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  1. #11580
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    Why are you initiating payment talk? To me, you should be trying to meet them without talk of payment.
    Because he is looking to fuck. You are looking to go with the flow and let whatever happens happen; which may end with you leaving with a dry dick. He does not want to chance it and is looking for a sure thing.

  2. #11579

    I felt the same way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aureliano16  [View Original Post]
    But what do you do if in the meeting the girl asks for USD 300+ ?

    You just leave? What a waste of time for both, I think the price, or at least some kind of range, is very important before meeting.
    When I read his M. O. It seemed to me he was making a lot of mistakes. All of that should be left for a face to face meeting. There is a tried and true saying in sales.

    "you can't give them a haircut over the phone".

  3. #11578
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    Same thing here. Why are you initiating payment talk? To me, you should be trying to meet them without talk of payment. It is just what you are used to. If they bring up money and you want them, then talk cash but try not to. My best meets were when money was not discussed.
    But what do you do if in the meeting the girl asks for USD 300+ ?

    You just leave? What a waste of time for both, I think the price, or at least some kind of range, is very important before meeting.

  4. #11577
    Quote Originally Posted by JackTaggart  [View Original Post]
    1) Check in a couple of hours before your agreed upon meeting time. She will forgot or lose track of time.

    2) Check in about an hour before your agreed upon meeting time to make sure she will be on time. It will likley take an hour for her to travel to you. You will likley find out she needs transportation. I am starting to find out its better to just offer to send an uber to start. This also allows you to see the progress via the app.
    That is good advice.

    Quote Originally Posted by JackTaggart  [View Original Post]
    3) I was hoping for bb, but did not ask after a lost date with an instagram model type that was good for 200,000 cop for 2 hours and we had a great rapport. Hours before our agreed upon meet, she asked "So do you use condoms". And I gave the too honest answer of "yes, but I would prefer not to and I am clean with recent results that I can show you" I was ghosted. I am sort of a dumbass sometimes. I probably should not have pulled that with a fluent english speaker and model type at that price.
    Nah, you do not ask for BB. You go for it and make them request the condom. If your mindset is that you expect BB as I do, you will get it most of the time.

    Quote Originally Posted by JackTaggart  [View Original Post]
    Me. Would 200 mil for a 2 hour meet be good?

    Her. Yes or she asks for a slightly higher amount, or she laughs at you and asks for 300 USD+.
    Same thing here. Why are you initiating payment talk? To me, you should be trying to meet them without talk of payment. It is just what you are used to. If they bring up money and you want them, then talk cash but try not to. My best meets were when money was not discussed.

  5. #11576

    Massage spots

    Quote Originally Posted by KindAn  [View Original Post]
    Anyone have recommendations for decent massage spots here. I'm near Santa Fe. I know some 'massage' spots are terrible, so I'd prefer a place that does genuine massages at a decent budget, but also provides extra if that's where I feel like going.

    Thanks!
    There are quite a few there. Sensity Spa, Loutron, Tantra Spa. I would check the earlier posts with map and lists.

  6. #11575

    Rockit Coin

    Quote Originally Posted by JackEnBogo  [View Original Post]
    If you are having issues with Coinbase or prefer a cash-only transaction, I can recommend the bitcoin ATM at Calle 64 #8-05. It's "Cajero Bitcoin" in google maps.

    Before you go, create a bitcoin wallet for yourself. For example, download the edge app. Go to your bitcoin wallet and press Request so you can save a screenshot of your wallet address (2 D barcode and the text version so you can double check it).

    Take your cash and wallet address to the bitcoin ATM. Let the machine scan in your wallet address barcode, input your cash, double check that your wallet address is correct, and press send / purchase to buy your coins. The employees are very helpful if you have a question or want them to verify that you're doing it correctly. You'll get your coins instantly and then you follow the directions on ISG to send your membership fee and activate it.
    I just wanted to add on that https://rockitcoin.com/ has a ton of ATM locations just like described above in the USA. I was able to sign up for an account and use cash to fund my wallet and easily pay for the subscription.

