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  1. #1316

    Water Bottle as a Weapon

    I carry a full water bottle with me and have used it like a club (twice) to break free of muggers. Given the number of trips, length of stays, neighborhoods visited and the fact that I walk everywhere, this is not really a lot. If you come from a country where it is always safe to walk the streets regardless of time of day, you need to adjust your situational awareness. In most cases, if you stay alert you will be fine. Most important is an escape route. If you are in Copacabana on Avenida Atl‚ntica and you walk too close to the buildings, you do not have an escape route. Stay near the street. Once I was coming back from Monte Carlo and muggers surrounded me on three sides. The fourth side was the Windsor Hotel. I ducked into the hotel and called a taxi.

    There is good advice here on how to dress, not making yourself a target and securing your money and credit cards. My other advice is to limit your alcohol consumption unless you are in a controlled environment with someone who is not drinking watching your back. Walking the streets alone impaired is like wearing a sign around your neck that says rob me.

  2. #1315
    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyBoy99  [View Original Post]
    Where do you carry your passport, since it will not fit in the little pockets your sister sewed into your pants? I never carry my passport around. Too many problems if it lost or stolen. Just make a color copy of it and the visa stamp page. If I do have to take it with me for some reason, I put it in the pocket my sister sewed on the inside of the back of my pants just below the belt line (tried to attach a picture of it but was not able to). The pocket is big enough to hold the passport and lots of money and credit cards. Plus it is a lot less obvious than a money belt.
    I'm not really worried about losing my passport. I'm pretty sure I would get a new one in two or three days from my country's consulate in Sao Paulo. I keep it in the front pocket of my jeans.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xpartan  [View Original Post]
    To be honest I WOULD be worried wearing a money belt as nice as the ones on your link. Your friendly Rio mugger might be tempted to relieve your from that belt. Just because he likes the belt, LOL.
    There are 15 to 20 thousand cell phones stolen in SP every month, but I have never seen any article about stolen belts, LOL. It's possible, of course. I don't have those fancy belts with snake skin, but a simple one that looks like any other belt.

  3. #1314
    Quote Originally Posted by Nordico  [View Original Post]
    A family member, who is really good with sewing machine, made me these small pockets in my trousers. They are somewhat larger than a credit card and secured with velcro. I can put two or three credit cards and 6-7 bills in it. Then I have my Bullhide money belts, which are not cheap, but the quality is excellent. https://www.bullhidebelts.com/collections/money-belts.

    I always carry my passport with me.
    Where do you carry your passport, since it will not fit in the little pockets your sister sewed into your pants? I never carry my passport around. Too many problems if it lost or stolen. Just make a color copy of it and the visa stamp page. If I do have to take it with me for some reason, I put it in the pocket my sister sewed on the inside of the back of my pants just below the belt line (tried to attach a picture of it but was not able to). The pocket is big enough to hold the passport and lots of money and credit cards. Plus it is a lot less obvious than a money belt.

  4. #1313
    Quote Originally Posted by RioBob  [View Original Post]
    https://www.clothingarts.com/collect...et_proof_pants

    I have a couple of pairs of these pants. I usually wear them when I'm traveling because everything is secure on me so and I have no worries.
    Nice-looking pants. I never had any problems with pickpocketing but I'm sure those pants works well in normal situations. However I would never wear pants like that in very crowded situations, E. G Carnival in Salvador, Cordao Bola Preta in Rio. In those situations, more pockets means more thieves interested in emptying your pockets.

    For newbies in Copacabana their main problem isn't pickpocketing, it's getting robbed. Extra buttons om your pockets won't help. I prefer to put large bills in a small pouch, attached with a string to my underwear, and stuck the pouch inside the underwear. Small bills in a mini-wallet. The less I have in my wallets the safer I feel.

  5. #1312
    Quote Originally Posted by Nordico  [View Original Post]
    Actually it's only the belt and the pocket in my trousers. I usually bring 3000 euros with me and having the belt I don't have to worry about my wallet and those 60 bills wouldn't even fit there. The second reason is that carrying BRL1000 or more in cash in your wallet is not smart in Brazil. Most of the time I stay in Moema or Jardins, which are relatively safe, but sometimes I go to Bela Vista or Centro and there is always a possibility that someone wants your money. Losing a credit card abroad can ruin your trip. Next month Im going to stay in Copacabana and its not always safe at night time.
    To be honest I WOULD be worried wearing a money belt as nice as the ones on your link. Your friendly Rio mugger might be tempted to relieve your from that belt. Just because he likes the belt, LOL.

  6. #1311
    Quote Originally Posted by Nordico  [View Original Post]
    Actually it's only the belt and the pocket in my trousers. I usually bring 3000 euros with me and having the belt I don't have to worry about my wallet and those 60 bills wouldn't even fit there. The second reason is that carrying BRL1000 or more in cash in your wallet is not smart in Brazil. Most of the time I stay in Moema or Jardins, which are relatively safe, but sometimes I go to Bela Vista or Centro and there is always a possibility that someone wants your money. Losing a credit card abroad can ruin your trip. Next month Im going to stay in Copacabana and its not always safe at night time.
    https://www.clothingarts.com/collect...et_proof_pants

    I have a couple of pairs of these pants. I usually wear them when I'm traveling because everything is secure on me so and I have no worries.

