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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim0129  [View Original Post]
    Ok? Facebook and La isla, etc. Are tourist prices, where do you find local prices?
    Your categories don't really work. If you go in the high end places you will see that there are many locals there as well. All of these types of places have a mix. And the locals pay the same prices. Generally. Regulars may find lower price options. I don't know.

    But you go to the streets in Centro, go to the strip clubs that locals go to, and your prices will not be a lot different. Depends a bit on you, and how observant you are about what locals are doing and paying. And perhaps your comfort in Spanish and in negotiating.

    Go to the casas. Prices are sometimes printed on a laminated page pinned up in the room or somewhere. You're getting the same deal as the locals. No problem.

  2. #66982
    A very nice summary of the paisa perspective. Well said. 95% of the girls I meet are super sweet, kind, soft spoken and loving. With what little they have, they take good care of themselves, dress and smell good. I treat them like a GF and feed them, give massages, talk to them, give advice, listen to them in their endearing paisa accent and form great memories. I, of course, party with them too. But most of all, please treat them in a way that they don't want to leave or can't wait to come back with a friend.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDerilious  [View Original Post]
    That is very rarely, if ever, the case for girls going into this business. It may be a reason they stay in the business after getting accustomed to it, but no woman is brought up to want to be (as you so eloquently called them) a "hoe. " The majority of women are doing this because they are very poor and have no other real options. A place like Columbia doesn't have a vibrant social advancement platform and it is much harder to improve your situation with a lot of the barriers in the way. Abuse, at a young age, is rampant in the sex work community as well, either from family or friends and at the emotional or sexual level.

    As countries advance, there are more and more women who do sex work to just make some spare cash in college, but Columbia is not that place. It's why so many mongers in the west complain about the prices of women here because those women have minimum wage options and are doing sex work to avoid that. We go to places like Thailand and Columbia to use arbitrage and pay poorer girls for their service.

    There is no need to hide from that truth. As long as we pay a fair wage and treat the girls nicely, there is nothing wrong this. Sex work shouldn't be looked down upon, least of all by the johns, and we should all expect a level of respect from the girls and vice versa.

  3. #66981
    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    There are at least 2 market places that members here use -.

    Local market. Those that pay the regular high street prices (think of it as shopping at the places that local people shop at), and.

    Tourist market. Those that pay tourist prices (think of it as shopping at a mall which is only open to tourists and that charges 4 times the local price).

    Facebook, La Isla, Fase 2, Loutron, Insta, Desperately Seeking are all part of the tourist market. Vendors here will charge what they can, I. E. What the tourist is willing to pay.
    Ok? Facebook and La isla, etc. Are tourist prices, where do you find local prices?

  4. #66980
    Quote Originally Posted by GreenBud  [View Original Post]
    Avianca flies that route. Avianca and LATAM code share.

    Speaking about flights, I want to rant! Why the hell did Avianca eliminate the direct LAX to Bogota route. The clerk said something about a rumour of Avianca not being able to get a license; that doesn't make sense. What was once a 6.5 hour direct flight is now a 10 hour flight with a layover in El Salvador.
    Thanks.

    Avianca always lad the MIA MDE. LATAM code shared with Delta. They were flying through June and stopped. Weird.

    I agree with you regarding Avianca LAX BOG. Wish there is LAX MDE flight. MDE needs more USA cities non-stop. May be an airport handling issue.

  5. #66979
    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    I think the worst part in Centro is The Bronx, or El Bron, as they tend to say. Its Calle 56 con Cra 54. Just a few blocks behind Nuti. You'd get some real good discounts down there.
    Ah, ok. I just walked down the street to the clubs on the street facing the park and got the rates I reported. That walk didn't seem bad at night. And then of course like 50 mil in Centro for rato.

    I do not need a further discount if that means a much more dangerous area haha.

  6. #66978
    Quote Originally Posted by JackTaggart  [View Original Post]
    But I think the different factors that go into this are things that every guy should have a realistic sense of where they fall and I think that can translate into price.
    You sir are spot on! This right there should settle the argument regarding how much X or why are paying.