  7. #11574

    Colombia Sex Map

    So, this is the map of all the "casas", night-clubs, massage parlors, etc that I know and personally visited in my 3 month stay in Bogota:

    http://www.colombiasexmap.com

    I included the date of the last visit as well as the prices. It also has precise addresses and coordinates to open in google maps.

    I was thinking maybe a list / table view would also be useful? Especially for mobile.

    Anyway let me know what you guys think.

  8. #11573

    Bitcoin ATM option for buying a membership

    If you are having issues with Coinbase or prefer a cash-only transaction, I can recommend the bitcoin ATM at Calle 64 #8-05. It's "Cajero Bitcoin" in google maps.

    Before you go, create a bitcoin wallet for yourself. For example, download the edge app. Go to your bitcoin wallet and press Request so you can save a screenshot of your wallet address (2 D barcode and the text version so you can double check it).

    Take your cash and wallet address to the bitcoin ATM. Let the machine scan in your wallet address barcode, input your cash, double check that your wallet address is correct, and press send / purchase to buy your coins. The employees are very helpful if you have a question or want them to verify that you're doing it correctly. You'll get your coins instantly and then you follow the directions on ISG to send your membership fee and activate it.

  9. #11572

    Seeking / SA Mechanics

    Thanks to many other posts about SA in the past, I was able to get a good idea of a good approach to start. There have been a couple really good posts about the actual SA experiences so I am going to more focus on the mechanics of using it and the dates for now. I will probably make another post after about the dates later. I want to share with you guys what seemed to work well on my first try. For reference. I am a late 30's guy that is more or less HWP. I would not consider myself the most attractive man in the world. I speak zero Spanish and like a GFE experience. I am looking for a combination of one night stands and to find a few regular girls that I can see when I am in Bogota many times per year. Given my situation, I am willing to invest some additional time for the diamonds in the rough.

    I signed up for SA 2 weeks ahead of time and started browsing and favoriting girls. No messages from them. My profile was in English and real basic about having work in Bogota. Culture, food, and fun. I did not start messaging until I was in Bogota. This is the script I followed. I ignored most of the Instagram models and girls that had tags for only luxury life and travel on their profile.

    English. Hey, I'm Jack Taggart. I'd love to chat if you are interested.

    Spanish. Hola, soy Jack Taggarto. Me encantaría chatear si estás interesado.

    Her. Usually Hi, How are you. Or Yes, I would like to chat.

    English. Doing great. Do you have whatsapp?

    Spanish - ¿Tienes whatsapp?

    Most of the time she will answer with her number right away. Some will not respond and some will respond that they want to chat on SA. I did continue those chats.

    WhatsApp. If her response is generic.

    Me. Hello - its Jack Taggart from SA.

    Her. Hi.

    Me. Planetrees maybe, but pretty quickly right to the point. I am looking to meet up and have a few drinks. If all goes well have sex.

    Her. She generally agrees.

    Me. Would 200 mil for a 2 hour meet be good?

    Her. Yes or she asks for a slightly higher amount, or she laughs at you and asks for 300 USD+.

    From there I had opportunity to meet up either that day or the next day. I had 4 hits like this on my first day in Bogota and I obviously could not accomodate that.

    If you are only in Bogota for a short time. This should be your strategy. I met up with an amazing girl within a couple of days with maybe 15 minutes of effort. All in with casting my net wide it was maybe 2 hours of effort for my first meet up and to line up many others. So I think that is very much worth it.

    Whatsapp. If she responds and is chatty and asks substantive questions. Also only if she speaks English since I do not speak Spanish.

    I had good luck in engaging when the girl actually wants to talk. I will fully admit that I am an optimist and am looking for additional drinks / hanging out. Since I will also be in Bogota so often, I am also OK with a pretty female friend that likes to have fun. Maybe we just have a good time.

    Maybe it leads to more. Maybe she has friends. I like the ideas but I did not have enough time in to see how things pan out on this trip with the many leads. Since I plan on having a lot of spare time though on my next couple of trips, this aspect is worth working for me. A couple girls stopped.