  7. #1310
    Quote Originally Posted by Jny88  [View Original Post]
    Why so many hidden compartments? Is Brazil that dangerous? Not trying to be funny, I've never been there but highly interested because the women are beautiful.
    Actually it's only the belt and the pocket in my trousers. I usually bring 3000 euros with me and having the belt I don't have to worry about my wallet and those 60 bills wouldn't even fit there. The second reason is that carrying BRL1000 or more in cash in your wallet is not smart in Brazil. Most of the time I stay in Moema or Jardins, which are relatively safe, but sometimes I go to Bela Vista or Centro and there is always a possibility that someone wants your money. Losing a credit card abroad can ruin your trip. Next month Iím going to stay in Copacabana and itís not always safe at night time.

  8. #1309

    Passport Book vs. Passport Card

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    What did you do when you lost your passport card? I lost mine in May.
    Passport Book and Passport Card are two different forms of ID. Both can be ordered at the same time but are not tied to each other. Loss of one does not cancel the other. Passport Card can be used as a form of ID when traveling however it's primary purpose is for crossing land border Mexico / Canada and Sea Ports-of-Entry from the Caribbean / Bermuda only. https://travel.state.gov/content/tra...port/card.html

    Due to its credit card size I use Passport Card for ID purposes for all international travel. I tend to find it easier to carry than a laminated copy of Passport Book Page, plus it is an official form of ID.

    Since both are not tied to each other if one is loss you can use the other to facilitate acquiring a replacement if necessary. Reporting your passport lost or stolen does not automatically replace your passport. You will need to follow the directions to Replace a Passport https://travel.state.gov/content/tra...st-stolen.html

  9. #1308
    Quote Originally Posted by Nordico  [View Original Post]
    A family member, who is really good with sewing machine, made me these small pockets in my trousers. They are somewhat larger than a credit card and secured with velcro. I can put two or three credit cards and 6-7 bills in it. Then I have my Bullhide money belts, which are not cheap, but the quality is excellent. https://www.bullhidebelts.com/collections/money-belts.

    I always carry my passport with me.
    Why so many hidden compartments? Is Brazil that dangerous? Not trying to be funny, I've never been there but highly interested because the women are beautiful.

  10. #1307

    Just reported it.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    What did you do when you lost your passport card? I lost mine in May. I know I left it with the lady when I applied for Precheck, but she said it was not there. The website is not clear. It seems like I may be canceling my passport and card when I am just trying to cancel the card and get a new one. I filled out everything online but short of pressing enter I did not want to take that risk and said fuck it.
    I reported it like the State Dept suggests but never heard back. I know my reporting didn't cancel my passport (never even occurred to me to check) because I've used it several times for travel after that.

  11. #1306
    Quote Originally Posted by ManchesterLad1  [View Original Post]
    I do not enjoy too many aggressive vendors like I experienced in Cartagena Colombia so I would like to avoid that if possible.
    I can only answer this part. The beaches have vendors, but not nearly as aggressive as the relentless ones in Cartagena! Thus, I did not have any issues with the Copa beach vendors.

  12. #1305
    Quote Originally Posted by Xpartan  [View Original Post]
    You can order a passport card for like $30, and if you lose it you lose it, no biggie. My wallet with a passport card was stolen in Sosua once, but I still had my passport.
    What did you do when you lost your passport card? I lost mine in May. I know I left it with the lady when I applied for Precheck, but she said it was not there. The website is not clear. It seems like I may be canceling my passport and card when I am just trying to cancel the card and get a new one. I filled out everything online but short of pressing enter I did not want to take that risk and said fuck it.

  13. #1304
    Quote Originally Posted by PapiMuyRico  [View Original Post]
    Second, when you move around, how you protect your money? You carry a wallet? You put your money on your shoes? You carry a credit card as an emergency back up? Where do you put it?

    What do you carry as an ID?
    A family member, who is really good with sewing machine, made me these small pockets in my trousers. They are somewhat larger than a credit card and secured with velcro. I can put two or three credit cards and 6-7 bills in it. Then I have my Bullhide money belts, which are not cheap, but the quality is excellent. https://www.bullhidebelts.com/collections/money-belts.

    I always carry my passport with me.
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  14. #1303

    I'm not in Rio, but a few thoughts

    Quote Originally Posted by PapiMuyRico  [View Original Post]
    Good morning gentlemen. I want to raise a couple issues about safety and money matters while in Brasil.
    You can order a passport card for like $30, and if you lose it you lose it, no biggie. My wallet with a passport card was stolen in Sosua once, but I still had my passport.

    For safety purposes in Rio, I carried about $30-40 in reals and one credit card. When I'm on the hunt, I take more, but not more than I might actually need. Never had a problem but if I did, I'd just hand them to them. Get a cheap phone too and leave you iPhone in your hotel room.

    Uber is fine, but are they more secure than official cabs? I doubt it.

    On arrival, I wouldn't carry anything valuable in a suitcase that I put in the trunk. All my money and valuables are with me inside the cab. And I try to take as little cash with me as possible (Schwab for ATMs).

    A hotel safe is not 100% safe. But a thief with a master key is unlikely to steal everything. They might steal one bill rather than the whole wad hoping you won't notice. Last thing they want is a pissed off gringo.

    And you don't need a visa to Brazil anymore.

    HIH.

  15. #1302

    Best beach in Rio

    Best beach in Rio to swim and not get annoyed by too many vendors.

    Clean water and beach obviously.

    I do not enjoy too many aggressive vendors like I experienced in Cartagena Colombia so I would like to avoid that if possible.

    Is all above possible in Rio?

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