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  1. #2527
    Quote Originally Posted by MilkUsed  [View Original Post]
    Appreciate it. One more item, I noticed that most of the sites don't have any providers above 45 years old. I have spent some time with French Canadian women in Montreal that were of older age and had some very memorable experiences. Are there any agencies or such that cater to this? To each his own!

    Realize from RTFF all way starting in 2008 that the street scene had deteriorated so much that the risk / reward and rushed services are just not worth the hassle.

    I will report back. Be in Paris next week. Might only have time for 2-3 incalls.
    As you are likely aware, the US government and the French government have been working very hard to take away our ability to read and write reviews, by attacking sites that host those reviews. They no doubt exchange the occasional high-five on the subject like Putin and that Saudi Prince did.

    There is one review on the Other Cities section of the local Montreal board of this lady, Ashley. You will need to contact her to see if she is still active, but the existence of ads is a good sign. She lists her age as 28, so add several years to that and factor in that brunette Russian women age fast, and don't be surprised if you have found a lady in her forties.

    https://www.slixa.com/fr/paris/ashleyparis

    https://preferred411.com/P250576

    Here is her review, which is a good review, from that Montreal site. It is someone else's review, not mine.

    "Yet, I followed your advices and chose a companion through a US website for Paris as I needed some company. I selected this profile. Brunette, personal website with quite a lot info and details and a discount proposed to the members of this portal (P411). As usual and described above, many Russians girls are available in Paris with different fees, services and it just seems obvious to me that a large part of the profiles available are truly genuine fake nor too much enhanced to be trusted. I tried to approach some French girls, but I became quite reluctant with their demands and that particular touch of contempt they seem to be familar with. I appreciate making simple, considering that when it comes about relaxing myself, I would prefer avoiding entering in forms like I am applying for whatever annoying job. Ashley is also announcing on some French portals and from I read she has quite a good reputation from reviews even if I stay cautious regarding that sensitive topic.

    I appreciated the look of that brunette, Ashley, her supposed skills in English as my french is worth my Russian, which means close to zero indeed. Nice website by the way, attractive and pleasant with a funny and interesting blog as well. The booking process was fluid and easy through Whatapps and we even chit chat through the phone as I called her and she picked it up. To me fully indep. Answer the phone by herself and did not look stressed, on clock or whatever. Flat located in the central Paris, duplex, comfortable and with all the stuff needed. She proposed me Perrier or fresh mineral water. Clean flat and well ordered.

    I chose a two hours duration, to enjoy the P411 discount and also just because I am more on slow motion coming of age. She welcome me with the black dress sawn on some pics from her website. She match 100% of her pics. No heavy Photoshop, no cheating. Wery smiling and open behavior. Small figure, merly petite. Charming, desirable but not a top model. Quite normal attractive late twenties girl. Her English skills are above the basic ones from this industry.

    The encounter started with a social time made of seduction, teasing and sharing, then we when to something more solid. After a shower, she kissed (DFK) blowed (without condom) and seemed to appreciate my efforts and the energy spent to please with my head between her legs. No over simulation, very tender, GFE style and her petite figure allow flexibility and develop imagination. No hygiene matters, she was well groomed and fresh. Narrow pussy (hmmmm, delicious.). She seems at ease with her job and made me feel at ease as well. I could not resist her second blwojob and ended in a sparkling CIM. We took the time to open a second social time chapter during which she was wheedling or coaxing and then the old man got back to life and we started tenderly a second session. After a common shower)).

    The second chapter was wilder that the previous one, but she could not pretend to the PSE label and would definitely stay in her range, the hot and spicy GFE.

    A few minus. No anal available and more curves would have been just perfect to me indeed. For the rest I could not complain as I spent a nice and refreshing moment out of time with a charming and smiling woman whom made me forgot for a couple of hours the boring routine of mine. I will for sure keep this adress and details in my diary for my next trip to Paris. I would renew. ".

