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  1. #183
    FWIW this in all likelyhood was not the mamacita. The girls in these joints (the more "senior" ones anyway) rotate the job of answering the door and handling the line up and sometimes the cash. Usually everything you lay eyes on is on the menu. If the real mamacita was around you would have at most caught a glimpse of her through a door. The place on chuchio has a dude hanging around from time to time. Ironing his clothes and shit like that. Which is rare in these places. It doesn't keep me away, but for some reason I've filed it away as info that might be important. For the guy asking about exchange rate 6. 9 might be close to what you get on the street, but the girls in these places are only going to give you 6. 8. No big deal to us I know cause its just pennies. They only ***** about dollars when you need change and they don't have it though. For example if you owe 350 BS and pay with a 100 USD they might ***** about having to come up with 330 BS cash. Sometimes if its early they just won't have the BS and they have to go outside somewhere to change your benjamin while you wait. So its best to let them know you have USD only up front if that is the case. Benjamins are by far the prefered denomination. Others are frowned upon or even just not accepted. Forget about using 1's or 5's in combination with BS for example.

    Quote Originally Posted by RBoone  [View Original Post]
    I've been away from this group for a while and just realized that I did not post anything about my visit. The information regarding pricing may be a little out of date, but here goes.

    . . . I met the mamacita, an attractive woman in her mid- to late twenties wearing a tight blouse and cut off jeans.

  2. #182

    Prices on chuchillo and similar

    1500 BS for 2 girls for 2 hours full service is a decent deal for the place on Cuchillo.

    1000 BS for 1 girl for 1 hour full service is at least twice "normal" rate. Add the 250 propina and that was waaay overcompensated. I've had 2 top shelf chicas together for that (admittedly took some negotiating). The girls on Cuchillo are OK but not top shelf by any means. Enthusiastic and just OK on they eyes, but not stunners by any stretch.

    Similar place on Rio Quimore has better talent (on average day) and better pricing. 300 BS per "chica hour" for "besotherapia" (oral) would be normal as an example.

    Interestingly the girls manage time in these places more with skill than clock watching and do a pretty good job of it.

    Just info. Hope no one gets offended. Reality check on pricing is always a good thing. Hope someone keeps me from overpaying when I in unknown waters.

  3. #181
    Quote Originally Posted by RBoone  [View Original Post]
    I've been away from this group for a while and just realized that I did not post anything about my visit. The information regarding pricing may be a little out of date, but here goes.

    Walked up to the gate, rang the buzzer. "Yo quiero masaje. Tienes masajistas?" I was buzzed in. I met the mamacita, an attractive woman in her mid- to late twenties wearing a tight blouse and cut off jeans. I explained (in American high school sophomore Spanish) that it is my first time in Bolivia, first time in Sta. Cruz, and first time at Pamelita's. That brought a smile. I was offered a line-up of six girls, but when I asked if the mamacita was available she smiled and said yes! She led me upstairs, I took a shower and we both undressed. We exchanged massages, first me then her. Rubbing her pussy seemed to get her excited and a little noisy. We finished with a very satisfactory BBBJ, CIM. After that we talked, or tried to, for a bit and then I was ready to leave. Damage was BS 1000 plus propina Bs250 for the Spanish lesson.

    Sorry for late post.

    Richard.
    So if my math is right a 6.9 be to the dollar $ 1,250 be = $181 USD?

  4. #180

    Pamelita's VIP

    Quote Originally Posted by TxSnake  [View Original Post]
    Pamelita Masajes VIP is fucking awesome. I negotiated BS 1500 for two chicas for two hours with the option to choose one for BBFS. Ask for the youngest one, she is age 22. I don't want to mention her publicly by name, but want to recommend her. My visit was last week.

    Everything is on the menu. I asked about off site dates, but didn't actually do that. The same BS 1500 can get you an overnight if you care to negotiate it.
    I've been away from this group for a while and just realized that I did not post anything about my visit. The information regarding pricing may be a little out of date, but here goes.

