Vienna

[Diet Coke]

Booked Mimi through booksusi. Good pics online etc and good reviews. One of the reviews was that she was short, which I didn't pay much attention to. I do like petite, so who cares.

She shows up to my hotel, I open the door and literally this tiny woman walks in. She must be 4'10' at best and thin as a stick. LOL. She is romanian, very sweet and kind, willing to take instructions. Price is per shot though and she does not DFK which I already knew and was fine with me. All in all, it was a good session but I still can't get over the shock of seeing her for the first time.

Would I repeat. No only because of my preferences. I would recommend to someone who has her type on their list.

Was this your Mim on BS? 26.

Jahre.

150.

Cm.

55.

Kg.

A If so, BS shows only visitable and speaking German and Hungarian. How about the BS link.

[CDelta011]

Booked Mimi through booksusi. Good pics online etc and good reviews. One of the reviews was that she was short, which I didn't pay much attention to. I do like petite, so who cares.

She shows up to my hotel, I open the door and literally this tiny woman walks in. She must be 4'10' at best and thin as a stick. LOL. She is romanian, very sweet and kind, willing to take instructions. Price is per shot though and she does not DFK which I already knew and was fine with me. All in all, it was a good session but I still can't get over the shock of seeing her for the first time.

Would I repeat. No only because of my preferences. I would recommend to someone who has her type on their list.

[Tintin1]

Next were the escorts on BookSusi.

As someone previously said, the only place you should go is GoldenTime. Anyhow, I see a nice girl who's talking with this germanic silver fox. They go back to the rooms and I intercept her on her way back from getting paid. She tells me "I'm going to smoke. " Very professional: the But whatever, I follow her outside and we chat. She asks for a drink, and I oblige (they're 5 euros each). We talk for a solid 30 more minutes. She tells me she's here from Globe in Zurich, and how the prices and service are better there and she doesn't like how the initial price is low here and the service along with it. It seems I have a gift for picking them I ask her the prices at Globe, and she says 150/30 but you get a GFE. I'm like ok, let's do it. I probably should have negotiated for an hour, as knowing myself I usually go for 2 sessions with a new girl (especially when she's 20). I ended up paying her 150/30 twice. No regrets there..

OK onto two points.

I find BookSusi to be like every other ad site, if you check the reviews, you might be OK. I compare to the local boards and to Lusthaus.

Do you remember the name of this lady from Globe who is now at GT. Will be there in a few weeks and wouldn't mind a shot at her. No pun intended.

[MonSooner]

Any words or wisdom on Maxim. I keep seeing club is small, but is that like 3-4 girls or more?

Depending on the season and kind of the weekday. Between 8-18 girls. Before the lockdowns between 15-30 girls.

[CDelta011]

Any words or wisdom on Maxim. I keep seeing club is small, but is that like 3-4 girls or more?

I spent a month in Vienna, trying out various options which I'll describe below. If you don't feel like reading, the tl; dr is go to GoldenTime and bring cash (preferably from OberBank or WSK which have no ATM fees).

First I tried the laufhauses. I went to Juchgasse (thinking it would be high-end) and later Ici Paris (low-end). I liked the setup. Multiple floors, each girl has their own apartment. You can see their photos on a screen outside (Juchgasse) or a poster (Ici Paris). Green signs indicate the girl is free, and you can knock on the door. I saw this older Austrian guy knock and no one answered (guess the girls don't answer if they don't like how you look). Unfortunately, the girls looked very little like the pictures. The difference was almost comical. Knock on the door and someone much uglier and older answers. Worse still, most of the girls did not look happy to be there. The prices were 100 euros for 30 minutes. Only one girl I talked to was open to kisses. Overall, I found nothing I liked so didn't partake.

Next were the escorts on BookSusi. My go-to resource, EuroGirlEscort, was poorly stocked in Vienna. There were a few girls which looked decent at 160 euros an hour, but the price seemed too good. BookSusi is a website which seems like it was made in the 1990's, but it did have a good number of reviews. The reviewed girls usually didn't show faces and I was wary after my laufhaus experiences about how they would look. I picked one girl who was 250/ h, which is admittedly towards the upper range for Vienna. I couldn't see her face but the reviews were good and her body looked great. I sent her a message asking what her services were and the ensuring conversation was rather off-putting and unprofessional in my experience. I didn't get great vibes so I declined to see her..

