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  1. #6008

    Szajer corona sex party

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55145989

    Did Mr Szajer got tired of all the gypsie girls at rosszlanyok, flew to Brussels to find the elite-providers provided by one of the Belgium.

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  2. #6007
    Quote Originally Posted by ExpatLover  [View Original Post]
    Are you aware how long the virus can survive on hair, skin, clothes, door handles. Several hours to several days and still being able to infect you. For those who are still willing to visit prostitutes it is more or less impossible to fully protect yourself or the nurse or doctors will not put so many protective equipment's and even with that they can get sick.
    I generally agree with you. As I already mentioned here, my last paid date was end of September when "I suspended my relevant activities, and probably for a longer period (partly due to my Covd concerns, but I have other personal reasons as well)". Since then, pandemic situation has turned much worse in Hungary, so now those concerns would be enough alone for me to quit.

    However, I can also understand the motives of those who opt differently. During the first spring wave I didn't have sex at all (at least not with another person, as the joke goes) and it was not easy, even though I'm pretty good at tolerating temporary celibacy. (It is interesting, though, that after that void period my reviving sexual life delivered some remarkably great moments, and I really wonder if and how the long Lent before had an influence on that pleasing phenomenon).

    And another factor is, I believe, the attitude of (many) girls. When you see that a lot of girls hold on, even among those whom you definitely know to do sexwork voluntarily, and some of them even not under serious financial constraint, and you also calculate that your risk is still much lower than theirs (meeting only one or two girls, while they meet a lot of guys), this could give you a feeling (perhaps falsely, but still) that it's not such a big thing. BTW I must admit that if I had had to make a guess in September about who would suspend their activities and who'd hold on as the going gets tougher (from among the girls I follow), I would have made a couple of misses.

    And finally another interesting point: I read it in a blog recently how girls were complaining about their older clients to have disappeared in particular, which is of course not a surprise if we consider that they are the most in danger regarding Covid.

  3. #6006
    Are you aware how long the virus can survive on hair, skin, clothes, door handles. Several hours to several days and still being able to infect you. For those who are still willing to visit prostitutes it is more or less impossible to fully protect yourself or the nurse or doctors will not put so many protective equipment's and even with that they can get sick.

  4. #6005

    Specific update

    So life in Hungary has changed substantially since November 11th with a partial lockdown and even rather strict curfew measures for the evening and night hours. However, the impact on sex market is not so obvious, at least not for the time being. And I also point out that while indeed, a relatively strict regime has been introduced, but the new measures do not influence too much how foreigners can come to or stay in Hungary (which already had not been easy before either), they are all about regulating life within the country (and indeed they mean a big change in many ways, but actually do not make mongering impossible) So tourism is indeed blocked, but those who could come to Hungary two weeks ago (E. G. For business or educational reasons) can still come and stay in hotels for example, and can still date sexworkers if they wish, only allowing for the curfew from 8 pm. In order to avoid any misunderstanding: not too many foreigners would do so, but exactly from this aspect the recent measures have not brought big changes. Today, just like two weeks or two months ago, the relevant regulation is the following: "If a non-Hungarian citizen wishes to enter Hungary for business, economic or educational purposes and proves this fact upon entry, he or she may enter Hungary without restriction. " And about hotels: "Hotels shall not receive tourists, only guests arriving for business, economic or educational purposes. " Finally, in order to "prove upon entry" your business purposes, you must complete and present upon arrival to Hungary the document available at the following link: http://www.police.hu/sites/default/f...travellers.pdf.

    Coming back to the sex market specifically, the biggest shift on the market since my last post was to be observed already before the new pandemic regime. Not in the number of girls with active ads, which is still surprisingly high (of course that may change any time and needs close monitoring), nor in widespread and strict health restrictions in the services (such as "no kissing" in general, as it had been the case in the spring pandemic wave), and based on the fresh reviews appearing on major sites there are actual interactions as well, and at least some regular mongers hold on (although in some cases it's suspicious that not all reviews are real or actual). The sign that does show a certain shift in the market, however, is an unusual phenomenon starting to raise its head: girls calling mongers (whose phone numbers or other availabilities they know) asking if they would consider a visit, and sometimes offering rebates or other benefits, like a more exclusive treatment (extra GFE) and / or extra time for the same money. This "reverse calling" is very unusual in the domestic incall and outcall market in Budapest, and yet it's happening nowadays in more than one cases (while some of the most popular girls seem to have enough clients even now, and do not apply such methods).

