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  1. #3396
    Quote Originally Posted by AndalusExpat  [View Original Post]
    It's going to depend on the time scale over which restrictions are lifted. Puti clubs are going to among the last things to go back to normal. How do you socially distance in a knocking shop? And don't think the authorities are going to cut them any slack. They'll be the first places blamed if infection rates go back up, or even regarded as falling too slowly. They're an easy target. The police have been harassing working apartments right from when lockdown started and they're still doing so.

    I don't think anyone here really appreciates how much damage the lockdown has done to the Spanish economy.
    Sounds grim all round. But then the oldest profession in the world will obviously survive, and as previously reported I suspect the quality might increase (in terms of better looking girls deciding to earn quick money by joining the game at least until things improve) - that is certainly the case with private escorts in some other European countries. For those of us who like the clubs, we can only hope that those who run the clubs have made enough cash over time to enable survival. Of course as you say though, even if they do re-open will people have jobs / incomes to be able to afford attendance? The Spanish mentality to economics has always baffled me. I once had to pay nearly doubt the price for a round of golf at a great and well known course. When I asked why the price was so high the answer was "we are not busy so we need to charge more to those who come! When I ventured to suggest if he halved the normal price he might attract double the custom. Which would stay after gradual increases to normal, he looked at me like I was the crazy one! Hope the girls don't take that approach! I doubt it. Keep well and fingers crossed 2020 will end with some return to normality.

  2. #3395
    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    N I have been messaging a fav of mine who works at E92 and she said the club owner has tried to assure the girls that the club will indeed reopen when allowed and he will welcome them back. I think a lot of managed to get home to EE or beyond. A few have remained in Spain and are working from apartments etc. I was also told that (as you correctly reported) prices have dropped as custom is thin on the ground. I will be very surprised if the wealth behind Scandalos allows the club to close. But I also have my doubts that it will drop prices at all. The prices at E92 were already very reasonable and negotiable so I cannot see a big reduction there either at least until the punters start rolling back in. I suspect the bigger question will be when the clubs will be permitted to reopen. But I could well see the Glass Palaces and Fontana not making it to the other side. I hope that villa of yours is big. You might be the biggest open venue on the CDS soon! Well done in helping the girls and Mia get to her new workplace even if it sounds a bit dodgy!
    Well, the club owner would say that, wouldn't he? He's preserving his option to keep the club open This is all about margins. I haven't the vaguest how profitable a club is. But market theory would suggest an enterprise with a high profit margin will quickly find competitors moving in to share in the bounty. Competition then reduces the profit margin to the point where it's compatible with the return on capital deployed in all sectors of an economy. It is just a business, like any other. The question is, will turnover drop to the point where a club is no longer profitable? Running at a loss, they could very quickly exhaust cash reserves. And they will have been burning money, the past 3 months. They have fixed costs, irrespective of whether they're open or not. They may also be servicing debt.

    It's going to depend on the time scale over which restrictions are lifted. Puti clubs are going to among the last things to go back to normal. How do you socially distance in a knocking shop? And don't think the authorities are going to cut them any slack. They'll be the first places blamed if infection rates go back up, or even regarded as falling too slowly. They're an easy target. The police have been harassing working apartments right from when lockdown started and they're still doing so.

    I don't think anyone here really appreciates how much damage the lockdown has done to the Spanish economy. They knock-on effects aren't really showing up yet. You don't know if a business continues to be profitable until you re-open it. It's fairly obvious that the few bars etc have reopened are running at a loss. There wasn't much profit in the businesses last year. Why so many close shortly after being started. If you can't show a profit with a full bar, how do you do so limited to a third of the customers?

    I knocked the villa on the head the start of last year. It was an experiment done for fun. And it was good fun, at times. You probably could do it for profit, but it's incredibly hard work. Not helped by the people you're relying on mostly working against you rather than with you. You soon realize why the people run villas treat the girls so badly. They don't respond to being treated well. The majority of putas are lazy, selfish, stupid, ignorant, unreliable little thieves with the intellects of goldfish. They can't even comprehend their own self interest or learni from experience. It's why they're putas. Few of them have any friends, male or female, because they don't make good friends for other people. That said, I have acquired a little posse here who seem to realise that friendship can be more than an opportunity to skin people for their money. Some of them go back several years. That's swelled in the last couple of months because there's been a lot of girls needing help to get through this. Friends of friends, mainly. Whether they become permanencies depends on them. Usually takes 6 months before I have much confidence in them. The current apartment's conveniently bang in the middle of town. Four bedroom, so there's usually a couple here. But there's been more than a dozen, on occasions, doubling up & crashing on sofas. Too much of a good thing!

