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  1. #26
    [QUOTE]Originally posted by DanDaMan
    [i]Hi Xthrax,

    Glad to hear you are taking an extended trip similar to me. I can't tell you how many people have written me asking for info on Cuzco and are only going to spend 2-3 days there. I too am presently studying Pimsleur Portuguese and will be in Brazil. I plan on taking an Amazon River trip from Iquitos to Manaus to Belem. What is your anticipated route? I have contemplated entering Brazil from Madre de Dios (Puerto Maldonado) or Bolivia, but it seems much more difficult.

    I will be gone for two months starting in Brazil, then going to B.A., Lima, La Paz, Cusco, then to San Jose, Costa Rica and finally onward to Guatamala City and Antigua Guatemala.
    I will be posting reports of how they are (imho) relative to each other!
    Thank you for the help!

  2. #25
    Hi Xthrax,

    Glad to hear you are taking an extended trip similar to me. I can't tell you how many people have written me asking for info on Cuzco and are only going to spend 2-3 days there. I too am presently studying Pimsleur Portuguese and will be in Brazil. I plan on taking an Amazon River trip from Iquitos to Manaus to Belem. What is your anticipated route? I have contemplated entering Brazil from Madre de Dios (Puerto Maldonado) or Bolivia, but it seems much more difficult.

    With respect to fresh cholita-hunting grounds close to Cuzco, I am going to visit Quillabamba. It's on the edge of the jungle on the other side of Machupicchu. I have met several cholitas on the internet from there and it seems like a great place to find cholitas.

    With respect to shoes, I have given up on hiking boots and will be relying on my New Balance jogging shoes. In addition, I will have my clean and shinned Black Reebok DMX walking shoes for the city. Yes, it's a lot to haul, but I'm going to be gone for almost a year on this trip. I wouldn't count on getting shoes in Peru, especially if you have big american-size feet. In general, they just don't have larger size shoes there.

    Incaroca, what you said makes a lot of sense and I agree. After the Iraq adventure, the world will only hate Americans more and this is not good for travellers like myself. I can only imagine what Peruvians are saying behind my back. The differences in culture are very interesting and necessary to understand if you are to be successful in Latin America. Often, what's acceptable and common behavior in the US is unacceptable in Peru. In addition to shoes, a good example is bargaining. Americans love to haggle and this is frowned upon by peruvians. So, if you want to impress your new cholita girlfriend, don't embarass yourself by bargaining or appearing cheap. After all, they're looking for rich gringos who don't worry about money.

    One more tip for Cuzco, especially if you are flying there from sea-level, is to take a prophylatic for altitude sickness ("soroche" in spanish). The locals will all tell you to drink a lot of coca tea. However, you might also consider taking the drug Diamox (acetazolamide) which can be found at many pharmacies in Peru. If you decide to use the drug, I suggest Diamox 125 mg (half of one tablet) is taken twice daily as a trial at sea level for two days several weeks before a visit to high altitude. Assuming no unpleasant side effects are experienced, take the drug in the same dose for three days before arrival in Cuzco and thereafter for two or three days until you feel acclimatized, for about five days in all. It beats spending three days with a horrible headache due to altitude sickness.

    If I can give anyone else any other tips, please write me at DanDaMan93906@yahoo.com.

  3. #24
    Originally posted by DanDaMan
    Xthrax,

    I think you have zeroed in on the key to "penetrating" these cholitas and the culture (pun intended). You have to learn the language.
    Yes you will be a big hit with these cholitas if you are a gringo that speaks decent spanish. Appearance is very important to latins. They will think poorly of you if you are poorly dressed and groomed. One very important thing is to keep your shoes clean and shinned, !
    Got Pimsleur Portuguese and speak Spanish like a 6 year old, thanks for other language help though!

    Clean Hiking Boots and Levis?
    Any tips on how you guys pack to hunt Cholitas while on Vacation?

    I was told to pack light, but I am also touring Brazil first. Later Guatemala.

    OK to have one dress up shirt and khakis or levis and wear with boots? Or, are shoes cheap up there?
    I will be in Central and South America about two months total and my list of crap to bring is getting huge. Better efficiency equals better mongering right?
    I appreciate your quick responses to my previous question incaroca and Dandaman!
    Also, is there a closer spot to Cuzco where there is fresh hunting grounds, besides Huaycayo?

