Guadalajara

[Captain Solo]

I have been looking for info on GDL. Man, Moonshot's intel is seriously valuable. Will buy him drinks in HK when we cross.

I definitely want to go to Guadalajara. Girls in GDL are supposed to be better-looking than those in CDMX. Those who come to work in HK prove this fact. With escorts, twitter girls, esteticas, street girls I will have a very busy schedule, hopefully will have enough time to roam the city and get to know her average people. I won't waste time and take the tour to Tequila when I can sample all of them in the bars.

I can fly RT from Tijuana to GDL for $53 in February. Just drive down to Tijuana, park the car in guarded lot at hotel Ticuan for $5 a day, take a $5 UBER ride to Tijuana airport and go. Of course I would have enough time to pop a couple girls, have a good meal in Tijuana before heading out to the airport. Pretty nice huh? This is a piece of cake after flying to a couple countries, including CDMX last week.

Would love to combine this trip with other hot spots in Mexico, culturally and sexily, like Mazatlan, Oaxaca, Chiapas. Really want to visit the Palenque ruin in Chiapas before they build time-share condos around it.

[Captain Solo]

A guy in LA advertises guided travel packages to a number of international destinations, including Mexico, Colombia, Cuba, Brazil, Thailand, Philippines, Vietnam ect. He said he's a licensed travel agent, would provide all support documents for a people visit to Cuba that will meet US State Dept requirements.

He emailed me, said he can arrange whole packages with local guides on the ground, setting guys up in economical girls friendly hotel rooms for as low as $14 a night in CDMX, and casas particular in Cuba with guidance on where to find your dinner companions hehe. There are no international airlines allowed to land in Havana right now, but he claims he can get me RT airfares from LAX to Havana, $600 with one stop and $1000 non stop. May be too good to be true. Of course I won't pay anything upfront. I want his land-only costs but he has not responded.

Check out his site, BUDGETAGENCY. ORG.

[MoonShot]

Which one is the best estetica masculina in gldj?

I saved all my juice for the escorts but I did have a lot of research on Estetica Masculinas. Hotel Love It is very popular with this crowd so I will mention the three EMs that are walking distance from the hotel. First is the well known Danny's.

This is not the same as Dany's Girls which is an escort agency. Danny's is on Av de La Paz #1561. From the hotel, go out to the main street, go up a block to Av de La Paz, make a right, go down about 11 blocks or so and Danny's is to your left. All the EMs I mention are 500 for 30 minutes. I have a picture of Danny's that I attach. I went inside just to have a look in the afternoon and there were two decent looking girls and one ok looking girl.

If you go out to the main street and walk all the way down to the circle, you reach Av Ninos Heros. If you turn right, and walk 3-4 blocks, you will hit Paloma. If you turn left at the circle, you will hit Ximena in about 5 blocks. Both are 500/30. I did not go there.

Locals talk a lot about Paloma Revolucion, on Calz Revolucion 1313. Same 500/30 pricing. The hour rate for these places tend to 700 or 800 for the hour. Extras not included. You would need to take an Uber to get there.

[MoonShot]

Before I went to GDL, I never used Twitter to look for escorts but I quickly saw that escorts in Mexico used Twitter to promote themselves. So I signed for Twitter and it was easy to learn even for an old guy like me in my 50's. The problem with Twitter is the same problem you will run into when you go on the websites where escorts advertise. It is easy to set up a Twitter account so there will be scammers and plenty of flakes. If you read some of my posts, I gave some examples of Twitter girls and how they behave. Twitter girls handle their own scheduling and so they are busy when they are working. As such, they may not respond to you for a while. Also they get a lot of messages from guys and most are just time wasters so they may just overlook your messages. One girl showed me her messages and she had 130 messages that she had not read yet. In addition, they don't work all the time and may be taking some time off when you are in town. Some work daytime only, Some work nights only. Still, there are gems out there but it requires time and effort.

I have put the time and effort so I have found my small collection of good Twitter girls but even the good Twitter girls can be flaky at times..

"I like to spend 1000 to 14000 for the hour including BBBJ and CIM. " No, I don't spend 14000 pesos for the hour. It should be 1400 for the hour.

[MoonShot]

My friend and I were looking for a sex shop to try to buy a dildo and we came across a large number of street hookers in GDL. We were not looking for it but there it was, in the afternoon, on this one street, about 20 street girls standing on the sidewalk among 3 blocks on this one street, Independecia between Humboldt and Calz Indepedecia Nte. We didn't talk to the girls but we asked the sex shop guy how much for the girls. He told me that it was 300 pesos. But of course, you need to get a short time hotel, and that would only include straight sex. Everything else would be extra. I would say 2-3 of the girls were somewhat attractive and I would do them. The rest, just so-so. Just a random thing that I saw. And yes, we did buy that dildo and it was put to good use with escorts.