    Walked up to the gate, rang the buzzer. "Yo quiero masaje. Tienes masajistas?" I was buzzed in. I met the mamacita, an attractive woman in her mid- to late twenties wearing a tight blouse and cut off jeans. I explained (in American high school sophomore Spanish) that it is my first time in Bolivia, first time in Sta. Cruz, and first time at Pamelita's. That brought a smile. I was offered a line-up of six girls, but when I asked if the mamacita was available she smiled and said yes! She led me upstairs, I took a shower and we both undressed. We exchanged massages, first me then her. Rubbing her pussy seemed to get her excited and a little noisy. We finished with a very satisfactory BBBJ, CIM. After that we talked, or tried to, for a bit and then I was ready to leave. Damage was BS 1000 plus propina Bs250 for the Spanish lesson.

    Sorry for late post.

    Richard.

  5. #179
    Quote Originally Posted by WorldTravel69  [View Original Post]
    I also put it on the New Map.

    Pamelita Masajes VIP, Calle Chuchio #2040, and Av. Cristo Redentor between 2 DO and 3 ER Anillo. Tel: +591 7664 2391. Hours: _ https://www.facebook.com/Pamelita-Ma...6968934124801/.
    Pamelita Masajes VIP is fucking awesome. I negotiated BS 1500 for two chicas for two hours with the option to choose one for BBFS. Ask for the youngest one, she is age 22. I don't want to mention her publicly by name, but want to recommend her. My visit was last week.

    Everything is on the menu. I asked about off site dates, but didn't actually do that. The same BS 1500 can get you an overnight if you care to negotiate it.

  6. #178

    Thanks

    Added the changes to the Map and a few others.

    Quote Originally Posted by HornyGoats  [View Original Post]
    1) Kaprichoos Club is in fact open, and it was decent when we went last week. Just stopped in for a drink and didn't session, because it was too early in the evening, and it wasn't going on yet. But lots a nice-looking chicas sitting around. (Must just be closed on Mondays?

    2) We never saw any SWs our entire time in Santa Cruz. Or La Paz for that matter. We passed the denoted areas on the map at all times of the day, and no sign of anything like that.

  7. #177

    Two Additional Points

    1) Kaprichoos Club is in fact open, and it was decent when we went last week. Just stopped in for a drink and didn't session, because it was too early in the evening, and it wasn't going on yet. But lots a nice-looking chicas sitting around. (Must just be closed on Mondays?

    2) We never saw any SWs our entire time in Santa Cruz. Or La Paz for that matter. We passed the denoted areas on the map at all times of the day, and no sign of anything like that.

  8. #176

    Santa Cruz Report #2.

    My friend joined me in Santa Cruz and we hit up a few places yesterday (Tuesday).

    After going to Guembe (a worthwhile destination), we tried two casas near the Ventura Mall. We did not find Club Privado. Exotico. But this part of town they seem to be really hidden, so we could've just missed it. Across where it was supposed to be we did find Club Privado. Hot Night. The girl running the place looked absolutely shocked to see us. After 30 minutes, she managed to get us drinks and put music on the sound system. Another 20 minutes and two unattractive girls kind of presented themselves by standing in the doorway for about 5 seconds and then leaving. We finished our drinks and then left. This was about 5 pm.

    In the evening, we first went to Luxos, which we found via a first-rate business card in our hotel. I also read TomJackin's sold report below. I don't doubt that the girls were quality when he was there, but we were disappointed. The place it too dark and too loud. Of the 8 or so girls we saw, half were straight-up 2's or 3's. Maybe some were 5's, and maybe things spice up later in the night and on the weekends, but we got the hell out of there. I noticed that Luxos has an ad in the Amazonas in-flight magazine on the way to La Paz today. Very strange.

    We went to Anaconda's on the other side of town next. This place is not for the faint of heart; extremely local and cheap and just plain cheesy. They have crazy decor and a smoke machine spewing out awful-smelling smoke and a DJ playing stupid sound effects constantly. There were maybe 10 girls, all local and young, and two were attractive and I probably would've sessioned with. But we got the distinct vibe we were not wanted; it was like we wandered into a private party. So fuck that, we left. Worth the visit for the strangeness factor alone, though.

    Lastly, we walked to Cafe Show Strip Club, where I had good luck the night before. The quality here again was solid. Things start to get going at midnight. It seems like the chicas here prefer to session outside the club rather than inside. I had two give me their numbers for my return trip to Santa Cruz next week.

  9. #175

    Two Strip Clubs in El Centro.

    I'm in town for a few days, visiting from Medellin.

    I checked out a couple of places last night (Monday), both on the map. The first was Kaprichoos Club, but it was closed. The signage was there, and it didn't look completely abandoned, so I'm not sure if it's permanently defunct or what exactly.

