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  1. #176

    Chongo in San Sebastian

    Having read through the forum here for Cusco and not really interested in the $100 places listed such as Decamron Club and Cassanova Club I decided to inquire a bit as to other options. I had learned in Ecuador to never assume and always ask. So while in a taxi I ask the driver if there are any chongos (brothels) in Cusco. Of course he responds yes and tells me about a place in San Sebastian, just outside Cusco. He also mentions the previously mentioned expensive clubs but I tell him I want to check this place in San Sebastian.

    The place is called San Tutis (or San Tutas). It is located in a neighborhood called San Sebastion about 10 minutes outside of the center of Cusco. You drive in to a little compound and there are about 50 doors for rooms where the girls work out of. You walk around and check out the chicas, pick the one you want and go in her room. The price - 15 soles!

    This place is not for the weak kneed of course and is no high class joint. But I rather enjoyed it. There were a couple of really nice looking girls here. I picked out a nice 21 year old from Lima and she provided cbj and multiple positions.

    The taxi driver was great to, he walked around with me giving me his opiniones on the chicas he knew, and waited for me to take me back to town. Though there were plenty of other taxis there waiting if your taxi doesn´t want to wait.

    The taxi asked for 14 soles for there and back. I gave him 20 for hanging out and waiting.

    So 20 soles for taxi and 15 soles for chica. 35 soles total!!! So for future mongerers just ask a taxi to take you to the San Tutis (or San Tutas) chongo in San Sebastian.

  2. #175

    I didn't mean the white babes

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve 99
    Glad it worked out Rick. I just hate to see mongers do the 4 hour train in the morning then 3 hours at Machu then 4 hour train back all in same day--- nightmare.

    That hike up Waynu is steep and tiring. If only it wasn't foggy when I was on top. FYI - Tourists fall in machu every year and die.

    There are a ton of non-pro 20's type backpacker chicks everywhere in Cusco-Machu Pichu from all over the world. Too much effort to land them though in 2 days for me.

    Scratch a 7 wonders of the world off your list.
    The local babes in Cusco just ROCKED. There was one after another delicious babe on the street, in stores, restaurants, everywhere. I couldn't believe my eyes.

    The same rule applies as in Bangkok: do not look at any one babe for more than an instant because you'll see another in a moment.

    Anyway, I didn't meet any of them, dog tired from all the exercise.

    I would like to know how many tourists fall off wayna picchu every year. It must be quite a few. I saw a few chunky american pork chop babes trying to haul their butts up there, if they did it must have been a struggle to get down.

    Thanks again

    Rick

  3. #174
    Glad it worked out Rick. I just hate to see mongers do the 4 hour train in the morning then 3 hours at Machu then 4 hour train back all in same day--- nightmare.

    That hike up Waynu is steep and tiring. If only it wasn't foggy when I was on top. FYI - Tourists fall in machu every year and die.

    There are a ton of non-pro 20's type backpacker chicks everywhere in Cusco-Machu Pichu from all over the world. Too much effort to land them though in 2 days for me.

    Scratch a 7 wonders of the world off your list.

  4. #173

    Thanks Steve99. You rock dude

    Quote Originally Posted by Aurab
    I am going to be in Cuzco on November 14 and planning to visit Machu Pichu. If anybody is interested to join me going to Machu Pichu, pm me.

    Aurab
    Holy crap, what a trip, everything worked out perfectly exactly as you said.

    Arrived in Cusco on the plane from Lima and spent the night. I have never seen so many hot babes, wow wow wow. Too tired to chase down any of them but there are discos. E. G. Under the Savoy hotel, I'm sure you can meet them.

    I hired a taxi to take me to Ollantaytambo for $25, he threw in several interesting side trips including Chincheros along the way. We left at 11 and also had an hour for lunch, still made it in plenty of time for the 255 PM train from Ollantaytambo to Aguas Calientes.

    I stayed in the El Presidente overlooking the rapids with all the white noise, awesome. Aguas Calientes is a cool little town, no cars, the only access is by train. Somewhat pricey but worth it.

    I stayed two nights and was glad I did. I was up with the birds the first day and at machu picchu by 7. By 10 it was packed, so good to go early.

    It is pricey: S/ 20 for the bus and S/ 120 to get in, I had to pay for both days, still well worth it, no problem.

    I spent 7 hours there, the machu picchu ruins/city is quite large, needs time to go all around.

    The next day I climbed up wayna picchu and it is very very dangerous, be careful near the top. The stairs are like ladders and if you fall you go 3, 000 feet straight down. Gulp.

