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  1. #3484
    Quote Originally Posted by Velasco  [View Original Post]
    That was not a good documentary, I have to say. No, every woman you see is not available, and some tact is necessary.

    Yes, the kind of casa you are looking for is available, some even have private entrances, maybe someone here will take the trouble to share. I have stayed in casas where the owners gave me the key and never bothered, but we were all using the same entrance, so a family member would OCCASIONALLY be in the living room when I came through. They did NOT mention the issue of Cubanas, and in those cases I ended up spending the night out of the house, kinda wandering back early in the morning. In some of my old reports, I ended up with older cougar, MILF types who just took me back to their places.
    Indeed, after 20 years mongering in Cuba I can confirm NOT every woman is available, and in my opinion Havana is spoiled nowadays concerning mongering, even the attitude of the habaneros sucks nowadays. I mean the habaneros who are working with tourists, the security guard, the waiter, the casa owner etc.

    The discos are full of hardcore putas, with an age of 20 and a face of a 40 year old, only working at night, every night. And the prices they ask are ridiculous.

  2. #3483
    Quote Originally Posted by helprules  [View Original Post]
    aren't these servers and regular girls also pay for play once they see you are american. i saw this documentary after my last posting, which i am sure you guys saw, called " cuba prostitution documentary" they made it seem like every girl was for sale that was single. the guy was a real jerk, and the film wasnt well done, but it was nice eye opener for someone who never went. my plan was to meet a hottie at one of these take out clubs, and pay her again the next day to show me around and see the culture. 50 bucks to be a tour guide can't be bad money for 4 hours. i would definitely need to have a connection with the girl, which usually isn't that hard for me after a few girls. btw, are these girls pretty sexual with other women.

    i'm a little dissapointed in the casa problems i will have. i want a private apartment / casa where i don't have to see the owner when i come and go with girls. pay them the money, promise not to have **** girls, which i never do anyway, and see you when i check out. anyone stay at a place like that?
    that was not a good documentary, i have to say. no, every woman you see is not available, and some tact is necessary.

    yes, the kind of casa you are looking for is available, some even have private entrances, maybe someone here will take the trouble to share. i have stayed in casas where the owners gave me the key and never bothered, but we were all using the same entrance, so a family member would occasionally be in the living room when i came through. they did not mention the issue of cubanas, and in those cases i ended up spending the night out of the house, kinda wandering back early in the morning. in some of my old reports, i ended up with older cougar, milf types who just took me back to their places.

  3. #3482
    Two pics about my last trip in Havana 2009.

    Bye
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  4. #3481
    Quote Originally Posted by HelpRules  [View Original Post]
    Why wouldn't you go back just for the pussy. Don't you find a girl and take her to listen to the music and dance. Is the music that good that I would want to listen to it w / o hooking up at the same time. If the police are a problem, why not get a casa next to the best take out joint, and just tell the girl to walk over or take a quick cab ride by herself.

    As far as Colombia, been there, but the clubs aren't great. The girls are hardcore and hot, but not much to do there. I will go back one day, but I assume there are more things to do in Cuba during the dead time, and from what I gather the cuban girls are not as hardcore.
    Cuba is where Afro-Latin Music and Dance started. That is my passion and for me it's enough reason to go. Any pussy I might come across is a bonus. For pure mongering, you're much better off in Colombia or the DR. Cuba can be a hassle every step of the way, especially coming from the US.

    Also, if you are just there to monger, the Cubanas you are likely to come across will be really hardcore.

  5. #3480
    Quote Originally Posted by velasco  [View Original Post]
    this is a nice discussion. if you have been to mexico, colombia and other places then you will do fine in cuba. the reason why i directed you elsewhere is because you asked the question "what is a casa," something that would be best answered outside of this site. as far as space to hook up, there would be at least 2 forms of casas, with plenty of grey area.

