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  1. #3666
    Gentlemen,

    I appreciate your comments, as all of them help to understand better. I was not wanting to say, that I didn't post anymore. I have been an constant reader (and posted a little bit) on boards about game. I do not think my game is very well developed, but I think I developed some inner game that helped me, to have free sex with girls I met online or in the street within a couple of hours. Had I posted the story (with more emphasis on the game applied), no one would even have thought about the possibility of paying. People there would have felt, that a (semi-) pro would never ever let anybody fuck her without asking for money. In the Bangkok section of that board, there used to be a thread about hot to fuck pros for free. For western guys with an elaborate game, hunting there is so easy that it is not believed as any kind of challenge, to get free sex with a 10. Rarely this kind of contact ends in being boyfriend / girlfriend, but either in FWB, fuckbuddies or they will never see each other again. So in that board, it is about: how fast you can get a "fuck close" or about other challenges; just like: getting a pro to have free sex (without treating her badly, I. E. Without leaving without payment when payment was agreed upon).

    I don't think that all people in that board are of the highest moral standards. The same is most likely true for the members of this board here. And all other inhabitants of our planet, myself included. But that is not the issue. Both are not morality boards but are dedicated to other questions.

    Reporting about paid sex in the game forum would be regarded very weird and would have initiated immense discussions, about how game is destroyed by paying for sex.

    Interestingly, reporting about unpaid sex in this board has triggered similar reactions. I hadn't expected that.

    In the end, I assume its better to have the stories of paid sex in the paid sex board and the stories about getting "fuck close" in the game forum. Honestly, I really don't assume that this girl ever did something like this before and I doubt whether she will turn her head in the pay sex world now. Many many reasons to believe so and only two to believe otherwise: 1) she is a female living in Boca chicha 2) she agreed to have sds (same day sex).

    Well, rest of the journey has been a bit boring. I was not in the mood to do much. Duarte is not exactly the type of meeting place that attracts me most, the issue with my hotel is a bit disturbing and I was not up to continue at the same speed as the first days and instead worked a bit at the pool, where they have excellent WIFI. I found my cappuccino place and my pasta place and my mojito everywhere, so I am totally fine.

    I had a day trip to Santo Domingo, talked to a few girls in Parque Colon, the Conde and Parque Cervantes (looked like drug people), went to PSG (nothing higher than a 5, 1500 for very quick number in a room with water-soaked slippery floor) and back home. Today I even left out my massage because I didn't feel like it and as I am writing this, my hottie from day3 is lying in the hotel bed and playing on her phone. I invited her over late in the evening for a quick fuck, but she told me, she wanted to stay the night. Hmm. I told her, I was not interested in having her here the night (I'm not into that), she can stay if she wants but I would not pay for an overnight stay. The last time, she had told me, I could give her what I want and so I did. This time, she sent me 5 message why I would talk about money. She just wanted to stay for the night. When she arrived, she got immediately undressed, but instead of answering my attempts to caress her, she took her phone and watched Facetime videos. ("Pourquoi tu es pressť, je suis ici toute la nuit. ") Eh bien, I started to read something on the balcony after an hour she started some action, but obviously, she wanted me to end it quickly. I was not that interested anymore in such kind of mechanic action, but I would not want to pay without having done anything. So, I went through all positions I could think of (most of them were declined by her) and it was an hour of hard work for both of us. I came almost silent and without any violin sound. .

    After having written to you, gentlemen, I will go back to her and see what we will do for the rest of the night. And how much I will slip in her purse tomorrow.

    Most ladies here have treated my penis quite roughly. Seems, that Dominican male anatomy is a bit less sensitive to intensive handjobs than mine, and except my massage girl who is giving nice (but nothing more) blowjobs I am really missing BJ specialists here. But I guess this is just bad luck and I was in the wrong places.

    Enjoy the night, wherever you are!

  2. #3665
    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    Thats the noise he makes when he comes.
    Evidently you understood well as to why I was curious. LOL!