    Beyond Ashley, I just don't know. A web search reveals this mature lady, Mia, who says all the right things in her ads, but we have no reviews.

    http://miaparisescort.com/home-en.html

    http://6ladies.com/escort/paris-escort-mia-2/

    The website Massage Republic is an expensive enough website for ladies to use for advertising that it doesn't seem to get a lot of fake ads. You might look through the ads to see if you find any of interest.

    https://massagerepublic.com/female-escorts-in-paris

    When a government does crackdowns like France has with prostitution, its first and primary targets are usually streetwalkers and agencies. So you may need to seek out an independent and take one for the team if she has no reviews. Independents, particularly the more expensive ones, are almost always left alone by the government.

  2. #2526

    Thank you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mongerer88  [View Original Post]
    AR is anal rimming, presumably on you, since there should be no logical reason for a lady to charge more for you to do that on her. If she does want more to receive, I would run like hell.

    In general I don't like upsells I suspect they are trying to maximize revenue whenever the customer wants something specific.
    Appreciate it. One more item, I noticed that most of the sites don't have any providers above 45 years old. I have spent some time with French Canadian women in Montreal that were of older age and had some very memorable experiences. Are there any agencies or such that cater to this? To each his own!

    Realize from RTFF all way starting in 2008 that the street scene had deteriorated so much that the risk / reward and rushed services are just not worth the hassle.

    I will report back. Be in Paris next week. Might only have time for 2-3 incalls.

  3. #2525
    Quote Originally Posted by Milkused  [View Original Post]
    Hi there,

    I'm new to France mongering.

    Don't speak French.

    I noticed on the sites:

    A+100.

    AR+50.

    GR+50.

    Obvious A is $100 for anal.

    But what is AR and GR?

    Appreciate it!
    AR is anal rimming, and for GR, you mean GS I guess : pipi on you.

  4. #2524
    AR is anal rimming, presumably on you, since there should be no logical reason for a lady to charge more for you to do that on her. If she does want more to receive, I would run like hell.

    GR is usually Golden Rain, commonly called a [CodeWord103] in English. Generally this involves her doing that on you, as relatively few men are aroused by doing that on her. The surcharge for [CodeWord103] for incall makes some sense, since perhaps she has more clean-up, but I don't understand it for outcall, even though I see this same upcharge routinely listed the same for incall and outcall. Perhaps sex is less comfortable for her with a full bladder if the [CodeWord103] happens at the end of the session, even for outcall?

    In general I don't like upsells and I suspect they are trying to maximize revenue whenever the customer wants something specific.

    Quote Originally Posted by Milkused  [View Original Post]
    Hi there,

    I'm new to France mongering.

    Don't speak French.

    I noticed on the sites:

    A+100.

    AR+50.

  5. #2523

    Newbie question.

    Hi there,

    I'm new to France mongering.

    Don't speak French.

    I noticed on the sites:

    A+100.

    AR+50.

    GR+50.

    Obvious A is $100 for anal.

    But what is AR and GR?

    Appreciate it!

  6. #2522
    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreekGeek  [View Original Post]
    There's a provider now on Stroll who has PSE listed under her extra services. I know the definition of PSE is different everywhere, can anyone tell me what it means in France vs. GFE? For instance, is BBFS included?

    Thanks.
    In fact, those terms mean nothing. Just tell your wishes to the manager via whatsapp.

  7. #2521

    PSE on stroll.

    There's a provider now on Stroll who has PSE listed under her extra services. I know the definition of PSE is different everywhere, can anyone tell me what it means in France vs. GFE? For instance, is BBFS included?

    Thanks.

  8. #2520
    I personally had great services from the girls from Stroll. It was more toward GFE.

    And the answers on whatsapp are fast.

    On RGM, I used it once, it was more toward PSE. Also fast answers from them on whatsapp.

    On the other hand, RDV4 U and VIP, I tried to contact them many times other those past few months, I never got an answer from them.

