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  1. #4855
    Quote Originally Posted by Lanthano  [View Original Post]
    Go ahead and try that if you want and tell us what happened.
    I don't know about other mongers but my modus operandi with escorts will be the same as with any other type of service that is provided. If someone advertises a particular service for a stated price and comes to my door and says that that service is a higher price than what was in their advertisement there is no way that I am paying the higher price. Are there mongers out there who would pay the higher price? I believe principle is very important in any transaction even if that transaction is viewed as morally reprehensible by some. I will certainly be willing to stand whatever consequences that may ensue from my refusal.

  2. #4854
    I'm not advertising them here, but let's say the Germans have this hobby extremely well organised. Their forums are clear and make the escorting less of a risk.

    Some of the escort girls are FKK regular girls who are known by the customer base. It's doubtful that they are there to scam all of a sudden.
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    You ask them on the phone what they offer in advance and get the details worked out. I've written a few of them and they're pretty clear in what they offer.

  3. #4853
    Quote Originally Posted by Lanthano  [View Original Post]
    The German forums talk extensively about this. However, the FKK girls that are working as escorts are usually recognised by the customer base to separate them from potential scammers..
    Which German forums are you referring to?

  4. #4852
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Ok, so the scammer girl advertises BBBJ and sex for E150, CIM for E250 and anal for E300 total. She comes to your room and says she does not do BBBJ, CIM and anal but you will get CBJ and sex for E150, I hope. If she comes to your room and requests a higher price for services then all you need to do is show her the advertisement and the door.
    The point is that they say they do things for which you are tempted to invite them, they come to your place and say sorry I don't do that!

    If this is not scam what is it? Yes of course I would show them the door.

    I think they do this because they work without agency and they don't care that client could call and complain to their boss.

  5. #4851
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Ok, so the scammer girl advertises BBBJ and sex for E150, CIM for E250 and anal for E300 total. She comes to your room and says she does not do BBBJ, CIM and anal but you will get CBJ and sex for E150, I hope. If she comes to your room and requests a higher price for services then all you need to do is show her the advertisement and the door.
    Go ahead and try that if you want and tell us what happened.

  6. #4850
    Quote Originally Posted by Lanthano  [View Original Post]
    The German forums talk extensively about this. However, the FKK girls that are working as escorts are usually recognised by the customer base to separate them from potential scammers............
    Ok, so the scammer girl advertises BBBJ and sex for E150, CIM for E250 and anal for E300 total. She comes to your room and says she does not do BBBJ, CIM and anal but you will get CBJ and sex for E150, I hope. If she comes to your room and requests a higher price for services then all you need to do is show her the advertisement and the door.

  7. #4849
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for this update. Apart from bait and switch what sort of scam stories could there be in Germany?
    The German forums talk extensively about this. However, the FKK girls that are working as escorts are usually recognised by the customer base to separate them from potential scammers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alessandro527  [View Original Post]
    I see a lot of FKK girls working as escorts on ladies. De and even KM girls from sharks, palace and other clubs. They ask for 150 / h when in club they asked for 100/ h for same service? Why I don't get this, they don't even have to pay entry now. Unless the think the title 'escort' makes them more elegant?
    I would say that it could be the additional cost of coming to you, rather than constantly being in the same place as in the FKK club. Also the rent of the hotels that they may be working from.

    I agree with you however that they would probably increase their turnover if they capped it at 100 per hour. I might even be tempted. Some girls have reportedly asked for 100 for 30 minutes, not including transport.

    I am glad I am not desperate enough to give those prices the time of day.

  8. #4848
    Quote Originally Posted by ThePenetrator  [View Original Post]
    Wow is it really that bad?

    The girls now working the streets must be the desperate crack heads. Some of the girls have come over to the UK.

    I fear for Germany, I am meant to visit cologne later in the year, but don't think the FKKs will be open for the rest of the year.

