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  1. #6249

    Airport insanity

    I am posting this in the Colombia section because air travel is read more here, and it is the first time I have travelled with the new USA restrictions on testing.

    So I meet my Colombian gal in Cancun, and the shootings there have done absolutely nothing to slow people down. The Cancun airport is busier now than I have seen it in years. We are back to pre-Covid levels.

    Spirit told me the lines were long and to get to the airport 3 hours early. I just needed a boarding pass as I was carrying on, and they would not let me get it online. I tried the computer terminal and it would not work and now I was stuck in this God awful long line at check-in. I thought I would miss my flight, but I then checked the Spirit Airlines app on my phone and I saw a boarding pass there (Thank God) and then went to security. I have been able to check in online internationally with United no problem but have had shitty luck with the other airlines.

    So even though I had my boarding pass, I figured that they would check my passport and Covid test at the gate, and they did. What surprised me is that even though I got my test done within 24 hours of departure, the Spirit employee insisted on seeing my vaccine card. I showed her a photo of the card that I was on my phone at the gate, and she was happy and all was well.

    So we can debate the vaccine card but the airlines have IMO been unfairly burdened with this vaccine crap, and I think they are worried and can be fined for letting people into the country who do not have the test or do not have a vaccine card. So you may be in a position where you have a choice between being vaccinated and not travelling. It has never been like this before.

    I am wondering if the people using fake cards are going to be caught because the federal government is recording who has been vaccinated and who has not been. It seems like it would be super easy to catch people using fake cards. As of now, I just had to show the test and the card, so it would be possible to fake both, but I just do not know how long that is going to last.

    I will say the social distancing rules have gotten stupid. In the photo, you can see how crowded things were. The seats were interesting. Every other seat is forbidden to be used because of social distancing. As you can see, two women are sitting next to each other, breaking the rules.

    It is not in the photo but if you were to look past them, there were empty seats marked off as not in use due to social distancing and there were people standing cramped next to each other.

    This social distancing crap is not working anymore. If you made people do that, the lines would have been out of the terminal. Cancun has gone from one terminal open now to three, and they are all packed.

    I got through Mexican customs in an hour. It took her two. When she got back to Bogota, once again, she was in line for 2 hours. In the USA, customs lines were the same this time for me.

    But things have changed and IMO they have changed now for the worst.
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  2. #6248
    Quote Originally Posted by Combo  [View Original Post]
    Anyone test positive for Covid when leaving Colombia? That is sort of my nightmare for my upcoming trip. For my job as well as family holiday obligations, I can't really afford to be quarantined in Colombian an extra two weeks. I'm only going for a week, so it seems likely that if I pick it up while there, I might not even test positive until I'm already home. Especially since I'm vaccinated, I can do the test three days before departing so I plan on getting the test Wednesday for my Saturday flight back to the US.

    I recall JBee saying he tested positive while there. Anyone else? Thoughts?
    I was vaccinated in May. Exposed at the end of July and tested positive in less than 48 hours after exposure. My case was very mild. Just wanted to point out you can test positive very quickly.

  3. #6247
    Quote Originally Posted by Combo  [View Original Post]
    Anyone test positive for Covid when leaving Colombia? That is sort of my nightmare for my upcoming trip. For my job as well as family holiday obligations, I can't really afford to be quarantined in Colombian an extra two weeks.
    I recall JBee saying he tested positive while there. Anyone else? Thoughts?
    Its a risk that you have to balance and accept if you want to travel. If you can't "afford" 2 weeks, then why not take out insurance against it? If you were vaxd recently, the efficacy of the vax would be far superior than if you wer vaxd say 5 months ago. Also if your healthy you can help prevent contracting it. It seems you know all this already.

    Well, welcome to the new dystopian future!

  4. #6246
    Quote Originally Posted by Combo  [View Original Post]
    The vaccines are only 90-95% effective, so you can definitely still get it. FWIW I'm not that worried about Covid itself -- I'm in good shape and not that old.
    I am not surprised you are not worried if you think the vax is 90-95% effective. Haha. Which glossy pharma brochure did you find that stat in?

  5. #6245
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    If you are vaccinated why worry? I am not vaccinated and have been to Colombia like 6 times this year and nothing. Last time I was there I went and took an antibody test figuring maybe I had it before and did not know it. But nope; it was negative.
    The vaccines are only 90-95% effective, so you can definitely still get it. FWIW I'm not that worried about Covid itself -- I'm in good shape and not that old. But I am worried about a positive test keeping me quarantined in Colombia and missing two weeks of work and having to tell my boss I'm stuck in Colombia.

  6. #6244
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    If you are vaccinated why worry?
    The vaccines do not prevent you from getting Covid-19, they prevent you from being placed on a respirator or in a grave (according to medical authorities).