  9. #2519

    Night and day.

    Back from a few days in Paris, where I basically took two for the team (both girls having no review I could find in French or English-speaking usual forums, no reviews or comments, not even fake raving ones, in 6 A). Let's say that I could hardly have 2 more opposite experiences, and never had in such a short time. Both times 250 euros for 1 hour, as is my usual standard procedure and as are the usual Paris prices; both times fast and efficient comms with the respective agencies.

    The initial plan was 3 meetings in 3 days. I already had drawn a short-list from the main agencies, and my first idea was to try one of a few girls that interested me at VIP Aphrodite, Sofia, Tatiana (who at times works in Lodon for Diva, where I might actually end up seeing her one day), and Janna. From the girls I had hotlisted, Janna had been there the longest, so she was my first choice since I really wanted to see her and thought the longer I waited, the more exhausted or ready to depart she would be; she seems to be a kind of Shae Marks (in her Playboy 1990's) lookalike including the big heavy breasts. Alas, I texted the main phone number of the agency and never got a reply. At the moment, I wondered if they were so clueless that they didn't realise that someone texting them from a non-French number could actually be a tourist from a neighbouring European country, and it kind of pissed me off; a few days later and visiting their site as well as other places where they advertise, I think they only use that number for Whatsapp and stupidly have set up another one, that you have to look for on their site, just to handle SMS. Still, with no reply for 45 minutes, I went for girls I planned to meet the day after. So I texted Stroll to meet Ginger:

    https://www.6annonce.com/evaluations/GINGER on Stroll-108823.

    Having read about the gorgeous and Kristina from RDV4 you, apparently really good but who doesn't know English, I was quite apprehensive that the allegedly 19 years old Ginger was actually that young, which would possibly imply she could speak at best basic English, and which would make me a bit ill at ease since I would be banging a girl basically half my age (the only way I could be at ease in such a case would be if she would actually show me that she was at ease with me being that much older than her).

    Was given the address, and when I arrived, was given the code of the place, a quiet building quite close to the centre. I didn't spot any face-check. Once I was in, she went to greet me at the inner door and led me to the flat she stayed in (probably Airbnb). Said flat was OK; kitchen a bit messy, but I won't judge girls on that issue, specially not young girls. And that's the thing: it turned out that, this time, pics weren't years-old and the age wasn't reduced by 5 or more. I wouldn't bet any money that Ginger is actually older than 20. I assume she dyed her hair more ginger-like for the pics, it was more dark-brownish there. Medium height; unmistakable tattoos as in her pics; not slim, but a normal woman shape and size, so no issue at all on this point (10 years from now, though, this might become an issue if she doesn't take care); really nice well-shaped breasts, while the pics stupidly make them look smaller. She's definitely a smoker since there was a pack on the kitchen table, but was unnoticeable other than that (and no smoke odor in the flat either). 2 major issues, the first being that she speaks less English than me Russian; not sure she said anything else than "money" and "shower" in English, and both times preceded by the Russian word (clear sign of a total beginner). So, conversation and any kind of social time were at a critically low level. Second issue being that she's way too young, obviously a beginner at this line of work, which can be quite brutal if one is unprepared, and possibly not made at all for that kind of things; and there she was with someone who, though not in a bad physical shape, was going a bit grey and beginning to lose some hair, while she might still be technically a teen. Both issues made this meeting a long exercise in trying (at least for me) to limit the awkwardness, with low success. After handing money and after shower, she offered a massage; no judgment on my part, since apart from massage specialist, I've never been really convinced by other people's abilities. Then she assumed it was time for blowjob; I signalled her to wait a bit, massaged her a little bit, fondled her, her breasts and kissed a bit her body. It came as no surprise that she wasn't offering FK, and her attitude (and youth) led me to decide not even to try it. No surprise again when she drew a condom for OW, which was OK though. Then she opted for cowgirl, which again was decent, with a few fake groans. No surprise at last that she was quite tight; I've come faster than that, but I didn't last as long as I tend to in my usual punts. Shower once again, an attempt at some chat, extra-limited due to my very limited Russian and her not speaking much apart from her mother-tongue. To her credit, she initiated a 2nd round on her own, with OW and handjob to try to make me hard again; I knew it wasn't going to work, since I clearly saw she didn't enjoy any of it, she wanted to be somewhere else or with someone else, and that I couldn't enjoy the situation in any way, even though she had a nice body (I guess her half-puzzled half-dour look during most of the meeting didn't help either). After a few minutes of staying quite limp, time was nearly up and to the relief of, I assume, both of us, I went for another shower and bade her goodbye.