  3. #3394
    Quote Originally Posted by AndalusExpat  [View Original Post]
    Bereft of Mia for a couple of weeks, at least I still have my very own Scandalos girl demonstrating her talents in the kitchen. She's an obsessive cleaner as well. Both Mia and Julia are on the www.secretgarden.sexy website.
    Nice and interesting report as always. Thanks for keeping us all in the loop even if most of us cannot yet travel. Looks like flights will operate from early July. I have been messaging a fav of mine who works at E92 and she said the club owner has tried to assure the girls that the club will indeed reopen when allowed and he will welcome them back. I think a lot of managed to get home to EE or beyond. A few have remained in Spain and are working from apartments etc. I was also told that (as you correctly reported) prices have dropped as custom is thin on the ground. I will be very surprised if the wealth behind Scandalos allows the club to close. But I also have my doubts that it will drop prices at all. The prices at E92 were already very reasonable and negotiable so I cannot see a big reduction there either at least until the punters start rolling back in. I suspect the bigger question will be when the clubs will be permitted to reopen. But I could well see the Glass Palaces and Fontana not making it to the other side. I hope that villa of yours is big. You might be the biggest open venue on the CDS soon! Well done in helping the girls and Mia get to her new workplace even if it sounds a bit dodgy!

  4. #3393
    Quote Originally Posted by Banger66  [View Original Post]
    To all of you fellow pervs who live out in Spain, make sure you take care of yourselves in this difficult time.

    It won't be long before we are all back doing the things we love to do!

    Keep your peckers up!

    Regards.

    Banger.
    Heard the lockdown extended till June end, 31st that is. If yes then we wait for a few more days. Most of them are becoming uneasy and raring to go out. Guess Sanchez decides what to do next.

  5. #3392

    Coals to Newcastle

    Yesterday Mia from Medellin, who's been staying with me the past few days, got an offer of a plaza at a house at Chiclana de la Frontera, near Cadiz, so I thought I'd run her down there for a change of scenery. First time I've driven more than locally for a while. Traffic was very light for a Friday afternoon. The peaja was only taking plastic. It declined my multi-currency debit card but accepted the Spanish. And the restaurants and toilets in the service areas were shut. Couple truckers got the benefit of a free look at Mia's butt as she squatted for an emergency pee by the exit lane. We took the coast road past Algeciras because I wanted to look at the ground from Tarifa towards Cadiz where the prelude to the Peninsular War Battle of Barrosa played out. Pleased I did. I'd imagined it as been sere and parched like my stretch of the coast but it's actually quite verdant and rolling rather than mountainous. More reminiscent of Portugal. No doubt the influence of its proximity to the Atlantic. It was certainly a few degrees cooler than I'm accustomed to.

    Terminal guidance was problematic. The car GPS had never heard of the street name I'd been provided with. But we found the Eroski supermarket on the outskirts of Chiclana and Mia knew her way from there. The "house" looked like a rental place the proprietor had taken for the purpose. Behind a sliding gate with parking space for a few cars. Decor very much in Spanish style. Brown and gloomy. Large salon with sofas and TV and several bedrooms. It reflects the Spanish idea of hospitality common across this game. Do the minimum required and sit back and wait for the money to role in. Anyone who's seen my apartment or the villa before it knows it's not an attitude I share. And I only do it as a hobby. It's certainly more interesting than golf. As for the talent available. It was early evening when we arrived and only a couple of well proportioned blondes were on display. One Brasilera, the other another Colombiana. The lad in his twenties played host seemed as thick as mince. Tried to sell me an hour with one of them. Didn't seem to occur to him that a bloke arrives with his own puta probably doesn't need help in that direction.

    Those wanting to know more can view the house website can view it at www.casatemtaciones.com Where Mia has mysteriously been transformed into Agatha from Puerto Rico. Why, I haven't a clue. Her accent is nothing like Purto Rican and her connection to the Caribbean is having lived on Aruba. She speaks Dutch and travels on a Dutch passport when not using the Colombian.