    Responding when it was clear we could not meet right away. A couple others were cool with talking when I came back.

    I had the opportunity to line up dates with multiple of these girls and while time only permitted to meet up with one in this category, I had so much fun I met up with her two more times.

    In terms of the actual meeting, I am going to repeat some advice but I figure it makes sense for someone that might not be reading back through hundrends of pages.

    1) Check in a couple of hours before your agreed upon meeting time. She will forgot or lose track of time.

    2) Check in about an hour before your agreed upon meeting time to make sure she will be on time. It will likley take an hour for her to travel to you. You will likley find out she needs transportation. I am starting to find out its better to just offer to send an uber to start. This also allows you to see the progress via the app.

    3) I was hoping for bb, but did not ask after a lost date with an instagram model type that was good for 200,000 cop for 2 hours and we had a great rapport. Hours before our agreed upon meet, she asked "So do you use condoms". And I gave the too honest answer of "yes, but I would prefer not to and I am clean with recent results that I can show you" I was ghosted. I am sort of a dumbass sometimes. I probably should not have pulled that with a fluent english speaker and model type at that price.

  10. #11571

    Massage spots in Bogota

    Anyone have recommendations for decent massage spots here. I'm near Santa Fe. I know some 'massage' spots are terrible, so I'd prefer a place that does genuine massages at a decent budget, but also provides extra if that's where I feel like going.

    Thanks!

  11. #11570

    The clubs

    Here are some reviews of the clubs I visited in no particular order. Troyas. I like this club. Strip shows are happening all the time. Got a couple of lap dances. Most of the girls will leave you alone unless you somehow make some kind of contact with them. Maybe a smile or staring at them too long. Prices. I don't drink so mostly coke or water which came out to $10,000 cop. I bought a lady drink and it was $13,000 cop. Totally worth it since the it took the girl about half an hour to finish it and many lap dances during this time although not nude. I was told for the fully nude lap dance you need to buy a bottle. Since I don't drink no bottle service for me and didn't ask the price for the bottle. I did take one girl up, maybe I should say lady since she said she was 30 years old. Forgot her name but the vets will probably know who she is since she says she works everyday but leaves early around 7-8:00 at night. She has blond hair and is a little thick but was alot of fun upstairs. The cost to take her up was $60,000 cop. She did not rush and didn't ask for payment, so I payed at the end. No shower but she had wipes to clean up with. The cleanup girl did ask for a tip so I gave her $2,000 cop. Here is a question for anyone. My friend took a vennie from here. She told him $100,000 cop. When they got up, they went to the bar first and he told me she gave the bartender $20,000. Then they went upstairs where she asked for the money up front. The question here, is why did she pay the bartender $20,000?

    Fiebre. Another stripclub with good talent. My coke was $10,000 and the lady drinks were the same price of what we pay. To take a girl up was between $150,000 to $200,000 cop. Yes it's more expensive than Troyas. I took a girl named Scarlett upstairs. She asked for $150,00 and was well worth it. She was one of the stripper and a body to die for. Only 23 years old. Before going up I told her if she kisses and she said no. When in the room, once we got started she was kissing like a champ. Now comes the funny part. I'm doing my thing and totally enjoying it. I finally finish and sweating thinking it felt like hours since we started. I go to the bathroom and use the sink to wash my lower regions. When I get back to the bed I started to put my clothes on. When she's see this she tells me, I have another condom and we still have more time. So much for lasting a long time. LOL. Usually in Colombia it's a one and done thing unlike Brazil so she blew my mind when she said we could continue. Anyways, I thanked her but said one shot was good enough for me. Still I was impressed by her service so I asked her to come to my hotel the day before I would fly back home and I would take her to dinner after the hotel. She agreed but when the day came, she whatsapp me and said she was running late and could we meet later than our schedule time. I told her I couldn't because I promised I would take my friends back to Santa Fe for the last night of our trip and that maybe I would see her in the club later. She agreed but I never saw her again. She did whatsapp me the next day to wish me a safe flight home.