    Bottom-line is that I tried Stroll at long last, and think they're reliable when they claim pics are recent and real; I'd even believe they give a reasonably truthful age to their girls. On the other hand, I fear that attitude of girls is a big question mark and a bit of Russian roulette. Obviously, I should've walked away after 2 minutes, but I didn't want to be rude, wanted to give her benefit of doubt. Considering Ginger is at most 20, and not a jaded 30 years old Romanian, I don't fault her, but would definitely fault the agency that sends an inexperienced young girl, who doesn't have the faintest idea of what she will have to face, doesn't seem to be made for this trade and only speaks Russian, to Paris, where she will meet (and, I suppose, had already met) customers who aren't as nice and understanding as I was. How the heck could they label her as offering "role-play" when she doesn't speak French or English? Might try Stroll again one day since others had good experiences there, but with a girl who got a good review (and not one on 6 A).

    On second day, I wasn't in the mood at all and instead went to museums, seriously considering putting aside any kind of mongering for the rest of my stay. On 3rd day, this attitude changed a bit and I wanted a last try and go in Paris (I mean, there are 500 ladies in 6 Annonces). So I sent another SMS to VIP Aphrodite, and once again no reply there (see above: seems that the main number on their website just doesn't work with SMS). At this point, I really considered texting Sasha (whom I had met 6 months ago and had already written about), since she was a good provider, speaks English at an acceptable level and was in town at the moment. But before relying on her, I still wanted to try one of the Russian-Girls-for-Me crowd (RDV4 you's Kristina speaking only Russian made it a no-go after my experience with Ginger). I had my views on either Helen or Pauline; the latter was available in the evening, so there I went. From what I could see, Pauline was new to Paris, yet I hoped that she, being a bit older and more experienced, wouldn't be totally new to the job, would at least deliver average services and would speak something else than Russian:

    https://www.6annonce.com/evaluations/Pauline_RG-109057

    That was another risky bet. I've no idea if it was RGM being sloppy or Pauline not knowing how it works on 6 A, but her page there is underwhelming, no description of services, no text about her (though her RGM page provides the information). More annoying, nothing about her location; though it's possibly a blessing, because I would've discarded her, had I known beforehand where she was staying. I quickly booked her and got the address of her hotel and district, I had to double-check, to see if indeed the street was so insignificant that it wasn't on my paper map, and then to see if Google Maps had it right. I guess the hotel is well-situated if you want to visit Pauline by car, but if not, it's a pain and takes time to go there, since it's on the fringe of Paris City proper, stuck against the Peripherique highway on a dead-end street, though thankfully 5 min from a metro station (near the end of the line). The place is actually a mostly Arab and Black neighbourhood, so you can imagine how a Russian woman can feel about it; that said, I went there and back at night and the place isn't dangerous in any way. Still a hassle to go to; I pondered letting it go and do something else instead, but wanted to see her and didn't want to be blacklisted by the agencies for not showing up. I was given the room number when I texted that I was arriving at her hotel. I was a bit apprehensive to go to a hotel since this wasn't exactly legal; luckily, the hotel has scores of rooms and both times when I arrived and went out, there were people checking in, so the reception staff was way too busy to worry about someone else coming in.

