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  1. #50046
    FYI the vast majority of crime victims here are Colombian. It's true that the vast majority of crime victims we read about on this and other gringo websites are not Colombian. That said, it's also true Colombians or foreigners are all vulnerable to crimes and we should all do what we can to control the risk.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill  [View Original Post]
    Clicked the link and read the article seems very familiar.

    The author is giving us a list of do's and don'ts after his friend was robbed (x3) last at gunpoint, and he was too, then stabbed.

    The author tells us he would still return to Colombia but change his ways.

    What's that famous north flowing river in Africa called? Denial.

    Could be the addiction some of us here have called Puszy a. K. a. Quim on the cranium.

    Maybe all we can do sometimes is to suggest, allude to, or just watch the downward spiral, not unlike seeing a beautiful crack hore get skinnier and waste away as time passes.

    What can be done? Pokemon, save 'them all?

    You can get an extensive list of do's and don'ts tattooed to your forearm, or committed to memory.

  2. #50045
    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge  [View Original Post]
    A bit of real talk, those of you who have been here or been coming here since the 90's should know that 2016 FARC peace accord and ceasefire was the inflection point that led to the level of tourism (all types, including punters) that we see today. History will give the liberal administration that preceded Ivan Duque credit for turning around Colombia's image of unbridled terrorism and mayhem and growing in the tourism sector. If you were here during the lockdown you would have seen the increase in disaffected young people joining FARC like groups and FARC like groups engaging in a campaign of assassinations of rural social and political leaders become the number 2 news story behind the pandemic. It was not a story at all in international media. Reports about the severe economic decline caused by the pandemic did show up in the international media. That economic decline continues but now that the pandemic is under better control it is only affecting the lower strata of the population.

    In spite of all of this, there has been a noticeable uptick in punter arrivals. It's noticeable even in grimy Centro. In my opinion, the impact is much greater in more upscale and gringo centric venues. In Centro, even though there are many more gringos than in the past, their impact is minimal. The Centro scene and its cost is unchanged in my experience. Now, a prediction. In the run up to the national election there will be an increasing number of the traditional street demonstrations..
    My biggest concern with the upcoming election is who is elected, and how it will effect foreigners and tourism after the election.

    There could be some very unpleasant changes on the horizon.

    Hopefully the candidate elected is not anti-American as that will be bad news.

  3. #50044

    Trip

    Quote Originally Posted by Premant  [View Original Post]
    I will be in Medellin Oct. 31-nov7 if anyone wants to hook up.
    I will be there Oct. 31 till nv 7, I have chica thru Colombia cupid. Com good place, mine wants to have sex she said. Nice looking 28 one kid I will be staying at the Dann Carlton near the park very nice place. 67 $ per night let me know if hook up Ron.

  4. #50043
    Quote Originally Posted by ColomboAnthony  [View Original Post]
    I read online that I can buy a prepaid phone in the airport, is that true? I have a burner phone in the states but not sute if it will work there.

    Is mansion worth it? I was going to book 2 nights there so then I have access to it, but I already booked my full stay at Duparc, is that even worth it?
    I don't think you can buy a prepaid phone at the airport. If you have an unlocked GSM phone that works in the US, it should work in Medellin.

    My suggestion is to visit the Mansion bar one evening and see for yourself if you think the atmosphere is worth the higher price for a room that is not up to the standards of most good hotels. You have to pay an entrance fee at the bar.

  5. #50042
    Quote Originally Posted by CoolGregg  [View Original Post]
    Finished my second trip in first week of October. I have noticed and experienced same that things changed so quickly since I went in June. Just in 4 months. In June I paid 120 mil to 150 mil cop. Now they want 200 to 250 mil. Now some here will argue that everything went up around the globe and inflation and gas prices. But there's is more supply and competition if you will. Between vennies and paisa. So price should be down. Conversion from USD to Paisa is same. In centro cops are randomly stopping people to search. And in casas I saw more locals visiting then tourists. On the streets saw more Venezuelans selling candy everywhere.

    I am impressed that every body wears masks and some business would ask you to wear. I travelled by Metro a lot. All the bars were busy during week end. I find Medellin restaurants more cleaner and well kept then USA. Staff is always well dressed, they clean their counters and kitchen every few minutes.
    Cops have always been stopping and searching random people. This is nothing new. There are also always more locals than tourists in the casas. It might seem different if you only visit New Life and get there at the wrong time, but their bread and butter income is from the locals.