    The map on the website shows the house as being in Calle del Velero. My phone, when I saved the location, seemed to think it was in Camino del Pino Gordo. So there seems to be some confusion over where the road changes from one name to the other. How very Spanish!

    Recommended? I wouldn't bother. If I was on that end of the coast I'd be homing in on my friend Linda's house at Duquesa where I'd get a better welcome. But if you're intending coming down this way when flights restart and wanting to get your ashes hauled, you're going to have to explore these options. Can't see clubs reopening any time soon. If they even survive. The game is definitely changing. Girls who are working are reluctantly dropping prices. There really isn't much money about and the damage the shutdown has caused hasn't even begun to work its way through the economy yet. It's going to get tougher.

    Bereft of Mia for a couple of weeks, at least I still have my very own Scandalos girl demonstrating her talents in the kitchen. She's an obsessive cleaner as well. Both Mia and Julia are on the www.secretgarden.sexy website.

  6. #3391
    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    Really interesting post so thanks. Firstly, I'm sure we are all wondering if your "guests" are "paying" for accommodation other than with cash. And if the answer is yes your Sunday evening must have been amazing!

    To the future. I'll repeat what I've posted in the German FKK forums. I believe that when we get through the other side of this it will be party time for us guys. More pretty girls will work to make money than previously, so talent levels will increase. Prices will be lower for a short while only. I agree some clubs will fold but I doubt the main ones Scandalos, Estark 92 and Fontana will do so. But prices at the first and last of these will have to drop to attract new custom.

    There will be many married guys desperate to escape lockdown, blow some cash not spent and will hit the available ladies. And yet some mongers will have ditched the habit and will not return.

    But prostitution and men's need for it has lasted for many thousands of years. And it will be back raring to go on the CDS when travel is permitted again. I think your September hunch is about right. Until then, stay safe!
    You're welcome, PFI. But sorry to disappoint you. Since I started getting involved with the xicas, on a social rather than business level, I've always stuck by the rule 'Nada es para nada'. You're paying somewhere along the way and the less obligations accumulated the better. I also have a great deal of respect for the girls. It's a job like any job. When I was in business, I had friends amongst the clients. Didn't mean they didn't get invoices. And in any case Sunday night I was too knackered. Saturday, one of my closer friends was here. She'd been stuck in lockdown with her disabled mother in Torremolinos, since it first started & was starting to gnaw on the furniture Gave her a Colombiana who's also very keen on girls to play with. Let's just say they enjoyed themselves, immensely. And they both got paid. For an hour, anyway. That we were still awake at 7 am wasn't my fault! Otherwise I mostly just ignore them. Treat them like I would any other friends. They don't pay anything because they haven't any money & I don't take payment in services. I know where that'd end up.

    I think you may be optimistic about the clubs. It's all about margins. The big clubs have big overheads. They need a considerable turnover to break even. If they do reopen towards the autumn, there'll be little money floating about. You have to remember that for the Spanish guys, the clubs are not really about sex. They're more entertainment & social. If they just want to screw a girl, they go to an apartment where it's half the price. Yes there'll be high earners who'll weather the economic storm. But how many? I've one of the Scandalos girls here at the moment. Sorry, I'm not going to tell you which one. She hated the place. We're more like a big extended family than an ongoing cat fight. She may even end up as a permanency.

    You're right about the pretty girls. There's a few that I know, have apartments here but don't work here. They work in Northern Europe where the money's better or Spain's more select establishments. Now they've joined the local talent for rent and they're a cut above the usual. Looking at Pasion ads, they're not the only ones. I might force myself to check.

  7. #3390
    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    And yet some mongers will have ditched the habit and will not return.
    And any fellow who does this, I say was never ever really a true monger LOL!

  8. #3389

    The future

    Quote Originally Posted by AndalusExpat  [View Original Post]
    Since no one has reported from here for the past couple months, thought I'd write something let you know what's going on. Well Coronavirus has certainly been an unwelcome guest at the party. Basically, everything stopped dead.