[MoonShot]

Nice looking chica. I am relatively new at mongering, 3-4 years and have never used twitter to find girls. If someone could help, how do you go about finding them on twitter in a new city? What searches would you use? Thanks.

Before I went to GDL, I never used Twitter to look for escorts but I quickly saw that escorts in Mexico used Twitter to promote themselves. So I signed for Twitter and it was easy to learn even for an old guy like me in my 50's. The problem with Twitter is the same problem you will run into when you go on the websites where escorts advertise. It is easy to set up a Twitter account so there will be scammers and plenty of flakes. If you read some of my posts, I gave some examples of Twitter girls and how they behave. Twitter girls handle their own scheduling and so they are busy when they are working. As such, they may not respond to you for a while. Also they get a lot of messages from guys and most are just time wasters so they may just overlook your messages. One girl showed me her messages and she had 130 messages that she had not read yet. In addition, they don't work all the time and may be taking some time off when you are in town. Some work daytime only, Some work nights only. Still, there are gems out there but it requires time and effort.

I have put the time and effort so I have found my small collection of good Twitter girls but even the good Twitter girls can be flaky at times.

So I always recommend good reliable agencies for newbies as your main source of escorts. With that in your back pocket, you can mess around with Twitter girls with the assumption that they may not show up or may cancel. Agencies always have a few girls at a reasonable price that are available now or in a hour or so. I will provide my personal list of favorite agencies in a separate post. But if you read my past posts, you already know them.

If you want to go to Twitter girls and have a little money to spend, the easier and safest bet is the Connie Garcia crowd. Connie Garcia is the best known of the Twitter girls to gringos and she is both reliable and provides solid performance or so I have heard. Why don't I see her? She charges 2000 for the hour and that's more than I want to pay. She has a lot of friends that she plays with in threesomes and foursomes and they are also highly reliable and have a reputation for attractiveness and solid performance. Her friends tend to charge in the 1600-2000 range. Higher with extras such as anal. To see her friends, you just need to follow her and see who she follows. Her close escort friends include Alexia Sol, Natalia Vela, Alexa Winhouse, Melissa, Daniela, and Nikol Doll. You can have a group orgy with all of them if you have the money. From what I have heard, they are a lot of fun together and play well with each other. I do not personally know.

I like to spend 1000 to 14000 for the hour including BBBJ and CIM. 1000 is harder to find but it is there, usually with promos. When I have time, I will post a few of my favorite Twitter girls who actually show up and are close to being on time.

[Vendelo]

Well, I am going to try to discuss this idea with one of the agencies that I like and I will see what they say. I would propose 1.5 hours in bed combined with up to 1 hour for dinner for 2000 pesos. But even 2100 is fine. I think that is a fair price for both sides and compared to Mexico City, it is a bargain. It should include BBBJ and CIM / COF. Anal extra, of course. This is what guys are looking for in Seeking and if an agency could provide this service, it would save guys a lot of time dealing with flakes on Seeking. So far a lot of Twitter girls think that the rate should be the same as the rate for sex but that's not right. Chatting and eating completely different from providing sexual services and should be priced accordingly. Note that I personally will not be making any money on such a package deal. Just trying to make things happen for guys here and take advantage of such a deal.

Chatting and eating is different that sex but the girl's time is the same.

[AmorPorFavor]

Here are two pictures of my favorite Twitter girl who is always late by a lot and sometimes does not show up. I tolerate her because when she does show up, she is so good to me and she stays longer than the one hour I pay her. If you look at her pictures, you might understand why I tolerate her antics. I don't mention her name because I don't want to hurt her business. She's trying to be better but it's not working so far. Ha ha ha. When she gets her act together, I will let you know. She is a 1300 peso an hour girl.

Nice looking chica. I am relatively new at mongering, 3-4 years and have never used twitter to find girls. If someone could help, how do you go about finding them on twitter in a new city? What searches would you use? Thanks.

[SamPeter71]

Thank you Juan for the insights. I will stick to Guadalajara for my 1st trip. CDMX may be later.

Ease of access, in my view is get access to quality girls without spending too much time. I. e SA is too much work.

In case of escorts, reliable agencies, where they send what they say so that I don't have to spend too much time researching each girl.

Could you please suggest some good agencies?

I like young petite 18 to 20 year old who offer GFE, BBJ etc. I am flexible on price.

Any other pointers to help.

GDL is a much easier for the hobby.