  6. #50041

    Trip

    I will be in Medellin Oct. 31-nov7 if anyone wants to hook up.

  7. #50040
    Quote Originally Posted by PepolesBuddy  [View Original Post]
    Sorry you went through this man. Thanks for being honest about being extorted by the cops due to your carelessness and complacency. Most guys would be too embarrassed to say anything. You can only tempt the devil so many times without getting caught! And dude WTF is wrong with you? Did your balls drop! You really think he's your "friend" after stealing from you like a punk *****? If you truly believe that he's your friend and you have "police" protection / extortion you are delusional.

    We all need to be more diligent and cautious. Based on what I read you gents need to be more selective! Interview interview interview. Only if you vibe with the chica and there's mutual chemistry do you take her back to your place. Watch her like a hawk! Only after a few sessions and trust is established can you let your guard down. Worst case going a few nights without getting laid won't kill you. Or, you can go to a casa or strip club.

    Me personally, I have never done neither because I enjoy the hunt just like anyone else. But I'm selective and bang less girls in a month then most of you in a week or a day! LOL. You hardcore "seasoned" mongers can keep your el centro while my pussy ass will stay where I'm familiar amongst people I know. Safety is always more important than pussy. This ain't USA or Europe. This is Colombia, la jungla baby!

    https://www.nomadicmatt.com/travel-b...lombia-safety/
    Clicked the link and read the article seems very familiar.

    The author is giving us a list of do's and don'ts after his friend was robbed (x3) last at gunpoint, and he was too, then stabbed.

    The author tells us he would still return to Colombia but change his ways.

    What's that famous north flowing river in Africa called? Denial.

    Could be the addiction some of us here have called Puszy a. K. a. Quim on the cranium.

    Maybe all we can do sometimes is to suggest, allude to, or just watch the downward spiral, not unlike seeing a beautiful crack hore get skinnier and waste away as time passes.

    What can be done? Pokemon, save 'them all?

    You can get an extensive list of do's and don'ts tattooed to your forearm, or committed to memory.

    But if your a foreigner in Medellin and can be identified as such from your appearance and language to your dress or mannerisms, You may as well have a neon flashing bullseye target on your back complete with audio that says "yes im a gringo with money or bank card how will you separate me from it ? " LOL.

    Famous last words. It won't happen to me - Just keep your head on a swivel- I'm very careful- those other guys are stupid- it is what it is- it won't happen again- it doesn't bother me- I'm in control- just stay positive- I just RTFF. Lol

  8. #50039
    "Keep the facebook scene a secret"? Is that a sarcastic comment? The facebook scene is about as secret as Lleras girls.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tasss  [View Original Post]
    These two posts made me LOL. I'm definitely observing many of the same things as you are.

    - General price inflation, including chica price inflation, if Davivienda ATMs now allowing 2 million COP withdrawals are any indication. Normal FB price seems to be 200 k + taxi now, with a few accepting lower.

    - Repeats from prior trips are often not worth it. So far I met with 3 from my prior trip. 2 got fatter, 2 of them became more hardcore / mercenary / gave worse service, all of them wanted more money than before. See attached screenshots.

    - Girls appear to be looking for different offers at the same time while negotiating with you. Ex: you give them the price, and they disappear for a few minutes before accepting your offer.

    - Please keep the FB scene an open secret and don't tell random dudes about FB. Keep the ones who don't do their homework on Tinder, clubs, SA.

    - Once a girl has been in the scene for some time and is above average looking, watch her price go up and service go down.

  9. #50038
    It's completely unfair to use a broad brush to paint guys as numbnuts. It's true in my case but that doesn't mean it's the case for most others.

    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    More careful than most, I suspect Osteo. More careful than I, that's for sure. Jeje.

    Would love to hear the real story behind one day.

    Yes, there are plenty of "numbnuts " here. Don't like to paint everyone with the same brush, but it seems that there is a common trait among USAns. If they don't agree with you or don't like what you say, they insult you. They tell you you're dumb before they even understand the situation, then they go on to tell you how you should have dealt with it. Totally obnoxious.

    I know it's a generalistaion. Some of my best friends are from USA, it's just a too common theme from their culture.

    Anyway, stay well and recharge.

  10. #50037

    Correcto

    Quote Originally Posted by Tasss  [View Original Post]
    These two posts made me LOL. I'm definitely observing many of the same things as you are.

