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  1. #7084

    Dead Profiles

    Quote Originally Posted by Rugga  [View Original Post]
    Plan was to visit salons choose from a line up. In these days texted about 20 Salons and Indy's (in Russian) but mostly got no reply. Started to wonder why so many ads on rusdosug etc if the women aren't responding.
    I also ask myself why to bother in setting up an ad in such site, if you don't pick the phone and don't reply to sms. Either 1-she has found a sugar dad / boyfriend who is consuming all of her time, or 2- she changed the profession and left the ad there. Well, the 3rd possibility would be something liker she got caught by undercover cop playing the client and they confiscated her phone (where she used to answer calls / messages), but I guess it's rather one of the first 2 options. Nothing against you dorogaya, be happy, but maybe you could delete your ad and phone number from the directory. The mongers thank you.

  2. #7083

    Fake pros

    Quote Originally Posted by CallSignRomeo  [View Original Post]
    Yes all this is true. I would like to add that the Russian men only treat women like princess till the women reach 30. In Russia women is considered old after 30 and the local men just upgrade and get new 'devoshka', also after this age the ladies enter the international dating / scam market wherein some are looking for long term but most are looking to extract revenge for previous failed relationships. My friend lost thousands of dollars to multiple ladies on sites such as pay per letter scam sites, fake meetings based in high end restaurants, money for visa & passport for a meeting that never materializes, green-card girls and so on. Rich Russian guys have single wife but couple of mistresses, few escorts and few sugar babies on rotation in month and this is the model they have suggested me to go forward with if you are in Russia for prolong periods of time.
    I want to second you. After 30 years old, former pros join tinder, mamba, a camgirl website or a dating agency. They claim they worked as a makeup artist and travelled the world. They claimed they studied finance, management, medicine. The profile of these Russian scammers is always the same. The goal is to find a nice blue pilled simp who will accept to financially support her. I have also noticed that Rich Russian guys had several mistresses. However, I have never noticed that they behaved like sugar daddies. Those girls are only pros. They accept sex in exchange for money. Once you get out of this scheme, you take the risk of being scams because in Eastern Europe, there are also many fake escorts. These women behave like escorts, they get dressed like escorts but they never have sex. They just want the man to pay. Thus, you must be very straight forward with Russian woman. If you get into chit chat and sentimental relationship you take the risk of being scammed.

  3. #7082
    Just FYI. It's either "devushka" (young woman) or "devochka" (literally small girl, but used colloquially for young female lovers, or as affectionate).

  4. #7081
    Quote Originally Posted by Jarjarmissa  [View Original Post]
    Cannot reply on his behalf but according to my experience Mamba apps is the right one. It is the one I use in Russia instead of Tinder or else.

    The recommendations I can make are:

    - Spend time to get to know who writes. There a mix between agencies, independent escort, serious women (looking for husband) and easygoing girls (with support).

    The border between escort and girl with support is tiny but clearly exists on Mamba.

    - Escort: not a big deal, from 8 K rbls per hour to 50 K, it is a market place where you find what you want.

    - Easy-going girl with support: AMOF Russian women like being treated like Princess. They like beautiful places, champagne, good dinner, flowers. If you give this, you will get hot sex in return. But sometimes it is borderline as the same easy going girl will ask 15 K rbl for a dinner with you. She is not an escort but she likes to meet with sugar daddy who will invite AND give her money to buy things. Do not treat her as an escort, or be ready to forget the after dinner part..
    Yes all this is true. I would like to add that the Russian men only treat women like princess till the women reach 30. In Russia women is considered old after 30 and the local men just upgrade and get new 'devoshka', also after this age the ladies enter the international dating / scam market wherein some are looking for long term but most are looking to extract revenge for previous failed relationships. My friend lost thousands of dollars to multiple ladies on sites such as pay per letter scam sites, fake meetings based in high end restaurants, money for visa & passport for a meeting that never materializes, green-card girls and so on. Rich Russian guys have single wife but couple of mistresses, few escorts and few sugar babies on rotation in month and this is the model they have suggested me to go forward with if you are in Russia for prolong periods of time.

  5. #7080
    Quote Originally Posted by HenriDufresne  [View Original Post]
    Example: a restaurant in Moscow with prostitutes:

    https://www.tripadvisor.ru/ShowUserR...al_Russia.html.
    Russian reviews are hilarious, thanks I had a good laugh.

