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  1. #9686

    Can you please elaborate

    I don't mind dying 10-20 years earlier if I will be able to live a good life until then.

  2. #9685
    Quote Originally Posted by PilotPaul  [View Original Post]
    You are a true humanitarian.

    Do you know the recovery rate from death?

    Do you know the long term effect of having had the virus at all? And one does. Consider Chicken Pox, herpes zoster. Lays dormant in the body for 40 years the reappears as shingles. Ouch.

    While personally you may not be impacted, you will carry the society cost of so many people having poor health, lost mothers, lost fathers, lost grandparents, lost knowledge.

    To consider the death rate is such a small part of the required analysis.
    Actually, it seems more as if it may shave off a few years of the life expectancy. I don't mind dying 10-20 years earlier if I will be able to live a good life until then. People under 50 are extremely unlikely to die because of Covid-19. Good enough for me, I'm more afraid of the economic turmoil.

  3. #9684
    Quote Originally Posted by Tomasb  [View Original Post]
    It's only the end of the world if you or a loved one has the virus and dies or is incapacitated and / or permanently affected by the hospitalization. Otherwise, no problem.
    Quote Originally Posted by PilotPaul  [View Original Post]
    You are a true humanitarian.

    Do you know the recovery rate from death?

    Do you know the long term effect of having had the virus at all? And one does. Consider Chicken Pox, herpes zoster. Lays dormant in the body for 40 years the reappears as shingles. Ouch.

    While personally you may not be impacted, you will carry the society cost of so many people having poor health, lost mothers, lost fathers, lost grandparents, lost knowledge.

    To consider the death rate is such a small part of the required analysis.
    I stand corrected.

    You're both right.

    It is the end of the world.

    Thank you for your wisdom and knowledge.

  4. #9683
    Quote Originally Posted by Balboa  [View Original Post]
    Yes, it's a very contagious, and potentially dangerous virus for some, however, it's not the end of the world.
    You are a true humanitarian.

    Do you know the recovery rate from death?

    Do you know the long term effect of having had the virus at all? And one does. Consider Chicken Pox, herpes zoster. Lays dormant in the body for 40 years the reappears as shingles. Ouch.

    While personally you may not be impacted, you will carry the society cost of so many people having poor health, lost mothers, lost fathers, lost grandparents, lost knowledge.

    To consider the death rate is such a small part of the required analysis.

  5. #9682

    Covid 19 o

    It's only the end of the world if you or a loved one has the virus and dies or is incapacitated and / or permanently affected by the hospitalization. Otherwise, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Balboa  [View Original Post]
    I agree with you.

    People, tourists, whoever, will go back to NYC, Italy, Cartagena, etc, after this has run its course whether it be thru immunity, vaccine, found treatments, etc.

    P.S. . This was at the tail end of the article concerning Covid deaths in Colombia yesterday:

    "Friday's 21 deaths occurred in Bogota, Tumaco, Mosquera, Cali, Barranquilla and Leticia. Bogota accounted for two of the victims. All fatalities suffered from pre-existing medical conditions, among them, cancer, hypothyroidism, diabetes and cardio-respiratory failure".

    We all know who this virus affects most. It's sad when anyone dies, from this virus or from whatever cause of death.

    Yes, it's a very contagious, and potentially dangerous virus for some, however, it's not the end of the world.

  6. #9681
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    Just received word from a Cartagena chica that they're going back into full quarantine in Cartagena. Not sure what all that entails, but if anyone is riding this out there, expect a few rough weeks.
    Here is the link for everyone to follow:

    https://www.eluniversal.com.co/espec...-en-cartagena/

  7. #9680

    Total quarantine

    Just received word from a Cartagena chica that they're going back into full quarantine in Cartagena. Not sure what all that entails, but if anyone is riding this out there, expect a few rough weeks.

  8. #9679

    Sad

    So sad to this thread dead and dry. Its like reality has set in for me. Was once my favorite city. Not much to look forward to. Medellin it is. Soon.

  9. #9678
    Maybe they will change a mayor, get the city balance sheet right and build a promenade and not follow idiotic gender based days like in Bogota.

  10. #9677
    Quote Originally Posted by Balboa  [View Original Post]
    We all know who this virus affects most. It's sad when anyone dies, from this virus or from whatever cause of death.
    There is a second side of the story. When all hospitals are overwhelmed by COVID, there is no room for "regular guests", which means a lot in my country died not because sick of COVID, but because of COVID anyay, for heart or normal diseases, because of lack of regular medical attention.