    Took the 120 train back to ollantaytambo, had arranged for the same driver to get me and take me back to Cusco

    Thanks again for all your help.

  5. #172

    Anybody to Cuzco on Nov 14?

    I am going to be in Cuzco on November 14 and planning to visit Machu Pichu. If anybody is interested to join me going to Machu Pichu, pm me.

    Aurab

  6. #171
    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Williams
    First, sorry I didn’t format my reply so you can clearly see what Steve 99 wrote in 183 vs. My questions, so here goes again. Steve says:

    1. Fly to Cuzco

    2. Taxi to Ollyanta

    3. 255 train to Aguas Calientes

    4. See Machu Picchu next day

    5. Train back to Ollyanta

    6. Taxi again to Cuzco

    7. Fly back to Lima

    Here is what I'm trying to do so I don't have to fiddle around at 5 or 6 a. M.

    A)fly to Cuzco stay overnight

    B)get to Aguas somehow middle of the day next day

    C)stay 2 nights at Aguas, visit Machu Picchu

    D)go back to Cuzco in the middle of the day

    E)overnight again in Cuzco

    F)fly back to Lima

    So what is the best way to go from Cuzco to Aguas Calientes in the middle of the day?

    I also need to know how long it takes to get a train ticket mid-November plus a Machu Picchu access pass for $43 (do I have to pay all that each day? ) plus a bus pass for $12.

    Sorry to drive you nuts about this, it's a very long trip from San Francisco, don't want to screw it up.
    There is another similar option, and that is to take the 1 day bus tour from Lima to the ruins and have them drop you off in Ollyanta and take the 7 pm train to Aquas Caliente. Once you get to AC, there are hostels along the railway track that back up to the river rapids so all night you hear the white noise of the rapids. My hostel was Adele's for $25 bucks a night, had a seperate entrance for privacy and nice bed. Good stuff. Steve's advice to spend the entire day at Macchu Picchu is noteworthy. Get up early and take the first bus, take a tour and then climb Wayapicchu and walk the trail to the bridge, go back and sleep it off and leave the next day. All worth it. the next day I trained back to Ollyanta and had a guy waiting for me with mountain bikes and spent the day going downhill. Another worthwhile adventure that was cheap, easy to arrange in Cusco and cost me about what it would have cost to cab back. I think, like Steve says, that it is a mistake to day trip to Macchu Picchu.

  7. #170

    Stud

    Thanks a TON steve for taking all the time to put in the details.

    I'll get everything arranged and post it here next week, then after my trip mid-November I will post what actually happened LOL and we can laugh over the differences.

    Thanks again

    Rick

  8. #169
    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Williams
    So what is the best way to go from Cuzco to Aguas Calientes in the middle of the day?

    I also need to know how long it takes to get a train ticket mid-November plus a Machu Picchu access pass for $43 (do I have to pay all that each day? ) plus a bus pass for $12.

    Sorry to drive you nuts about this, it's a very long trip from San Francisco, don't want to screw it up.
    Ok this is simple. Well kind of.

    Understand that the trains that leave from cusco all leave early. No way around that from Cusco.

    So you have to go to Ollantaytamo to catch a 2:55 train to Agus Calienete.

    So how far is Ollantaytamo from Cusco -- FAR. Its an hour and half ride by cab. It costs about $30 though you could probably get it cheaper.

    Now getting any ticket out of peru rail is a total pain in the ass. They only do it by email and it takes them forever to get back to you. Then you would have to pick that ticket up in Cusco somewhere in the morning so you would have it for the train ride. I don't think you can pick up the ticket in Ollantaytamo.

    You want to go to Sacred Valley part of the peru rail site. Get the round trip ticket from Ollantaytamo to Aguis Caliente.

    The hotel you are staying in Aguis Caliente will often pick the train ticket up for you and arrange the cab. Gringo Bills did that for me for a small fee. I would recommend this highly.

    Now the benefit of this is you do not have to ride the train for 4 hours. It is only an hour and a half ride. You end of paying about the same when you figure in cab costs. The cab ride is cool.

    Once you are in Aguis Caliente you can buy the Machu Pichu entrance ticket and bus ticket there. No need to pre-order that.

    You could bypass the whole Ollyanta thing and get your ass up early and take the trains from Cusco in that you are staying in Cusco first night.