    1- a legal, registered casa that is guest friendly, meaning they would allow you to bring a cubana into the place and let her spend the night with you after she registers. the problem with this is that they may not allow another woman for the duration of time that you are staying there, so if she is no good after your first session then it complicates things for you. also, some cubanas may be unwilling to share their information, with cuba being a police state and all. this will be especially the case of the chica has been busted for jineterismo. you will definitely run into this problem if you are in hotels. some casa owners may just want to hold onto the woman's id and not register her, it all depends. also, you may be in one city where you will have no problem registering your chica, and then have trouble doing the same thing in the next city.

    2- an illegal casa, which basically means someone renting out a room for hookups. this is not a bad idea for daytime quickies. i have even spent nights at such casas, the downside being you have to leave at around 6 am. the going rate for overnighting at illegal casas seems to be no more than $15 cuc. any cuban will have no trouble finding such a place.

    anyway, moving on. like wet nose said, things in cuba change from week to week, and you may just have the misfortune of arriving at the beginning of a crackdown on jineterismo. a lot of stuff is possible in cuba, it just depends.

    re: reports of distinction. a lot of people, yours truly included, do not even bother to take that extra step to make sure one's report is included in the "reports of distinction" section. so you may have to do more reading...
    aren't these servers and regular girls also pay for play once they see you are american. i saw this documentary after my last posting, which i am sure you guys saw, called " cuba prostitution documentary" they made it seem like every girl was for sale that was single. the guy was a real jerk, and the film wasnt well done, but it was nice eye opener for someone who never went. my plan was to meet a hottie at one of these take out clubs, and pay her again the next day to show me around and see the culture. 50 bucks to be a tour guide can't be bad money for 4 hours. i would definitely need to have a connection with the girl, which usually isn't that hard for me after a few girls. btw, are these girls pretty sexual with other women.

    i'm a little dissapointed in the casa problems i will have. i want a private apartment / casa where i don't have to see the owner when i come and go with girls. pay them the money, promise not to have **** girls, which i never do anyway, and see you when i check out. anyone stay at a place like that?

  6. #3479

    No one said hateful thing about Fidel

    Just came back today from a 10 day trip, and I will post the report in the following days.

    There are people who are going to defend the system, and there are people who are going to say it is malo mal.

    In my simple logic this is how it works.

    If someones family was doing well under Batista, someone is from a city, someone has relatives in Miami, someone is closer to a tourist then that someone is going to say bad things about the system (not Fidel)

    If someone was poor and exploited by Batista and his cronies, someone is from a small town / farm then that someone either does not have an opinion or not a bad opinion about the system.

    A fellow working hard in the field, another fellow construction employee, the lady who sells vegetables did not bad mouth the system to me, even when I gave them an option to do so in a very confidential way.

    The lazy fellow, driving around a beaten up taxi funded by his family in Miami, and the chica who owns 12 pairs (no typo) of footwear and hangs around with tourists saying she is poor, said to me it is bad.

    It is for Cubans to say what they want, I have no right to say what is good for them. Let time decide.

  7. #3478

    HelpRules' Summary

    This is a nice discussion. If you have been to Mexico, Colombia and other places then you will do fine in Cuba. The reason why I directed you elsewhere is because you asked the question "What is a casa," something that would be best answered outside of this site. As far as space to hook up, there would be at least 2 forms of casas, with plenty of grey area.

    1- A legal, registered casa that is guest friendly, meaning they would allow you to bring a Cubana into the place and let her spend the night with you after she registers. The problem with this is that they MAY NOT allow another woman for the duration of time that you are staying there, so if she is no good after your first session then it complicates things for you. Also, some Cubanas may be unwilling to share their information, with Cuba being a police state and all. This will be especially the case of the chica has been busted for jineterismo. You will definitely run into this problem if you are in hotels. Some casa owners may just want to hold onto the woman's I'd and not register her, it all depends. Also, you may be in one city where you will have no problem registering your chica, and then have trouble doing the same thing in the next city.

    2- An illegal casa, which basically means someone renting out a room for hookups. This is not a bad idea for daytime quickies. I have even spent nights at such casas, the downside being you have to leave at around 6 am. The going rate for overnighting at illegal casas seems to be no more than $15 CUC. Any Cuban will have no trouble finding such a place.

