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  1. #10585
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    Alp Huez is famous but not difficult compare to Zoncolan.
    Where exactly do I say that Zoncolan is not more difficult than Alpe? But you don't know what is VAM, you don't know what is grupetto, you don't know what sprinting means.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    when road is not closed for me,
    Shocking, how come they don't close the road for you?

  2. #10584

    Poor sagan LOL!

    Poor Sagan mentioned on sex forum that it may come up on google search when people google Sagan LOL!

  3. #10583
    Quote Originally Posted by PaulInZurich  [View Original Post]
    So you confirm that you haven't heard about VAM, not a big surprise there. Yet another thing that you don't know about.

    Your "exceptional memory" is failing you again. Seems that I have to educate you for the 20th time what the grupetto is for. Nobody says that Sagan climbs better than Pogacar, but anybody in their right mind is "fully sure" that an old, untrained amateur is slower on any terrain compared to 23% of the peloton, including Sagan.

    Somebody hacked in your account and posted this. You would never acknowledge that doing 11 stages in the days before and 150 km before the climb should be taken in consideration. The real Sirioja would say that he climbs faster than WVA because WVA is heavier.
    If You ever climbed with enough of level and all those who have enough would confirm You Alp Huez is famous but not difficult compare to Zoncolan. Only 3 first kilometers up to la Garde are steep, then You sit and turn legs on 39/22 . Loze up to Mottaret is also easy, steep around 20% , only 1 left curve at 24% , is above up to 2400 m, where I was faster than Sagan who was not able to go faster. On a bit more than 10 kms from Ovaro to Zoncolan, about 2 kms on flat and 2 kms before first flat are not too difficult, meaning You climb more than 1000 meters on only 6 kilometers with 2 kilometers with 19% average steep, but You can t know how it is if You never tried, but professionals need to use 34/32 to climb and they suffer, curving, when road is not closed for me, so I face climbing straight the steep when others I saw make curves. Rather than your only internet, at least I have real yearly experience and we can check on the field if You want. Bicycle is now in the car for whole Summer and I will be 24 days on highest ranked.

  4. #10582
    So you confirm that you haven't heard about VAM, not a big surprise there. Yet another thing that you don't know about.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    I wonder why too heavy, thick legs, Sagan didn't try to follow best climbers,
    Your "exceptional memory" is failing you again. Seems that I have to educate you for the 20th time what the grupetto is for. Nobody says that Sagan climbs better than Pogacar, but anybody in their right mind is "fully sure" that an old, untrained amateur is slower on any terrain compared to 23% of the peloton, including Sagan.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    Van Aert pulled Vingegard whole day.
    Somebody hacked in your account and posted this. You would never acknowledge that doing 11 stages in the days before and 150 km before the climb should be taken in consideration. The real Sirioja would say that he climbs faster than WVA because WVA is heavier.

  5. #10581
    Quote Originally Posted by PaulInZurich  [View Original Post]
    If you would know a little bit about cycling you would have heard of VAM and how you can use VAM to compare performances on different climbs. But then again you still say that Sagan and the 35 pros that finished behind him went full gas on the Loze and that you are better than all of them. Oh yeah, you still don't understand what the grupetto is.

    You must think that WVA is a loser because he almost stopped on the Alpe where it was only 6%. You would only think that if you would have no idea about racing.
    I do bicycle climbing on the field, not only on internet like you, but I hope you know what is 39/22 for nearly all 10 kms above la Garde, versus 34/32 used by professionals on Zoncolan from Ovaro after 2 first kilometers, but only those who never climbed don't know Zoncolan is much more steep difficult than Alp Huez, you should try, with electric bicycle, to be able to reach both tops. If he was such a performer, I wonder why too heavy, thick legs, Sagan didn't try to follow best climbers, and always same on climbings, but just because he was not able to go faster and needed gruppetto not to finish off time. Van Aert pulled Vingegard whole day, when I have nobody to pull or push me, nor products to help me.

  6. #10580
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    I can sprint most often on 39/22 or 24 above la Garde
    LOL, so it takes you a minute or less from La Garde to the top? Or you don't know what sprinting means? Which is it?

  7. #10579
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    huge gap between easy Alp Huez.
    If you would know a little bit about cycling you would have heard of VAM and how you can use VAM to compare performances on different climbs. But then again you still say that Sagan and the 35 pros that finished behind him went full gas on the Loze and that you are better than all of them. Oh yeah, you still don't understand what the grupetto is.

    You must think that WVA is a loser because he almost stopped on the Alpe where it was only 6%. You would only think that if you would have no idea about racing.

  8. #10578
    Quote Originally Posted by PaulInZurich  [View Original Post]
    Bla bla bla, nobody believes you. You just found out about the times on Alpe so now you just make times up, like you make so much up in your head. I remember how proud you were about 1 h 30 on Zoncolan Ovaro when you didn't know what it means. Go invent something else.
    But when you never climbed, you are not able to understand the huge gap between easy Alp Huez I can sprint most often on 39/22 or 24 above la Garde, compare to Zoncolan where best climbers are often on 32 on rear, if you are able to understand the difference, not same world, when not written on internet. But, as I told you: when you want in the steep, for real, but I know I will never see you other than laying on back at Globe, when, even I lost one day, on Saturday, but I will climb my 24 highest ranked, Alp Huez being one of the easiest, but you can't know when only watching TV or internet, when real is on the field. Easier when they cut steep and curves using whole road, compare to my climbing on right side. I will try at night, to also use whole road, seeing lights. Come with me if you want for a sprint, on end of September. Around mid August for Gran San Bernardino, waiting for you.

