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  1. #12447
    Quote Originally Posted by TalkYes  [View Original Post]
    We're interested in the quality of the girls, not the pavement. If you dislike tattoos and skimpy outfits that much, you are in the wrong neighborhood and perhaps the wrong lifestyle. Let's try to be a bit more objective in our appraisals and leave the bitter cynicism of old age out of it, so that others can have better information to use to plan their trips. When I was there there were a lot of ugly fat chicks but there were also quite a few hot ones. I don't care about the ratio of ugly to hot as long as there are some good options. It's like going to a buffet and getting pissed off about all the food you don't like instead of just finding something you do like. You said you saw one you liked, you should have just banged her and let everything else go. I'm sorry for being a dick but I just have no patience for "traditional values" on a goddamn hooker forum. Soy cowboy may be relatively clean (is it actually though?)
    TY, it seems like I have paid more per session than most ISGers have, and Miami Boy said in the Medellin forum that you get what you pay for, and I was like, "Wait, what do you mean by that?" For me, the notion that you are paying for better pussy or oral outside of Santa Fe is a myth, so you are not getting more for your money there.

    That said, I did find it worthwhile to pay the girl money to leave Santa Fe and head to my hotel. Hell, Hotel Ibis, which has rooms like Motel 6, was an upgrade over the hotels / rooms in Santa Fe. So that was worth the money for me.

    And I agree the atmosphere of Santa Fe is not for everyone. I would not object if someone called it a shithole. Thing is no one has a gun to your head and says that you cannot find a woman there and pay her to leave, and you are talking like $25 or $30 versus 15.

    When I first went to Colombia, I went to the Northern strip clubs, and I was underwhelmed. The women may have been a little more classy and a little better looking on average than Santa Fe but I was paying like 10 to 15 X what guys pay in Santa Fe and was not having any experiences I considered memorable. That is why I blew off Colombia for years.

    With Santa Fe, you can get laid by some very attractive, good performing women for $10 or even less a pop. If you are complaining about that, something is not right with you.

  2. #12446

    Choosing the Right Girl is Key

    Quote Originally Posted by QualitySmut  [View Original Post]
    The important part for me is the face fucking part. I'm trying to understand you method a bit more. I want to fuck some faces and take some girls breath away with a good gag. I'm usually the type to stray from this out of fear of ruining the atmosphere if the girl didn't like it, risking ruining the session and wasting money. I'm trying to understand how do you go about this? Do you negotiate this before hand? Do you go for it with no regard for the consequence since the potential financial loss is lower?

    I would gladly pay extra for this. I planned to try and negotiate this, but after reading up on you adventures a bit it seems like you just go for it.

    Also if you feel like the extra typing I'd love to read any other strip club stories you got. I'm interested in what I can expect while still on the floor. Are there any kisses, hjs or anything like that. I guess I enjoy the rush from PDA and strip clubs can be a great paid source of that. When I say PDA its not the lovey dove stuff. Its more like public foreplay. I know I can get just go and fuck them but I can do that at a casa or with a SG. In the strip club doing something note worthy on the floor even something minor would greatly enhance the value of the strip club for me.
    What works for me is be flirty and gregarious--I act like you're the king and am confident.

    I always try to vette a girls attitude to get clues as to what to expect-- I will chat a bit and see how she reacts to being felt up. (Yes, I touch without permission-- Quick call the feminists- LOL).

    Of course you can get fooled by girls that act one way and another in the room-- You have to try to detect be-S-- and that is not too hard if you are paying attention to the reactions.

    Recently I really liked this one girl and I was not able to FF her very good-- in any case we got into quatro and I was banging her and slapped her ass and she got pissed, got up and walked out-- LOL.

    Face banging a girl is a delicate situation-- As I said I usually will jump up on the bed have the girl sitting and let her start. At that point I will start touching her head and pushing a bit and see how that is-- I will go for a good gag and I'm always watching how she reacts and when she gags (I love a girl that gags and smiles) I will jokingly say 'Que pena you soy malo' and ' me gusta tu boca, muy Linda' and 'Tengo muchas ratos porti' Most girls I pick usually are fine with this and seem to be into it-- and then I know what to expect for future sessions.

