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  1. #2032

    Some thoughts about mongering in Ukraine

    I think all planets aligned now and there is a huge opportunity to have sex with hot Ukrainian women. I wanted to take the time to write a long post about it. Please don't judge me. The situation is as it and it would be dumb not benefit from it.

    Let's remind you the situation and its consequences:

    Many men are on the front line. This means that many Ukrainian young women are on their own. They are not likely to meet a husband or a boyfriend soon. Also, because of the curfew, women can't go out and meet men in bars and nightclubs. They are less likely to find sexual partners. So, Ukrainian women need sex.

    Also, now, regular Ukrainian escorts face a major problem. Their rich customers aren't in the country anymore. Some rich Ukrainian men have left the country and no male tourists are in Kiev. Because of this situation, Ukrainian women aren't in a position to ask customers to pay a lot of money. Let's sum up, they live in one of the poorest countries in Europe, they earn little money, prices got higher because of inflation, they live in a country at war, there is a lot of competition between hot girls in Ukraine and little demand.

    Here is what you should do to avoid getting scammed.

    1/ When you get the whatsapp of an Ukrainian escort online, ask her the price in Ukrainian using google translate.

    2/ Never offer a price, your price will likely be too high. I did this mistake at the beginning. I suggested a price and it was too much. I paid too much. Silly me.

    Secondly, because of the inflation, things are more difficult for young Ukrainian women. A financial aid would help them to buy basic needs.

    Lviv and Odessa are the safest cities. Lviv is far away from the front line. The city has been targeted only once. In fact, a military base was the target. Odessa is even safer than Lviv because Russia agreed to let ships transport grains. However, Kiev is an Eldorado nowadays. Escorts, semi-pro, amateurs really need money in Kiev. I browsed the classified ads of escorts on ukrgo and found that it is a gold mine. (I posted the link to the escort page of ukrgo. Open it in edge or chrome to get the translation).

    So, several men here wonder whether many escorts left Ukraine to work abroad. I don't know the situation in the USA or the Arabic Peninsula but I know the situation in west Europe very well. I haven't seen an increase in the number of Ukrainian escorts in Spain, UK, Netherlands, Germany, Czech Republic.

    So now, I would like to talk about something important: high expectations of Ukrainian women. These women live in small apartments in poverty and they sometimes dream about getting paid thousands of euros for a night. So, don't be afraid to say "no" if an Ukrainian woman asks you to pay too much money.

    I asked 50 regular Ukrainian women on dating sites to have sex in exchange for money. I asked the following "to have fun in exchange for a money gift". None of them had a hysterical reaction. The best-looking ones had to think before answering. That's why they need to know your telegram account or your phone number. So, if a woman says no first, you can tell her that if she changes her mind, you are here and ready, it would be simple, discreet and straight forward. Now, I think that it is even possible to ask women in public places of Lviv, Odessa, Kiev. I am trying to find a way to imply the subject before being too pushy. There are too many scammers online on websites like seeking or mamba. Women of the real-world are the best. I think that business cards can be really helpful by mentioning on it your telegram / whatsapp. Don't forget that bars and nightclubs are closed. So, coffee shops, Mc donald's are the best hunt places.

    As I said before, I expected a lot before from the immigration of Ukrainian women to western European countries. Nothing happened. We haven't more opportunities in Germany, Austria, Czech Republic than before.

  2. #2031

    Why it is worth going to Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Ricko85  [View Original Post]
    Thank you all for the replies. I'm going to Krakow in mid-October and will try to cross over to Lviv by road. I will share my experiences with you.
    You are right because there are no opportunities in Poland. For all the guys who read this. In Poland, you will never have as many opportunities as in Ukraine. You will just get frustrated in Krakow and Warsaw by watching hot female Ukrainian refugees without being able to talk to them. Some months ago, I thought: "wow it us great, Ukrainian women visit the west and we will be able to have fun with them because they need money. This didn't happen. There are not more classified ads of Ukrainian escorts on local websites in the west. Also, Ukrainian refugees in the west are not as open as if you would meet them in Ukraine. Also I didn't see an increase in streetwalkers. Maybe it us because of language barrier but anyways. All these chicks are open for business when they are in Ukraine and a translation app will do the job. You just need to be aware of local prices. Don't contribute to inflation. Ukrainian women are more relaxed in their country.

