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  1. #5245
    Quote Originally Posted by Questner  [View Original Post]
    I find this information to be accurate. Always ask yourself what would you offer if it's not too late if you find yourself in a precarious situation.

    Avoid all travel to the following areas due to the risk of kidnapping and violent crime posed by the presence of illegal armed groups and other criminal organizations:

    The area within 20 km of the border with Venezuela.

    The area within 20 km of the border with Panama.

    The area within 20 km of the border with Ecuador.

    The ports of Buenaventura and Tumaco.

    Avoid non-essential travel to the following departments due to drug-related criminal activity by illegal armed groups and other criminal organizations:

    Antioquia (excluding the cities of Carmen de Viboral, Medellin and Rionegro, the Jos Mara Cordova International Airport and the road to this airport).

    Arauca.

    Caqueta.

    Cauca (excluding Popoyan).

    Choco (excluding the capital, Quibdo, and the whale-watching towns of Bania Solano, Capurgan and Nuqu).

    Cordoba (excluding the capital, Montera).

    Guainia.

    Guaviare.

    Meta (excluding the capital, Villavicencio).

    Narino (excluding the capital, Pasto).

    Norte de Santander.

    Putumayo.

    Tolima (excluding the city of Ibague).

    Valle del Cauca (excluding the capital, Cali).

    Vichada.

    If you intend to travel to the any of the above excluded areas, do so by air. Exercise a high degree of caution at all times.
    Meta and Tolima are generally fine, except for southwestern Meta and southeastern Tolima. You can also still go to Cao Cristales if you fly in and out. Antioquia is also totally fine excluding the coastal areas like Turbo and Necoclí.

  2. #5244

    Worrisome.

    I am currently in Cucuta now. This is quite disturbing to me, as I was planning to take a bus from Cucuta to bucaramanga and stop in Pamplona along the way. Is this sufficient cause to change my plans? Either the destination or the mode of transport? Any advice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bleble  [View Original Post]
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-49508411

    How concerning should I be for my visit early Nov. Due to this new development?

  3. #5243
    Quote Originally Posted by Questner  [View Original Post]
    This is a disrespectful post. Not only it is a disservice to board members, but a cowardly writing of a lowlife hiding behind a so called anonymity of posting on a social network.
    Sorry, I actually thought it was supposed to be a comical / spoof post. It seemed like the list a hysterical mother would say to a kid before they departed for summer camp. I wasn't trying to dis you. I honestly thought it was a joke post and wanted to help it along. With regards to FARC, my principal objection to them (as I previously said about Sendero) is that they have no coherent ideology. They are simply nihilists.

    I am a a weak, old man now, and was never brave even when I was young (especially at night). I am a Spanish speaker, and did have the misfortune of working abroad for our government for eight years in the 70's, often in troubled areas. I've met many of the type (broke / deluded / desperate...and with guns!) and ran over one of them once with my Land Rover.

    So, I wasn't trying to p!ss you off, or doubt you or anything. I agree, there are a lot of dangers out there and, personally, I don't want to go anywhere where I might get beat up, robbed, arrested or killed. Point is, I obviously don't want to go to Yemen, Libya or the more remote regions of Norte de Santander or Boyaca (I have been gratified to read that the Federal Police seem to be working on busting some of the douchebags: https://www.eltiempo.com/colombia/ot...ntander-407284).

    I was interested in going to Cucuta this fall, but am less likely to do so now. Less because of a potential resurgence of FARC and more because of reports like Kazeu's:

    http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...84-Other-Areas

  4. #5242
    Safety is rule number 1 of this hobby. Unfortunately I have to post this rule as a reminder to all dumb fucks who never pulled a trigger in their lives or stepped a step into jungle. 'there are some OLD pilots and some BOLD pilots, but very very few OLD, BOLD, PILOTS'.

  5. #5241
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnClayton  [View Original Post]
    WTF is with those asshats? Here's a weird / fcked up thing that happened last week:

    https://www.elespectador.com/colombi...rticulo-877806

    The two places I wanted to go this winter were Cucuta and Cali (and maybe a drive down to Buenaventura). F!ck those FARC douchebags.
    If you are so brave, meet them in person and argue your position face to face.

  6. #5240
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnClayton  [View Original Post]
    And always smear yourself with vaseline at night and sleep in a zip lock bag filled with cotton wool. Don't answer the door. Wipe twice, polish three times.
    This is a disrespectful post. Not only it is a disservice to board members, but a cowardly writing of a lowlife hiding behind a so called anonymity of posting on a social network.

  7. #5239
    Quote Originally Posted by Questner  [View Original Post]
    Always ask yourself what would you offer if it's not too late if you find yourself in a precarious situation...