  7. #66977
    Quote Originally Posted by Argo1990  [View Original Post]
    Now I wouldn't want to "exploit" a working girl but in my humble opinion most of these girls are just spoilt brats that are too lazy or influenced by social media and want to punch above their "class" / upbringing (nothing wrong with wanting more from life) and they choose the easiest way to attempt this, spreading their legs. End of story.
    That is very rarely, if ever, the case for girls going into this business. It may be a reason they stay in the business after getting accustomed to it, but no woman is brought up to want to be (as you so eloquently called them) a "hoe. " The majority of women are doing this because they are very poor and have no other real options. A place like Columbia doesn't have a vibrant social advancement platform and it is much harder to improve your situation with a lot of the barriers in the way. Abuse, at a young age, is rampant in the sex work community as well, either from family or friends and at the emotional or sexual level.

    As countries advance, there are more and more women who do sex work to just make some spare cash in college, but Columbia is not that place. It's why so many mongers in the west complain about the prices of women here because those women have minimum wage options and are doing sex work to avoid that. We go to places like Thailand and Columbia to use arbitrage and pay poorer girls for their service.

    There is no need to hide from that truth. As long as we pay a fair wage and treat the girls nicely, there is nothing wrong this. Sex work shouldn't be looked down upon, least of all by the johns, and we should all expect a level of respect from the girls and vice versa.

  8. #66976

    This will pass. In a few months it will go back to what it was.

    Quote Originally Posted by Orgasmico  [View Original Post]
    Anyone been affected by this list they are compiling of sex tourists? https://www.elcolombiano.com/medelli...lin-OC24511197.
    No. I was in Medellin last week and had no problem entering through airport immigration, however I am in my late 60's. I did notice many younger males in line and they slowed down the process quite a bit. The young, single males in line were getting questioned much more at the front booth and this made it much longer to get through. Heck, 75% of the non-Colombian airline passengers were young men 20-30, probably sex tourists!

    Sadly, this mayor is hurting his own businesses and using one or two examples of underaged girls to blast his political agenda. There will always be a case or two. Here the Mayor's own police were at fault for releasing the American suspect from jail the next day because he was "not caught in the act" of doing anything illegal to the 2 underaged girls found in his hotel room, and the suspect promptly left the country. It makes no sense to punish his own businesses, by requiring they close early for 2 weeks, and pay his police officers overtime to set up ID checks in the Parque Lleras area. He is simply trying to get re-elected as a protector of the Medellin families. Political stunts.

  9. #66975
    Anyone been affected by this list they are compiling of sex tourists? https://www.elcolombiano.com/medelli...lin-OC24511197.

  10. #66974
    Quote Originally Posted by JackTaggart  [View Original Post]
    I'm not sure how you define the bad part of town. It's near Centro. But when I hear "bad area of town" I think a place you are going to get robbed and assaulted .2 blocks from the nutty is a fully lite street and a busy street isn't a bad part of town.

    Now should you be walking actually in Centro at that hour. No. But that's not where the strip club is. I'm too gringo to know what the bad part of town is.
    I think the worst part in Centro is The Bronx, or El Bron, as they tend to say. Its Calle 56 con Cra 54. Just a few blocks behind Nuti. You'd get some real good discounts down there.

  11. #66973
    Quote Originally Posted by ObjJay  [View Original Post]
    The convenience and quality factor in the tourist market is worth the high price. If you can not speak Spanish, want girls who can speak some English, and are 8 to 10 in looks, then be ready to pay.
    Maybe it seems like I am picking on you because I'm responding to two of your posts back to back. But I'm just catching up.

    Not true in Medellin or Bogota. My Spanish is beyond horrible and I'm finding girls that speak English. Now granted it's more Bogota than Medellin. But it's really not true that you have to pay a huge premium. I don't say that to be cheap. But paying more doesn't result in a better experience. I've paid all ranges. I'm typically paying 200 mil for spinner university girl 18 to 21 for 2 to 3 hours+ BBFS.