    The second was Cafe Show Strip Club nearby. There was no cover, drinks started at 40 be and girlie drinks were 70 B. Got to say, I was impressed by the lineup. There were chicas there from Brazil, Cuba, Paraguay, Chile, and maybe even Bolivia, haha. Wasn't expecting this at all, and the talent level was pretty high. The Chilean I spoke with quoted me US $100, but then said she'd come to my hotel during the afternoon today for 300 be. Seems like a no-brainer, they must take a hefty cut at the club.

  10. #174
    Quote Originally Posted by Tomjackin  [View Original Post]
    Why Bolivia? I've never been and I always wanted to visit the country. Why Santa Cruz? I would not survive in the highest capital in the world, La Paz! Plus, I was going to Asuncion, Paraguay, and I figured I would just hop over to Bolivia. Thus, it was a double county romp in the making.
    Great report, much appreciated. I'm based in Medellin but I'll be in Santa Cruz next month for business. Going to use this report as a guide to add pleasure to the itinerary.

  11. #173
    Quote Originally Posted by Tomjackin  [View Original Post]
    I have a personal goal of visiting every country in South America, Spanish speaking or not. I gather all the information I can to help others in our wicked community.
    Great report, Tijuana! I am sorry to see that Curry's and Caesar's have closed. I took a Brazilian out of Curry's and a Paraguyan out of Caesar's and they blew my mind. I wish I would have seen you request and told you about Los Hierros, best steakhouse I have ever been to. The steaks are great, and their Waldorf salad would have blown your mind. Don't ask me why.

    I went to La Paz and Cochabamba. You didn't miss much women wise. There were mostly Incan women, nice but not as attractive as the women of European descent in Santa Cruz IMO. I think Paraguay is the best value in SA, and Brazil has the best women. I have done most of SA as you have. Chile and Ecuador are all I have left outside of Guyana and Suriname, and I have no desire to go there.

  12. #172
    Quote Originally Posted by Rover2  [View Original Post]
    To each his own but since both Argentina and Uruguay have seen the error of their ways and have rescinded all entry / reciprocity fees I'll be damned if I'm going to pay this third world country $ 160 USD for the privilege of spending USA One to two thousand in their country for the week. I think they are losing more than me but again to each his own. No hate here and am grateful for all the excellent info provided.
    Point taken. When I went to Argentina for the first time, I had to pay for the visa. I paid for the one in Brazil because I love the women and food.

    I have a personal goal of visiting every country in South America, Spanish speaking or not. I gather all the information I can to help others in our wicked community.

    Thank you for the feedback.

  13. #171
    To each his own but since both Argentina and Uruguay have seen the error of their ways and have rescinded all entry / reciprocity fees I'll be damned if I'm going to pay this third world country $ 160 USD for the privilege of spending USA One to two thousand in their country for the week. I think they are losing more than me but again to each his own. No hate here and am grateful for all the excellent info provided.

  14. #170
    Quote Originally Posted by Tomjackin  [View Original Post]
    . Why Santa Cruz? First and foremost, I want to thank World Travel 69 for his excellent map. There was very little information that I found I was off and running the first night. The map had strip clubs and smaller clubs, kind of like casas. I mixed them both every night I was determined to gather as much information as possible. In each bar / club / venue, I asked several questions and did my No luck whatsoeverOverall thoughts on Santa Cruz: had a great stay in!
    Visiting Sta. Cruz de la Sierra ten years' ago (because it was the cheapest Bolivian city to get to) the business model in their club-type places (like zona roja in Bogota) was on site, where prying them out to your hotel room was not what they wanted to do. Interestingly, the guys working in the hotels were always asking me if I wanted chicas, and whenever I said of course, what showed up at the room was the same girls from the casas and clubs (delivered to spec)! Overall, Sta Cruz, an entirely provincial city with very little to nothing on offer once you're past the novelty aspect.

  15. #169
    Quote Originally Posted by Tomjackin  [View Original Post]
    Why Bolivia? I've never been and I always wanted to visit the country. Why Santa Cruz? I would not survive in the highest capital in the world, La Paz! Plus, I was going to Asuncion, Paraguay, and I figured I would just hop over to Bolivia. Thus, it was a double county romp in the making.
    As always Tomjackin goes above and beyond the call of duty, great report sir.

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