  3. #3664
    Quote Originally Posted by Tempoecorto  [View Original Post]
    BTW, are you a violin player?
    Thats the noise he makes when he comes.

  4. #3663
    Quote Originally Posted by Stradivari  [View Original Post]
    It seems my messages to get in touch do not go through the clearance.

    I will have lunch at the boat house at around 1 pm again. I'm the guy with a red bracelet on his right wrist.
    Sry, didn't see your msg until now. I just arrived boathouse. Will be here for an hour. Red t-shirt at the bar. 4-5 pm.

  5. #3662

    Hear, hear

    Quote Originally Posted by Oakie  [View Original Post]
    Don't take it personally. Your honest report provoked an interesting discussion here.

    When you've been on this board for a while, you'll see that you will be taken to task by the regulars for A. Paying too much. Be. Paying too little. See. Treating a prostitute like shit. The. Having a prostitute treat you like shit.
    How true! All the above are the transgressions that every monger should be striving to avoid.

  6. #3661

    Naw Keep Posting

    Quote Originally Posted by Stradivari  [View Original Post]
    I understand what you are saying but I'm not sure if you are making the right guess I'm this particular situation. Maybe, some here are looking through mongers glasses for too long and have forgotten the rest of the world. One lesson learned for me is: I'll never again report on a situation where I didn't pay money. It's outside the scope of this board. Cheers.
    This is what the board is about. Exchanging information, seeing things from a different perspective so that you can have and continue to have good times with the ladies in DR. Theres honestly no right or wrong way in how you handle the situation. All the OGs on this board that commented on your situation are just giving their observation on how they wouldve handle it as they've been around the block quite a few times.

    This has honestly been some good solid dialog about how to deal with the different type of ladies (froms pros to regular girls) in DR.

    We're enjoying your adventure so keep posting.

  7. #3660
    Quote Originally Posted by Stradivari  [View Original Post]
    I understand what you are saying but I'm not sure if you are making the right guess I'm this particular situation. Maybe, some here are looking through mongers glasses for too long and have forgotten the rest of the world. One lesson learned for me is: I'll never again report on a situation where I didn't pay money. It's outside the scope of this board. Cheers.
    Don't take it personally. Your honest report provoked an interesting discussion here.

    When you've been on this board for a while, you'll see that you will be taken to task by the regulars for A. Paying too much. Be. Paying too little. See. Treating a prostitute like shit. The. Having a prostitute treat you like shit.

    It's all good and the responses tell us more about the posters attitudes, than about you.

    Thing is, I always wish there was a similar forum for DR P4P ladies.

    As a resident here, I maintain relationships with all kinds of chicas, (except the hard core SW's). They have all our types sorted and categorized. They have their stories to tell too, funny and sad. They've learned to read guys like a book, and can smell a bad news monger from fifty paces. I always take issue when mongers, who allow themselves to be ripped off, call them dumb girls. LOL.

    Keep the reports coming, we are all on a journey to the promised land here, with mistakes made, experience acquired, and hopefully getting there.

  8. #3659
    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    Haha, I was thinking that this is truly bizarre too. Being tied to a post and given 20 lashes for not paying for sex. Really crazy. Even if you had done somthg underhand or malicious, I am still not sure I would condemn you. I remember countless times when a working chica has cheated me. I would simply tihnk it evens up the score a little. TBH I generally do not do mongering for charitable purposes. That is not my primary goal. Haha.
    It seems my messages to get in touch do not go through the clearance.

    I will have lunch at the boat house at around 1 pm again. I'm the guy with a red bracelet on his right wrist.

    Yes, true you are. If she was no hooker (which I strongly assume), nothing was wrong. In case she should have been a hooker: Lesson learned (or not) on her part.

    It's funny. Many people judge (badly) about those, who pay money in exchange of sex (although this was, what both had agreed upon). Some people, as we have learned here, judge those, who don't pay in exchange of sex (again, although this was, what both had agreed upon). Others try not to judge but only to observe peoples behavior.