    So it seems like the offer side is holding on in general, but less mongers take the chance to visit girls. From the health aspect only, this could seem surprising if we consider that girls are more in danger meeting a lot of guys than mongers meeting just one or two girls. But it probably goes down to the asymmetry of girls doing sex work for a living, while for most mongers it's something they can give up for a certain time. And of course budget considerations due to the pandemic may also play a part and hold back mongers from the market. (To go further into nuances: the individual situations of girls may vary a lot as well. Some may decide to work only the minimal to meet their basic needs, and do with much less clients than normally. And in this case their ads remain active, and they do not apply rebates or start calling clients, yet their service may turn more exclusive simply because they receive only one guy a day. That actually happened to me as well already in the July-September period when I used to be active in meeting girls). That's it for know, and let us see how things will develop further.

  5. #6004

    General Covid update Hungary

    Big changes in Hungary in the pandemic front (in multiple sense), and also some shifts on the Budapest sex market (although still not as marked as you might presume).

    To start with a paraphrase to my previous post, Covid situation in Hungary has turned from worse to even worse since then, and after long weeks of baffling negligence by the government, finally substantial measures were introduced against the raging pandemic on November 11th (at long last, yet in many senses too late). Still not among the strictest in Europe, but compared to the almost zero before, it's a big change anyway.

    Public opinion has also altered significantly, which is actually one of the motives for the measures (in addition to the situation starting to threaten with the collapse of the whole medical system). This especially goes for the countryside, because in the first wave the pandemic was concentrated on Budapest (with about half of the infected people and also the deaths nationwide), while now it's "only" about 20%, so more or less what is proportional to the number of inhabitants. BTW this is an outlier now in Europe, as big cities are typically more affected everywhere (and it's a bit similar to the US, where some states with lower population density produce the worst pandemic numbers proportionally, and also the reasons behind are similar). The relatively good (or it's better to say: not so horrible) numbers in Budapest are probably due to the strong first wave in the city, which made people and also local authorities more cautions and aware. That is also the main reason why the general feeling is relatively calm in Budapest despite the actually (and in an absolute sense) high pandemic numbers.

    Just the opposite is the dynamics in the countryside, where many people used to fall for the suggestions by certain media and propaganda outlets that this was mainly a problem for the "urban people" (some of them even gloating over it), and a lot of family and other events, like weddings or local fairs, were held without restrictions and without due caution, where hundreds or even more people participated. But now they feel the pandemic in their own circles and families as well, while also many people who yelled "it's not our problem" earlier are infected or even dead, along with more and more celebrities and even popular young athletes, and all in all that's led to a tangible shift in public opinion and attitudes towards the Covid situation nationwide. Even though what's happening now is only what experts (and actually anyone who has common sense) have been predicting for about two months now, and earlier and gradual measures could have made the crisis path way smoother. In any case, now it seems like the former prediction of almost all serious experts is looming: If you only take the arguments of the economy into account, you'll end up with a lot of unnecessary deaths AND the economy suffering big time.

    And I shortly mention 3 further important issues: 1) The official data are bad enough, but the growing inconsistencies in certain numbers make a lot of people think they are still better than reality (through data massaging), especially the daily death toll, which is probably at least the double of the official numbers now. 2) There are also growing inconsistencies in the government's actions and communication, which, in a paradox way, mostly affect their most loyal supporters, typically in rural areas, who only rely on government information sources (including media run by the state or the ruling party), because they had to face the surprise for example when on Monday everything had been still fine in terms of the pandemic in Hungary ("unlike the declining West, we don't need lockdown or other restrictions") and on the next day strict measures were introduced including lockdown and curfew regulations, and 3) Plans of the government with the Russian vaccine to import and use it without being reviewed and licensed by EMA (European Medicines Agency), an idea not very popular among people right now, to say the least (polls indicate that only about 7% would accept it voluntarily).

  6. #6003
    Quote Originally Posted by Barawasha123  [View Original Post]
    I remember reading that during the last lockdown there were some girls offering heavily discounted prices, nice girls.

    Is such a thing happening now with this second lockdown?
    Some girls do that, some do not. However, it is irrelevant for foreignersi / tourists as they cannot enter the country.
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  7. #6002

    Offers due to COVID

    I remember reading that during the last lockdown there were some girls offering heavily discounted prices, nice girls.

    Is such a thing happening now with this second lockdown?