    And it's been very, very tough for the girls.
    For me, unlike for most people here, the past couple months have hardly been boring. I've a lot of friends amongst the girls and I've been doing my best to help them. Feeding more than a few of them and providing a couple with accommodation. There were eight round the dinner table Sunday evening.
    What you're going to find when you are able to come back down here I couldn't tell you, but I can guess. I doubt if all of the clubs will be reopening, so you club fanboyz* are in for a hard time.Spain's headed to be a poor country again. Bad for the Spanish, a bonanza for you. If you can get here.
    Really interesting post so thanks. Firstly, I'm sure we are all wondering if your "guests" are "paying" for accommodation other than with cash. And if the answer is yes your Sunday evening must have been amazing!

    To the future. I'll repeat what I've posted in the German FKK forums. I believe that when we get through the other side of this it will be party time for us guys. More pretty girls will work to make money than previously, so talent levels will increase. Prices will be lower for a short while only. I agree some clubs will fold but I doubt the main ones Scandalos, Estark 92 and Fontana will do so. But prices at the first and last of these will have to drop to attract new custom.

    There will be many married guys desperate to escape lockdown, blow some cash not spent and will hit the available ladies. And yet some mongers will have ditched the habit and will not return.

    But prostitution and men's need for it has lasted for many thousands of years. And it will be back raring to go on the CDS when travel is permitted again. I think your September hunch is about right. Until then, stay safe!

  9. #3388

    Dispatch from the front line

    Since no one has reported from here for the past couple months, thought I'd write something let you know what's going on. Well Coronavirus has certainly been an unwelcome guest at the party. Basically, everything stopped dead. Go outside and you were likely to run into the police, who'd tell you to go back home or slap you with a 600 fine.

    And it's been very, very tough for the girls. Although some of the independents are registered as autonomo (self employed) and are eligible for social security pay outs, most of them aren't. Being registered means a 250 minimum social security payment monthly, irrespective of earnings. For an apartment girl on the usual 50/50 split that translates into 10 half hour /50 tricks. In the quiet times of the year a complete week's earning gone before she thinks about feeding herself, let alone her other expenses. Your girls are high maintenance. A weekly nail job will probably set them back 30, hair more. And on top, she'd be liable for being assessed for income tax. It's a powerful disincentive. So, basically, we've got girls living on fresh air & hope. Some of them have been trying to work through the lockdown right from the off. A handful, initially, but this has increased as need has triumphed over fear of infection. Until now, the Pasion advertising resource is back to pretty well the usual level of population. But it's not producing much. Many of the girls have only been able to offer outcalls. Clients have been reluctant to travel and a working apartment with a stream of visiting men is hardly going to be popular with the neighbours. Not saying there's many clients anyway. The married ones playing away would have difficulty explaining their absence and there just isn't any money about.

    For me, unlike for most people here, the past couple months have hardly been boring. I've a lot of friends amongst the girls and I've been doing my best to help them. Feeding more than a few of them and providing a couple with accommodation. There were eight round the dinner table Sunday evening. I try to keep it to practical help rather than money. There simply wouldn't be enough money to do it. At times it's had aspects of a film about the French Resistance under Occupation curfew. Putas making furtive dashes through deserted streets fearful of being captured. But I can proudly say that I'm currently running the best restaurant bar in the town. It's the only one that's open. And the clientele is a delight. OK. I've exposed myself to some personal risk and we've been subverting the purpose of the quarantine. But the quarantine hit girls much harder than most. For many of them, their "home" is the suitcase they wheel from one apartment or club to another. Their bed, anywhere they can find one. Their entertainment a phone on pay-as-you-go data if they're somewhere without WiFi and can afford the phone credit. And no one else is bothered.

