Saint Petersburg

[Penetrador]

BTW today I have a question to my fellow mongers:

Have anyone here tried the big salon at Tallinskoye shosse 172?

I heard it's a lot of girls there and their prices are quite competitive. But that was not first hand info, so I am a bit skeptic.

Sounds good I will try to go when I come this Winter.

[SanGaetano]

BTW today I have a question to my fellow mongers:

Have anyone here tried the big salon at Tallinskoye shosse 172?

I heard it's a lot of girls there and their prices are quite competitive. But that was not first hand info, so I am a bit skeptic.

[SanGaetano]

BTW my same Russian friend who just came back from Piter, put together some numbers and these are some of the salons he visited:

-Salon / Chain. -From bad to good.

-Yavamdam Ellis Pride / Love butterfly Frau M Top Indis (not salom).

Respective prices for a 'classic service' of 1 hours (na chasik).

-2500 (quickie, 30 min.) to 5 k (1 hour) 4 k to 6 k 4500 Rub to 6 k 8 k to 12 k (depending of the girl category you choose). BBBJ is usually from 2 k (Nevsky 63) to 5 k, it depends on the girl. And anal, it's also additional service, and not all girls do it.

But there is no 'top limit', if the client has money, it looks like the sky is the limit. There are Indis in Moscow and Piter who are waaay over 15 k per meeting. For example, a 9 or a 10 for 36 k for the whole night. But this is GFE for a lifetime he said.

In Piter, some girls live in the salon (specially those young newbies one who just came from the province and didn't find a place to live yet which is difficult in any big city), but some have their own flats (specially those local ones and not so young ones).

[SanGaetano]

Does this place have a website?

Websit Idk, I think he contacted them by phone as he is fluent. I can send you the number by PM if you are in town. I will ask him.

[Penetrador]

My Russian friend (who is too shy to post here) has been last week to one of the venues of this chain. By the way the title is a inside hint for itself, because some Russians don't call a hooker a hooker, they use more subtle nicknames like "butterfly" or "fairy".

Logistics: 25 minutes from the center by car. This one was difficult to find because it was in a backyard, and in a basement. When he came down, he also saw a Jacuzzi there and a sauna (but the client can use those only if he stays for at least 2 hours). What was different in this 'salon' is the fact that the girls come, iniside the lobby (where he was supposed to wait) introduce themselves and all of them stayed in the lobby, 8 girls in a line. He then chose one and went to the room with her. Stayed for 1 hour. Thus could not use the Jacuzzi, only the shower.

Prices: 1 hour 6 k. 2 Hours 10 k. BBBJ from 3 k (individual decision of the girl, so not all girls do it). He said he would put it in the same level like Pride, but lower than Frau M.

Does this place have a website?

[SanGaetano]

My Russian friend (who is too shy to post here) has been last week to one of the venues of this chain. By the way the title is a inside hint for itself, because some Russians don't call a hooker a hooker, they use more subtle nicknames like "butterfly" or "fairy".

Logistics: 25 minutes from the center by car. This one was difficult to find because it was in a backyard, and in a basement. When he came down, he also saw a Jacuzzi there and a sauna (but the client can use those only if he stays for at least 2 hours). What was different in this 'salon' is the fact that the girls come, iniside the lobby (where he was supposed to wait) introduce themselves and all of them stayed in the lobby, 8 girls in a line. He then chose one and went to the room with her. Stayed for 1 hour. Thus could not use the Jacuzzi, only the shower.

Prices: 1 hour 6 k. 2 Hours 10 k. BBBJ from 3 k (individual decision of the girl, so not all girls do it). He said he would put it in the same level like Pride, but lower than Frau M.

[SanGaetano]

Relax, most likely nobody will ask where are you from if you just enter, pay, fuck and leave. Bye bye. And IMO she doesn't care much where clients are from; if she bother to ask it will be by pure and naive curiosity. Most girls com from a simple background and the interest for geopolitics is rather limited, which is good, because I am not there to have a deep talk about some boring topics, didn't sign for that.

And this is what I like in Asian, Russian and "most" German hookers, they don't talk much, ha ha, other than Latinas (not dissing Latinas, it's just sometimes difficult to concentrate when the girl is too talkative). I know that some guys just go there for talking, but for me nah, I can do it with my psychologist, which is a real pro.

If the Russian WG talks it's the usual relevant questions like "sverkhu?" or something technical related to a position like "rakom", "Missionerskaya"? I can tell an anecdote my Russian pal told me about a talkative WG he met in Moscow. "-Nooo, Actually I am a student, I am writing about sociology, I am doing this job just for a short time, in fact I like communication too and bla bla bla" Then she started to ask him questions left and right, he used an old trick that almost always work. Instead of being rude "-Shut up suchka and keep sucking!" he kindly answered "-Oh you know what, this seems to be an very interesting topic, I would love to talk to you deeeper about it in all the details and angles after hours, give me your number please". Of course she didn't give the number (and he knew she wouldn't give) and the empty talking ended right there by herself as she understood the indirect subtle message.