  6. #7079

    Yes tinder and mamba are scams

    Quote Originally Posted by Rugga  [View Original Post]
    Yes mamba and tinder are trash. All dating apps are a waste of time. Mamba is the worst. I wasted a lot of time swiping and only got hard core gold diggers and scammers. The MILF I had met on my previous trip to Kiev at some local bar she was ok to meet in Moscow.
    I the like to second Rugga. I extensively used mamba and tinder and came to the same conclusion. The worst gold diggers are on tinder and mamba. (Same in Ukraine). These two apps attract all the scammers as well. This means that some women look like pros according to their photos but it does not mean they actually fuck. They want your money and they don't want to do anything in return. Tinder has been marketed by some US media as a casual sex app. This is BS. This is just a manipulation. You don't know who hides behind these girls. I think that the women of tinder and Mamba are even worse than the gold diggers you find in night clubs of Moscow. In general, all the predators are online. This means, asexual women who want to make money out of men but will never have sex. Lesbian women also who pretend to have sex with you and total psychotic women as well. They all have something in common. They are all sexually deceptive. They make you believe that you are going to have sex and in the end, you get nothing. Also, don't believe you are going to meet a semi pro on these apps. Today, I think that the best Russian women never join Tinder and Mamba. That's it.

    Don't be lured by photos on Tinder and Mamba. You are going to waste your time and money. Forget it.

    Guys don't waste your time with these apps. Visit websites where you can find pros in Russian, agencies, and places where you can find prostitutes (nightclubs, bars, restaurants):

    Example: a restaurant in Moscow with prostitutes:

    https://www.tripadvisor.ru/ShowUserR...al_Russia.html

    For your information, I met women who were on mamba in the local population. I understood that you find on tinder and mamba all the women that nobody wants to fuck. It is plain and simple. By the way, I think the problem is worldwide with Tinder. I think this app is incredibly overrated and I think it is a scam.

  7. #7078
    Quote Originally Posted by Rugga  [View Original Post]
    Yes mamba and tinder are trash. All dating apps are a waste of time. Mamba is the worst. I wasted a lot of time swiping and only got hard core gold diggers and scammers. The MILF I had met on my previous trip to Kiev at some local bar she was ok to meet in Moscow.
    LOL, some things never change. You got really lucky with her, too bad she reacted like this.

  8. #7077
    Quote Originally Posted by AluHut  [View Original Post]
    That is very interesting, how did you found her?
    Yes mamba and tinder are trash. All dating apps are a waste of time. Mamba is the worst. I wasted a lot of time swiping and only got hard core gold diggers and scammers. The MILF I had met on my previous trip to Kiev at some local bar she was ok to meet in Moscow.

  9. #7076
    Quote Originally Posted by Jarjarmissa  [View Original Post]
    Cannot reply on his behalf but according to my experience Mamba apps is the right one. It is the one I use in Russia instead of Tinder or else.
    I haven't used it in ages, but I remember it was quite a trash place where you had to spend hours, or even days to find someone real. Is it still the case? Also, do you communicate in English? I speak quite decent Russian, but my gut feeling tells me I will get better results but not trying to pretend as local.

  10. #7075
    Quote Originally Posted by AluHut  [View Original Post]
    That is very interesting, how did you found her?
    Cannot reply on his behalf but according to my experience Mamba apps is the right one. It is the one I use in Russia instead of Tinder or else.

    The recommendations I can make are:

    - Spend time to get to know who writes. There a mix between agencies, independent escort, serious women (looking for husband) and easygoing girls (with support).

    The border between escort and girl with support is tiny but clearly exists on Mamba.

    - Escort: not a big deal, from 8 K rbls per hour to 50 K, it is a market place where you find what you want.

    - Easy-going girl with support: AMOF Russian women like being treated like Princess. They like beautiful places, champagne, good dinner, flowers. If you give this, you will get hot sex in return. But sometimes it is borderline as the same easy going girl will ask 15 K rbl for a dinner with you. She is not an escort but she likes to meet with sugar daddy who will invite AND give her money to buy things. Do not treat her as an escort, or be ready to forget the after dinner part.

    If others have other opinion, interesting to cross.