  4. #23
    Hey dandaman!!

    I agree with you that Spanish people hav a history in America to forget (murder, gold search, slavery)...its ok, but like all the other european empires. At least, now exist thousands of indigenous people in Peru, so...and in USA?? It exist a society of mestizos in USA?? No....only in the spanish countries!! We hadent problem to join us with indian girls, but repressive mentality anglosaxon was stronger, and avoid that!! I think that conquest was more effective there, there arent enough indians like in Peru.

    But apart of that, I Think that peruvian people are very intelligent..why? because the majority of them that I have talked , said that they were proud of his origins mestizos, the mixture with spanish-indian people! They wanted to please me..and then always are complaining about the power and arrogant USA country!! So....It exist a contradiction? No, they only want to be good with the tourist, friend, lover...and they will change her plot depending on the person and his country!!

    Xthrax
    About the question of cholitas....well, you dont have to go to a lost town in the country to find them. There are hundreds of cholitas studing in Cusco, Huancayo, etc... who speaks english, want to travel and know different people. With a few words of spanish you can be good!!

  5. #22
    xthrax,

    i think you have zeroed in on the key to "penetrating" these cholitas and the culture (pun intended). you have to learn the language. the secret to learning a foreign language is to enjoy it. generally, you can't learn a foreign language easily in a classroom as there just isn't enough exposure by only attending a class. better to hire a tutor or spend time with spanish-speaking friends. by far the easiest and fastest way to start learning a foreign language is pimsleur (www.pimsleur.com). michel thomas is also very good and concentrates on the verbs. you can find both with peer-to-peer network programs such emule and winmx. in winmx visit the learn a language chat group (or language central). tell them that dandaman sent you.

    yes you will be a big hit with these cholitas if you are a gringo that speaks decent spanish. strangely, although spaniards know the language, they are not well liked in peru (sorry incaroca). many peruvians expressed their resentment of spaniards with me, but i'm not sure why because in mexico everyone seemed to brag about their spanish ancestry. anyway, this puts us non-native speakers of spanish in a very positive light. incredibly, most peruvians assume that all the foreigners they see are americans, when in reality only about 10% are. too bad for us americans, because when an obnoxious european offends a peruvian, they will assume they are americans. so remember when you are in peru, you are not only representing yourself but your country (and members of the wsgforum). appearance is very important to latins. they will think poorly of you if you are poorly dressed and groomed. one very important thing is to keep your shoes clean and shinned, something that is not very important in the us. so please be respectful of the people and culture and let them know that those obnoxious, unbathed, poorly-dressed foreigners are not americans.

    one last comment on nibu and his incessant insulting of cholitas. he has very eccentric tastes in women and activities. if you read through his archives you will see that he is fond of getting blow jobs from 65 year-old toothless *****s, which is fine, but to each his own. i remember telling him how i don't like old women and prefer younger cholitas with firm tits, and he replied "what's wrong with saggy tits." i'm going to stick with my young cholitas. they're the best!

  6. #21
    [QUOTE]Originally posted by incaroca
    [i]I agree with you Dandaman.....cholitas are the best!!
    Maybe Nibu you dont like them, eveybody has different tastes, but I found a treasure with them!!
    They are nice, shy, beatiful..and likes sex a lot!!
    This place was Huancayo, in the middle of the sierra, a city full of indigenous people...so, its easy to find and try a lot of those beatiful inca princesses. In the Plaza the Armas, and specially evening-night, there are a lot of them walking, chating...and If you are a westerner maybe all the eyes will looking at you!! You are rare in this off-tourist cities!!
    If you talk decent sapanish you can start conversations with a lot of this girls, invite them to go to a chifa, etc.. [i]

    hey incaroca, or others with knowledge of this phenomenom,
    how decent is decent spanish? i know basic verbs, some sex lingo from TJ, but my opportunity to go to Peru arrived before my mastery of Spanish.
    Any tips on picking up indig non-pro girls that are really into westerners?