    Also, I don't know if I mentioned it before but the long trip from Poland to Kiev by train works in our advantage. Since all airports are closed Ukrainian escorts can hardly leave the country to go to escort destinations like Dubai or Spain. Also, Ukrainian escorts in turkey see a soaring competition of Russian escorts.

  3. #2030

    Anyone in Lviv? Kiev is too far from city przemysl by train

    These photos at Ukrgo are exploding, and I started planning going to Ukraine.

    Airbnb owner in Kiev told me there are trains from city przemysl (Poland) train to kyiv.

    But it looks like half day trip while there are still threats of Putin to bomb Ukraine with his nuclear toy.

    Girls are asking amazingly low price for staying over night, since there is curfew, and foreigners can provide much better staying with food and drinks.

    These girls seem to be really stressed. To be really horny out of survival instinct.

    Lviv seems to be teeming with hot girls who are pinched between EU countries and Eastern Ukraine war zones.

    Is anyone having fun in Lviv?

  4. #2029

    Is it stupid to visit Ukraine right now?

    Thank you all for the replies. I'm going to Krakow in mid-October and will try to cross over to Lviv by road. I will share my experiences with you.

  5. #2028
    Quote Originally Posted by HenriDufresne  [View Original Post]
    At Nero6,

    You are right about the nightclubs. The curfew is still here all over Ukraine, I have just found this article:

    https://zaxid.net/lvivski_politseysk...odini_n1548542

    In other words, everybody should be home at 23 h00 in Ukraine and there is no exception.

    In fact, I have chatted with some Ukrainian prostitutes and I think they tried to manipulate me. They made me believe their life came back to normal but it can't be true. They face major constraints. The real problem is their attitude.

    In reality, they should beg for work and lower their price because they can't work as before. But today, these girls want to make us believe, they have as many customers as before and they are ready to pay as much and even more than before.

    It can't be possible because these women can't work from 23 h00 and 5 h00. No guy will take the risk to be arrested by the Ukrainian police in the night while trying to visit a pro.

    I find the new generation of Ukrainian prostitutes cocky and greedy in the midst of this war period.
    Curfew is in full effect in Ukraine.

    Bars and clubs are shut by 23:00 unless you find one that keeps customers locked in until 05:00.

    Your best bet is an all-nighter with a prostitute if you need extended hours. A few offer discounts for this option.

    You also have understood there are plenty of Ukrainian men who cannot leave see these women at local prices compared to tourists who are pretty scared at the moment.

    Also. Many pros have left Ukraine for Western Europe and the USA through visa applications so I guess the remaining girls have become greedy.

  6. #2027

    Nero6

    At Nero6,

    You are right about the nightclubs. The curfew is still here all over Ukraine, I have just found this article:

    https://zaxid.net/lvivski_politseysk...odini_n1548542

    In other words, everybody should be home at 23 h00 in Ukraine and there is no exception.

    In fact, I have chatted with some Ukrainian prostitutes and I think they tried to manipulate me. They made me believe their life came back to normal but it can't be true. They face major constraints. The real problem is their attitude.

    In reality, they should beg for work and lower their price because they can't work as before. But today, these girls want to make us believe, they have as many customers as before and they are ready to pay as much and even more than before.

    It can't be possible because these women can't work from 23 h00 and 5 h00. No guy will take the risk to be arrested by the Ukrainian police in the night while trying to visit a pro.

    I find the new generation of Ukrainian prostitutes cocky and greedy in the midst of this war period.

  7. #2026
    Quote Originally Posted by HenriDufresne  [View Original Post]
    At ricko85.

    I would like to develop my opinion about going to Ukraine right now. Most of the country is peaceful right now.

    I watched the classified ads of pros on ukrgo (see link in one of my posts) and I have never seen so many beautiful women since a while. I think that the women who wanted to go to Dubai (it is an immensely popular destination for young Ukrainian prostitutes nowadays) have decided to stay in Ukraine. I think that now, in Ukraine, there are big opportunities to have sex with the hottest beautiful women this country offers. These women need money.