  11. #7074
    Quote Originally Posted by Rugga  [View Original Post]
    Thankfully had made contact with a classy MILF age in her 30's prior to my arrival. Non-pro woman with a normal job. She picked me up at the airport, showed me around the city, stayed with me about 3 nights so got enough bedroom action with her. BBBJ, anal, CIM the lot all freebie (well, I paid for all her meals and drinks). Even went to her house outside Moscow and fucked her ass off whilst her teen daughter was upstairs and could probably hear mummy being fucked senseless. That was satisfying. It was only when she was at work I tried to p4 p for variety but no luck.
    That is very interesting, how did you found her?

  12. #7073

    Late Moscow report

    Was in Moscow for 5 days back in October 21. Stayed in 5-star hotel on Tverskaya. Plan was to visit salons choose from a line up. In these days texted about 20 Salons and Indy's (in Russian) but mostly got no reply. Started to wonder why so many ads on rusdosug etc if the women aren't responding. If there was a reply they send pics of girls who look nothing like the ads and not worth it for the prices quoted which are around 8000/ hour straight sex. Extras cost more. Did go to one apartment near Arbat, on the phone she lied and said 5 young girls available. But when I turned up just one skinny Stan girl only skin and bones looking unhealthy so didn't do any business.

    Moscow didn't live up to p4 p expectations. Thankfully had made contact with a classy MILF age in her 30's prior to my arrival. Non-pro woman with a normal job. She picked me up at the airport, showed me around the city, stayed with me about 3 nights so got enough bedroom action with her. BBBJ, anal, CIM the lot all freebie (well, I paid for all her meals and drinks). Even went to her house outside Moscow and fucked her ass off whilst her teen daughter was upstairs and could probably hear mummy being fucked senseless. That was satisfying. It was only when she was at work I tried to p4 p for variety but no luck.

    Left Moscow for SP by myself. A bit better for p4 p but not much (see my SP report).

    Returned to Moscow to fly back. But had a date with a girl 20 years younger which went well. Cancelled flight stayed a few more days with new girl. 8 hours non-stop sex first night with whisky and room service. Loads more sex next two nights. BBBJ, CIM, uncovered anal. Free. Yes I took her to top restaurants and bars. Satisfying to get this from a local non-pro in her mid 20's.

    MILF worked out I was seeing someone else and went crazy on the phone. Do I give a fuck? No! As if these women donít use men every day for free meals and social life going around having dozens of dates. Refused to meet the MILF in case she goes ballistic in public. Well, what can you do but manage the situation!

    So p4 p didn't work for me in Moscow but was lucky to get two locals for free. Nice city but too cold for me this time of year.

  13. #7072
    Quote Originally Posted by SanGaetano  [View Original Post]
    But if somebody know a good salon, where their only (or at least main) product is the good old sex, please post here, I will got there with pleasure.
    You will need good Russian skills to navigate to such salons as they have discreet entrances and it can get challenging to access these doors / gates without proper communication skills. You can take the help of taxi driver to get there though who are mostly central Asians.

  14. #7071
    Quote Originally Posted by ILuvThePussy  [View Original Post]
    So, 2000 entry + 14000 are for the girl + 6000 for the room = 22000 Rubles or around $300 minimum for a session. Not including tips for the dances and drinks. How long were these sessions? A flat hour or a few hours with a couple pops?
    Flat hour. The management calls the room after 1 hour and asks that the girl and you clear out. Though on all occasions, the girls were not in a hurry and utilized the full hour.

  15. #7070
    Quote Originally Posted by CuttySark  [View Original Post]

    Sex if you want is 14000 R for the girl and 6000 for the room, I believe it has gone up from previous rates. The waitresses are topless and can also be taken to the room. The hostesses wear gowns, ditto for them. If you want to take a girl out of the club you pay some ridiculous amount like 15000 or 30000 R. All places have a hotel adjacent or on the upper floors, rooms are OK enough though I found Aurora to be a little older and seedier than the others and Hunters to be the nicest. On all three occasions I found the girls to be very, very well trained, they all had absolutely great attitude and seemed to be clearly instructed to achieve a very high satisfaction level both in the sex as well as in the pre and post talk. On two occasions the girls did not want to any kissing, third one lots. On two occasions the girls without insistence did some crazy ball licking, third occasion not. Overall service was super, with many similarities that showed good training of the girls but still some variations.
    So, 2000 entry + 14000 are for the girl + 6000 for the room = 22000 Rubles or around $300 minimum for a session. Not including tips for the dances and drinks. How long were these sessions? A flat hour or a few hours with a couple pops?

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