    I knocked on the door and she opened, wearing exactly (and only) the outfit on her red underwear and brown stockings pics, and invited me in. Pauline is quite tall, 175 cm definitely, taller than me with her shoes on. Really long and nice brownish hair; as slim as in the pics; a rarely experienced complete absence of tattoo. Slight photoshop, including face, in some pics (who make her face a bit more round, I think). Great blue-green eyes. Age rule applies here, as she's more in the 30-32 range than in the 25 given by RGM, but that didn't bother me. Overall a really sexy look. Breasts less perky and a little bit saggy, due to their original size, her not being 20 anymore, and possibly a bit of weight loss; I'm a breast guy but considering the overall mood and trend of the meeting, it wasn't a big deal. If she's a smoker, it's not noticeable. I've rarely been greeted by girls in underwear, so this was very appreciated, and after a warm welcome by her (in good English and kisses on the neck), I was already considering myself lucky when going to the shower.

    Most of the time, I tend to seek GFE, with FK, blowjob (without if possible, but with isn't a problem), plenty of cuddling, fondling and kissing each other, cunni or 69 and a few good positions for sex (ideally with 2 rounds if we can fill the whole hour or go slightly overtime), which is basically what I got here with a great GFE session. As soon as I was back in the room, she asked if I wanted a massage. I preferred to go with a more mutual endeavour first, so there we were in underwear kissing (soon enough with a lot of tongue kisses), touching, stroking and caressing each other, while taking out underwear; since she was so willing and enthusiastic for all this, which I like a lot, this lasted a long time. Eventually, she plunged for OWO, as if it was indeed perfectly normal to do it without. After a few minutes, foreplay having already been so good and she doing a good OWO without even going for DT, I was on the verge of coming right there; since I didn't want to surprise her with unexpected CIM, I pulled out just a few seconds before I couldn't hold it (odds are that she wouldn't have minded the CIM, but that was cumming a bit too early for my taste). After a few more kisses, she offered to go for sex then, but at long last she saw that I wanted to go with cunni before (and I also needed it to cool down my lower parts before intercourse); she didn't seem to be used to things going in that order and was pleasantly surprised. One can always suspect a bit of acting and fake, but in that case, it was only a bit; she was very reactive and responsive all along and genuinely enjoyed it, squeezing my hands as it went on. Some more FK, and it was time for a lengthy missionary session, half of it in full FK mode; once again, very enthusiastic, as her small cries and nails digging in my back can attest. I came and kept pounding a few more, not wanting to be selfish and stop before she had a really good time. By then, we had already spent 50 minutes in each others' arms, having talked just a bit, and there wouldn't be time enough for another round; but these 50 minutes were so good I was fully satisfied. We lied down naked body against naked body (well, nearly, she never left her stockings) and talked for quite a time about Petersburg, various other places, music, then shower and it was time for me to leave, a good 15 minutes after my time (her sporting now, braless, a red see-through gown).

    All in all a great experience, she's nice, is very welcoming, delivers, is well-educated, seems to like lingerie, and is not a clock-watcher at all. I also suppose that I had the benefit of the current big competition in Paris and her not being at the centre of it, so not having a lot of customers (and possibly even less well-mannered ones). I'd definitely like to see her again, but my usual problem with Paris agencies is that I visit the city twice a year on average, so it might be some time before I see again a girl I like.

  10. #2518
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnG01  [View Original Post]
    I'm doing some preparation for an upcoming trip in which I'll have a couple days of are&are in Paris. I've read a fair bit of the forum so I get the gist. So far, I've seen references to 6 a, rdv4, escortguide tv, lady xena, VIP aphro, and wannonce. If I'm not mistaken, most of them seem to be nearly exclusively Russians except for those on wannonce who mostly appear to be more independent. Is that a good assessment? I see that there are some reviews on 6 a and escortguide but it's almost impossible to find any reference to the independents on wannonce. Have I missed a resource? I'm particularly interested in a younger independent of arabe / and. African origin but finding anyone with a review seems difficult.