  7. #20
    I would like to share the following email messages that I received and sent with everyone in the Forum. Hopefully this will prevent anyone from being "taken to the cleaners." The messages go from newest (on top) to oldest (on bottom). If anyone else needs any advise on Cuzco, please contact me at DanDaMan93906@yahoo.com. This advise seems to have saved Dan C. $600.

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    Hey DanDaMan:

    Thanks for the advice, I did it my self as you suggested and spent a little over 300 total. Macchu Pichu was awesome though I wish I had spent a night there instead of cramming it all into one day.

    I am in Miraflores as I write this and had a great time. I shall return!

    Thanks again for the advice

    Dan C

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    Hi Dan C,

    Boy did they try to take you to the cleaners. Rates will be a little higher in the summer, but the summer soltice festival is over, so you should be okay. I recommend making reservations before hand and you can cancel or negociate a better rate once you get there. I only paid 9$ per night (breakfast included) so there are plenty of bargains. I'm not sure what class of hotel you are interested in, so let me know if you want the royal treatment or the economy route that I take.

    A word of caution. You will probably spend your whole time in Cuzco with altitude sickness if you don't take some medicine first. Have your doctor prescribe some prophylactic treatment. Also, leave Cuzco as soon as possible and head for Machupicchu, which is lower in elevation. The best tour company is SAS. Tours are relatively cheap. A friend got me an all day tour of the sacred valley for $12, and an afternoon city-tour for $6. Also, flights can be very cheap and should not be over $150 round-trip. Check out www.taca.com. I got a round-trip ticket via the internet for $125 (tax included).

    So, I would guess you shouldn't have to pay more than $300 for your trip to Cuzco (airfare included).

    Be sure to write me and let me know what kind of hotel you want.

    You're going to love Cuzco and Machupicchu!

    DanDaMan

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    Dan c <***************@yahoo.com> wrote:

    Hello DanDaMan,

    Thanks for your informative posts on WSG. I will be going to Peru next week. Some tour guide wanted $900 for 2 night/3 days in Cusco and MP.

    I decided to fly from Lima myself. But I will be a fish out of water when I land there. I would appreciate it very much If you could recommend a hotel and a good tour company.

    Thanks very much

    Dan C

  8. #19
    I was in Cusco on my way to MP (5 day hike - what a TRIP) so I figure I'd put in my 2 cents on the hobby. I was only in Cusco for a day before and a day after my MP excursion but here goes.

    All this talk of cholitas is pretty interesting to me. I WISHED I had KNOWN! lol, but...

    As you all may know there are several discos in Cusco and they ALL look to have as many people pack them every night. There are girls hired to stand outside in the street and pass out free drink cards and dance cards to get you to choose THEIR disco. Some of these girls are hot as hell.

    On our night AFTER our hike, we were all high on life and could do no wrong. So I met this 18 yr old (or so she said) local girl passing out drink cards. About 5' tall very slim, caramel skin (oh she had great skin) loooong brown straight hair all the way down her back (34b or so) her butt fit into the palm of my hands like 2 ripe oranges! I made it CLEAR to her that a drink was fine but I wanted MUCH more for my friend and I that evening. We went upstairs, bellied up to the bar and got a beer. 10 minutes later, the ballsie lil ho called my bluff LOL She brought over a friend for my friend and the GAME WAS ON.

    We left, went to her local home to smoke a little weed and then negotiated FS for only 20 soles a piece. Of course I forked over the $4 so my friend could have a good time because thats the kind of guy I am! Not bad, and she was terrific. Only BAD part? When I walked her back to the disco she was saying hi to EVERY GUY we walked past on the street. THANK GOD I own stock in Trojan!

    That was the 1st time I ever paid for sex (except when I was MARRIED) and I wasn't disappointed. A very positive experience for this newbie!

    Kachta

  9. #18
    Ok Razor! You have reason, most of the cholitas of Cuzco and other places arent 100x100 pure race. But the cholitas that I fucked (what a nice regard ), maybe had 80 of indian and 20 of spanish or other type, so fisically their appareance was more cholita type of girl (oriental eyes, large and brunnette hair and body) than european type.
    Also I agree with you that Indian society are very conservative, so if you go to a mountain town wont be easy (maybe imposible) looking for a cholitas pussie....but city cholitas (like Cuzco, Huancayo, etc..) have and open mentality (well, most of them), and are fascineted with american or european culture and way of life (and of course...trying to hunt some tourist). So, its easy to have succes.
    Are you agree?

