would have been a part of standards of care elsewhere in the world. People in Singapore, New Zealand, Taiwan, Switzerland, etc don't give a damn about American political micro-drama. Get over yourselves.

    In conclusion, it don't work, we've tried.
    Here's an interesting video of a nurse who describes the chaos in a New York City hospital, how they were financially pressured to intubate as many patients (poor blacks and latinos) as possible and how other treatment methods (HCQ) are sabotaged and torpedoed by hospital management: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIDsKdeFOmQ.

    But you'll probably call this "fake news" when something doesn't suit your agenda or narrative.

    Back to what this site apparently is all about: P6! So what's your agenda or outlook regarding P6? Please also answer that question, instead of the usual emotional (and political) attacks, claiming "expertise" without any proof. It's easy to pretend you're an "expert" on an anonymous hooker forum, LOL!

    Again, how do you imagine the future of P6 in general and in particular for FKK clubs in Germany, when people are tracked by compulsory government apps and are tracked if they have the latest version of the required "vaccine" because corona viruses will keep on mutating?

    As I said before, perhaps a handful of desperate idiotic tourists will not mind to surrender their complete privacy, but the large majority of locals (which keeps FKK clubs operating) WILL mind and probably won't visit anymore. I doubt that a handful of foreign tourist mongers can keep a club the size of Sharks financially afloat, let alone financially sustain the hundreds of women who work in those clubs.

    I'l ask you directly: do you want the end of freedom and the end of the FKK clubs?

  4. #1069
    Quote Originally Posted by RockyV  [View Original Post]
    I hope you are being sarcastic as opposed to not understanding this metaphor.
    Some metaphors just have obvious holes in them that can easily be framed in reverse. This is one such.

    Pointing it out is always funny.

  5. #1068
    Maybe you should look more closely. That's only in some cities, especially in very crowded streets or places.

  6. #1067
    Maybe you should look more closely. That's only in certain cities, especially in very crowded streets or places.

  7. #1066
    Quote Originally Posted by HammerTime96  [View Original Post]
    Yes, "busting our ass" with the wrong treatments like placing people on ventilators (because in the US hospitals make big insurance bucks when patients end up on a ventilator), whilst actively preventing and even denying a very cheap and successful treatments like Hydroxycloroquine (in combination with Zinc, Vitamin C and Vitamine D) because of "Democrat versus Republicans" politics.
    So disrespectful. It amazes me how people who know so little about a subject matter speak like they know so much.

    What you're proposing would suggest that the world is out to get a certain political affiliation by not using HCQ and "wrongly" intubating patients. Guess what? American politics do not dictate medical standards of care throughout the entire world! No one during a pandemic gives a shit about your president and his ignorant base wishing into thin air that a medicine works. Dozens of published post intervention studies have repeated shown that HCQ didn't do jack diddly squat but you crazies keep breathing it back to life, wasting everyone's energy.

    The arrogance in the Trump base who thinks the world revolves around their reality. HCQ is not used not because of political reasons or else it would have been a part of standards of care elsewhere in the world. People in Singapore, New Zealand, Taiwan, Switzerland, etc don't give a damn about American political micro-drama. Get over yourselves.

    In conclusion, it don't work, we've tried.

  8. #1065
    Quote Originally Posted by HammerTime96  [View Original Post]
    Interesting point! Is it a coincidence that CV19 wreaked havoc in Southern Europe, with bad-irresponsible governments, huge corruption, huge debts, and an incompetent health authorities?
    Sounds like you are talking about the UK, in that case, yes I agree!

    I saw on the news that in France, wearing a face mask outside (in the fresh air!) is now mandatory, just like Spain! Masks outside! Hahahaha! It shows again what kind of irrational-emotional nutcases are in charge in those countries.

    https://www.connexionfrance.com/Fren...ille-Nord-Nice

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53346750

    Quote Originally Posted by HammerTime96  [View Original Post]
    Yes, "busting our ass" with the wrong treatments like placing people on ventilators (because in the US hospitals make big insurance bucks when patients end up on a ventilator), whilst actively preventing and even denying a very cheap and successful treatments like Hydroxycloroquine (in combination with Zinc, Vitamin C and Vitamine D) because of "Democrat versus Republicans" politics.

    As always, there is no money or power in a quick and effective cure, but the real money and power is made in prolonging the problem as long as possible! This is what the politicians do (again, look at bankrupt countries in Souther Europe) and this is also what the medical establishment does.