    It seems that Frankfurt gets more traffic than Cologne. From your guys opinion, which city is better for mongering, Frankfurt or Cologne?
    I am skeptical how many have gone to the UK at this point.

    Nor do I. I get the feeling that this year is done, both for travelling, as well as for mongering.

    Frankfurt all the way usually, but I'm biased. Frankfurt has the highest number of FKK clubs in relative proximity. When I didn't travel before, I could at least hang out at any of the 6 or 7 we have around here. Now I can't even do that.

    I disagree that the women out in the RLD are all crackheads. Several them are girls that used to be in the normal RLD houses, and are working there till they reopen. As I said, I recognised several of them and who didn't give any such vibe outside.

  9. #4847
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for this update. Apart from bait and switch what sort of scam stories could there be in Germany?
    I think that Lathano is referring to the kind of services they claim to offer on their page. They use German sex acronyms for their services which in most cases they don't even know what they mean and of course they don't offer them!

  10. #4846
    Quote Originally Posted by Lanthano  [View Original Post]
    .............Escorts are still working, available on ladies.de where they usually offer 1 hour sessions for about 130 to 150 euros, including coming to your place. Plenty of scam stories, plenty of legit service as well. .......
    Thanks for this update. Apart from bait and switch what sort of scam stories could there be in Germany?

  11. #4845
    Quote Originally Posted by Lanthano  [View Original Post]
    So as everyone knows by now, the official venues of Frankfurt's sex industry, in line with the rest of the country, have shut down. The RLD's brothels have all been shuttered or shut. Most of the girls returned home or went elsewhere, those remaining are staying in small numbers in the actual shut brothels for the time being (allowed by the government to stop them from living in the streets).

    This is possibly the RLD's lowest point ever. I decided to take a walk through it nevertheless.

    What does remain is the so-called "Strassenstrich", the assembly of groups of streetwalkers that solicit clients and take them back to a hotel room. The RLD has regressed from what it was before to the semi-clandestine state that one is used to finding in other countries.

    Whereas before, with all that was available in the RLD, it was not advisable, and even dangerous to go with any of the girls approaching you on the street, this is slightly different now, as I recognised and chatted with at least 3 girls that I knew and used to work in the Laufhuser and are pretty trustworthy. Some have just recently arrived back, hoping for some development and reopening by the end of August (not sure how likely that is), others have been there since it closed in the first place back in March. Others are simply new arrivals looking to make a quick buck with low service..
    I see a lot of FKK girls working as escorts on ladies. De and even KM girls from sharks, palace and other clubs. They ask for 150 / h when in club they asked for 100/ h for same service? Why I don't get this, they don't even have to pay entry now. Unless the think the title 'escort' makes them more elegant?

  12. #4844

    Frankfurt or Cologne

    Quote Originally Posted by Lanthano  [View Original Post]
    So as everyone knows by now, the official venues of Frankfurt's sex industry, in line with the rest of the country, have shut down. The RLD's brothels have all been shuttered or shut. Most of the girls returned home or went elsewhere, those remaining are staying in small numbers in the actual shut brothels for the time being (allowed by the government to stop them from living in the streets).

    This is possibly the RLD's lowest point ever. I decided to take a walk through it nevertheless.

    What does remain is the so-called "Strassenstrich", the assembly of groups of streetwalkers that solicit clients and take them back to a hotel room. The RLD has regressed from what it was before to the semi-clandestine state that one is used to finding in other countries.

    Whereas before, with all that was available in the RLD, it was not advisable, and even dangerous to go with any of the girls approaching you on the street, this is slightly different now, as I recognised and chatted with at least 3 girls that I knew and used to work in the Laufhuser and are pretty trustworthy. Some have just recently arrived back, hoping for some development and reopening by the end of August (not sure how likely that is), others have been there since it closed in the first place back in March. Others are simply new arrivals looking to make a quick buck with low service..
    Wow is it really that bad?

