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  1. #258

    Where?

    Quote Originally Posted by GuyBrusg1957  [View Original Post]
    If I want to visit Spain for the girls, where should I go first? Madrid, Barcelona or Portugal?

    What would you say is the difference?
    Well first of all Portugal is not in Spain. In fact, it's a totally different country! LMAO!

  2. #257
    Quote Originally Posted by GuyBrusg1957  [View Original Post]
    If I want to visit Spain for the girls, where should I go first? Madrid, Barcelona or Portugal?

    What would you say is the difference?
    Depends on what you are looking for, although they all have similarities.

    On a price-adjusted basis, I think Lisbon is the best for a full hour of sex with an escort, particularly if outcall to your hotel room is your thing. Barcelona can be as good for escort outcall, but quite a bit more expensive. So the difference is more pronounced if you are in a budget.

    Where I think Barcelona shines is its houses if "teens" as the Catalans call them. Going to a place like Vecinitas two or three times a day and getting BBBJ and CFS with inexpensive 30 or 45 minute sessions is a dream come true for guys from high-priced countries where the providers are older.

    Madrid is the only one of the three cities with clubs like Vive (although that is not my thing, personally. Madrid is by far the strongest of the three for Russian and Ukrainian ladies. Two of the best looking ladies I have been with in my life were a Russian and a Polish lady in Madrid. Madrid is the only one of the three cities with much of a fetish scene, if you are into alt stuff.

    Lisbon has the best rugged outdoor hiking of the three, although you need to expand your horizons to Sintra, the beaches west of Sintra, Cascais, and / or Setubal / Sesimbra to get the most from that. But with the hills, castles, and rugged beaches with dinosaur footprints, it can be an unforgettable place if you are an outdoorsman.

    Madrid has the best arts / museum scene of the three by far. And the day trip by train options of Toledo and Segovia let you experience the best of Old Europe.

    If you want to stay in one place without venturing too far, "downtown" Barcelona is better than downtown Madrid or Lisbon. The Gothic area, the two Gaudi Parks and his other buildings, most notably Sagrada Familia, and of course the beach and it's walking / biking trail, make you feel like you are on a great vacation the whole time.

    It is really difficult to decide which of the three is the best. Personally, I prefer to rotate them.

  3. #256
    If I want to visit Spain for the girls, where should I go first? Madrid, Barcelona or Portugal?

    What would you say is the difference?

  4. #255
    Quote Originally Posted by Jon32  [View Original Post]
    Well, they're trying to pass a law (today) which will make advertising escort services illegal in print and online.

    Will totally crumble the industry here in Spain, let's see what happens today.
    I disagree.

    Look at the website suffix of the very site you are on.

    The Spanish advertisement sites will have to register in a different country.

    It is a bit of a hassle, but not a huge big deal.

    Almost all USA and Canadian escort advertisements and review websites are registered in friendly European jurisdictions.

  5. #254
    They still have to pass the Spanish Senate before the law goes into effect from what I read. They added in advertising ban at the last minute, but I don't only if it only applies to physical advertisements, online ones, or both.

  6. #253

    And an apology

    I do know how to spell the name of that famous southern France resort coast correctly. It has a hyphen in it. Unfortunately if you attempt to get French spelling past the autocorrect function on this forum it comes out like this: Cote d'Azure. Strangely it will accept l'Azure.

  7. #252
    Quote Originally Posted by Jon32  [View Original Post]
    Well, they're trying to pass a law (today) which will make advertising escort services illegal in print and online.

    Will totally crumble the industry here in Spain, let's see what happens today.
    They passed a law making cocaine illegal. And as you all know, it's now totally impossible to buy the stuff anywhere in Spain. Those people disappearing off to the toilets every five minutes just have weak bladders.

    You can't buck markets. Where you have willing buyers & willing sellers the two will get together & trade. Whatever legislation Madrid gets into its fuzzy little mind to enact, you can sure there will surfeit of intelligence devoted to finding ways round it. They passed the same laws in France a while back. I know girls who are working in France, now. Paris & Rouen. I spoke with a rather up-market house in Lille not so long ago. They're still welcoming visitors. So's a similar one in Bordeaux. Haven't been to the Cote de Azure since well before Covidpanic but a pal lives there reckons he's having fun.

    Yes things will change. And people will make adjustments. Like anything when it disappears below the visible horizon, information will be king. Just stay informed.

  8. #251
    Quote Originally Posted by Jon32  [View Original Post]
    Well, they're trying to pass a law (today) which will make advertising escort services illegal in print and online.

    Will totally crumble the industry here in Spain, let's see what happens today.
    Thanks for sharing. This article goes in depth on the politics behind the move - https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/11/08...ghts-psoe-vox/.

    Very surprising to see a social Democrat do something so stupid. And sad to hear that Spain might be moving backwards on this front even though they are so progressive otherwise.

  9. #250
    Well, they're trying to pass a law (today) which will make advertising escort services illegal in print and online.

    Will totally crumble the industry here in Spain, let's see what happens today.

  10. #249

    American visitor for work in May

    Hi all,

    I'm going to be coming into Spain for nine days and traveling the country a bunch for work, in a new city nearly every day. I've been doing some digging and see that my time in Madrid and Barcelona should make for easy work to reach out to agencies the day of (when I'm ready for company in my hotel). I'm trying to get an idea if I should prepare for challenging days to find service while in:

    Vigo.

    Segovia (looks like it's in the general Madrid area? Will providers make that trip?

    Almansa (looks to be outside of Alicante, same thing will providers travel out that far?

    Zaragoza.