  8. #6001

    There are much cheaper / better choices

    Quote Originally Posted by AttilaAndor  [View Original Post]
    I would really suggest you setting up a meet with Shona River, she's hands-down the best you can get out of a pornstar experience.

    You can contact her on directly on her email or just check her official Twitter for other contact info.
    Shona is good, but rather expensive especially for longer meetings that include full GFE experience. That means girls will go out with you in the restaurants, clubs & than go back to your apartment for fucking. For example Shona is charging 6500 euro for 3 days for something like that. There are younger, equally or even more beaitiful girls who are charging 1500-1700 euro for 2 days or 2500-2700 euro fo 3 days. I am talking about hours of total dedication to you, spending the time with you, entertaining you, making you feel pleasant, basically being your girlfriend for 2 or 3 days.
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  9. #6000

    Forget Budapest for now

    You foreigners can forget about entering Hungary / Budapest for now. Very strict measures have been introduced.

    https://koronavirus.gov.hu/cikkek/op...i-intezkedesek

    http://abouthungary.hu/news-in-brief...-restrictions/

    Belgrade is the only city where you can enter freely without any resrtrictions at the moment. It is also very near to Budapest. Therefore, porn stars & elite girls are frequently coming to Belgrade at the moment.
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  10. #5999

    Fuck Covid-19 is what most of the Hungarians say

    I did say in my previous post that I am in Belgrade at the moment, because that is where foreign toutrists can enter withoit any restrictions & where all the elite action is. However, I am communicating with my friends in Budapest almost on the daily basis or at least 3 times per week. That depends on how busy I am with the clients in Belgrade. Yes, fuck the Covid-19 is what most of the Hungarians say. They want to lead normal life. Those who are affected financially due to this thing are super pissed & they especially do not give a fuck about it. I talk to my friends from Budapest, thay are all ok, all the preople they know are ok, their neighbours are ok. So, I am not surprsied at all by the attitude of most of the Hungarians about this thing. My attitude is no different. I refuse to be fooled. I am a free man & I want to live my life the way I want. As for the mongering scene for ordinary girls, it is business as usual. Most or almost all girls are working, plenty of local guys are visiting / fucking them. Elite girls & porn stars do some work in Budapest, but they are mostly looking for work abroad. Lots of them are frequently visiting Belgrade at the moment.
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  11. #5998

    Budapest update

    Covid situation in Hungary has turned from bad to worse since my last post, which is not unique in Europe these days. What is in strong contrast to other European countries, though, is that Hungary has not introduced any serious measures beyond a basic regulation about wearing masks in certain places and situations. But there is no regulation that would stop even mass events like a football match with 20 thousand fans in a full house stadium, so you can imagine how even those mild measures can be observed. Therefore the death toll of the virus is among the worst in Europe now, and certainly more casualties are to come.

    However, a significant number of Hungarians seem to ignore these developments, at least for the time being, and one of the consequences is that the domestic part of sex market in Budapest is performing surprisingly strong. Personally I'm no longer part of the story, as I suspended my relevant activities about a month ago, and probably for a longer period (partly due to my Cocid concerns, but I have other personal reasons as well), but I'm still keeping an eye on the developments, so I'll try to keep you informed here from time to time.

    Turning to the specifics: another surprise fact is that the number of girls with active ads seems to be about the same now as it was two months ago (when Covid was virtually on holiday), and they typically do not apply special measures either, unlike in spring. I did exploit the July to September market myself, as the rates and other conditions were slightly better then before (like more time and / or more exclusivity for the same money, but sometimes even lower rates), and in two cases also because the girl got stranded in Hungary instead of going (back) abroad, but I'm really surprised that so many girls have remained active. And it's not only the number of active ads, but many providers receive reviews as well in numbers, just like a year ago. I admit that this is a surprise for me, first that people (both girls and clients) are not more concerned about the raging pandemic, and also that domestic demand is persistently so strong that it can keep the market up at this level. As I've just checked the ads, all but one of the girls whom I met in this summer, as well as some of my best experiences in the previous 2-3 years, are active at present, so should anyone manage to come to Hungary these days, he could choose from a number of high level providers from among the best of the incall segment, who offer great performances in the price range of 50-70 euro per hour. The flip side of the coin is, though, that extremely few people can actually come to Budapest these days from abroad, which is also reflected in the frozen state of the escort market. That's it for know, and I hope to come back with new developments in a few weeks (or as it seems sensible).