  9. #3658
    Quote Originally Posted by Stradivari  [View Original Post]
    One lesson learned for me is: I'll never again report on a situation where I didn't pay money. It's outside the scope of this board. Cheers.
    There are people on this board who for the longest time maintained that they get it free. Hmm! Of course if you start a conversation with, I am looking for the "love of my life", in a poor country, you might wind up in a different place but most here are truthful and play no such game.

    I personally agree that there are NOT two different ways to deal with women. Finally, often times, if I do not know the person well enough, I leave money on the table, perhaps next to a candy bag for her child or a gift, so they can pick it up without losing face.

    BTW, are you a violin player?

  10. #3657
    Quote Originally Posted by Stradivari  [View Original Post]
    Hmm, interesting point of view. Is there a difference in the way you both approach hookers and other people?

    And then: Let's assume that on tinder (as in real life), there are pros, semi-pros and non pros. While for me there is no difference in my attitude to any of these groups, there is a difference in the way you negotiate about the time you are going to spend with them. That's why it is wise to figure out, if you are dealing with a pro, semi-pro or non-pro. For me, the easiest way is to ask.
    I approach everyone the same way. That is by saying, "Hello. What are you doing?" Now I am starting to drop the hello, because most chicks will only see the hello and not the following question. You have to spoon feed them and can not give them too much to process at one time. They will only say Hello back, or say I am well (something that I did not ask.) The ones that don't answer the question, I say and my question? Then they answer what question. I say look above, while I am thinking look above you dumb bich; I only said 1 sentence and you can't even figure out what question. I get excited when one answers the question that I asked. That gives me a hope they may have some modicum of intelligence. The other day online I told a chick that I started talking to in San Pedro about this. I was really excited that she actually knew how to carry a conversation. She attributed it to chicks being uneducated. (Personas sin estudios. No porque no hayan ido a la escuela o universidad,hay persona qu sencillamente no le interesa tener una buena presentacin personal). I know most guys just want a hole to stick their dick into, but I can not be around a chick for 2 seconds that does not have some type of basic intelligence.

    When a chick asks what I am looking for, I ask them what they are offering or say that depends on the woman. I have been at this for so long that I can usually separate who is what. I divide them into pro and non-pro. I do not subscribe to the semi-pro category. For me either I am paying (prostitute) or I am not (non-prostitute). Maybe if I could pay half I would call that semi-prostitute. A normal chick is not going to be showing her ass in her profile pictures. A normal chick is not going to send you a copy and pasted message saying my name is so and so and I am looking for a serious relationship. My whatsapp is xxx or do you have whatsapp. A normal chick is going to be pretty cautious and generally try to feel you out from conversation (even if briefly) before exchanging numbers. To the chicks that send that copy paste shit I say sorry, I am just looking for fun (aventura). Pretty much 100% of the time they will say well I can do that too. It does not have to be a serious relationship.

    As you also said, a very easy way is to just ask. Sometimes I will come out and ask a chick if they are a hooker. That is usually when they keep saying baby, sweetheart, love. That is fucking hooker talk. No normal chick talks like that when they are just starting a conversation with a stranger. The chicks that are not will simply say no. I then say because a lot of chicks on here keep trying to sell me pictures, or videos, or sex and ask for money. I say why would I pay for pics and videos when there are tons on the internet for free. They understand. If the chick is a hooker then they will say why do you ask that. Or they will do the hit dog will holler and act offended and run away when the jig is up.

    The ones that admit they are hookers or are up for aventura you can agree on the terms there and say okay I will contact you when I am in town. No need to chat to them everyday like you are courting them.
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  11. #3656

    Please reconsider!

    Quote Originally Posted by Stradivari  [View Original Post]
    One lesson learned for me is: I'll never again report on a situation where I didn't pay money. It's outside the scope of this board. Cheers.
    That would be unfortunate. You can see there is no consensus here even among those who criticize you, LOL. All data points are useful.