[TedFerguson]

I spent a month in Vienna, trying out various options which I'll describe below. If you don't feel like reading, the tl; dr is go to GoldenTime and bring cash (preferably from OberBank or WSK which have no ATM fees).

First I tried the laufhauses. I went to Juchgasse (thinking it would be high-end) and later Ici Paris (low-end). I liked the setup. Multiple floors, each girl has their own apartment. You can see their photos on a screen outside (Juchgasse) or a poster (Ici Paris). Green signs indicate the girl is free, and you can knock on the door. I saw this older Austrian guy knock and no one answered (guess the girls don't answer if they don't like how you look). Unfortunately, the girls looked very little like the pictures. The difference was almost comical. Knock on the door and someone much uglier and older answers. Worse still, most of the girls did not look happy to be there. The prices were 100 euros for 30 minutes. Only one girl I talked to was open to kisses. Overall, I found nothing I liked so didn't partake.

Next were the escorts on BookSusi. My go-to resource, EuroGirlEscort, was poorly stocked in Vienna. There were a few girls which looked decent at 160 euros an hour, but the price seemed too good. BookSusi is a website which seems like it was made in the 1990's, but it did have a good number of reviews. The reviewed girls usually didn't show faces and I was wary after my laufhaus experiences about how they would look. I picked one girl who was 250/ h, which is admittedly towards the upper range for Vienna. I couldn't see her face but the reviews were good and her body looked great. I sent her a message asking what her services were and the ensuring conversation was rather off-putting and unprofessional in my experience. I didn't get great vibes so I declined to see her.

As someone previously said, the only place you should go is GoldenTime. Entrance is 95 euros. The front desk staff behaved mostly like robots with zero hospitality, but it's fairly typical for Vienna. You lock your stuff in a locker, take a shower with a bunch of mostly naked dudes (the showers only barely work), strap the key they give you to your wrist, and lock your money in a second, smaller locker closer to the main action. The club itself is reasonably sized, with a few dozen girls. I found maybe 3 I liked out of all of them (I'm picky). There was the typical weird approaches: a duo offering massage, a girl immediately offering a blowjob, chunky girls, etc. I love how they approach with a positive attitude and when you politely decline, their mood turns to pure ice I didn't talk to a single girl who wasn't Romanian or Moldovan.

Like the German FKKs, it amazes me how for such a nicely decorated place with women walking around naked, which should have a fun, festive vibe yet manages to have an uncomfortable, shitty vibe. The sadness and detachment of the girls, combined with the detachment of the dudes was off-putting for me. Anyhow, I see a nice girl who's talking with this germanic silver fox. They go back to the rooms and I intercept her on her way back from getting paid. She tells me "I'm going to smoke. " Very professional: the But whatever, I follow her outside and we chat. She asks for a drink, and I oblige (they're 5 euros each). We talk for a solid 30 more minutes. She tells me she's here from Globe in Zurich, and how the prices and service are better there and she doesn't like how the initial price is low here and the service along with it. It seems I have a gift for picking them I ask her the prices at Globe, and she says 150/30 but you get a GFE. I'm like ok, let's do it. I probably should have negotiated for an hour, as knowing myself I usually go for 2 sessions with a new girl (especially when she's 20). I ended up paying her 150/30 twice. No regrets there.

As I'm leaving something weird happened. As I'm putting on my clothes, I realized I forgot my cash in the robe which I put on the stack of robes. I start going through the robes and an attendant comes up to me and asks what's up. I told him I left my money in my robe and he insists to look through them. When he finds it (3rd robe down or so), he insists on taking the money to the security guy. He hands it to him like a clandestine handoff, like a "here boss, look what I found for you". The security guy thankfully is German (Austrian? He asks what happened. I tell him and he gives me the money back. The attendant (as most of the cleaning staff) are Romanian. Weird interaction and again added to the crap ambiance of the place. Nevertheless, I would go back if I'm back in Vienna as it's really the only game in town.