    Also, you can convince semi pro to take the leap because their situation would be much worse if they would work in a bar of Dubai.

    Now, many prostitutes who moved to Poland are disappointed. They thought they could work in Poland, but they can't. They don't have enough job in Poland..
    You are right in your report. Many Ukraine girls come back to Ukraine (Europe was not as easy as they thought and difficult to make money). Some girls prices is so crazy in Kiev now. Both with an indi and in salon / pro places. And again in the salon / apartments the girls does not get much of the money for being with a client (it is the people there run the places there take the most). And many indi have the gold digger mindset. But you can be lucky to find a good girl for the right prices. (it take time). Never just pay there asking price. And still not many tourist here. And many people here have no job. If they are lucky to have a job the salary much much lower than before the war.

    If you are a young foreigner man perhaps more easy I not know.

    Which nightbars or lounge bars are you talking about?? (we still have curfew at 23:00 here).

    And if they are open you have to stay there till the next morning 05:00.

    In Kiev we have air alarm (some days many and some days none). And it is long time since there was an attract (explosion) in Kiev but it is war and we never know when the next explosion will be in Kiev. So I can not tell you if Kiev is safe or not. Also you most remember that with train from Przemysl to Kiev it can take 11-14 hours (dependent on the situation). Some of my friends will not travel that many hours so instead of going to Kiev they stay in Lviv for some day's.

    Henri are you in Kiev now?

  8. #2025

    About Ukraine part 2

    At ricko85.

    I would like to develop my opinion about going to Ukraine right now. Most of the country is peaceful right now.

    I watched the classified ads of pros on ukrgo (see link in one of my posts) and I have never seen so many beautiful women since a while. I think that the women who wanted to go to Dubai (it is an immensely popular destination for young Ukrainian prostitutes nowadays) have decided to stay in Ukraine. I think that now, in Ukraine, there are big opportunities to have sex with the hottest beautiful women this country offers. These women need money.

    Also, you can convince semi pro to take the leap because their situation would be much worse if they would work in a bar of Dubai.

    Now, many prostitutes who moved to Poland are disappointed. They thought they could work in Poland, but they can't. They don't have enough job in Poland.

    So, many women who moved to Poland either moved back to Ukraine or went to Turkey. I thought there would be an influx of Ukrainian prostitutes into Germany, Spain because of the war but this didn't happen.

    To me, it looks like many pros have decided to resume their job in Ukraine, especially in Nightclubs of Ukraine. Nightclubs and lounge bars reopened, and you can find pros in the night.

    The biggest problem with the new generation of Ukrainian pro isn't the war, this is their gold digger mindset. Many women from generation Z, would like you to support them financially. They may use the war as an excuse. So, follow a simple rule. Never give money for free. Always ask for sex in exchange for money. Otherwise, you may pay them and they will vanish in the air. So, in this case, you must make an offer and know the local prices. To know it contact a woman on ukrgo via whatsapp. Use google translate to translate in Ukraine so that the girl will think you are Ukrainian and she will tell you the local prices; not the gringo prices. Then, once you know the prices for your area, you can talk to a woman in a bar or a club, and make an offer. Ukrainian women are not like Romanian women, don't take it bad if you offer sex in exchange for money. A woman may say no, but if you give her your telegram account she may change her mind afterwards.

    There is just a right way to ask for it. Ask for sex in exchange for a money gift and you give an offer with a price. If she does not understand it is time to use a translation app.

  9. #2024
    Quote Originally Posted by Ricko85  [View Original Post]
    Hello everyone,

    I am planning a trip for 4-5 nights in October. I don't have much money so I searched cheap Balkan countries and Central European countries. Unfortunately, all strip clubs are more expensive than in Ukraine. I especially miss Kharkiv's strip clubs. Anyway.

    My questions:

    1) Do you think it is safe to travel to Lviv? Or to Kiev?

    2) Do strip clubs work in Lviv and Kiev?

    3) Did the war and internal turmoil create a security problem? So, is it dangerous to travel as a tourist in terms of public order?

    4) Last time I was in Ukraine in the summer of 2021. Is there an increase in prices in dollars? I'm talking prostitute, alcohol and strip club prices..
    1/ Don't forget that all airports are closed in Ukraine. I think it takes 16 hours to reach Kiev from Warsawa (at Polish border) by train. By car, it takes 9 h00.