    I love the clubs, walking up to girls and dirty dancing with them. -- this a great way to vette girls. I do it all the time. In Venus club they sometimes will have a guy come up and bang the stripper on stage. I love the specticle of a club full of girls, 2-3 strippers on stage and 5-6 naked girls doing lapdances-- that is the best.

  3. #12445
    Quote Originally Posted by TalkYes  [View Original Post]
    I don't care about the ratio of ugly to hot as long as there are some good options. You said you saw one you liked, you should have just banged her and let everything else go. I'm sorry for being a dick but I just have no patience for "traditional values" on a goddamn hooker forum.
    I am always wondering how many chicks someone planned to fuck if they are complaining about the ugly ones, because I just look right past them. Does not concern me. Not wasting my energy on it. As far as I am concerned it makes my choice easier when there are only a few that appeal to me. I honestly do not need 10 good ones to choose from if I am only going to fuck 1 or 2.

  4. #12444
    Quote Originally Posted by LoneRangers  [View Original Post]
    I usually stay about 5 or 10 minutes north of Santa fe in La Macarena, or technically in the district just northwest of it (international / financial area)...
    I agree with this. Especially if you could find an Airbnb on Kr 4 a -- very pleasant area with a lot of good restaurants / coffee / beer. That area is close to where I stayed = very convenient. Unfortuantely, I haven't sussed out how to get the exact address for an Airbnb before renting, and although the "Equiibrium" tower (directly on Kr 7 at calle 31) had a lap pool and a jacuzzi, it was kind of otherwise alienating and cold. A dozen good / authentic restaurants on calle 30 up the hill from La Septima; although, I think they may be just day time only. I walked up there with my veneca on Sunday about 7 -- all closed. Maybe that street is a few blocks north of La Macarena. Technically, I think La Macarena is completely within Santa Fe.

  5. #12443
    Quote Originally Posted by TalkYes  [View Original Post]
    ... If you dislike tattoos and skimpy outfits that much, you are in the wrong neighborhood and perhaps the wrong lifestyle...
    Okay, shoulda' said "IMO" or "de gustibus non est disputandum". Whatever. Not for me.

  6. #12442
    Quote Originally Posted by Gabacho  [View Original Post]
    The way the taxi meters work in Bogota is that it registers a number (not the amount of money) when you get in the taxi and for each km the numbers go up and there should be a placard or sign in the taxi showing a table with the numbers and the corresponding prices, although they don't always have the sign. Anyways when I take a taxi from the airport to my hotel in Santa Fe the number usually is about 150 and that correlates to about $20 k COP.

    Hope this helps.
    I thought I might have paid the gringo tax but I think it is about right based on this benchmark. My meter always read between 330 to 350 and I always had to pay around 45 mil. I thought it is something they jack up because I am a gringo, but maybe not so much the case.

  7. #12441
    Yeah, I'm staying closer to B3 virrey. I guess I could stay further in Chapinero.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    You know there are different parts of Chapinero right? For a 30 minute drive you must be staying at a part much farther from Santa Fe because they are actually right next to each other.

  8. #12440
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnClayton  [View Original Post]
    the taximetro and it said something like 77, so I pulled out $80 k thinking 'oh well that's like $17 US or something, and the taxista (amazingly honest) would say (shocked), "No! What are you doing. It's seven, Seven! (i.e., $1.70 US) " -- meaning I stupidly (on more than one occasion) tried to pay the guy 10 X too much and the honest taxista, who could have easily taken the money and driven off, saved me from my own stupidity.
    The way the taxi meters work in Bogota is that it registers a number (not the amount of money) when you get in the taxi and for each km the numbers go up and there should be a placard or sign in the taxi showing a table with the numbers and the corresponding prices, although they don't always have the sign. Anyways when I take a taxi from the airport to my hotel in Santa Fe the number usually is about 150 and that correlates to about $20 k COP.

    Hope this helps.