  12. #3655
    Quote Originally Posted by Stradivari  [View Original Post]
    Maybe, some here are looking through mongers glasses for too long and have forgotten the rest of the world. One lesson learned for me is: I'll never again report on a situation where I didn't pay money. It's outside the scope of this board. Cheers.
    Haha, I was thinking that this is truly bizarre too. Being tied to a post and given 20 lashes for not paying for sex. Really crazy. Even if you had done somthg underhand or malicious, I am still not sure I would condemn you. I remember countless times when a working chica has cheated me. I would simply tihnk it evens up the score a little. TBH I generally do not do mongering for charitable purposes. That is not my primary goal. Haha.

  13. #3654
    Quote Originally Posted by MrGogo  [View Original Post]
    First, a non pro would not come to Boca chica to meet a foreign stranger without a buffer. Auntie, cousin or friend would come with her for that first introduction. And she would never go to his hotel room on a first meet. A semi pro or pro would have no problem coming to BC because they expect P4P and understand the environment. Boca chica has a reputation, that's why mongers go there, no gringo goes to BC to meet a good girl for free sex. Mongers play the BFE role thinking this girl is different and really likes him. But why would a girl come to meet a old gringo with gray hair, beer belly, and nose hair to give him free sex?

    Real talk, if you aren't blonde haired, blue eyes, 6 feet tall, and have muscles don't expect free sex, pay as you go. These are the foreign guys girls put at a premium in hopes of a relationship or having a baby. Sure gringos get lucky sometimes, but she expects some generosity even if it's not spoken. If she wanted to give away pussy, mostly likely it would be with a local Dominican who can speak the language and is from the culture.

    She walked the beach, had food and drinks and wasn't even offered a tip for her extra services. If she was hardcore she would have raised hell and torn up the room until she got her money but she decided to play cool with the long game. He has not heard the last of this girl after the eviction. It's a vacation killer to have a stalker thinking the gringo fucked her over. Requests for money, chica saying you play with girls feeling, and threats with insults now come into play.

    To some, he won. Free pussy when on vacation is the trophy. To others, he violated the monger code in a monger area. Some take the risks associated with getting free pussy in a monger area, while others understand to keep it on a respectful business level.
    I understand what you are saying but I'm not sure if you are making the right guess I'm this particular situation. Maybe, some here are looking through mongers glasses for too long and have forgotten the rest of the world. One lesson learned for me is: I'll never again report on a situation where I didn't pay money. It's outside the scope of this board. Cheers.

  14. #3653
    Everybody wants money. A woman would refuse money if after having sex accepting money would make them feel like a hooker. Whether they are a prostitute or not they may not want to convey that impression, for whatever reason. They would gladly take the money under other circumstances.

  15. #3652

    The semi pro GFE vs the monger BFE

    First, a non pro would not come to Boca chica to meet a foreign stranger without a buffer. Auntie, cousin or friend would come with her for that first introduction. And she would never go to his hotel room on a first meet. A semi pro or pro would have no problem coming to BC because they expect P4P and understand the environment. Boca chica has a reputation, that's why mongers go there, no gringo goes to BC to meet a good girl for free sex. Mongers play the BFE role thinking this girl is different and really likes him. But why would a girl come to meet a old gringo with gray hair, beer belly, and nose hair to give him free sex?

    Real talk, if you aren't blonde haired, blue eyes, 6 feet tall, and have muscles don't expect free sex, pay as you go. These are the foreign guys girls put at a premium in hopes of a relationship or having a baby. Sure gringos get lucky sometimes, but she expects some generosity even if it's not spoken. If she wanted to give away pussy, mostly likely it would be with a local Dominican who can speak the language and is from the culture.

    She walked the beach, had food and drinks and wasn't even offered a tip for her extra services. If she was hardcore she would have raised hell and torn up the room until she got her money but she decided to play cool with the long game. He has not heard the last of this girl after the eviction. It's a vacation killer to have a stalker thinking the gringo fucked her over. Requests for money, chica saying you play with girls feeling, and threats with insults now come into play.

    To some, he won. Free pussy when on vacation is the trophy. To others, he violated the monger code in a monger area. Some take the risks associated with getting free pussy in a monger area, while others understand to keep it on a respectful business level.

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