[Penetrador]

I think is more individual than that, meaning it varies from person to person. How can she knows if you are a foreigner if you just stand at the door? They never asked me* if I am Russian or not before entering a salon IMO it's about you. Not your passport. If you arrive there wearing cloths like a normal clean person, it does not much matter where are you from (remember that Russia is a multiethnic country). I mean most salons have now cameras in the domofon or above the building door (most of us don't even notice these) you can look like the typical Russian and even have blond hair and blue eyes, but if you walk like a drunker / narco and wear a beaten parka, she will not even answer the bell. Wear a ushanka on top of that and the rejection is guaranteed.

On the other hand you if one arrives wearing good cloths, even if it's casual, but you look like a normal guest, treat them with respect and manners. Then the mamasan will welcome you with a smile, even if you don't look Russian, in my opinion. I myself don't look Russian and have to pass the face control everytime. Even Russians have to pass the face control. They do this not to avoid foreigners, but to avoid troblemakers. It's wise. A friend of mine once went there after work with a big rucksack. Manasan asked him "What do you want? Are you the courier?" Well yes he looks bit kafkaz (this is -including me- almost everybody who has black hair and is not a Asian person, LOL), but the fact that he was with his giant rucksack, gave the impression that he was the Yandex Eda delivery boy. He then explained everything and mamasan finally opened the door for him.

After penetrating into the salon (just to use your nickname as inspiration). Now you have to penetrate thru the next barrier, the girl herself. Like any woman on the planet, she also has her past, her taste and her mentality. We have to respect that. IMO there are 3 kinds of salon girls. The friendly, the unfriendly and the indifferent.

It's not always something connected to you why she is unfriendly, sometimes is a banal reason on her side. Some WGs in Russia are foreigners themselves (usually FSU like Kazakhstan or Ukraine, etc.)..

I think it will be best to say ' I am not American' and say you are from Cuba, Argentina or Venezuela best.

[SanGaetano]

I agree with Romeo. And I am happy that the forum (well at least this thread) is back on focusing on things that really matter to the mongers and less on boring politics which has nothing to do with sex IMO.

About my experience in Piter I can say that the saloni are slowly becoming more professional- well it will possibly lose that old 'amateur' charm, but I'm fine with that.

[CallSignRomeo]

A question to the guys who visit salons: Do you give extra tip? For instance, the price is 5 k per hour, she was good and friendly, you liked the sex, after 1 hour do you just leave after the sex or you give her some additional cash for the good service?

*later in the small talk it can happen of course that she says "so you are a foreigner? Where are you from?" just for curiosity, no offense.

Excellent report San, this is good description of how things work in salons in Russia. To add to your report some salons have CCTV (good ones) and they ask you to take the winter cap (shapka) off and look at the camera for 3 seconds presumably to recognize / snap you and then buzz you in. This kind of salons have good looking ladies and presumably this is done to avoid the trouble makers and idiots as rightly mentioned by you. Not all salon will ask you to look at the camera but majority do have cameras at the door without doubt. Some ladies will only see slavic / slavic looking men and so will not greet you properly when she comes to say Hi which is good as it saves both parties from poor vibes / experience. The ones who like you will do these things- They will give you 'soft eyes' and say Hi (drasveetyeh) with genuine smile and some will come forward and kiss you on cheeks and even hug You. I had one lady shout to me aggressively from behind the door 'I don't speak English' and I replied back 'I speak russian' but this was not enough for her to come into the room. This is before the war / special military operation so now I'm not sure what kind of response foreign guys will get from salon ladies.

You missed some points about the salon. I'll add this here for reference. Before jumping to the bed there is quick get to know meeting between you and the lady. There is onsite bar at most salons that sells drinks at roughly 500-1000 rubles for double whiskey / vodka / rum and whatnot. Contrary to what I thought most ladies will drink and smoke with you and will ask lot of questions and after finishing the cigarette jump into action. I think this is the right approach as she gets chance to know you little bit. For this reason I have said in earlier posts that speaking even some russian can give you better experience. Also you have to take the compulsory shower as she goes to the bar to get the drinks and grab her cigs.

About tip- Absolutely Yes! But only if there was chemistry and if I had good time. It goes without saying. But they know I'm coming from Europe so it is already expected and paid accordingly.

[SanGaetano]

I hope the Salons are catering to foreigners? I Plan going this winter, Summer was cancelled because of west non sense.