  11. #9676
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPage  [View Original Post]
    I

    .. the lack of tourists in Cartagena for the months or years to come will be not because Cartagena now is a hot spot, but because borders will stay closed, or because people will not want to cross borders (to Colombia or to USA) to not risk 2 weeks of quarantine.

    I hope this clears the misunderstanding.
    I agree with you.

    People, tourists, whoever, will go back to NYC, Italy, Cartagena, etc, after this has run its course whether it be thru immunity, vaccine, found treatments, etc.

    P.S. . This was at the tail end of the article concerning Covid deaths in Colombia yesterday:

    "Friday's 21 deaths occurred in Bogota, Tumaco, Mosquera, Cali, Barranquilla and Leticia. Bogota accounted for two of the victims. All fatalities suffered from pre-existing medical conditions, among them, cancer, hypothyroidism, diabetes and cardio-respiratory failure".

    We all know who this virus affects most. It's sad when anyone dies, from this virus or from whatever cause of death.

    Yes, it's a very contagious, and potentially dangerous virus for some, however, it's not the end of the world.

  12. #9675
    Quote Originally Posted by YippieKayay  [View Original Post]
    Since you can't follow links and read evidently:
    https://youtu.be/tVSxgSrQAM4
    I'm not asking for a discussion of California or Europe. I posted about Cartagena in the Cartagena thread.
    I reassure you. I can read.

    You missed my point. I know what is a hot spot, but I do not think Cartagena is a "hotter spot" than NYC, or LA, or my city in Europe. We had 20k-30k deaths in several European countries. NYC alone nearly 30k already. We will have many more, once the lockdown is relaxed. Cartagena and Colombia are just entering the nightmare. 1k infected is still nothing.

    Cartagena cannot be considered worse than where we live. The numbers reported in that video are very small, compared to the numbers reported in NYC, USA, Europe, my country, my town, etc. Going to Cartagena is not more dangerous than going to many other countries (to name one in LA: Brazil!) On top of all that, we do not know what are the real numbers, hidden as untested. In short: WE (USA and Europe) ARE THE HOT SPOTS, not Colombia (yet).

    Therefore, since you could not read my post evidently (or I was not clear enough, depending on how strong we want to discuss), the lack of tourists in Cartagena for the months or years to come will be not because Cartagena now is a hot spot, but because borders will stay closed, or because people will not want to cross borders (to Colombia or to USA) to not risk 2 weeks of quarantine.

    I hope this clears the misunderstanding.

  13. #9674
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPage  [View Original Post]
    What is a hot spot for COVID?
    Since you can't follow links and read evidently:

    https://youtu.be/tVSxgSrQAM4

    I'm not asking for a discussion of California or Europe. I posted about Cartagena in the Cartagena thread.

  14. #9673
    Quote Originally Posted by YippieKayay  [View Original Post]
    Tourists aren't going to flock to a place that had become a hot spot for COVID-19.
    What is a hot spot for COVID? USA and Europe has been hit much worse than Colombia, at least for the moment. I am sure there is some, yet it sounds odd, that someone living in California may think that Colombia is more at danger for COVID. I am from Europe and no country will welcome me for a long time at international borders.

    This virus is a worldwide problem. People is forbidden to move around because mobility is a major factor impacting the increase rate of the epidemic, but nowadays the virus is already everywhere, and so it will be for years.

  15. #9672

    The situation in Cartagena

    Evidently cases are starting to spike in Cartagena and the Colombian Caribbean coast:

    https://thecitypaperbogota.com/news/...colombia/25061

    It appears that cases are climbing quickly according to that article and the data released by the Ministry of Health in Colombia:

    https://twitter.com/MinSaludCol/stat...41184081833984

    Worldometers shows the number of confirmed, or presumptive, daily cases in Colombia continuing to rise:

    https://www.worldometers.info/corona...ntry/colombia/

    I do communicate with a couple of chicas there who keep sending me their dirty photos but I wasn't able to get anything meaningful from them on the situation. They are still in lock down with specific days for people to go out based on their gender and ID number. My tout tells me he's worried he will run out of food soon. If Cartagena gets hit hard, which it appears its about to, then that city will be changed for a long time. Tourists aren't going to flock to a place that had become a hot spot for COVID-19. That in turn will cause a death spiral in the local economy.

    Anyone currently there care to share what the situation is like on the ground?
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