    Ideally I'm looking for outcall to my hotel but as I'll be with coworkers I may just want to venture out if our rooms are nearby. Is it possible to book in advance so I can have my nights locked in? Or is it more of a day of events with these agencies? Also, can I expect some of these girls (with tip of course) to really expand the menu, anal and pornstar action? Or is it pretty straight and to the point? Hoping to tip for extra services and the women to allow me to record. I know it can be a huge no but figure extra cash might help me succeed.

    Thanks for all the clarity! I've been using Mileroticos and a couple others as I browse. Any more input would be helpful.

  11. #248
    Has anyone moved to Spain temporarily to work as a digital nomad or study remotely? How was it? What's the day-to-day life like?

  12. #247
    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaIndigo  [View Original Post]
    https://www.politico.eu/article/sanc...business-psoe/

    If I had to guess it won't pass, I hope it doesn't, as this article says the PP, Popular Party would have to support it for that to happen.
    I wouldn't be so optimistic. To quote from the article you linked to:

    "Eighty percent of women who work in prostitution in Spain do so under coercion after being tricked in their countries of origin by criminal gangs who are dedicated to trafficking human beings," the national police estimate."

    That's a downright lie. I know dozens of girls from outside Spain & there's not one of them isn't working here because she wants to. It's why they came here. They fly home & return after their holidays. I've no doubt many others post on the Spain boards could say the same. But it is part of the political priming for the proposed legislation.

    And this is all about politics & not common sense. I've been talking with one of our local Vox politicians & the politics aren't good. The problem's the optics. Opposing the legislation puts any politician up for being accused of being in favour of trafficking, coerced prostitution, child prostitution, violence against women & anything else you can think of. So, though you may get a lot of debate in favour of the legislation you may get even more silence against it. Vox are opposed & don't mind saying so & taking the flak. The PP have so far come out as undecided, which basically means sitting on the fence. Podemos are split in favour / opposed. So PSOE could get it through on their 120 votes alone against Vox opposed & other parties either for or abstaining. They don't necessarily need an overall majority.

    Doesn't mean Spain won't be worth punting in. But it would be worth learning a little more about the Spanish puta scene other than the location of the nearest puti club, now, if you're intending visiting after the proposed legislation may come into effect. It won't be nearly so easy after.

  13. #246

    Interesting article

    https://www.politico.eu/article/sanc...business-psoe/

    If I had to guess it won't pass, I hope it doesn't, as this article says the PP, Popular Party would have to support it for that to happen.

  14. #245
    Quote Originally Posted by AndalusExpat  [View Original Post]
    I did some phoning around, so I can answer some of my own question.

    There's half a dozen girls live near me on the CDS have worked in France in the past year. Two of them are up there now. Brazilians, Colombian, Venezuelan. Worked in Paris, Rennes, Nantes, Lyon & Metz (One unfortunate lass. Ghastly place) Two I've asked weren't aware they'd been any change in the law. But they've all been working in houses. Brothels have been illegal in France since the '50's, so all houses have been illicit. Wouldn't make any difference. That they've been working in France indicates they've been earning more than they would here. Considerably more I gather & they seem to be content with the conditions they worked in. I rang a house in Lille I know. (Very discrete. Very luxurious. Not cheap.) Same mobile number working. Obviously I kept the phone conversation away from specifics but sounds like business as usual.

    There were the usual street girls offering their services at 8 AM near the market in Toulouse when I passed through in '17. African. Horrible. Viva Street, the internet resource for the desperate, no longer runs pute ads but www.6annonce.com lists quality woman flesh in all the major cities with current ads. French mobile numbers. Interestingly the web domain's registered in Reykjavik, Iceland of all places. Servers probably in the US.

    So it looks like it's still possible to punt in France. But France was never tourist punter friendly. I know (or knew) houses in several cities. Several night clubs & bars it was easy to score. But that's from knowing people who knew things. Specific to their lifestyle. If I'd wanted a lead to a good cheap pute I'd have needed to be drinking with the mecs in a backstreet bar..
    There is lot of escorts advertising online in France. The best websites are Sexemodel, LadyXenia, and wannonce. French authorities are leaving escorts alone last time I checked, and chance of getting fined by police is very low. I would stay away from streetwalkers.

  15. #244

    More France

    I did some phoning around, so I can answer some of my own question.

    There's half a dozen girls live near me on the CDS have worked in France in the past year. Two of them are up there now. Brazilians, Colombian, Venezuelan. Worked in Paris, Rennes, Nantes, Lyon & Metz (One unfortunate lass. Ghastly place) Two I've asked weren't aware they'd been any change in the law. But they've all been working in houses. Brothels have been illegal in France since the '50's, so all houses have been illicit. Wouldn't make any difference. That they've been working in France indicates they've been earning more than they would here. Considerably more I gather & they seem to be content with the conditions they worked in. I rang a house in Lille I know. (Very discrete. Very luxurious. Not cheap.) Same mobile number working. Obviously I kept the phone conversation away from specifics but sounds like business as usual.

    There were the usual street girls offering their services at 8 AM near the market in Toulouse when I passed through in '17. African. Horrible. Viva Street, the internet resource for the desperate, no longer runs pute ads but www.6annonce.com lists quality woman flesh in all the major cities with current ads. French mobile numbers. Interestingly the web domain's registered in Reykjavik, Iceland of all places. Servers probably in the US.

    So it looks like it's still possible to punt in France. But France was never tourist punter friendly. I know (or knew) houses in several cities. Several night clubs & bars it was easy to score. But that's from knowing people who knew things. Specific to their lifestyle. If I'd wanted a lead to a good cheap pute I'd have needed to be drinking with the mecs in a backstreet bar.

    So maybe that's what'll happen if the Spanish legislation gets on the books. Those in the know will prosper. Those don't will be locked out.

    *Like Spain, French mobile numbers require registration of ID particulars. But again like Spain, it's easy to buy unattributable SIM's if you have the connections.

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