    Paisas. This was a weird club to me. We got there around 18:00 and there were around 6 girls in the club. The guys outside said there was a stripshow ready to start. It was after 19:00 before ths show started. A couple of girls were good looking but all of the girls were just staring at their phones. If one of the better looking girls would have looked up I would have brought them over to the table but it didn't happen. When the show started, the first two girls were big. Nothing wrong with that but not my taste. Don't get me wrong, I like thin to thick but these girls were more than thick. Not sure how these girls make money since they don't seem engaged to the customer. At least the prices were reasonable. My coke was 8,000 cop but I believe the guys said a lady drink was $25,000 cop. I did talk to one girl who was playing with her phone to get a price to go upstairs. She said it's $80,000 cop. I didn't take anyone up from here.

    Atunes. I went on a Saturday and there were alot of guys compared to the girls. My coke was $4,000 cop and couldn't even talk to any girls because as soon as one got freed, another customer would claim her. I did see one tall girl I would have like to get to know better but that wasn't happening. After 45 minutes I decided to leave and come back tomorrow. Hopefully the tall chick would be there. Turns out that the tall chick wouldn't be there because Atunes is closed on Sunday. I did try again on Monday, my last full day in Bogota but the tall girl wasn't there. If fact, there were only three girls there. I asked the waiter if more girls would be coming but he told me Mondays though Wednesday are bad. Thursday to Saturday are the days to come here. Needless to say, didn't take anyone up.

    Pussy House and? Since Atunes was closed on Sunday we decided to go to Pussy House in Chapinero. We google it and it said it was open on Sunday and closed on Monday. They lied. We ubered up there and since it was a Sunday no traffic. As we were getting close to the place we notice there were some guys in front of a door on the right side of the street. We went past those guy about 25 yards and our driver stopped and said Pussy House is on our left side but closed. While trying to figure out what to do, a guy from the place we past comes over to us. Tell us there are chicas inside but the place looks a bit shaddy. We first ask the guys if it would be okay to look in and if we don't like it we would leave. He said no problem Then we turned to our driver and asked him if he could wait for us in case we decided to leave. He also said no problem. We get out of the car and I'm the last guys out. I follow my friend in though the door. Then we were led up some creepy stairway. I'm thinking, at least I had fun up to this point. When we get to the top, there is a doorway to the club. Looking very quickiy, I think there were around ten girls there with about eight guys sitting around. As we walked past the girls, most of the girls would grab my cock or squeeze my ass. My kind of place and in return I started to put my hands in between the legs of the girls. When we got to the end, one of my friends felt really uncomfortable and wanted to leave. I said okay and we started out. I was looking forward to going throught the gauntlet again. Sure enought, more hands all over my body, my hands trying to grab as much as I can. I guess I like dirty and seedy. Don't know the name of the club since there was no signage but I'm assuming it was divas according to wt's map. There is a slight difference on the map where this club is located but if I come back to Bogota, I will find out and do some hands on investgation. After the drive dropped us off at the hotel, we went to grabs some bugers nearby. I told my friend, this is the kind of club I like because there was good interaction between the girls and customer.

    Final thoughts. Santa Fe is a rough area but I think as long as you use common sense you should be okay. Everytime I went to Santa Fe I walked and a couple of times I went by myself. The clubs here are what you make of it. Even if the clubs didn't have someone I would take up, I would get the best looking girls and buy her a drink. That usually led to lap dances and most of the girls I bought drinks for, took their time drinking it. When I had my friends with me in the clubs, we could be there hours just conversing between us. When I went alone, like I said before, I would buy a drink for a girl because I like the interaction between us. If by chance you go alone, I would recommend watching the show and if it starts to feel boring, to buy a girl a drink, Cost wise, it cheap and even if you don't know Spanish, the girl will appreciate it. You will probably get a better lapdance than in the states since you can put your hands just about anywhere.