Strip Clubs. CDMX enforces the "no trafficking" laws. While prostitution is legal, it is illegal to profit from the earnings of a prostitute. Consequently, with but rare and clandestine exception, there are no incall places; no strip clubs with services in privados, no esteticas masculinas, no casas, nor massage parlors. There are some small clubs that operate outside of the city limits, in the Estado de Mexico.

Escorts. There are many hundreds, exponentially more than in Guadalajara and nearly all are independents. There are a few agencies that somehow continue to operate but for the most part the girls do not share their earnings with a pimp or agency. Some of the South Americans who are trafficked to tour other cities in Mexico also stop in CDMX and charge upwards of $2500 MXN. I don't know how those guys get away with it. Escort prices are slightly higher in CDMX and Mexicana escorts who occasionally visit from Guadalajara or Monterrey raise their prices accordingly, perhaps $300 to $500 MXN more. The standard price for an attractive, talented escort at first visit is between $1,200 to $2,000 an hour. Many can be had for much less. I have found my sweet spot at about $1500 MXN..

[MoonShot]

Here are two pictures of my favorite Twitter girl who is always late by a lot and sometimes does not show up. I tolerate her because when she does show up, she is so good to me and she stays longer than the one hour I pay her. If you look at her pictures, you might understand why I tolerate her antics. I don't mention her name because I don't want to hurt her business. She's trying to be better but it's not working so far. Ha ha ha. When she gets her act together, I will let you know. She is a 1300 peso an hour girl.

[Juan Carter]

Any comparison between these 2 cities for mongering. What is good at each of these locations?

Strip clubs.

Escorts.

Street scene.

Ease if access to girls.

Pricing.

GDL is a much easier for the hobby.

Strip Clubs. CDMX enforces the "no trafficking" laws. While prostitution is legal, it is illegal to profit from the earnings of a prostitute. Consequently, with but rare and clandestine exception, there are no incall places; no strip clubs with services in privados, no esteticas masculinas, no casas, nor massage parlors. There are some small clubs that operate outside of the city limits, in the Estado de Mexico.

Escorts. There are many hundreds, exponentially more than in Guadalajara and nearly all are independents. There are a few agencies that somehow continue to operate but for the most part the girls do not share their earnings with a pimp or agency. Some of the South Americans who are trafficked to tour other cities in Mexico also stop in CDMX and charge upwards of $2500 MXN. I don't know how those guys get away with it. Escort prices are slightly higher in CDMX and Mexicana escorts who occasionally visit from Guadalajara or Monterrey raise their prices accordingly, perhaps $300 to $500 MXN more. The standard price for an attractive, talented escort at first visit is between $1,200 to $2,000 an hour. Many can be had for much less. I have found my sweet spot at about $1500 MXN.

Street Scene. By far, CDMX has more streetwalkers than anywhere in Mexico. In the blocks near the La Merced market you can count in excess of a hundred on any given day. There are other streetwalker areas throughout the city. Prices and practices for street girls are about the same in CDMX as anywhere else in Mexico. They all have a very inexpensive starting price for a 15 minute "poke and go" and then charge extra for everything. For a decent experience, an hour with a streetwalker ends up at about the same as for an escort and only a very few streetwalkers will put BBBJ on the table. Escorts give a much better bang for the buck that a streetwalker. There is an ISG thread devoted to the DF Street Scene.

Ease of Access. I am not sure what this means but unless you settle for streetwalkers or know how to score quality escorts, CDMX is not easy. I do escorts almost exclusively and have never been sex starved. I have dozens of CDMX escorts on my MustRepeat list and dozens more on my GottaTry list because of ISG recommendations or reviews by locals. My favoritas are so talented and satisfying I usually see just a handful and try out "new girls" at escort parties.

[LuvMexicanas]

These are pictures that I personally took without any editing. Only the lighting was enhanced because it was dark in the room. The Agency said she was 20 years old. Age is always a suspect thing with agencies. She is as old or young as you think she is. I think she looks about 20. Alex girls tend to be 20 for a few years.

In your previous post, you said you got her for 1400 (1300+100). That's a good value. You did well. She is nice looking girl. I like what I get in Tijuana but it costs a few hundred pesos more so in the 1700-1900 range. That includes everything so none of the piecemeal pricing bullshit. No biggie because everything costs more near the border, but like GDL pricing. Monger on!

[MoonShot]

Twitter girls can be very unreliable but I make the effort because there are also gems on Twitter. I am very experienced in traveling to the Philippines and Thailand but not Mexico. I am an older man in my late 50's. I made my first trip to GDL two months ago and just came back from my second trip a few days ago. I am back to work and other responsibilities so my reports will be posted here and there as I have time.