    - General price inflation, including chica price inflation, if Davivienda ATMs now allowing 2 million COP withdrawals are any indication. Normal FB price seems to be 200 k + taxi now, with a few accepting lower.

    - Repeats from prior trips are often not worth it. So far I met with 3 from my prior trip. 2 got fatter, 2 of them became more hardcore / mercenary / gave worse service, all of them wanted more money than before. See attached screenshots.

    - Girls appear to be looking for different offers at the same time while negotiating with you. Ex: you give them the price, and they disappear for a few minutes before accepting your offer.

    - Please keep the FB scene an open secret and don't tell random dudes about FB. Keep the ones who don't do their homework on Tinder, clubs, SA.

    - Once a girl has been in the scene for some time and is above average looking, watch her price go up and service go down.
    Finished my second trip in first week of October. I have noticed and experienced same that things changed so quickly since I went in June. Just in 4 months. In June I paid 120 mil to 150 mil cop. Now they want 200 to 250 mil. Now some here will argue that everything went up around the globe and inflation and gas prices. But there's is more supply and competition if you will. Between vennies and paisa. So price should be down. Conversion from USD to Paisa is same. In centro cops are randomly stopping people to search. And in casas I saw more locals visiting then tourists. On the streets saw more Venezuelans selling candy everywhere.

    I am impressed that every body wears masks and some business would ask you to wear. I travelled by Metro a lot. All the bars were busy during week end. I find Medellin restaurants more cleaner and well kept then USA. Staff is always well dressed, they clean their counters and kitchen every few minutes.

  11. #50036
    A bit of real talk, those of you who have been here or been coming here since the 90's should know that 2016 FARC peace accord and ceasefire was the inflection point that led to the level of tourism (all types, including punters) that we see today. History will give the liberal administration that preceded Ivan Duque credit for turning around Colombia's image of unbridled terrorism and mayhem and growing in the tourism sector. If you were here during the lockdown you would have seen the increase in disaffected young people joining FARC like groups and FARC like groups engaging in a campaign of assassinations of rural social and political leaders become the number 2 news story behind the pandemic. It was not a story at all in international media. Reports about the severe economic decline caused by the pandemic did show up in the international media. That economic decline continues but now that the pandemic is under better control it is only affecting the lower strata of the population.

    In spite of all of this, there has been a noticeable uptick in punter arrivals. It's noticeable even in grimy Centro. In my opinion, the impact is much greater in more upscale and gringo centric venues. In Centro, even though there are many more gringos than in the past, their impact is minimal. The Centro scene and its cost is unchanged in my experience. Now, a prediction. In the run up to the national election there will be an increasing number of the traditional street demonstrations. Several metro and bus routes were disrupted by them yesterday afternoon. This election will be the first (and hopefully the last) with a pandemic in flight. I expect the ongoing economic pressure will ratchet up the intensity and quantity of street demonstrations and possibly riots. I should not have to point out the impact that will have on punter and mainstream tourism. On another front, Colombia's right wing media are propping up its preferred candidates with now familiar demagogic commentary about immigration, race, and poverty.

    Quote Originally Posted by Balboa  [View Original Post]
    Hmmm I've been saying that since after 1999 when I was the only gringo in town, except maybe the Tall man maybe, Lol.

    Times change though, either roll with it or move on I guess.

    I'll always enjoy Medellin, though it's far from my favorite place anymore.

  12. #50035
    Quote Originally Posted by LoveItHere69  [View Original Post]
    The street behind the church # 51-30. Hotel Channel. She stands at the bottom. Fake boobs. Pretty face and smile. 5 foot. She would not go to my hotel around the corner and I have bias against using that hotel. Do not remember her asking price.
    All hot girls are in Colombia.

  13. #50034
    If you search the comment history of those groups you will find that sort of finger pointing going back 10+ years.

    Quote Originally Posted by DonCarlos1234  [View Original Post]
    Other FB boards are saying much worse about an influx foreigners looking for cocaine and ho's asking for advice etc. Loose lips sink ships.

  14. #50033
    I 100% support the interest of many in La Isla, Gustos etc. I have some doubts about how fair it is to complain about big spenders in a business that directly caters to that market segment. I do understand that big spenders have a lot more impact in Lleras / Gustos / LaIsla etc than they do in the gritty world of Centro rats. I recently heard about new restrictions in Lleras aimed at reducing the number of providers. If the restrictions push them back to Plaza Botero or the late night San Diego scene, well so be it.