  10. #17
    Hi Incaroca,

    I think you're wrong when you said you're having an indigeneus women in Cusco, they're actually MESTIZAS (Blend between indigenous-spanish ancestors) the real "indiecitas" are hard to get, they live mostly up on the
    mountains. I'll suggested to go to Chincheros, Pisac or other small villages and maybe you'll know (sexually) these girls, but I doubt it. Las cholitas can be find in any South American country from Mexico to Argentina.

    Happy hunting..Enjoy it.

  11. #16
    Incarcoca,

    How are you my fellow cholita-chaser? I am planning a trip to Peru this spring and wanted to find out if you might by chance be there at the same time. It sounds like you have traveled quite a bit in the Sierra and might have some travel tips.

    I will be in Peru at the end of May and begining of June, and I will spend most of my time in and near Cuzco. I'd like to visit Iquitos too, but it's just too expensive and time consuming to fly there for a few nights of fun. I love Charapitas, but due to time limitations, I plan on spending most of my time around Cuzco chasing Cholitas. Please let me know if you or anyone else will be in Cuzco at that time. We could meet up and do some exploring together.

    I've been thinking about visiting the jungle town of Puerto Maldonaldo to satisfy my lust for Charapitas. It has direct flights from Cuzco ($50) and to Lima ($70). This will only add 50 bucks to my transportation costs on my way back to Lima to catch my flight to the US. Last trip it added $160 to my transportation costs to go to Iquitos from Cuzco and I wasted almost an entire day on delays and layovers in Lima and Pucallpa. If you fly domestically in Peru, avoid the airline TANS. TANS really sucks.

    If you or anyone else have any info on Puerto Maldonaldo, please post it.

    Your fellow Cholita Connoisseur,

    DanDaMan

  12. #15
    I agree with you Dandaman.....cholitas are the best!!
    Maybe Nibu you dont like them, eveybody has different tastes, but I found a treasure with them!!
    They are nice, shy, beatiful..and likes sex a lot!!

    If somebody wants to know real ones cholitas...I recommend different places, not as crowded of tourists like Cusco. Here there are a lot a cholitas that are pro, and its difficult to contact with a non-pro. This place was Huancayo, in the middle of the sierra, a city full of indigenous people...so, its easy to find and try a lot of those beatiful inca princesses. In the Plaza the Armas, and specially evening-night, there are a lot of them walking, chating...and If you are a westerner maybe all the eyes will looking at you!! You are rare in this off-tourist cities!!
    If you talk decent sapanish you can start conversations with a lot of this girls, invite them to go to a chifa, etc.. I was lucky, and I met 2 diffent girls (and 2 differents pussies, of course ) in 4 days!! Everyone nonpros...and specially the first one, Elena, was an incredibly beatiful cholita, 19 years old, taller than the normal size, with a ashtonishing body. They like to fuck,....One of her reasons was that she wanted to prove a good dick (well, I have a normal size), diferent that the cholos. Both adored to blow (one of the things that surprised me), like it was a candy!

    I recommend Huancayo for cholitas pussies connoseurs!!

  13. #14
    Nibu, I posted in the General Info section because I was replying to Johan's comments on Cuzco. Sorry about the lack of information on *****s and clubs; I was just too busy with my Cholita and exploring ancient Inca ruins. I'm just going to have to return to explore more of Cuzco. Here's that message, I hope it provides some useful info for future visitors to Cuzco --

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    In my humble opinion, Cuzco rules!