    Avoid all travel to the following areas due to the risk of kidnapping and violent crime posed by the presence of illegal armed groups and other criminal organizations:

    ...at all times.
    And always smear yourself with vaseline at night and sleep in a zip lock bag filled with cotton wool. Don't answer the door. Wipe twice, polish three times.

  8. #5238
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    I thought that, but when I was in Cali last month 2 of my chicks tried to take me there to see the whales. They said it was perfectly fine. They also had the pamphlet about the whales in the hotel lobby.
    I've been there. It sucks for our hobby and it's a very gloomy city with no nice areas like those that exist in MDE, Cali, etc. Unless you're really into whale-watching or fishing, I wouldn't go.

  9. #5237
    I find this information to be accurate. Always ask yourself what would you offer if it's not too late if you find yourself in a precarious situation.

    Avoid all travel to the following areas due to the risk of kidnapping and violent crime posed by the presence of illegal armed groups and other criminal organizations:

    The area within 20 km of the border with Venezuela.

    The area within 20 km of the border with Panama.

    The area within 20 km of the border with Ecuador.

    The ports of Buenaventura and Tumaco.

    Avoid non-essential travel to the following departments due to drug-related criminal activity by illegal armed groups and other criminal organizations:

    Antioquia (excluding the cities of Carmen de Viboral, Medellin and Rionegro, the Jos Mara Cordova International Airport and the road to this airport).

    Arauca.

    Caqueta.

    Cauca (excluding Popoyan).

    Choco (excluding the capital, Quibdo, and the whale-watching towns of Bania Solano, Capurgan and Nuqu).

    Cordoba (excluding the capital, Montera).

    Guainia.

    Guaviare.

    Meta (excluding the capital, Villavicencio).

    Narino (excluding the capital, Pasto).

    Norte de Santander.

    Putumayo.

    Tolima (excluding the city of Ibague).

    Valle del Cauca (excluding the capital, Cali).

    Vichada.

    If you intend to travel to the any of the above excluded areas, do so by air. Exercise a high degree of caution at all times.

  10. #5236
    Quote Originally Posted by Bleble  [View Original Post]
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-49508411

    How concerning should I be for my visit early Nov. Due to this new development?
    It all depends on what you're planning on doing. It could be a problem if:

    1. You plan on arguing loudly, in public, with Colombians, either for or against FARC.

    2. You plan on attempting to purchase a few tons of coke.

    3. You plan on exploring the remote areas of Colombia without qualified guides.

    Of course these things were all problems before this recent development, so from the typical tourist perspective nothing has changed.

    A civil war that spanned 2 generations doesn't disappear overnight. The US Civil War only lasted 4 years and 155 years later people are still waving the losing flag.

  11. #5235
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnClayton  [View Original Post]
    WTF is with those asshats? Here's a weird / fcked up thing that happened last week:

    https://www.elespectador.com/colombi...rticulo-877806

    The two places I wanted to go this winter were Cucuta and Cali (and maybe a drive down to Buenaventura). F!ck those FARC douchebags.
    No need to not go to those places, at least up to this moment.

    The places to avoid in Colombia are remote rural areas with nothing to offer anyways.

  12. #5234
    Quote Originally Posted by Questner  [View Original Post]
    Nothing new. Norte de Santander (as with respect to this article) is a no go area; Buenaventura port is a no go area.
    WTF is with those asshats? Here's a weird / fcked up thing that happened last week:

    https://www.elespectador.com/colombi...rticulo-877806

    The two places I wanted to go this winter were Cucuta and Cali (and maybe a drive down to Buenaventura). F!ck those FARC douchebags.

  13. #5233
    Quote Originally Posted by Bleble  [View Original Post]
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-49508411

    How concerning should I be for my visit early Nov. Due to this new development?
    Nothing new. Norte de Santander (as with respect to this article) is a no go area; Buenaventura port is a no go area.

  14. #5232
    Quote Originally Posted by Combo  [View Original Post]
    And I wouldn't visit Buenaventura
    I thought that, but when I was in Cali last month 2 of my chicks tried to take me there to see the whales. They said it was perfectly fine. They also had the pamphlet about the whales in the hotel lobby.

  15. #5231
    Quote Originally Posted by Bleble  [View Original Post]
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-49508411

    How concerning should I be for my visit early Nov. Due to this new development?
    Without further adverse developments, I wouldn't worry too much. FARC was in a war with the government until three years ago. But for 10 years before the peace agreement, parts of the country (the parts you're likely visiting) were mostly safe from violence. Now if you're traveling into the jungle, that's a different story. And I wouldn't visit Buenaventura or north of there in the Choco region. But if you're hanging in a decent neighborhood of Bogota, Medellin, Cali, etc and you exercise common sense precaution, you should be OK.

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