    The girls now working the streets must be the desperate crack heads. Some of the girls have come over to the UK.

    I fear for Germany, I am meant to visit cologne later in the year, but don't think the FKKs will be open for the rest of the year.

    It seems that Frankfurt gets more traffic than Cologne. From your guys opinion, which city is better for mongering, Frankfurt or Cologne?

  13. #4843

    RLD on its knees.

    So as everyone knows by now, the official venues of Frankfurt's sex industry, in line with the rest of the country, have shut down. The RLD's brothels have all been shuttered or shut. Most of the girls returned home or went elsewhere, those remaining are staying in small numbers in the actual shut brothels for the time being (allowed by the government to stop them from living in the streets).

    This is possibly the RLD's lowest point ever. I decided to take a walk through it nevertheless.

    What does remain is the so-called "Strassenstrich", the assembly of groups of streetwalkers that solicit clients and take them back to a hotel room. The RLD has regressed from what it was before to the semi-clandestine state that one is used to finding in other countries.

    Whereas before, with all that was available in the RLD, it was not advisable, and even dangerous to go with any of the girls approaching you on the street, this is slightly different now, as I recognised and chatted with at least 3 girls that I knew and used to work in the Laufhuser and are pretty trustworthy. Some have just recently arrived back, hoping for some development and reopening by the end of August (not sure how likely that is), others have been there since it closed in the first place back in March. Others are simply new arrivals looking to make a quick buck with low service.


    Either way, the girls hang out along Kaiserstrasse (one street away from the RLD) from the afternoon onwards and charge between 50 and 70 for half an hour, which includes the 20 euro charge for the hotel room. Personally this isn't my thing, but sex always finds away even during corona times.

    Other notes on Frankfurt:

    Escorts are still working, available on ladies.de where they usually offer 1 hour sessions for about 130 to 150 euros, including coming to your place. Plenty of scam stories, plenty of legit service as well.

    So Frankfurt still has stuff available even now.

  14. #4842
    Quote Originally Posted by Frank11  [View Original Post]
    Well, for USA people that like escorts in Germany and London, a 3rd option to consider is escorts in Montral Qubec. 240 Canadian dollars per hour.

    The local green forum Reviews all the girls so you know exactly what they provide and how they look. Of course, if what you desire is FKK then Germany is a better option. There are more F KK's in Frankfurt than Berlin.

    The escort scene in Montral is amazing. Unfortunately, even though the girls are making awesome amounts, the Montral scene has seen a lot of price increases in the past years. If the prices keep increasing who knows if the scene will still be worthwhile 5 years from now.

    It's probably because of the negative influence from neighboring Toronto or New YorkEconomies. I went to New York and I was in 1 of those expensive neighborhoods andLittle plastic box filled with grapes cost something ridiculous like US$30.And people were telling me either they pay $3000 a month for rent or consider moving to a more rural setting. That is the housing crisis. Not everything that shines is gold.
    Montreal is a very good addition to the discussion. I have asked about Montreal escorts vs London escorts in another thread and I do believe it is about equal both ways.

  15. #4841
    Quote Originally Posted by Wiild  [View Original Post]
    Interesting discussion. Given the current corona / post-corona situation (where the FKKs are not open), do people still think Germany is a great option? When I look around Europe at the moment, the Spanish south coast: Malaga, Marbella with night club scene and low covid rates has popped up as perhaps the best option when FKKs are closed? Switzerland and Austria are competitors for FKK fans perhaps?

    Oh, there is a subforum dedicated to comparing different countries and cities:

    http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...961&viewfull=1#post2446961.
    I have been on the Costa Del Sol for 3 weeks. All the clubs are open, albeit with some restrictions and a requirement of wearing face masks before going to the room. C19 rates in northern spain have increased but not on the costa del sol. No deaths for two weeks and low case numbers. I cannot compare with Switzerland but the mongering options in Spain are plentiful. Though there is the risk of quarantine when you return.

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