I think is more individual than that, meaning it varies from person to person. How can she knows if you are a foreigner if you just stand at the door? They never asked me* if I am Russian or not before entering a salon IMO it's about you. Not your passport. If you arrive there wearing cloths like a normal clean person, it does not much matter where are you from (remember that Russia is a multiethnic country). I mean most salons have now cameras in the domofon or above the building door (most of us don't even notice these) you can look like the typical Russian and even have blond hair and blue eyes, but if you walk like a drunker / narco and wear a beaten parka, she will not even answer the bell. Wear a ushanka on top of that and the rejection is guaranteed.

On the other hand you if one arrives wearing good cloths, even if it's casual, but you look like a normal guest, treat them with respect and manners. Then the mamasan will welcome you with a smile, even if you don't look Russian, in my opinion. I myself don't look Russian and have to pass the face control everytime. Even Russians have to pass the face control. They do this not to avoid foreigners, but to avoid troblemakers. It's wise. A friend of mine once went there after work with a big rucksack. Manasan asked him "What do you want? Are you the courier?" Well yes he looks bit kafkaz (this is -including me- almost everybody who has black hair and is not a Asian person, LOL), but the fact that he was with his giant rucksack, gave the impression that he was the Yandex Eda delivery boy. He then explained everything and mamasan finally opened the door for him.

After penetrating into the salon (just to use your nickname as inspiration). Now you have to penetrate thru the next barrier, the girl herself. Like any woman on the planet, she also has her past, her taste and her mentality. We have to respect that. IMO there are 3 kinds of salon girls. The friendly, the unfriendly and the indifferent.

It's not always something connected to you why she is unfriendly, sometimes is a banal reason on her side. Some WGs in Russia are foreigners themselves (usually FSU like Kazakhstan or Ukraine, etc.).

For example once another friend of mine (he is ethnically Russian, so he follows such telegram channels which advertise girls who will be where and when, I don't follow such channels BTW, I just tried my luck) told me that they posted photos of a girl (without face) which was a kind pf primadonna of that specific day. He went there to that salon not because of her, he wanted to see all of them first and then decide. And of course Primadonna was the first to come to the room and introduce herself, after her 3 other girls came.

When she came, the primadonna behaved unfriendly to him, and he didn't not understand why. He chose the 3rd girl and after the sex they were schmoozing as he said, oh your colleague was a bit cold today, and the girl answered joking "Maybe she is just frustrated that you didn't ask for her right when you entered the salon, or even booked her before you came" like many guys do. So, she was offended that she has to compete with the other 2 girls. If this is really the reason for the ice, he will never know.

Most of the girls are -slava bogu- friendly (she enters the room smiles, introduce herself and sometimes even shake hands with you, sometimes even makes a additional turn to show the assets) or indifferent (she enters the room, introduce herself with her timid smile and goes). The unfriendly one is rather rare in my experience (she introduces herself from the door and leaves, no smile or a very faked one, no shaking hands).

Of course I never ever chose an unfriendly one, despite of the fact that sometimes they are really the best looking. But with coldness the dick won't work, so no thanks.

A question to the guys who visit salons: Do you give extra tip? For instance, the price is 5 k per hour, she was good and friendly, you liked the sex, after 1 hour do you just leave after the sex or you give her some additional cash for the good service?

*later in the small talk it can happen of course that she says "so you are a foreigner? Where are you from?" just for curiosity, no offense.

[Penetrador]

I hope so, hows your russian language skills. You can get above average experience if you speak russian fluently. Also citizens of very few countries can go there these days. I hope things change back for better but I guess it will take some time.

I have none I still want to go so bad.

[CallSignRomeo]

I hope the Salons are catering to foreigners? I Plan going this winter, Summer was cancelled because of west non sense.

I hope so, hows your russian language skills. You can get above average experience if you speak russian fluently. Also citizens of very few countries can go there these days. I hope things change back for better but I guess it will take some time.

[Penetrador]

I had flights booked for last month to St P but it all got cancelled due to current situation. I made call to my taxi driver friend who is from Central Asia and lives there and he suggested there is lot more advertising of salons and the locals are still using it. He said there are lot more independent women on the group chats advertising their services but knowledge of Russian language (as expected) is required.

I hope the Salons are catering to foreigners? I Plan going this winter, Summer was cancelled because of west non sense.

[CallSignRomeo]

I would love to ask the same question. How is the situation in Piter now? Any new good salon?

Are the old ones still active?

Heading to Piter soon..

I had flights booked for last month to St P but it all got cancelled due to current situation. I made call to my taxi driver friend who is from Central Asia and lives there and he suggested there is lot more advertising of salons and the locals are still using it. He said there are lot more independent women on the group chats advertising their services but knowledge of Russian language (as expected) is required.