I also tried Seeking, which flopped pretty badly. In 4 weeks there, I went out on 1 date. I had a long conversation with a Slovak girl who ultimately never made it to Vienna. A short conversation with a Slovenian girl living in Vienna, who was upset with the idea I would pay more if she was prettier (I asked her for unedited pictures). The only positive interaction was with an Austrian girl who I took out to dinner, talked to and ultimately decided not to take back to my apartment mainly because I was pretty sure she didn't have a nice body. I give up on Caucasian women, I'm going back to warmer places with Latin women as those seem to be more to my liking. Nicer bodies and none of the negative vibes.

Vienna is a beautiful city, maybe one of the most beautiful in Europe, worth visiting even if the girls aren't anything to write home about. I really enjoyed the food, and even if some of the people were not friendly, most were quite pleasant.

If you also hate ATM fees, I've found Oberbank and WSK have no fees. Raffiesen has a fee of 3. 5 euros per withdrawal.

[Skarz]

Hi! I am wondering, which is the best club to go: GT or Maxim? I am looking for natural girls about 8/10 and a clean place. Let me know please! Thanks.

If you want an FKK then only GT is a good solution and the lineup is good, also the number of girls.

Maxim has a much smaller lineup but in both clubs you will find 8's and 9's out of 10.

[Peter7899]

Hi! I am wondering, which is the best club to go: GT or Maxim? I am looking for natural girls about 8/10 and a clean place. Let me know please! Thanks.

[David1984]

I booked Rebeka a few weeks ago.

I found her on booksusi.

We agreed on 200/90 min for BBFS, CIM, photo / video.

I invited her to my hotel and she showed up on time.

She manages her appointments herself, she had shown me our Whatsapp chats on her phone. She only speaks a little German, but we were able to talk very well in English. She is in her mid-30's.

We started with a photo session, she is not a top model but was very nice and did everything with pleasure.

I was able to make a video of the whole session.

The sex was good, she goes well with and is also very enduring.

In the end I came in her mouth.

Communication 9/10.

Body 5/10.

Sex 8/10.

WIR.

[Sirioja]

At least, no big upselling at Wellcum and Andiamo. Sad for GT where I really enjoyed on Summer 2020 , except for foods, entry is too expensive for foods low quality.

[Shark16]

Massimo,

Thanks for sharing your insights. Very helpful as always.

Wish the best for Vienna.

- S16.

[Massimo Potente]

If that is a trend, then that is not sustainable. But maybe you visited on a Monday or Tuesday (off days)?

If not, are we seeing the slow death of Goldentime? They are in the lead among FKK clubs with regard to the new business model with higher and higher prices and at the same time a decline in service levels.

8 years ago I made my first visit to GT. 60E/30 with DFK/BBBJ/DATY and CFS included. Not as a standard service, but not that hard to find with a little bit of effort. Can you imagine?

To quote a fellow monger on a similar subject: Steep price growth coupled with a decline in service levels is the worst of all worlds. Goldentime since 2016 should be a case study for MBA students.

Monday and Tuesday in October are not Off Days. At least they didn't use to be. In 2010 on any given Monday you would have twice the amount of clients in GT than what you see now on a Thursday or Friday.

I don't know why anybody is surprised by that. If you have half a grip on what is happening with the prices in most of Vienna's clubs, then you already know that the girls are by now clearly the price-makers and have full authority to do whatever they want.

Every position change and every small service is 50 more. Not just in GT. Also on Booksusi the indipendents do the same and in some studios like Residenz.

There are exactly 2 clubs which do not play that game and refuse to allow the girls to make their own prices and those are Babylon and Maxim. That's it.

And most reputable escort agencies also hold the fort but that is about it.

I estimate that 30% of clubs, Laufhauses and studios have closed in the last 2-3 years and there will be more. They just don't know it yet or still have hope. But there is none because it is an impossible situation these days. As a club you have to justify why your place is worth working there.

Always remember what normal FKK prices are. Half an hour 60 or 70 or 80 if you are generous. A bit more in Switzerland where they earn twice as much.