    So if I understand you correctly, you want an end to P6? This is what will happen when you introduce a "vaccine" for a constantly mutating Corona virus, because a constantly mutating virus will require a constantly changing "vaccine" (just imagine the billions for the pharmaceutical industry!) and this will require a constant totalitarian Big Brother surveillance state with CV19 tracking apps on every phone..
    I feel sorry for you, mate, for being so angry at the world that you are prepared to give credit to the first facebook post that pops up in your page instead of listening to the experts, who have improved our lives massively over the last century. I don't even try to start replying to the massive disinformation you have cited in your post, because I feel your mind has been made up and There is nothing I can show you that can make an impact. You have been conned in believing that BS by people who think Trump has more medical knowledge than the Chief of the National Institute of Health: "Compassion for the conned, contempt for the conmen"!

  9. #1064
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    I suppose you are right. Columbus did in fact find the vaccine to an overpopulated Europe when he took the chance of crossing the Atlantic to settle in the New World. And I suppose it is a good thing how they infected and killed off 90% of the native populace with typhus, cholera, small pox, influenza, malaria, bubonic plague, scarlet fever, leishmania, filaria, septisemic plague, dengue fever, schistosomiasis, tetanus, anthrax, botulism, toxoplasmosis, legionella, syphilis, tape worms, fungal diseases and African sleeping sickness etc etc etc.
    I hope you are being sarcastic as opposed to not understanding this metaphor.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    When it comes to crispr I am actually more optimistic. But that has nothing to do with medical practices. It has 100% everything to do with computer science and how gene mapping and individual treatments can be managed on a one to one basis instead of mass production methods, and total chaos with absolutely no control. The cut and paste mechanism can also be improved by using more developed proteins than cas9.
    Yes, it is promising but we are at the very beginning in understanding the real potential. Using this technology in humans is still not recommended and the Chinese researcher that tried to do it has been rightly put into a prison cell by the Chinese Government.

  10. #1063
    Mask is to put on in France in crowded and public places and shops. Nobody ask me to put on mask when I climbed Iseran 2770 high yesterday or will Cormet Roseland today, but we don t want to have 2000 deaths like US yesterday, figure given by US university, 5 months after starting there.

  11. #1062
    By the way, the German forum I sometimes read has closed down any discussion about the future of FKK clubs. Talking about Normalcy Bias.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normalcy_bias

    Sure, stick your head in the sand and just ban all discussions and blindly follow what your government tells you, that will make all problems go away, because that has worked so well in the past during the Militarism under the Kaiser, during National Socialism under the Fuehrer, and under the Politburo fascists in the DDR! / sarc.

  12. #1061
    Quote Originally Posted by ExpatLover  [View Original Post]
    Is the french government telling the people that the taxes will increase, that France is close to bankrupt like Italy, Spain.
    Interesting point! Is it a coincidence that CV19 wreaked havoc in Southern Europe, with bad-irresponsible governments, huge corruption, huge debts, and an incompetent health authorities?

    I saw on the news that in France, wearing a face mask outside (in the fresh air!) is now mandatory, just like Spain! Masks outside! Hahahaha! It shows again what kind of irrational-emotional nutcases are in charge in those countries.

    https://www.connexionfrance.com/Fren...ille-Nord-Nice

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53346750

    Quote Originally Posted by Mursenary  [View Original Post]
    What really pisses me off is that people in the healthcare industry have been busting our asses for 6 months having to clean up the mess of people who think like this.
    Yes, "busting our ass" with the wrong treatments like placing people on ventilators (because in the US hospitals make big insurance bucks when patients end up on a ventilator), whilst actively preventing and even denying a very cheap and successful treatments like Hydroxycloroquine (in combination with Zinc, Vitamin C and Vitamine D) because of "Democrat versus Republicans" politics.

    As always, there is no money or power in a quick and effective cure, but the real money and power is made in prolonging the problem as long as possible! This is what the politicians do (again, look at bankrupt countries in Souther Europe) and this is also what the medical establishment does.

    So if I understand you correctly, you want an end to P6? This is what will happen when you introduce a "vaccine" for a constantly mutating Corona virus, because a constantly mutating virus will require a constantly changing "vaccine" (just imagine the billions for the pharmaceutical industry!) and this will require a constant totalitarian Big Brother surveillance state with CV19 tracking apps on every phone.

    Just because a handful of poor souls here don't have a life by spending their entire life on this forum, this doesn't mean that most other people want to have their FKK club visits tracked by the government!