    Johan, the airfare from Lima to Cuzco is only $70 via Aerocontinente. So thats $140 roundtrip, not $300. In addition, the hotels can be as cheap as Lima, and I only paid $9 (not $25) for a nice room with private bath and breakfast included. I had an american friend who was paying only $7. Also the hotel was close to the Plaza and had a nice little electric heater as it's cold at night in Cuzco. You are right about the altitude sickness. I didn't feel right for about 3 days (headaches and fatigue). They say you should drink lots of coca tea to recover quicker. Johan, I don't know how you would manage to spend $550 in 4 days! Even the tours were economical. An all-day Sacred Valley tour for $12 and an afternoon City Tour for $6 (I took the spanish-speaking tours with GatuTours which is the best company). I made the 4 day hike (Camino Inka) to Machupicchu which included everything (transportation, food, camping equipment, tour guide, porters, etc.) for only $150 (this included the $50 hiker's entrance fee to Machupicchu and $30 Backpacker Train fare). Food was cheap too. The "menu" (meal of the day) is only 4 soles (about $1) at many restaurants in Cuzco. The more economical restaurants are near the market where you can pay 2.50 soles for an entire meal, drink included. With respect to transportation, Cuzco is cheaper than Lima in that the basic taxi fare is only 2 soles. Most fares in Lima will be in the 5 - 15 soles. All in all, Cuzco can be as cheap or cheaper than Lima. Write me at [Email address deleted by Admin] and I can give you more specifics on hotels, restaurants, tours, etc.

    Johan, with respect to the girl scene in Cuzco. I really had my hands full. I couldn't begin to handle all the wonderful cholitas I met. I bet they would even like a "big dutchman" like yourself as long as you speak a little spanish.

    With repect to speaking spanish, this is the real key. Being a non-native speaker of castellano, I have been working on my spanish language skills for many years. Recently, I came across some excellent spanish language resources on the web (Kazaa, newgroups, etc) that really helped. One is called Pimsleur. They are 4 courses (Spanish I, II, III, and Spanish Plus). There are no books, just audio. In no time you will be speaking spanish like a pro! Also, check out the spanish course by Michel Thomas. It is similar to Pimsleur in that they are no books but concentrates more on grammer and verbs. Both are excellent and will really help develop the language skills you need for girlfriend action.

    EDITOR's NOTE: This report was edited to removal of email addresses in the text. Please do not post email addresses in the Forum. Instead, please use the Forum's Private Messaging system to communicate directly with other Forum Members. Thanks!
    Last edited by Member #3407; 12-25-02 at 22:54.

  14. #13
    Incaroca,

    I'm glad there's someone else that appreciates the indigenous women of South America. Nibu keeps on telling me how the cholitas are ugly and have small tits. If I wanted a white girl, I wouldn't be in South America. The girls in the Sierra are very exotic and beautiful to me. But perhaps more important is the way they treat me. Compared to limeñas and iquiteñas, they are very faithful and hard-working. In general, you can trust the people in Cuzco. I remember trying to tip people in my hotel and they refused to accept the tip. They became good friends and were more interested in my friendship than money. Sometimes there's things more important than money and easy sex.

    With respect to sex with cholitas, I too had a similar experience in that my girl didn't want to use condoms. I really love these cholitas! It's really difficult to return to the US and the spoiled women there. They just aren't the same quality as the women in the Sierra of Peru.

  15. #12
    Hi Dandaman!!

    I'm totally agree with you!! I love cholitas!! They are great!

    I'm a spanish guy who visited Cusco last October! First of all..when I go abroad, I prefer to taste the local pussies. In my country, Spain, there are lots of blonde, brunnettes, latinas girls. And for me its stupid to go at the other sido of the sea to look for them. So, If I visit a new country, I prefer indegenous girls. And my surprise was great to find beautifull cholitas not only in Cusco!! They are petite, with black and brilliant hair, brunette skin...of course..some of them are ugly, but like in all the countries!!
    In Cusco I visit plaza de armas looking for BRITCHERAS (so..local girls looking for westerners to marry). Yes!! Here I knew Laura..a beatiful cholita, so sweet!! We were 4 days in Cusco both. Of course...I only wanted sex, so, the times whe fucked she tries to do it withou rubber (I dont wanted a baby!! ). But she was incredible..with a shaven pussy..and the most fabulous!! after do it ( this was in 2 occasions) a great blowjob..se swallowed the cum!!!
    So..I recommend to be alert for britcheras, in plaza de armas
    Nice experience!!

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