  9. #168

    I hope this Machu Picchu question is clearer

    First, sorry I didn’t format my reply so you can clearly see what Steve 99 wrote in 183 vs. My questions, so here goes again. Steve says:

    1. Fly to Cuzco

    2. Taxi to Ollyanta

    3. 255 train to Aguas Calientes

    4. See Machu Picchu next day

    5. Train back to Ollyanta

    6. Taxi again to Cuzco

    7. Fly back to Lima

    Here is what I'm trying to do so I don't have to fiddle around at 5 or 6 a. M.

    A)fly to Cuzco stay overnight

    B)get to Aguas somehow middle of the day next day

    C)stay 2 nights at Aguas, visit Machu Picchu

    D)go back to Cuzco in the middle of the day

    E)overnight again in Cuzco

    F)fly back to Lima

    So what is the best way to go from Cuzco to Aguas Calientes in the middle of the day?

    I also need to know how long it takes to get a train ticket mid-November plus a Machu Picchu access pass for $43 (do I have to pay all that each day? ) plus a bus pass for $12.

    Sorry to drive you nuts about this, it's a very long trip from San Francisco, don't want to screw it up.

  10. #167

    Please help with a bit more detail on how to go to Machu Picchu

    What you are going to do is stay at Aguis Calenente the first night. This is the village below Machu Pichu. I stayed at Gringo Bills which is kinda expensive at $75 USD bucks but is cool built into the mountain. So you fly into Cusco from Lima in the morning. Then you take a cab from Cusco to Ollyanta. This is the last stop on the train before it goes onto to Ague Calentes. The train you want to get is the 2:55 pm train. The cab ride is about an hour and a half but is cool scenery going through the Sacred Valley. I paid $30 USD for this ride but you can get it cheaper. Gringo Bills can set it up for you. Also you need to get your train ticket through the hotel so the cab driver will have the ticket for you.

    Then you take the train back to Ollyanta and take cab into Cusco and stay the night in Cusco and get a headache from the high altitude. I stayed 2 nights in Cusco which was about right. I planned on 1 but extended it to 2.

    Thanks a ton for all the info but I'm still a little bit lost. Here's what I understood:

    1. Fly to cuzco, I have a ticket already

    2. I'll stay one afternoon and overnight in cuzco, sounds cool.

    3. Then I had figured out that I need to stay in aguas calientes to be close enough to take a short bus ride to machu picchu. I was just going to take a daytime train (not some 6 a. M. Thing) and go comfortably the next day to aguas, sleep there overnight

    4. See machu picchu next day and sleep over in aguas again.

    5. Go to machu again if it was foggy day before or just take the train whenever back to cuzco sleep overnight there again.

    6. Fly back to Lima

    So where and why does ollyanta come into this?

    What is the simplest and shortest way to get from cuzco to aguas calientes and back again?

    I'm not in a hurry, just want it real simple.

    Thanks a ton guys

  11. #166
    Can anyone give me a good monger freindly hotel, that is on the inexpensive side (say, 30bucks or under).

    Any updates on MPs?

  12. #165
    apparently the women in Cusco are free...just buy them a drink,dance with them and an hour later tell them you are going and ask them along.


    ps...don´t tell anyone.

  13. #164
    You got it Polvo!

  14. #163

    Go ahead, bust my balls

    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Bill
    ...Go ahead, bust my balls, I should have listened to you.......I´d spend a couple of more days in Cuzco so I could relax a bit and take a slower pace.....Besides, I wanted to do it the wrong way as a personal sacrifice to this forum, to set an example and help others on the board who might have been considering doing it my way too, so that those who come after me can learn from my mistakes and not make them themselves.
    Quote Originally Posted by Polvo
    Arequipa is also recommended but time is your enemy on this!! If you sink 5 days in Cusco, 7 days in Lima, 5 days in Iquitos - you can see the issue!!
    Doc:
    There are some who would say, "why make mistakes when you were carefully guided". Me, I'll accept a beer from you next week!! LOL

    Suerte!

    Polvo

  15. #162
    Quote Originally Posted by Clodbuster
    Hey Steve - Thanks for the detailed report. My question - I have heard that you need reservations and tickets in advance to visit Machu Pichu. You report sounds like you can just folow your advice and do it "spur of the moment". Do you need advance reservations for the visit? Thanks.
    YES!! The train is where you need reservations. I highly recommend wherever you stay to have your hotel get the train tickets. You pay a surcharge but it is small.

    If you go my route and stay at Aguis Calente first night you need to have the hotel get your train ticket and arrange your taxi. That way when you get off the plaine the cab is there to take you to Ollyanta and also has the train ticket.

    You cannot wing it with the train. They are full from what I saw. Now if it was off season maybe yes but I wouldn't risk it.

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