    Quote Originally Posted by GringoItaliano  [View Original Post]
    I had heard and read before this trip that an influx of newbies was responsible in large part for the deterioration of the Medellin scene, but it was not until last week that I saw it with my own eyes. I always travel solo and usually steer clear of other gringos (except when I stayed at the Mansion as a newbie, when the camaraderie was extremely helpful and supportive). My latest choice of lodging. Provenza Lofts. Exposed me to other gringos more than usual.

    One of a group of three guys staying there saw the girls that I was having over when I came out to pay the hoes' taxis; he was on the front porch smoking a lot. Apparently they thought that my lineup was unbelievably smoking hot. They seemed to think that I was some sort of James Bond of mongering.

    I explained to them that I thought that my lineup for this trip was actually sub-par by Medellin standards, or at least compared to my previous trips. They asked where I was finding girls, as they seemed to think that Parque Lleras, Gusto, and Tinder were the best places to look (facepalm). I warned them to avoid Lleras and Tinder girls for security reasons and to avoid Gusto for price reasons. They were vaguely aware of Facebook as a source of hoes and had no knowledge of typical / historical pricing there.

    I ran into them again when I was catching my Uber to La Isla on my last Saturday night. They were aware of Fase II, but I explained to them that La Isla had the best talent in town. Lo and behold, they showed up at La Isla hours later..

  15. #50032

    Lets not purposefully fuck Medellin up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Osteoknot  [View Original Post]
    Trying to share sensitive information on the hopes that it can benefit others can prove to be not worth the effort here, and you won't be seeing as much of that from me in the future. People can't see the broad strokes and get quagmired in the minutiae.

    My guy is confirmed Bogota policia. I also learned how they targeted me and no one here got it right and neither did I until I was told how. And then it made perfect sense.

    But there are too many swine around here for me to cast those pearls. I am done with that at least until I rest up some.

    And thank you for all the free advice but I never asked for any.

    People seem to forget I've never been happier. 'm happy as I can possibly be and happier than I ever thought I would be and I'm not trying to change a thing.

    And yes you are correct I don't give a shit about keeping a low profile. Still don't..
    Osteo,

    I've told you before, I really do enjoy reading your posts, its entertaining to read about your "over the top" and "on the edge" lifestyle. Personally I don't know you or care about you, and if your behavior leads to your demise, that was your choice, bless you either way. You post very regularly about your reckless behavior and your last adventure almost landed you in jail, but more importantly people who consistently engage in this type of reckless behavior could have a very real impact on how the game is played in Medellin. There is already a strong movement against sex tourism there in the city, you can look up the recent Medellin news clips on youtube. If we all start treating Medellin like its a game of Grand Theft Auto, eventually authorities are going to pay much more attention to the single gringos who are clearly there to take advantage of cheap drugs and prostitutes and have little respect or regard for anything else in the city. [Deleted by Admin]. This is going to just encourage more members / readers / mongers to act like assholes on vacation down there, until it gets to the point the authorities crackdown on prostitution and Medellin turns into Havana. A gringo can't even walk down the street with a girl in Havana without a cop harassing you. It also makes gringos targets, more wreckless gringoes will lead to more predatory scams to shake them down, especially in a poverty stricken nation. [Deleted by Admin] on the forum, etc.

    I sincerely do thank you for sharing the story about your shakedown, that is very valuable information which should be shared and puts a good warning out to other members about the possible dangers of Medellin. I am also being over cautious in my post and I apologize if it comes off as harsh, but I think its very important to state posts like these to remind people that Medellin is a great place, but things can change quickly in just a few years.

    If we all play the game safely, the game will be there for us longer and its a safer, cheaper, more enjoyable game to play. You as a player will also last longer. As I have said before, keep your head down and enjoy the ride. The forum should focus on the sharing of information for the safety and enjoyment of us mongers. Not a tool used to contribute to our own demise.[Deleted by Admin]

    I was warned by a moderator before for a similar post. The moderator claimed I am discouraging people from posting. I am not discouraging people from posting, I am promoting monger safety. None of us want to end up in the situation Osteo was in, and it should be stated here for all readers to see. I don't see anything wrong with my post, and hopefully it is allowed to be posted.

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