  9. #10577
    Quote Originally Posted by PaulInZurich  [View Original Post]
    Bla bla bla, nobody believes you. You just found out about the times on Alpe so now you just make times up, like you make so much up in your head. I remember how proud you were about 1 h 30 on Zoncolan Ovaro when you didn't know what it means. Go invent something else.
    The problem of this guy is that he only talk to prostitutes who will listen and nod as they are paid 50 euro per 30 min LOL! This paid experience made him think he is who he like to hallucinate he is and he just forgot that he paid for prostitutes to nod and listen as he cannot do much else in room LOL!

    It is a form of mental disorder and lack of realizing reality and also being the stereo type of French as he fit right in to this we francaise mentality LOL!

  10. #10576
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    I only wrote I was faster than Sagan who was at 6 km / h in very steep in Loze
    And since you say you climb better than Sagan based on the Loze climb, you also say that you climb better than the other 35 pros (23 % of the peloton that day) who finished behind Sagan that day on the Loze. That 6 km / h means absolutely nothing, for example on the last climb of the stage to Mende yesterday they showed Bettiol and Matthews for about 100 m when they were climbing together at the same speed. For one they showed 15 km / h, for the other 11 km / h. Extremely precise and reliable.

    I hear you passed once a grandma on the highway, you must think you are better driver than Lewis Hamilton.

  11. #10575
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    my cardio performances and strength.
    Bla bla bla, nobody believes you. You just found out about the times on Alpe so now you just make times up, like you make so much up in your head. I remember how proud you were about 1 h 30 on Zoncolan Ovaro when you didn't know what it means. Go invent something else.

  12. #10574
    Quote Originally Posted by PaulInZurich  [View Original Post]
    Wait, you compare yourself with average amateurs now, when you say you are better than 23 % of the pro peloton?

    Nobody believes you, I am willing to bet EUR 10 000 that you can't go under 1 hour on the official Alpe dHuez segment (13.08 km at 8. 4 % average).
    Did I say below or aiming? When 1 h09 on beginning of October 2017 when my LR best FKK girl gave me mind on previous day on our last great Friday around Dusseldorf and I drove whole night to Alp Huez. And, among cars, I didn't cut steep nor curves but facing steep on right side, not same climbing. Big wind on top on 2018 . On 2015 or 2016 , Amelie Mauresmo climbed in 1 h 15, Arnaud Clement tennis player 58 mn. You don t understand much about climbing because You are probably not able to climb steep, but when Alp Huez is not difficult above la Garde, except sometimes wind on top, and everybody who really climbed can confirm You, when I don t train more than my Summer tour, so I have my cardio performances and strength, to be better on steepest like Loze or Zoncolan and Morirolo or Agnelo Italian side where I don t climb with Italians curves but facing the steepest for real climbing, when I drive for this. Not many climb straight like me, when You feel You are burning everywhere, furthermore when under sun with more than 40 degrees on bicycle. Loze is easier because higher and not so warm. With only 1. 5 liter on bicycle, even drinking more than 0. 5 liter before starting, but my very fit body lost too much water on Friday when I started under 42 degrees under sun.

  13. #10573
    Quote Originally Posted by PaulInZurich  [View Original Post]
    And you must think that you climb faster than him since he is 70 kg and you are lighter, right?
    Did I write this? When he is heavier than 70 , same like Sagan, and Quentin told he couldn t follow his 47 yo trainer because of his weight, when I think nobody would doubt he would be faster on ski. I only wrote I was faster than Sagan who was at 6 km / h in very steep in Loze, alone on discovery and with no products for me versus gruppetto pulling him and? For him. When I climb around 650 kms only on Summer, not more training. Good surprise about time told for average of amateurs for Alp Huez. Not a main aim because easy climbing above la Garde, but if I have time, at the end of my tour, I may make a sprint on evening when night fall, then can see lights and can cut curves like they did, to shorten distance and time.

  14. #10572
    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    Even though I left Japan at age 12 to attend boarding school in Europe, you must understand I am from big island so island mentality LOL!

    Oh, colosseum is near munich? That place used to have the best line up apparently but runned and owned by Hells angels LOL! The return of Abdel girls LOL! Where did all the Abdel girls go?
    What is Abdel girls?

  15. #10571
    Quote Originally Posted by PaulInZurich  [View Original Post]
    And you must think that you climb faster than him since he is 70 kg and you are lighter, right?
    He's even less, closer to 65 kg or lighter. With his thinking, that probably makes him so fast that he turns the bike into a time machine.
    EDITOR's NOTE: Alias "Takedown, Mursenary"

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