  12. #5997

    Borders are still closed

    Hungary will remain closed for tourism, until at least November 1. I will be pleasantly surprised if anything changes after that date. Hence, Budapest remains for the locals only. Therefore I am spending most of my time in Belgrade, everone can enter Serbia without any restrictons. My interests are currently there. Lots of people form all over the world who are craving for traveling are visiting Belgrade. Even old folks, for tourist reasons & they love it. I have personally met a nice couple in their 70's. I have met 2 yong guys from America who moved to Serbia too. Therefore, Belgrade is a place to be at the moment.
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  13. #5996
    Quote Originally Posted by Hilvar  [View Original Post]
    However, if you are an absolute beginner in Budapest and arrive here only for a couple of days, you should have difficulties in finding the right offers among the great number of (at first sight) similarly looking ads and other information sources. So as a first step I definitely suggest that you read this introduction to Budapest mongering: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...ng-in-Budapest As a second step, you should also look up the positive reviews (recommendations) in this thread about concrete girls from the past 2-3 years, and save the ones whom you like and who have an active ad at the same time. And a third step could be that as soon as your visit to Budapest is getting close, you come up here a few weeks earlier and ask about actual tips and recommendations (I'm afraid though that this won't happen very soon, if you would like to come as a tourist, due to the current pandemic situation).
    We often recommend to members who are newbies in Budapest to exploit the collective wisdom piled up in the thread, and read back. But how far back, you can ask and rightfully so. The whole thread is obviously too much, while if you only read a couple of recent pages, it may not give you what you need. The blog that I linked in my previous post is an option that I keep on recommending, but its scope is limited as well. Now I've tried a few test drills in the thread and I suggest that newbies who have a little more time could start reading back from about this page (and then proceed towards the present): http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...udapest/page62.

    Of course any such starting point may be questioned, but I consider it a good compromise between too much and too little, while hopefully a significant part of the factual information in the posts you can read starting from there (like the use of the major advertising pages for example) is still valid as well. And I have one more supporting argument to start exactly from there: you'll be able to read a high number of different views and opinions already in the first few pages proceeding from there, because it was an intense and busy period in the thread. I do not want to influence you at all about the reliability of certain members, nor put my own posts in the foreground. Just read each and every post, the information and arguments therein, and make use of them upon your own judgement.

  14. #5995
    Quote Originally Posted by CenTexCrash  [View Original Post]
    It's the dumbfounded American cultured Mandela effect, I simply find a key name I can't spell / pronounce by memory, and am not in a mood to open a second ISG browser tab to copy/paste, so I simply add a -ski or -sky at the end and instantly it's a Hungarian / Polish / East European word. (smiley).
    At least your loss was only 45 $ and nothing else. There are far worse traps in Budapest to fall in, which may end up in losing much more money, and perhaps even more than just money.

    However, "talking down" a girl's rate is not something I would recommend to a foreign monger in Budapest in general, Although I have read a few reports on forums about the "Look, I have x HUF for this stuff now, deal or no deal?" method working, but even they suggest that you should "feel it during the talk". In my view, bargaining should be avoided in general, and especially not in this measure. It's not easy to imagine a girl who initially said 70 and yet would provide a good service for 45. She may accept it, but it will hit back in the level of service.

    On the other hand, there are many great incall providers in the price range of 50-60 euro (in some cases the range may go down to 40 and up to 70), and 3 of my last 4 great experiences applied such rates, between 18 and 22 k HUF (which equals to 50-60 euro). It is also important to notice that within that range girls should be evaluated individually, because a 50 euro girl can be better or worse than a 70 euro girl, the rate itself won't tell that. But referring back to our initial topic: I'm always talking about the price the girls is asking originally, without bargaining.

  15. #5994

    Irrelevant

    Quote Originally Posted by CenTexCrash  [View Original Post]
    It's the dumbfounded American cultured Mandela effect, I simply find a key name I can't spell / pronounce by memory, and am not in a mood to open a second ISG browser tab to copy/paste, so I simply add a -ski or -sky at the end and instantly it's a Hungarian / Polish / East European word. (smiley).
    It is absolutely irrelevant how will you pronounce rosszlanyok if you do not speak Hungarian language. Even if you learn to pronounce it perfectly it will not help you when you call a girl who speaks Hungarian only. Everyone here knew that you were talking about rosszlanyok although you spelled it Rozylansky. The key thing / most important thing was that you got scammed by one of those ordinary girls from that site. Some members here write posts just for the sake of writing them. When it comes to success in mongering in Budapest experience is irreplaceable & the only way to acquire it is a hard work for many years.
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