  9. #12439

    Macarena district / financial district

    Quote Originally Posted by Jrealyo  [View Original Post]
    Been to Bogota plenty of times and always stayed in Chapinero but need a central location between Chapinero and Santa fe. I like the casas in Chapinero
    but the nightlife of Santa fe. Maybe a place 15 minutes away from both. That 30 min drive from Chapinero is still a killer for me with the altitude. Headaches, etc. By the time I get to Santa fe, i feel like I have vertigo, lol. Car shaking and streets going up and down.

    Any suggestions for a Airbnb or guest friendly hotel would be nice thanks.
    I usually stay about 5 or 10 minutes north of Santa fe in La Macarena, or technically in the district just northwest of it (international / financial area). Less crime, more police presence and lots of good dining options within walking distance or short Rappi. Checkout Lyra Cafe for breakfast or Restaurante Republik for dinner.

    My last two airbnbs were excellent checkout.

    Museo Building. Cusezar or Equilibrium on Google maps, both have pools which is relatively uncommon for the area.

    Chapinero is still a bit of a drive but I found it difficult at times to get the Sante fe streetwalkers to agree to come back to my place unless it's near the Barrio. So Macarena has been close enough they don't freak out when I explain where it is.

  10. #12438

    Oh Yeah.

    Quote Originally Posted by QualitySmut  [View Original Post]
    I appreciate the advice. The internet at large would have me believe that Colombia is as bad a dangerous place. I have been having a hard time understanding why local gangs and such would target gringos so hard. This would ultimately lower the people that visit. For a country with so many of its poor people relying on tourism that seems dumb. It make far more sense for them to be in charge of the brothels or charge them for protection and things like that. Anything besides systemically scaring off as many gringos as possible by robbing them.

    In your advice do you think going to prepagos house is also relatively safe? It seems it may be fun to had on that front, but I've previously disregarded the idea due to the perceived risk factors.
    Been in mult apts in Bog and other places in Col and never an issue. You know what? At first I had that same little gut feeling you got, like will I be safe in someone private apt, what if I'm robbed etc. Then after few visits I notice they actually focus on business and making money, and all just as safe as a brothel, except more comfortable and nicer rooms w actual ac some of them. Now, you will be cat-fished few times meaning some girls post fake pics on photoprepago and mileroticos obviously LOL. Other than that you'll be fine hombre.

  11. #12437

    First Rodeo in LatAm

    Hi Guys,

    I've been mongering all over the world, including US / Canada, Hong Kong, Thailand, Taiwan, Philippines, China. Looking to add Colombia to my conquest later this month. I'll be staying at Grand Hyatt for 5 nights with my brother (who isn't in the hobby. More on that later).

    I've read about 60 pages on this forum. Would like to get your thoughts on my plans.

    1. I am still trying to get a bitcoin wallet so I can finally message Woodman09. I plan to explore Santa Fe at least 2 of the 5 nights, would love some help navigating, especially the language barrier. Any extra caution for Asian guys in 30's if we were to go alone?

    2. I'm also into escorts for the longer / better service. Yes I know the cost is 4 x higher at La Celestina vs clubs. Since I'd be sharing a suite, I can see if I can tempt my brother into a 3 some. If not, how would you recommend I "make room". Just book a second room?

    3. I've arranged some local guides from Showaround for non-mongering activities. I had originally planned to use the guide as my wingman for the clubs and as a backup if I can't get Woodman's help (darn ISG messaging mechanism). I ended up hiring 2 (cute) female guides instead because the male ones were price gauging ($200/ day LOL). Any suggestion on hiring a buddy?

    4. Does anyone on here want to meet up between 10/20-10/24 for dinner and other night time shenanigans?

  12. #12436

    Hotels near SF

    Quote Originally Posted by Jrealyo  [View Original Post]
    Been to Bogota plenty of times and always stayed in Chapinero but need a central location between Chapinero and Santa fe. I like the casas in Chapinero
    but the nightlife of Santa fe. Maybe a place 15 minutes away from both. That 30 min drive from Chapinero is still a killer for me with the altitude. Headaches, etc. By the time I get to Santa fe, i feel like I have vertigo, lol. Car shaking and streets going up and down.

    Any suggestions for a Airbnb or guest friendly hotel would be nice thanks.
    Ibis is a group favorite also San Francisco-- both walking distance to SF-.

    A possibility is Hotel Dann (notCarleton) on calle 19 and CR 5- Also many cheaper hotels in this area.