But in GT it is north of 350 per hour if you want to have fun. That is not what a Saunaclub promised us it would be.

But of course the owner of GT could also say: "You can't have your cake and eat it, too" If you want a big selection of ladies, here you go. That he selected the sharkiest ones he could find in all of the German speaking countries is just part of the deal.

In short: it is not sustainable but we don't know when the collapse will come. We only know that it will inevitably come.

And since I am rambling, let's go one step further and blame ourselves as well. Don't think that this is not as well the customer's fault in a way. In particular the FKK customer who is always comparing FKKs from all over Europe putting the pressure on.

"Is the lineup as good as Sharks, or Oase or Globe or Oceans or Mainhattan or Wellcum or fill in any generic Saunaclub name. I have had better in Dubai, Vegas and Monte Carlo. " WE have forgotten is just one city and not responsible for what is going on in other places.

[Shark16]

I was at GT last week and spent all day there. Its unbelievalbe how empty it was. It was no more than 10 other customers all day until 8 pm when I left, which is very little for this time of the year. e.

If that is a trend, then that is not sustainable. But maybe you visited on a Monday or Tuesday (off days)?

If not, are we seeing the slow death of Goldentime? They are in the lead among FKK clubs with regard to the new business model with higher and higher prices and at the same time a decline in service levels.

8 years ago I made my first visit to GT. 60E/30 with DFK/BBBJ/DATY and CFS included. Not as a standard service, but not that hard to find with a little bit of effort. Can you imagine?

To quote a fellow monger on a similar subject: Steep price growth coupled with a decline in service levels is the worst of all worlds. Goldentime since 2016 should be a case study for MBA students.

[HelloTitty]

I was at GT last week and spent all day there. Its unbelievalbe how empty it was. It was no more than 10 other customers all day until 8 pm when I left, which is very little for this time of the year. As we all know, the girls charge there whatever they like and this haven't changed. Some of them even want up to 200 for half an hour. The girls will always be charging that much if nothing changes because that's the only way for them to make profit. Nevertheless, I had a good experience as I had many girls to choose from because no other customers were there.

[Lucky Nuts]

Hope this is the right place to post a report on Goldentime FKK as I haven't done any reading here to see if there's a special FKK thread.

Traveling around Europe and stopped in Vienna for a couple days for some good eating and see some girls. Visited Goldentime for two nights and sessioned with three girls. First just to mention the cover charge is 95 euros. Doesn't seem to matter when you enter it's always the same. Beer and wine chips cost $5 and you buy them at the front desk. The beer sucks unless you like warm beer with lots of foam. The white wine is Pinot Grigio and quite good. The red is just ok but I don't know what it is. The food was good both nights but no vegetables served except the lettuce salad.

So anyhow I only like girls under 50 kilo or 110 pounds. Well I would see bigger girls for free but if I'm paying I prefer them smaller. I was pleasantly surprised to find a few available while visiting on week nights and not weekends. I sessioned 3 girls in the two nights and I think their names are Vanessa, Sonya, and Serena. I believe all were no more than 50 kilos although Sonya might have been one or two over but still a tight body. The best attitude once the room door closed was Vanessa and I even tipped her for being so nice. Just a very nice girl. Serena was a very close second in attitude and with Sonya the whole experience felt mechanical. She just never chilled and acted like a girlfriend which is what I expect for the money paid.

Sonya offered 100 for basic service or 150 for basic plus kissing. Blow job w / o condom was not an option with her. So I chose basic service 30 minutes 100 euro.

Vanessa offered 100 for basic service or 150 for basic plus blow job no condom. Kissing was not an option she offers at any price. So I chose basic service 30 minutes for 100 euro.

Serena offered 100 for basic service or 150 for both BBBJ and kissing and encouraged DATY. Took the 150 deal. Her attitude and kissing was very good in the room. BBBJ just ok.

In terms of overall looks I'd rate Serena the highest as she has a very pretty face and a perfect body (46 kilos) for my taste. Sonya would be a close second in hotness and Vanessa a not close third.

Bottom line I felt privledged to session all three girls and look forward to my next stopover in Vienna.