  7. #6243

    Covid Testing

    Quote Originally Posted by Combo  [View Original Post]
    Anyone test positive for Covid when leaving Colombia? That is sort of my nightmare for my upcoming trip. For my job as well as family holiday obligations, I can't really afford to be quarantined in Colombian an extra two weeks.
    To return to US without a Covid test, all you have to do is fly to a Mexican border city and cross into US by vehicle or foot and continue to your destination. Mexico does not require a Covid test to enter neither flying nor by land, and US does not require test when entering by land. Tijuana is ideal since you gain easy entrance to US from the airport via CrossBorderXpress exclusive to air passengers who land in Tijuana airport (I don't know if other border cities have similar crossing). Just make sure you go the right way after unboaring plane, once I took a wrong turn, missed CrossBorderXpress, went into the general area and was not permited re-entry to access CrossBorderExpress and had to go to the regular crossing, took a brutal three hours.

  8. #6242

    Real PITA

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicIsLove  [View Original Post]
    Avianca wouldn't let me in line to check in at JFK without filling out the ChkMig app. Do it 48 hours before your flight. Doing it at the airport is a PITA.
    JetBlue got me with that on my first trip this year. Completely blindsided by it when going to check a bag and they said we cannot check a bag without showing the form was completed. Then they gave us the form in Spanish. SMH.

    By the time the second trip came around I have it all filled out in the 48 hour window and breezed through security and bag drop.

    Ill be landing tomorrow for the third trip. Check MIG already filled out and I'm looking forward to landing and breezing through security.

    As I've said before, you don't want to be that person at the airport trying to do it last minute jajaja.

  9. #6241
    Quote Originally Posted by Combo  [View Original Post]
    Anyone test positive for Covid when leaving Colombia? That is sort of my nightmare for my upcoming trip. For my job as well as family holiday obligations, I can't really afford to be quarantined in Colombian an extra two weeks. I'm only going for a week, so it seems likely that if I pick it up while there, I might not even test positive until I'm already home. Especially since I'm vaccinated
    If you are vaccinated why worry? I am not vaccinated and have been to Colombia like 6 times this year and nothing. Last time I was there I went and took an antibody test figuring maybe I had it before and did not know it. But nope; it was negative.

  10. #6240
    Anyone test positive for Covid when leaving Colombia? That is sort of my nightmare for my upcoming trip. For my job as well as family holiday obligations, I can't really afford to be quarantined in Colombian an extra two weeks. I'm only going for a week, so it seems likely that if I pick it up while there, I might not even test positive until I'm already home. Especially since I'm vaccinated, I can do the test three days before departing so I plan on getting the test Wednesday for my Saturday flight back to the US.

    I recall JBee saying he tested positive while there. Anyone else? Thoughts?

  11. #6239
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    My phone's data connection works great, except when I really need it.
    Haha that's always the case!

  12. #6238
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    My buddy said I got lucky. He said he was asked for it last week. Other people here have reported not being asked for it as well. So again like you said, better to have it and not need it. Only takes 2 minutes to fill out.
    Avianca wouldn't let me in line to check in at JFK without filling out the ChkMig app. Do it 48 hours before your flight. Doing it at the airport is a PITA.

  13. #6237
    Quote Originally Posted by Balboa  [View Original Post]
    Interesting, I've been asked by the airline agents each time I've exited Colombia.
    My buddy said I got lucky. He said he was asked for it last week. Other people here have reported not being asked for it as well. So again like you said, better to have it and not need it. Only takes 2 minutes to fill out.

  14. #6236
    Quote Originally Posted by Balboa  [View Original Post]
    Interesting, I've been asked by the airline agents each time I've exited Colombia.

    You're probably right, you'll most likely be ok without it, until the one time they ask for it, then you'll have to do it real quick.

    Obviously do what you want, however, since it's technically required, I just get it done, and not worry about surprises.

    I wouldn't post that it's not required though, because it actually is, just not enforced much it seems in your experience.
    Plus it only takes 2 minutes and you can do it up to 48 hours in advance. I'd rather spend 2 minutes filling out a form I might not be asked for than to deal with the possibility I will have problems filling it out if I am asked. My phone's data connection works great, except when I really need it.

  15. #6235
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Yes there has always been an exit option on the website / app, but nobody ever asks for it on exit. It is only needed when entering the country. I made sure NOT to fill it out the week before last on exit just to be sure.
    Interesting, I've been asked by the airline agents each time I've exited Colombia.

    You're probably right, you'll most likely be ok without it, until the one time they ask for it, then you'll have to do it real quick.

    Obviously do what you want, however, since it's technically required, I just get it done, and not worry about surprises.

    I wouldn't post that it's not required though, because it actually is, just not enforced much it seems in your experience.

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