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  1. #87
    Quote Originally Posted by Jon32  [View Original Post]
    What are the possibilities of being fined in France? Do cops ever do stings? Or bust in the door of an apartment with girls?
    Risk is very low.

    Just avoid street hookers.

  2. #86
    What are the possibilities of being fined in France? Do cops ever do stings? Or bust in the door of an apartment with girls?

  3. #85
    Quote Originally Posted by HenriDufresne  [View Original Post]
    Hi,

    I am French and I would like to advise you about France. I received a lots of information from this forum and I should share. I had the opportunity to punt in Spain, Belgium, Germany, Netherlands. I never hired an escort in France but I know friends who did it.

    I have never hired any women in France because the service is really low quality. Prices are high. Quality is low. Escort aren't serious. They may not show up. You risks to get a fine.

    There are many cities that are close to countries where there are lots of great brothels and escorts. For example, if you are located in Montpellier, you are only 2 hours away from La Jonquera a Spanish village where you can find brothels with Eastern European and Latin american women.

    Don't waste your time with local women.
    This statement is not far from my opinion.

  4. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiSammy  [View Original Post]
    I'm trying to decide on my next trip, and the current choices are Medellin and La Jonquera. Has anyone visited both? Pros / cons of each, including the economics- price of girls as well as lodgings and food? Spain has an edge right now due to some of the cultural aspects, but Medellin is tried and true and never disappoints. Thoughts?
    Well, Medellin is one of the most innovative cities of the world -- La Jonquera is just a truck stop.

  5. #83

    Medellin or La Jonquera?

    Quote Originally Posted by BigButtDetecto  [View Original Post]
    Totally agree don't waste time and money in France I am french BTW.
    I'm trying to decide on my next trip, and the current choices are Medellin and La Jonquera. Has anyone visited both? Pros / cons of each, including the economics- price of girls as well as lodgings and food? Spain has an edge right now due to some of the cultural aspects, but Medellin is tried and true and never disappoints. Thoughts?

  6. #82
    Fortunately for me, as a French I manage to find Slavian escorts on higher level than failing on so low level la Junquera. Sp and when Milano or Torino where I used to go, are now dead for escorts. When prostitution is not illegal in France, with some WGs in streets.

  7. #81

    France

    Quote Originally Posted by HenriDufresne  [View Original Post]
    Hi,

    I am French and I would like to advise you about France. I received a lots of information from this forum and I should share. I had the opportunity to punt in Spain, Belgium, Germany, Netherlands. I never hired an escort in France but I know friends who did it.

    I have never hired any women in France because the service is really low quality. Prices are high. Quality is low. Escort aren't serious. They may not show up. You risks to get a fine.

    There are many cities that are close to countries where there are lots of great brothels and escorts. For example, if you are located in Montpellier, you are only 2 hours away from La Jonquera a Spanish village where you can find brothels with Eastern European and Latin american women.

    If you are located in Nice you can go to Italy. If you are located in Paris or Lille you can go to Belgium where you can find many brothels. If you are located in Bordeaux or Toulouse you can go to the Spanish border where you will find brothels.

    If you are located in Brittany, you can take the plane at dinard to have fun in the UK. Take advantage of the Ryanair and the flight destinations where there are FKK clubs.

    Don't waste your time with local women.
    Totally agree don't waste time and money in France I am french BTW.

  8. #80
    Quote Originally Posted by Vince1980  [View Original Post]
    Interesting thread. France has a history of considering prostitution as shameful and therefore everyone, from basic people to politicians, tend to try to act as if it did not exist, as if they wanted it not to exist.

    BUT it does exist of course, like in any other country, and people from all backgrounds use these services, from basic people to rich, famous or politicians.

    This subject is highly hypocritical there and I think this is what makes services bad quality as you describe.

    Girls can't work in good conditions, both they and their patients risk problems with the police, it's bad.

    I hope his changes one day, there are countries close to France in Europe that treat sex workers much better, making the service of much better quality.
    As it goes, I was in Barcelona last week and was very happy and impressed by how this profession is considered and respected there. I had a brilliant experience at a high standing agency called sugargirls. Es.

    I also went to apricots. Es which offers a top service too.

    Both offer safe, clean and ethical services which suit both the client and the worker. An example to be followed!

  9. #79

    Hypocritical stand on prostitution in France

    Interesting thread. France has a history of considering prostitution as shameful and therefore everyone, from basic people to politicians, tend to try to act as if it did not exist, as if they wanted it not to exist.

    BUT it does exist of course, like in any other country, and people from all backgrounds use these services, from basic people to rich, famous or politicians.

    This subject is highly hypocritical there and I think this is what makes services bad quality as you describe.

    Girls can't work in good conditions, both they and their patients risk problems with the police, it's bad.

    I hope his changes one day, there are countries close to France in Europe that treat sex workers much better, making the service of much better quality.

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  11. #77
    Just an unsolicited, general opinion on the topic of the prohibitionist law in France. I am a former expat in France who left the country already before the enforcement of the notorious 2016 law (the two things are not related anyway: the). I was back in Paris for a few days after long time; besides the city being the usual sh*thole for mongering, I noticed that nothing has really changed, both for SWs and loft / incall girls.