    I am pretty experienced at this point. But back when I was not and just using seeking that was my experience too. Girls that charged a lot tended to have GPS and the experience just was not as good.

    And I'm in no way shape or form directing this at you. I don't know you. But I think age, personality, weight. Etc CAN play a factor. Money is an easy substitute for some. Or luck maybe. And people that go after surgery Instagram models / pros will have to pay more. Because the market for some reason puts a premium on that. But I think the different factors that go into this are things that every guy should have a realistic sense of where they fall and I think that can translate into price.

    I don't take issue with people paying more. But it's just not true that it's automatic that you have to. And I make this response to provide a little more context for other guys. Because it's not the same for everyone.

  12. #66972
    Quote Originally Posted by ObjJay  [View Original Post]
    The cover is the price you pay to enter the Strip Bar.

    If you take the girl to the rooms next / above the bar, you only pay the girl's fee (400 or 600 K). There must be some arrangement where the girl gets part of it.

    For good service, you should give a 10% Tip to the girl.

    If you want to take the girl to your hotel, you pay a bar fineI do not know how much as I have never tried it.

    If price is an issue, go to the bars in Centro. One night, a friend and I got drunk and ended up at a strip bar in a bad part of town where the girls were charging 100 K. Looking back what we did was stupid, don't try it.
    I'm not sure how you define the bad part of town. But at a strip club 2 blocks from the nutty (and thus 2 streets from Centro) it was 80 mil for Medio with bbj. 100 mil for BBFS. It was the one where you enter the rooms through the dj booth. It's near Centro. But when I hear "bad area of town" I think a place you are going to get robbed and assaulted .2 blocks from the nutty is a fully lite street and a busy street isn't a bad part of town.

    Now should you be walking actually in Centro at that hour. No. But that's not where the strip club is. I'm too gringo to know what the bad part of town is.

    This was 45 days ago.

  13. #66971
    Quote Originally Posted by Vitrea  [View Original Post]
    I can't find flights on LATAM from Miami to Medellin in July. I searched the Internet and I could not find any information or any cancellation announcement. Does anyone connected to airline business have any knowledge?

    And on the topic of Airlines, I wonder why Delta does not fly to MDE from Atlanta I think that would be a good market.
    Avianca flies that route. Avianca and LATAM code share.

    Speaking about flights, I want to rant! Why the hell did Avianca eliminate the direct LAX to Bogota route. The clerk said something about a rumour of Avianca not being able to get a license; that doesn't make sense. What was once a 6.5 hour direct flight is now a 10 hour flight with a layover in El Salvador.

  14. #66970

    Fb

    Quote Originally Posted by ObjJay  [View Original Post]
    Do I create a fake FB account and add girls from Instagram?
    Nounce has always done a beautiful job of looking out for the guys who do not RTFF. But to be fair the hieght of the FB days are probably behind us for most people but some of us are always going to be cruising FB for the new young fresh looking flaca -.

    If you want to learn you will have to do your home work and your first assignement is to go to this link to the Reports of Distiction thread and scroll down to find post #210 and post #212 - the one that says Facebook and the other says Facebook for newbies.

    http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...tinction/page2

  15. #66969
    Quote Originally Posted by Argo1990  [View Original Post]
    Cover means bar fine, I assume. Are the listed prices (400k or 600k respectively) short time / 1 hour all included or full night?
    The cover is the price you pay to enter the Strip Bar.

    If you take the girl to the rooms next / above the bar, you only pay the girl's fee (400 or 600 K). There must be some arrangement where the girl gets part of it.

    For good service, you should give a 10% Tip to the girl.

    If you want to take the girl to your hotel, you pay a bar fine—I do not know how much as I have never tried it.

    If price is an issue, go to the bars in Centro. One night, a friend and I got drunk and ended up at a strip bar in a bad part of town where the girls were charging 100 K. Looking back what we did was stupid, don't try it.

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