    Posting on a P6 site that you want a CV19 tracking app and a "vaccine," is like the turkeys voting for Thanksgiving.

  13. #1060
    Quote Originally Posted by HammerTime96  [View Original Post]
    Thank you, because this exactly underscores my opinion that COVID-19 isn't that big of a deal, and that all these Millennial Snowflake cries for "masks!" and "lockdowns!" and "social distancing!" and "tracking apps!" and "we need to bypass all due diligence for a vaccine!" are just panic and noise.

    The media wants you to believe that, like Spanish Flu, you might die any moment and that "the virus" is everywhere" and that some people are walking time bombs ("super-spreaders" but when you calmly look at the numbers and calmly look at the enormous progress in medical science there is hardly much need for panic.

    The irony is that a very simple, cheap and successful medical treatments as Hydroxichloroquine (In combination with Zinc + Vitamin C+ Vitamin D! Is being attacked for political reasons (I. E. Trump supported it), which makes me suspicious that other political elements want to blow up this "crisis" much bigger than it actually is.

    Back on topic, as I've stated in a different topic, I think that the 2020 FKK 'season' is over and that Germany has missed the time window to have reopened FKK clubs under safe conditions during this beautifully warm summer. Every day, the daylight period get shorter, every day we get closer to the wet and cold autumn and the start of the flu season, and therefore every day we get closer to more "we have x-amount of CV19 cases," more lockdowns, more media panic, and more "we need a vaccine!" madness!
    What really pisses me off is that people in the healthcare industry have been busting our asses for 6 months having to clean up the mess of people who think like this.

  14. #1059
    Quote Originally Posted by HammerTime96  [View Original Post]
    Thank you, because this exactly underscores my opinion that COVID-19 isn't that big of a deal, and that all these Millennial Snowflake cries for "masks!" and "lockdowns!" and "social distancing!" and "tracking apps!" and "we need to bypass all due diligence for a vaccine!" are just panic and noise.

    The media wants you to believe that, like Spanish Flu, you might die any moment and that "the virus" is everywhere" and that some people are walking time bombs ("super-spreaders" but when you calmly look at the numbers and calmly look at the enormous progress in medical science there is hardly much need for panic.

    The irony is that a very simple, cheap and successful medical treatments as Hydroxichloroquine (In combination with Zinc + Vitamin C+ Vitamin D! Is being attacked for political reasons (I. E. Trump supported it), which makes me suspicious that other political elements want to blow up this "crisis" much bigger than it actually is.

    Back on topic, as I've stated in a different topic, I think that the 2020 FKK 'season' is over and that Germany has missed the time window to have reopened FKK clubs under safe conditions during this beautifully warm summer. Every day, the daylight period get shorter, every day we get closer to the wet and cold autumn and the start of the flu season, and therefore every day we get closer to more "we have x-amount of CV19 cases," more lockdowns, more media panic, and more "we need a vaccine!" madness!
    I hope no one actually takes the comments in this post seriously. Just don't, for the sake of public health.

  15. #1058
    Quote Originally Posted by RockyV  [View Original Post]
    Nothing is failproof in medicine and some serious side effects may always happen, but the chances of these occurring are extremely low. Without a risk / benefit assessment, nothing would be done. If Columbus has considered everything that could've gone wrong in sailing across the ocean, he would have never left.

    CRISPR is a brand new technology and it is expected not to be perfect. It has the potential to cure many cancers and genetic diseases like hemophilia and other rare diseases, but it is far from being perfect. All the first versions of anything are far from perfect, just compare iPhone1 with iPhone10.
    I suppose you are right. Columbus did in fact find the vaccine to an overpopulated Europe when he took the chance of crossing the Atlantic to settle in the New World. And I suppose it is a good thing how they infected and killed off 90% of the native populace with typhus, cholera, small pox, influenza, malaria, bubonic plague, scarlet fever, leishmania, filaria, septisemic plague, dengue fever, schistosomiasis, tetanus, anthrax, botulism, toxoplasmosis, legionella, syphilis, tape worms, fungal diseases and African sleeping sickness etc etc etc.

    When it comes to crispr I am actually more optimistic. But that has nothing to do with medical practices. It has 100% everything to do with computer science and how gene mapping and individual treatments can be managed on a one to one basis instead of mass production methods, and total chaos with absolutely no control. The cut and paste mechanism can also be improved by using more developed proteins than cas9.

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