    Anyway, moving on. Like Wet Nose said, things in Cuba change from week to week, and you may just have the misfortune of arriving at the beginning of a crackdown on jineterismo. A lot of stuff is possible in Cuba, it just depends.

    RE: Reports of distinction. A lot of people, yours truly included, do not even bother to take that extra step to make sure one's report is included in the "Reports of distinction" section. So you may have to do more reading.

    There are no strip clubs in Cuba. I recall a post about a high end restaurant that had opened with waitresses in short, tight, cleavage bearing outfits, but the girls were not available for takeout. It seems that pretty much every woman in Cuba is wearing something that is too short, too tight and shows too much cleavage anyway.

    Mr. Gogo and Combo are absolutely right, go for more than just hooking up with Cubanas. I have met a few chaps that were there just for the pussy, and it was just weird talking to them. One sat next to me on the Nassau- Havana flight once, and could not name a single museum he had been to in 6 trips to Cuba. There is amazing history, architecture, music etc. Exploring the other side of Cuba also gives you an opportunity to meet with regular, girl-next-door types that you will not meet in the clubs. In one of your earlier posts, you talked of the possibility of a "Long term date" with a Cubana who would show you around the best clubs and restaurants. It is highly unlikely that you will meet this kind of Cubana at Salon Rojo or Casa de la Musica.

    I have met random Cubanas that were working as waitresses, others were in a queue for ice cream, others I stopped to ask for directions to a museum or plaza. One of my future missions is to hook up with a Cuban museum guide, with their sexy fishnet pantyhose and navy blue miniskirts.

  8. #3477
    Quote Originally Posted by HelpRules  [View Original Post]
    Why wouldn't you go back just for the pussy. Don't you find a girl and take her to listen to the music and dance. Is the music that good that I would want to listen to it w / o hooking up at the same time. If the police are a problem, why not get a casa next to the best take out joint, and just tell the girl to walk over or take a quick cab ride by herself.

    As far as Colombia, been there, but the clubs aren't great. The girls are hardcore and hot, but not much to do there. I will go back one day, but I assume there are more things to do in Cuba during the dead time, and from what I gather the cuban girls are not as hardcore.
    The point he was trying to make is that Cuba is about more than just pussy. If you go for just pussy then you are cheating yourself out of a wonderful experience. There is no other place like Cuba on this earth. Its like its being preserved for a final look for those interested.

    Its good music everywhere, and its sung with passion. There is no guaranteed financial reward, they sing fir the love of Cuban music. From the jazz at la Zorra why el Cuervo to Casa de Musica. From the beach to guys singing on the Malecon. Its everywhere.

    From the ancient buildings that are untouched over the last 100 years to the Spanish history that still stands.

    From the people who make the best of a bad situation. To the beautiful women who still make love with passion. To the romantic air that makes Cubans still believe in romance.

    I really am starting to dislike guys that go there exclusively to exploit the island for its pretty women who fuck for less. Respect the island and the people and you will receive all the rewards the island has to offer. Go there looking for the next Rio fuck fest and the people will see through your deception.

  9. #3476
    Quote Originally Posted by Combo  [View Original Post]
    If you're trying to fine a place that's like "Rio back in the day," you're likely to be disappointed. The only place that compares IMO is maybe Thailand. You probably need to adjust your expectations whether it be in Cuba, Colombia, or the DR.

    Cuba's glory days for mongering were back in the 90s. It was a free-for-all with no police concern with chica-tourist interaction. I was lucky enough to go in '99. I went again in '01 after the early crackdowns began and it was noticeably worse. I am going to try it again in January 2014. However, my trip is as much about music and dance as it is about chicas. I would not go back to Cuba if I was only interested in pussy. Colombia or the DR make alot more sense in that regard.
    Why wouldn't you go back just for the pussy. Don't you find a girl and take her to listen to the music and dance. Is the music that good that I would want to listen to it w / o hooking up at the same time. If the police are a problem, why not get a casa next to the best take out joint, and just tell the girl to walk over or take a quick cab ride by herself.