  12. #11569

    Trip Report

    I just got back from Bogota. This is my second trip there and went with two of my friends who have never been there. Last time I stayed in the North, this time stayed in the south and liked it much better. I like the dark and seedy side of the city. I'll try and list the stuff most guys need for their first trip down. Airlines: United, it was $320.00 are / t which was a great price. Immigration. Had to fill out the check mig beforehand. When filling out the regular check mig, on the last page I would always get an error message. Stating that the information was already submitted, which it wasn't. Anyways, to circumvent the problem, I went to the contingency check mig website and it went through very smoothly. Got the verification with code. Same thing happened on the departure check mig so had to do the contingent check mig again. After picking up our luggage, they wanted to exchange money. I had pesos from my last trip so I was good. Now most of us have it ingrained in our mind that the exchange rate at most airports are pretty bad so just change a little bit, then change more when in the city. Earlier in the day I checked the xe exchange rate and it showed 3771 cop to the dollar. The exchange at the airport was 3750 cop to the dollar. Just about even with the xe rate. I was surprise at the good rate and my friends exchanged about $500.00 usd. Another thing that was ingrained in my mind was always used my see / S card to obtain money since the rates are usually good and they reimburst the ATM fees. The one time I used my card, the rate turned out to be about $3690.00 to the dollar and that's with turning down the BS conversion rate they offer. Anyways found a casa de cambio in La Candalaria that gave a great rate. It is called Eduar Perz II. The address is Cr. 6 #12 see-40. In this area there were about four more casa de cambios but when I saw the rate here, I didn't bother with the others. For the day I changed money here, the xe rate was 3777.00 cop to the dollar. The casa gave me a rate of 3800 cop to one dollar. Another thing I like about this casa, the person showed the stamp on the bills to prove they were not fake even though I probably couldn't tell the difference.

    Transportation from the airport to the hotel and back. I prebooked with Colombian buddy. It was $38.00 are / t. I know there are lower means of transport, but there were three of us and I wanted to make sure there was room for all of our luggage. A regular taxi would have been able to take us as passengers but not the luggage. We were picked up in an suv so the luggage and ourselves had plenty of room and they were on time both ways. I recommend this service only if you have many persons and or alot of luggage. Sim card. Usually I would buy a local sim card but this time I wanted to try something different. I used an e-sim card from ubigi. I got the 14 day for $14.00 usd since there weren't any plans for less than 14 days. Yes, it cost more than a local sim but a lot less than the $10.00 usd a day rate that at&t offers and it is just so convenient. The ubigi esim is only for the data and not for voice calls. I mainly used it for whatsapp and uber.

    Hotel. We stayed at the Ibis museo which is in a great location. Here are the negatives. When I first saw the room, I was thinking this is the smallest room I have been in for a Accor hotel. There's no fridge and the instruction on how to use the safe was wiped out. On Friday and Saturday there is loud music coming from somewhere and if you are a light sleeper like I am it will be tough to sleep. The pluses for the hotel is location. You can walk from the hotel to the historical center, the planetarium was close by. Easy walk to Santa Fe when not doing any sight-seeing. Shower with hot water worked perfectly and the tv although most channels are in Spanish, I was ablt to watch the men's finals which turned out to be a good game. Many restaurants and shopping close by.

  13. #11568
    Quote Originally Posted by Infamousss  [View Original Post]
    OK last minute trip being planned for. Bogota.

    But I can't find the Casas list for Bogota?

    Where is it?

    What is the average prices.

    What area is the best area to stay in to be safe & close to the casas.
    Just search my posts. I've written extensively about numerous casas in Bogota in the last month.

  14. #11567
    Quote Originally Posted by Infamousss  [View Original Post]
    I have been to Medellin & I must say I like the setup of walking into a Casas. But I can't find the Casas list for Bogota? Where is it?
    Have you tried the Bogota Lists thread?

  15. #11566

    WTF are you implying!

    Quote Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1  [View Original Post]
    And BTW this is a site for hetero males.
    WTF are you implying!

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