    What you're going to find when you are able to come back down here I couldn't tell you, but I can guess. I doubt if all of the clubs will be reopening, so you club fanboyz* are in for a hard time. It's unlikely to be permitted before September at the earliest and 6 months without revenue will do for a lot of them. We're already seeing regular businesses folding. If they do, it'll be to vastly reduced custom. There's so much money been sucked out of the economy. Particularly on this coast which depended heavily on tourism. Prices are going to have to fall. They were going to have to anyway. Since I first came down here, 7 years ago, apartment girl prices have crept up from 50/60 an hour to 100 and over. That's against a background of falling client spending. For a start Brit tourists and ex-pat's, who's spending make a significant contribution to the coast's economy, have seen a hefty devaluation of the GBP against the Euro in the past 3 years and have had less to spend. It's the Latin tendency to ignore economics whilst economics doesn't ignore them has got all the Club Med countries in the shit. And it looks like there'll be more girls trying to work here. The S. Americans can't go home because there are no flights and they couldn't afford them if there were. There are a lot of local girls trying their hand because unemployment is soaring. Generally, Spain's being kicked 30 years backwards. Just at the moment I'm being told "I'm not going to fuck anyone for under 100 an hour!" That fantasy is not going to survive not being able to eat. Prices will fall considerably. Much the same will happen elsewhere. As I write, apartment rents demanded are still the same as before the lockdown. But there are going to be few holiday lets taken this season and there's much less money about, generally. They are going to have to reduce. The same is going to apply to business rents, because so many businesses are closing. Unless there's massive transfers of money from northern countries to southern. And the decision of the German Constitutional Court last week against debt mutualisation makes that unlikely. Spain's headed to be a poor country again. Bad for the Spanish, a bonanza for you. If you can get here.

  10. #3387

    Take care of yourselves

    To all of you fellow pervs who live out in Spain, make sure you take care of yourselves in this difficult time.

    It won't be long before we are all back doing the things we love to do!

    Keep your peckers up!

    Regards.

    Banger.

  11. #3386

    One for the club fanboyz

    New? I've never heard of it. Spotted heading for Torremolinos from Plaza Mayor on the north side of theroundabout junction of the M21 with the A404. Calls itself Club Luna or Luna something. It's not showing up noticeably on Street View with a 2017 time stamp but I'd suspects it's the large red villa next to the industrial buildings. The big sign depicting a xica recumbent would seem to indicate it's not a retirement home. What it offers I haven't a clue and I've no intention of finding out. I'll leave that to the more. Intrepid.

  12. #3385
    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    El Themple website crashes and won't open. Secret Garden has links but again crash. Would be interested in your Elivria experience if you do it. Cheers.
    Themple hasn't got a website, as far as I'm aware. I haven't linked to anything on SD, but if you tap / click on the homepage photo there's a couple dozen images they sent me. It's not crashing on my phone / laptop / tablet W7/ Android.

    The Elviria place opened at the weekend so unsurprisingly it was quiet. It's hardly out of February and everywhere's the same. Small bar, tiny dance floor & a pole. All they need's a pole dancer. I was chatting with a couple of Lithuanian girls. Attractive enough. But I don't really need to plough bar girls. I've enough willing talent will visit. But if it gets off the ground it'll be a nice place to take people. Xica behind the bar's a honey. My G and T cost 10 & drinks for the girls was 20 each. A romp's 100/ hour. I'll stick details on the site when I get photos.

  13. #3384
    Quote Originally Posted by AndalusExpat  [View Original Post]
    Surprised you didn't find a link to their putisite ads. I did. Try "El Themple, Malaga" I'll put something on the www.secretgarden.sexy website when I get a chance.
    El Themple website crashes and won't open. Secret Garden has links but again crash. Would be interested in your Elivria experience if you do it. Cheers.

  14. #3383
    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    Sounds great but I googled and cannot find this place. Is the spelling of Themple correct? Nice report but if you could provide name or website details that would be terrific thanks.
    Surprised you didn't find a link to their putisite ads. I did. Try "El Themple, Malaga" I'll put something on the www.secretgarden.sexy website when I get a chance. When I tried ringing them on Sunday, both their mobile numbers were dropping out after half a dozen rings. But I got a response on Whatsapp. Don't know what that was all about. There's also a new place opened up at Elviria. I may go along there, tonight and check it out. A new apartment opened up above the supermarket in Los Boliches. I've put photos of a couple of the girls on the site. Rubi's been round on an outcall more than once. Great fun if you like Latinas in the hour-glass configuration. Real trier. And on the subject of impressive structures, Liz is back from Madrid. I know a couple of guys watch this forum have had the pleasure and will welcome the information.

  15. #3382
    Quote Originally Posted by AndalusExpat  [View Original Post]
    The Themple occupies an entire large building at Calle Marques de Guardiaro 4, off of Alamos. Opened about six months ago. This place is serious quality. I think I found paradise.
    Sounds great but I googled and cannot find this place. Is the spelling of Themple correct? Nice report but if you could provide name or website details that would be terrific thanks.

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