    So, my guess is that either this law was intended to be a marketing operation to make nazifeminists happy or that police authorities are not serious about prosecuting prostitution (IMHO, the two options are possible, and one doesn't negate the other). The fact that only clients are pursued may also play a role in this apparent indifference for the new rules.

    In any case, I don't think France will ever come back on that, as there was quite an agreement among parties at that time. Albeit in my experience this new deal has apparently no substance, let's only hope that this kind of prohibitionist discourse doesn't take ground also in the neighbouring countries, because occasionally you can hear proposals to "undertake the French path" on prostitution. And this really sucks.

  12. #76
    Cool story bro.

  13. #75

    Advise for people in France.

    Hi,

    I am French and I would like to advise you about France. I received a lots of information from this forum and I should share. I had the opportunity to punt in Spain, Belgium, Germany, Netherlands. I never hired an escort in France but I know friends who did it.

    I have never hired any women in France because the service is really low quality. Prices are high. Quality is low. Escort aren't serious. They may not show up. You risks to get a fine.

    There are many cities that are close to countries where there are lots of great brothels and escorts. For example, if you are located in Montpellier, you are only 2 hours away from La Jonquera a Spanish village where you can find brothels with Eastern European and Latin american women.

    If you are located in Nice you can go to Italy. If you are located in Paris or Lille you can go to Belgium where you can find many brothels. If you are located in Bordeaux or Toulouse you can go to the Spanish border where you will find brothels.

    If you are located in Brittany, you can take the plane at dinard to have fun in the UK. Take advantage of the Ryanair and the flight destinations where there are FKK clubs.

    Don't waste your time with local women.

  14. #74

    Scandinavian model doesn't work.

    Quote Originally Posted by ParamAhmad  [View Original Post]
    Laws like the new anti-prostitution law in France according to which only one of two consenting adults is deemed a criminal for what they both agree to is obvious unequal protection of the laws, and in this case, obvious discrimination against men. When are men going to wake up and start voting as a block against politicians who propose and / or vote for laws that discriminate against men? Examples are laws that criminalize a man who has sexual relations with a prostitute but does not criminalize the woman. Another example is laws that favor women in divorce and child custody, such as child support schedules requiring payment of vastly more than can be justified as the man's fair share of child support.

    The claim that prostitution is violence against women because men are using their superior economic power to force women into prostitution is as nonsensical as saying a man is a victim of violence because he was forced into his career as an executive, salesman, barber, or whatever because he needed to earn a living. Anybody who thinks prostitutes are victims should ask a prostitute. The answers I've heard include these: "I decided to try it for a week and earned more in one week than my father, who is his 40's, earns in 4 months" and "I earn more in one night as a prostitute than I used to earn in one month at my regular job in Romania" and "After working here (as a prostitute), it's hard to go back to a regular paycheck" because a regular paycheck is so much more time for so much less income.
    The reason why these laws are being passed, is because of politics. Of bad, low quality politics. Most people don't care about prostitutes, since most people don't make use of them. So it's an industry few people know about. And they know even less about the prostitutes too. So it's easy to spread this fiction that the majority of prostitutes are forced into it, and are sex slaves. So by passing these laws left wing parties can do something 'progressive', which has the support of the population, but in reality does nothing to prevent prostitution, at best, just reduces it at street level (but increases it on internet advertising).

    In Europe, I would saw about 20 to max 50% are sex slaves. But it's always the same women from the certain geographical areas. Black Africans (by the Nigerian mafia), Romanians (by gypsy pimps), and Chinese (by debt related Chinese mafia). The more expensive the prostitute (commonly known as escorts) , the less likely she is a sex slave. But in Sweden and Norway, police are always targeting clients of these high end prostitutes, because they're easy to find, and to deal with. The police makes numbers (x number of fines), and everyone is happy. While the Nigerian prostitutes are left alone, because they're a-lot harder to deal with. They're violent, and good at hiding from police. So the high end prostitutes leave Scandinavia, with the Nigerian ones remaining- talk about the law of unintended consequences.

    What really needs to be done, is to punish punters to go with women who are sex slaves, even with prison terms. More police needs to be hired, and special squads of police (plain clothes) specialized in sex slavery to check all prostitutes (like in Denmark). Prostitution and brothels, then needs to be legalized with prostitutes being taxed. Also social workers need to be hired to check on them, and persuade them to leave the profession (job training, etc). Any brothel even suspected of mistreating the women, would be immediately closed by the police (like in Spain).

    It won't eliminate prostitution, but it will certainly reduce the abuse. Will such laws be passed in prohibitionist countries (France, Sweden, Norway)? - not a chance. It would be so controversial, and expensive (extra police), that the citizens of these countries would oppose prostitution legalization!

  15. #73

    Qu'importe

    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyHog  [View Original Post]
    Doubt it will make much difference, just means people will be looking over there backs, all those women need to make money somehow.
    What does it matter in reality. Have there been any citations for prosecutions in Paris for any of the customers of the ladies? In the US it is illegal for both parties yet it still goes on.

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