    As far as Colombia, been there, but the clubs aren't great. The girls are hardcore and hot, but not much to do there. I will go back one day, but I assume there are more things to do in Cuba during the dead time, and from what I gather the cuban girls are not as hardcore.

  10. #3475
    Quote Originally Posted by HelpRules  [View Original Post]
    I don't think Frommers is going to give me the mongering perspective on the best lodging. Thats why I posted here. I want to know what the best casas are near the most popular beach for a cheap price that allows girls w / o a extra charge. I'm assuming that can be answered here way better than Frommers or some travel book. It would be nice to be close to the beach, so I can just walk to the beach from my room, check out the girls in their bikinis, be hit on by the semi and pro hookers, and then take them back to my casa a couple blocks away. Thats what Rio was like back in the day, but it has really dried up there and is too expensive. Is this plan good, or do I have Cuba all wrong. If I can meet girls this way when I arrive, I can do a longer term date with the girls I like, and let them show me around Cuba for the best clubs and restaurants. It would shorten my learning curve this way.
    If you're trying to fine a place that's like "Rio back in the day," you're likely to be disappointed. The only place that compares IMO is maybe Thailand. You probably need to adjust your expectations whether it be in Cuba, Colombia, or the DR.

    Cuba's glory days for mongering were back in the 90s. It was a free-for-all with no police concern with chica-tourist interaction. I was lucky enough to go in '99. I went again in '01 after the early crackdowns began and it was noticeably worse. I am going to try it again in January 2014. However, my trip is as much about music and dance as it is about chicas. I would not go back to Cuba if I was only interested in pussy. Colombia or the DR make alot more sense in that regard.

  11. #3474
    Forgive me, my ADHD may have gotten the better of me. I too don't hang with the elites of Cuba, I. 90 percent of the time, live with them in their barrios. I love the Cuban people.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Gogo  [View Original Post]
    I don't hang with the Miramar (sp) crowd or the wealthy. My info comes from the street. You may in fact be correct, but I have no interest in developing an opinion about oppression from people of privilege.

    I'm not here to get into the political situation in Cuba, people will find out when they go. But if you want to say that the people are lying in their opinions about Fidel to me, thats cool I guess. But in my post I never said the people in Cuba hate Fidel. I said past American governments and the South Florida Cubans hate Fidel.

  12. #3473
    1) I read some more reports, and the more recent reports of distinction, which werent that many in the last 5 years, so let me know if I have this about right. There are 2 main clubs where all the girls are hookers, like HELP in Rio. I forgot the names of the clubs. The girls go for about 60 to 100 cuc, which if I am right, is about 70 to 110 dollars, since you don't get 1 to 1 like xe. Com shows. Some of the guys say don't pay more than 25 dollars for a girl. Is this doable in the main 2 takeout clubs. I only bang girls in the 8 to 10 range. I like to pay the going rate. I never pay more and I usually don't care about haggling for much less, but if the going rate is 25 dollars, I would rather pay that, and have a hell of a lot of fun, but I have a feeling it's going to be 50 to 70 american dollars a pop at the nice clubs. You never know what these girls look like that are 25 dollars. I understand that doctors make like 50 dollars a month, but guys are suckers for hot girls with DD, so doctor's salaries salary aren't material when a hot chick is staring you in the face. Although, If I could get 9 and 10's for 50 dollars a night with no hassle, I would have so much fun. It would be like Brazil all over.

    2) If you want girls for cheaper, you can get them walking around the streets, and that price will depend on your negotiating skills I assume. Stay at a casa, so you don't have to pay the guard to get the girl up. Are there any hotels where there are no extra charges for girls. I really like staying at hotels. Its safer and I can put my money in the safe when the girl is in the room. I got the impression from reading the reports that just about all the girls walking around are for sale, since they have plenty of free time, and their major needs are met by the government.