This is a short story about crazy unreliable Twitter girls.

Claudia.

Contacted her in the morning and we agreed on 4 pm. When I responded with my hotel name, no response. No responses for the rest of the day. I told her another day at 3 pm and moved on. The next day she messaged me in the morning and said her father is sick and she had to go to the hospital. I said when are you available and she said today. So I arranged for 8 pm appointment and she said ok. Around the afternoon, I message her for a confirmation and got no response. Same with other messages. At 6 pm, I asked her to confirm by 7 pm or I will move on. At 7 pm, she said can I reschedule to 9 pm because she is busy with courses. I said ok and then no further responses from her. The next day, I sent her a message asking what happened and she responded with the message about her father being sick and she got busy. Of course, it would be nice if she could let me know and cancel the appointment but I understand how she might be distracted.

So why do I persist with Claudia and will try again next trip? She has a reputation as a solid provider who was one of the best with her old agency. I guess as a new independent, scheduling is not one of her skills. I will let you know if I ever see her.

Susan Gutierrez.

On my last trip I arranged to see her but she kept saying she was busy and not available. Toward the end of the trip, she and I made a date but as the time neared, she did not respond to my messages. On this trip, she said she would see me. We arranged for a date and time and as the time neared, she stopped responding to my messages. Very annoying. She has a reputation for not showing up but also a reputation for excellent performance when she does show up. Would I try again next time? Yes, but as with Claudia, with a short leash and Plan be in place.

Fernando.

Arranged for 3 pm appointment and everything seemed set. At 2 pm, she messages me to say family issues and she has to cancel. Plan be in place and I saw an agency girl instead and it all worked out.

And then there is my favorite Twitter girls who is outrageously late. She would say she would see me and then hours would pass without any commitment as to time. Then she would say 7 pm, and there would be a series of messages eventually pushing it to 10 pm or 11 pm. Or there would be days where she said she would definitely see me and then nothing and then she would see me at a certain time, and then nothing and then sorry can't make it today. I have seen her five times over two trips and she is always like that. Why do I put it with it? When she shows up, she is great in bed and she always stays longer than the one hour that I pay. Two hours or two and a half hours is the norm for the 1300 fee that I pay. Why does she do that? We have a good connection and she seems to enjoy spending time with me. But her unreliability is insane and I will be more strict in cancellations next time. Still she is one of my favorite Twitter girls. I am not going to say her name because I don't want to ruin her business. I can't recommend a girl like that but boy do I have fun with her.

Large number of Twitter girls. Messages sent for more information. No response at all. Just part of the game.

There are a lot of Twitter girls that seem to be attractive. Often you need to contact them for price info and whether BBBJ is offered. If they respond, they will give you a preset message with price info. A few will require a deposit and that is a no go for me. A few will only go to certain motels and that is a no go for me. A few ask for 1600 or above for an hour or 1300 to 1400 for an hour with BBBJ extra for 300-500. I pass on those prices. But you will find attractive girls in the 1000-1400 per hour price range. Many but not all of the girls asking 1000 only provide CBJ.

[Penetrador]

There have been a lot of postings about Estetica Masculinas but there is also another option available for guys trying to save money. The private casas. It is like a brothel operating in a private apartment. There is no sign on the outside. They promote themselves via Twitter and Facebook and other escort advertising websites. The difference is that they only charge 350 pesos for half an hour and there are sometimes promos for 300 pesos for the half hour. That's $15 for half an hour. The hour price is between 500 to 600, I can't recall. The selection of girls is similar to EMs. Mostly older in the 30's, curvier, 5/6 in looks but there are gems here and there, slimmer, younger, attractive. I will try to attach a picture that they posted on Twitter. I hope it works. First time I am uploading pictures. I edited out the telephone number per website rules. I think the two fotos are a fair representation of the girls that are available. Usually 2-4 girls are hanging around depending on the time but I only went there once.

Casa de la Munecas (House of the Dolls) is a well known popular private casa. They are located at Gregorio Davila 784, Lectra A. It is a safe neighborhood, about 10 minutes via Uber from Hotel Love It. I went there to check it out for research purposes and I thought it was fine and the girls were an acceptable level of quality. But I personally prefer GFE treatment for higher priced escorts in my hotel room so I passed for now. On hindsight, for $15, I should have just banged the most attractive girl. Ha ha ha.

Which one is the best estetica masculina in gldj?

[SamPeter71]

Any comparison between these 2 cities for mongering. What is good at each of these locations?

Strip clubs.

Escorts.

Street scene.

Ease if access to girls.

Pricing.