    I would suggest to take a taxi from Poland:

    https://fasttaxi.com.ua/mezhdugorodn...hava-aeroport/

    2/ I am sorry, I don't know about Strip clubs, but I know that escort agencies are hiring in Kiev, (I saw an ad on the internet). So, I think business is coming back to normal.

    3/ A significant number of foreigners are now in Ukraine. Let's take an example of the youtuber, Johnny FD:

    https://www.youtube.com/c/JohnnyFD

    Some Ukrainian went back to Ukraine:

    https://www.youtube.com/c/TayaUkraine/videos

    I don't think it is dangerous in Lviv, Odessa or Kiev. The trip is the problem number ONE.

    4/ Prices of escorts remain unchanged but I don't know about the rest.

    5/ Really, in 2022, I don't think there is an alternative. Current situation is complicated. Now, in FKK clubs of Germany there are less Russians and Ukrainians. Many Ukrainians prostitutes are in Ukraine and they don't want to leave Ukraine. It is too complicated to leave Ukraine because of the time it takes to leave Ukraine. Some women also think that taking the train is unsafe. So, the situation is really strange. So, this means that right now, in Kiev for instance, there is a good choice of beautiful prostitutes.

    Proof, you can find many classified ads of escorts on the local websites:

    http://kiev.ukrgo.com/view_subsectio...subsection=146

    I chatted with some of these women, they prefer to stay in Ukraine rather than fly to Dubai or go to Germany.

  10. #2023

    Is it stupid to visit Ukraine right now?

    Hello everyone,

    I am planning a trip for 4-5 nights in October. I don't have much money so I searched cheap Balkan countries and Central European countries. Unfortunately, all strip clubs are more expensive than in Ukraine. I especially miss Kharkiv's strip clubs. Anyway.

    My questions:

    1) Do you think it is safe to travel to Lviv? Or to Kiev?

    2) Do strip clubs work in Lviv and Kiev?

    3) Did the war and internal turmoil create a security problem? So, is it dangerous to travel as a tourist in terms of public order?

    4) Last time I was in Ukraine in the summer of 2021. Is there an increase in prices in dollars? I'm talking prostitute, alcohol and strip club prices.

    5) My last question: Is there any European country you would recommend that is the same price as Ukraine in terms of prostitute prices and strip club expenses?

    Thank you all.

  11. #2022

    Mcdonald's

    I noticed that Mcdonalds will soon reopen in Ukraine, they've been closed throughout the war, however, they've continued to pay their employees, very admirable. Maybe Mcdonalds knows something like Russia is finished and will soon collapse.

  12. #2021
    Quote Originally Posted by HenriDufresne  [View Original Post]
    I am in touch with several escorts from Ukraine.
    Many are taking a break. Hookers have family to worry about too.

  13. #2020
    Quote Originally Posted by HenriDufresne  [View Original Post]
    I am in touch with several escorts from Ukraine.

    Some of them are now in Turkey and they are active. So, I think that if you visit a Turkey brothel, you will find many Ukrainian escorts there.

    Some of them are in Poland, but it looks like it does not work so well to be an escort in Poland.

    Strangely enough, I don't know any Ukrainian pros who moved to Germany or Austria.
    Poland (not only in Warsaw), Spain (Murcia is popular), Montenegro. Is what my contacts tell me. And of course Dubai and Antalaya.

  14. #2019

    Where did the Ukrainian escorts go because of the war?

    I am in touch with several escorts from Ukraine.

    Some of them are now in Turkey and they are active. So, I think that if you visit a Turkey brothel, you will find many Ukrainian escorts there.

    Some of them are in Poland, but it looks like it does not work so well to be an escort in Poland.

    Strangely enough, I don't know any Ukrainian pros who moved to Germany or Austria.

  15. #2018

    It a Long way to go.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wanking  [View Original Post]
    Yeah guys

    The Ukraine lady in the article below didn't waste too much time in getting to know local men .

    https://www.corkbeo.ie/news/ukrainia...rking-23650449
    I wonder what made this UA Lady go all the way to Tipperary, pre arranged meets!

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mPLS5nNFWTU

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