    Thanks in advance for the help.
    Hello,

    So yes you are right about theses websites (Russians, east Europe girls for the websites that you quoted, wannonce more independent girls).

    Wannonce is really messy because this website is also for private sale / service and non sexual things. They are a lot of scams on this website.

    Ladyxena is really mixed with independents and agencies. It a good one if you seek Arab or black.

    Have a check on Sexemodel. Com is really nice website because you have a search tool and some filters like on 6 annonce. You can select the language in English. You can choose Arab / Black filter like you wish. I would recommend this over Wannonce.

    From my experience, some arabs girl are working with other girls for their security or sometimes they got a pimp so be careful. You can still find real Arab independent.

    Blacks girl are more reliable. But it is only my point of view.

    On Sexemodel, people can rank or put some short appreciations on the lady. Make sure to check if the commentators / reviewers' historic because some girls create fake account to put good things (lies) about them. VIP at the top left of the picture means they paid the website to be at the top of the search.

    A few can speak English.

  11. #2517
    I'm doing some preparation for an upcoming trip in which I'll have a couple days of are&are in Paris. I've read a fair bit of the forum so I get the gist. So far, I've seen references to 6 a, rdv4, escortguide tv, lady xena, VIP aphro, and wannonce. If I'm not mistaken, most of them seem to be nearly exclusively Russians except for those on wannonce who mostly appear to be more independent. Is that a good assessment? I see that there are some reviews on 6 a and escortguide but it's almost impossible to find any reference to the independents on wannonce. Have I missed a resource? I'm particularly interested in a younger independent of arabe / and. African origin but finding anyone with a review seems difficult.

    Thanks in advance for the help.

  12. #2516
    About a month ago I tried russiangirlsforme. One of the girl was just stunning and she offered amazing services.

    I was wondering if anyone already tried vipparisescortmodels? Some girls seems amazing, and they do have a lot of girls. So I'm wondering if its not strange?

    Thank you.

  13. #2515
    Quote Originally Posted by BaltiX  [View Original Post]
    I wonder how many French politicians see sex wokers on the side.
    Plenty, I am sure.

    Some are even going to sex clubs (swingers clubs, FKK like Germany is forbidden in France), some are going to see trans / shemales (heard from a nice Thai ladyboy who got some politician as customers at a sex party).

    French people don't really consider your intimate life as American politicians.

    You should have a look at LE Mask (swinger clubs more oriented younger people 20-40 years old) Chandelles (another swinger club 40+ years old) or LE Moon (a sex club sauna near Pigalle), you can find sometimes important personalities but don't tell / don't ask, everyone have the right to have a private / kinky life. Law about private life is really strict in France. That's why some Hollywood stars are moving to France to find peace.

  14. #2514
    I wonder how many French politicians see sex wokers on the side.

  15. #2513
    Quote Originally Posted by Questner  [View Original Post]
    Tristo, where can anyone get enrolled in the course without a fine?
    LOL you are talking about the training that you got when you get the fine, its more like a therapy group where everyone who got a fine must confess and explain why he / she is seeing prostitute but in reality everyone remains silent a bit ashamed to what they did.

    And now going to see street walkers is really risky because they are a lot of patrol or police undercovered ready to jump on you when you talk to girl.

    Perhaps Belleville (North East of Paris) is the place to find some streetwalkers since the street in pretty animated with normal people. But all of them are Chinese and over 30 years old (or even more).

    Could be 50 for very short time BJ + a shot in the V (15 min) or you can negotiate.

    Bois de Boulogne are for Shemales or latina girls then Saint Denis is for African / Caucasian girls.

    You can sometimes find East European girls at these places but most of them work in apartment, I would say.

    I said it really with few accuracies because I always prefer incall girl from East Europe agencies or very few french women.

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