    Hotel Santa Fe Suites is actually right in the redlight area north strolol.

    The area north around Ibis is pretty nice with many Airbnb and south of there too.

    Good Luck.

    GoodLuck.

  13. #12435

    Escorts are good I hear--

    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    I can't comment on quality, dependability or price, bit there are several escort agencies in Bogota. Just search "agencia prepago Bogota.

    The reason it's not reported on much here is because there's a big price difference. You can do 5 or more girls in Santa Fe for the price of one from an escort service. La Celestina has been reviewed favorably a few times.
    I do not use escorts-- Santa Fe is enough for me as I am old and can usually find some hot girl there.

    That said, here are some agencies I have been told about by guys visiting, and Not sure which but some send you un blurred photos after you gain trust.

    https://www.encountersvip.com/ https://www.photoprepagos.com/ https://www.encountersvip.com/.

    Perhaps the membership can chime in.

    GoodLuck.

  14. #12434
    Quote Originally Posted by Jrealyo  [View Original Post]
    Been to Bogota plenty of times and always stayed in Chapinero but need a central location between Chapinero and Santa fe. I like the casas in Chapinero
    but the nightlife of Santa fe. Maybe a place 15 minutes away from both. That 30 min drive from Chapinero is still a killer for me with the altitude. Headaches, etc. By the time I get to Santa fe, i feel like I have vertigo, lol. Car shaking and streets going up and down.

    Any suggestions for a Airbnb or guest friendly hotel would be nice thanks.
    Just zoom in on the area you want on airbnb, click a place, check the rules, if they don't mention anything about having visitors, message the host and ask them how they would feel about you having guests, potentially overnight. You're allowed to message 20 different hosts every 24 hours. This may not be the answer you're looking for but it's the correct one. Once people find a spot they like, they're not going to want to share it because they want it to be available next time they go to book it. You can try to read into rules like "not suitable for children", that's good. Or if they mention no noise after a certain time / be respectful to neighboring apartments, that may be code, or at least give some indictation of the host's uptightness. Personally I have so much respect for hosts that explicitly say in the rules that you can't have guests. I don't think they should be able to enforce rules that aren't written in the listing, it should not be the renter's responsibility to dig for more rules. But that's just airbnb's crappy policies. Also, "private entrance" in the amenities list doesn't mean jack shit. Even though the description says it's a private entrace to the street, airbnb just lets whoever put it up as long as it's not a shared unit. Pretty dumb.

  15. #12433
    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman09  [View Original Post]
    Gentlemen sit back and let me regale you with tales of hot Santa Fe pussy. As I sit here in the bakery trying to make sense of it all.....


    I like girls that let me take over and drive-- girls I can dominate and they enjoy it-- I have met so many-- Girls that let me gag them with my johnson, pull their hair and choke them a little. My program for quickees is usually the same get in the room and start with a some good hugging and grinding -- I like to check their oil and just feel them up good-- I stand on the bed and let them sit there and do oral always encouraging deep throat-- I like a girl that lets me grab her head so I can face fuck her. Then some missionary and doggie and then flatten her out for some lower doggie to finish. That is my typical quickee.
    The important part for me is the face fucking part. I'm trying to understand you method a bit more. I want to fuck some faces and take some girls breath away with a good gag. I'm usually the type to stray from this out of fear of ruining the atmosphere if the girl didn't like it, risking ruining the session and wasting money. I'm trying to understand how do you go about this? Do you negotiate this before hand? Do you go for it with no regard for the consequence since the potential financial loss is lower?

    I would gladly pay extra for this. I planned to try and negotiate this, but after reading up on you adventures a bit it seems like you just go for it.

    Also if you feel like the extra typing I'd love to read any other strip club stories you got. I'm interested in what I can expect while still on the floor. Are there any kisses, hjs or anything like that. I guess I enjoy the rush from PDA and strip clubs can be a great paid source of that. When I say PDA its not the lovey dove stuff. Its more like public foreplay. I know I can get just go and fuck them but I can do that at a casa or with a SG. In the strip club doing something note worthy on the floor even something minor would greatly enhance the value of the strip club for me.

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