    3) There are no strip clubs from what I read. Is this correct. That sucks. I really like seeing the body w / o all the clothes that can hide alot. Although, the reports show that these girls all have great bodies. I guess all that walking and no fast food will do that for you.

    Please comment on my summary of Cuba. I want to go before it opens up to capitalism, because those rich guys from miami and the northeast are going to ruin it for us all. How much do you think the girls will be charging when Cuba becomes a open country again. Any estimates.

  13. #3472
    Quote Originally Posted by Velasco  [View Original Post]
    Glad there are quite a few new people seeking information and planning to visit Cuba. A lot of the information you are looking for is pretty simple, basic stuff that you can get elsewhere. There are several places where you can get information, beginning with travel books and travel sites like Moon books, Frommer's etc. I think you should spend a little time perusing those places as you are seeking information that is necessary for ALL travelers (Accommodation, travel between cities, currency, food etc).

    Yes, things have changed in the last 5 years, but Cuba is still worth a trip. I think once you have the foundation down I think you will be fine, especially since you have been to other places in Latin America. Just read as much of this forum as possible, take a few notes, have fun and report back. Good luck!
    I don't think Frommers is going to give me the mongering perspective on the best lodging. Thats why I posted here. I want to know what the best casas are near the most popular beach for a cheap price that allows girls w / o a extra charge. I'm assuming that can be answered here way better than Frommers or some travel book. It would be nice to be close to the beach, so I can just walk to the beach from my room, check out the girls in their bikinis, be hit on by the semi and pro hookers, and then take them back to my casa a couple blocks away. Thats what Rio was like back in the day, but it has really dried up there and is too expensive. Is this plan good, or do I have Cuba all wrong. If I can meet girls this way when I arrive, I can do a longer term date with the girls I like, and let them show me around Cuba for the best clubs and restaurants. It would shorten my learning curve this way.

  14. #3471
    Quote Originally Posted by Kalifornication  [View Original Post]
    Words from the Petite bourgeoisie. You guys have no idea how life is on the ground in Cuba. It's about as diverse, in terms of opinions, as elsewhere. There are those that are fed up, those that are content and many in the middle. For the record, they don't hate Fidel. No matter how much they may say so, they don't. In any case, Fidel is effectively off the scene and, even assuming he is, Cuba is changing and changing rapidly. They will not lose their socialism, but it will indeed evolve. About girls being harassed, my girl has never been harassed not once in the past 5 years.
    I don't hang with the Miramar (sp) crowd or the wealthy. My info comes from the street. You may in fact be correct, but I have no interest in developing an opinion about oppression from people of privilege.

    I'm not here to get into the political situation in Cuba, people will find out when they go. But if you want to say that the people are lying in their opinions about Fidel to me, thats cool I guess. But in my post I never said the people in Cuba hate Fidel. I said past American governments and the South Florida Cubans hate Fidel.

  15. #3470
    Words from the Petite bourgeoisie. You guys have no idea how life is on the ground in Cuba. It's about as diverse, in terms of opinions, as elsewhere. There are those that are fed up, those that are content and many in the middle. For the record, they don't hate Fidel. No matter how much they may say so, they don't. In any case, Fidel is effectively off the scene and, even assuming he is, Cuba is changing and changing rapidly. They will not lose their socialism, but it will indeed evolve. About girls being harassed, my girl has never been harassed not once in the past 5 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Gogo  [View Original Post]
    Agreed. But the hope is in the strength of the people. I have been to other countries where the people are oppressed, and they have given up. But the Cubans know the regime is coming to an end eventually, and there in is the strength.

    You have to put this into perspective. Everything centers around one person, Fidel. The past American governments hate Fidel. The south Florida Cubans hate Fidel. Even the people in Cuba wait for a world without El Presidente. Once this obstacle is not there everything changes. Now the question is does it change for the better with American involvement? I won't go deep into this topic, but I will say this; The Cuban people are probably the strongest group I have seen in dealing with an oppressed society.

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