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  1. #19404

    The streets of Kiev will turn into a magnificent garden.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargano19  [View Original Post]
    Awesome, I am going to Berlin for some work next month, maybe I'll take a detour to Kiev after.
    Yes. It will be a magnificent sight. A real feast for the eyes. The streets of Kiev will turn into a magnificent garden.
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  2. #19403
    Quote Originally Posted by PhotoSlider  [View Original Post]
    Two more weeks, maybe even less, and young girls in revealing outfits will be everywhere in Kiev!
    Awesome, I am going to Berlin for some work next month, maybe I'll take a detour to Kiev after.

  3. #19402
    Quote Originally Posted by Tomek123  [View Original Post]
    Can you describe your feelings and impressions of Western women in a little more detail and compare these women with Ukrainian ones? My experience of communication and sex with Western women (Western Europe and the USA) is very small. My friend lived for a while in the United States and said.

    That white American women did not impress him. They talk a lot. They constantly boast of their career successes. Education. Success in karate and aikido. And bla-bla-bla. It's just that our friend did not quite understand my term,submissive, I did not mean intimidation and mental slavery. I meant less arrogant behaviors. I meant less arrogant models of behavior of Ukrainian ladies. I did not mean that they are submissive. Of course this is not quite so. I meant that they are more submissive than western ladies from feminized countries. Rich countries.
    Tomek,

    I believe we are much closer in our appreciation of Ukrainian girls and rejection of American women than it seems on the surface.

    To reiterate, there is a huge difference between a young woman being feminist and feminine. My impression we all very much prefer the latter over former.

    Pure submissive is also possible in Ukraine, and enjoyable to a degree. I get tired of it quickly and switch to a different girl.

    Characterizing Western women, as you propose, is not really a subject matter for this Forum. Why should we? There are good women in US, just like in any large country, but they are practically impossible to find and meet. Hopefully we will not digress.

    What we need here is more field reports instead of building theories like I do. Two more weeks, maybe even less, and young girls in revealing outfits will be everywhere in Kiev!

  4. #19401
    Quote Originally Posted by Gargano19  [View Original Post]
    Agreed.

    From 'submissive' I didn't mean, she will do as you say. It's more like she is less 'arrogant'.

    Though I am not an expert on mongering in Kiev, and have visited Kiev and States for couple of weeks only, but I clearly enjoyed the company of Ukrainian girls more.

    Could be preference though.
    Glad we agree to a certain extent.

    I also like the word "accommodating". Nothing describes a nice Ukrainian girl better, when without any words she guesses her man's desires and takes her own pleasure in fulfilling those.

    Spectrum of attitudes is rather wide in both countries: Ukraine and US. Riina found an outlet with unspoiled fresh Ukrainian beauties in Chicago. But there are distinctive tendencies, and I myself, just as you said, "clearly enjoy the company of Ukrainian girls more".

  5. #19400

    I did not mean intimidation and mental slavery.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargano19  [View Original Post]
    Agreed.

    From 'submissive' I didn't mean, she will do as you say. It's more like she is less 'arrogant'.

    Though I am not an expert on mongering in Kiev, and have visited Kiev and States for couple of weeks only, but I clearly enjoyed the company of Ukrainian girls more.

    Could be preference though.
    Can you describe your feelings and impressions of Western women in a little more detail and compare these women with Ukrainian ones? My experience of communication and sex with Western women (Western Europe and the USA) is very small. My friend lived for a while in the United States and said.

    That white American women did not impress him. They talk a lot. They constantly boast of their career successes. Education. Success in karate and aikido. And bla-bla-bla. It's just that our friend did not quite understand my term,submissive, I did not mean intimidation and mental slavery. I meant less arrogant behaviors. I meant less arrogant models of behavior of Ukrainian ladies. I did not mean that they are submissive. Of course this is not quite so. I meant that they are more submissive than western ladies from feminized countries. Rich countries.

  6. #19399
    Quote Originally Posted by PhotoSlider  [View Original Post]
    Submissive Ukrainian girls? You are day-dreaming, guys!

    Yes, they exist, and with rare exceptions they want money for being submissive. Their submission is usually delivered in well measured, clock-watched chunks with price tag attached. Kiss on your cheek and she is out of the door. If you played your cards smart there will be pleasant aftertaste and sweet memories.

    Nothing against your preferences, but I value exactly the opposite in Ukrainian girls. For an hourly girl, or GIA-KEC employee, or a masseuse, or a lady working at haircut salon, or a student in a street, to be considered a candidate for LTR, she has to be strong and up to a degree self-sufficient. I am not talking about arrogant obnoxious sharks, far from that. I am talking about intelligent young ladies, capable of standing their ground in a deep conversation or even a civilized argument. Making love to those satisfies at a much higher level. A human being is respected, not a receptacle for sperm.

    Even poor Brazilian girls are proud and know how to say "no". Winning over their short attention span is major fun.

    Western women do not scare me, because I am not attracted to them and simply ignore, curtailing any chance for interaction.

    There is a huge difference between submissive and feminine. IMO the latter is the major distinction between Ukrainian and Western. Just like there is a distinction between being feminine and feminist.
    Agreed.

    From 'submissive' I didn't mean, she will do as you say. It's more like she is less 'arrogant'.

    Though I am not an expert on mongering in Kiev, and have visited Kiev and States for couple of weeks only, but I clearly enjoyed the company of Ukrainian girls more.

    Could be preference though.

  7. #19398
    Quote Originally Posted by Visal  [View Original Post]
    Ukraine has these slim girls every where. I do not know about babes from entire Slavic rejoin but Ukraine is disappointing in terms of boob size. I saw on internet that the biggest boobs are in USA...
    Breasts are made up of supportive tissue, milk glands and ducts, and fat, and proportions of how much of each contributing category is unique to every woman. Some have more supportive tissue than fat and vice-versa. If breasts contain a decent percentage amount of fat, then that woman could see a difference in the boob size while gaining or losing weight. Family history, genetics certainly plays a role.

    USA women on average have very poor eating habits, many are overweight, hence larger size.

    South and Central America due to natural selection for women of larger breasts and cosmetic surgeries has a particular demographics in that respect. Girls in Rio de Janeiro are not exactly slim. Good size "bunda" is highly praised.

    Young Kiev ladies definitely watch what they eat. Slim, hence less fatty tissue, therefore smaller size. This is not to say that there aren't any country girls in Ukraine, that are more than well endowed. In December 2018 I have personally test driven one such 25 years old lady that arrived on the train 3 hours away from Kiev. She has DD size and is proud of it.

  8. #19397
    Quote Originally Posted by Visal  [View Original Post]
    Ukraine has these slim girls every where. I do not know about babes from entire Slavic rejoin but Ukraine is disappointing in terms of boob size. I saw on internet that the biggest boobs are in USA, then Canada. After that, Poland comes in the list, I do not know how it comes in the list but Poland is neighbor of Ukraine.
    1. Colombia.

    2. Mexico.

    3. Brazil.

  9. #19396
    Quote Originally Posted by Stevie69  [View Original Post]
    ...I am able to get great sex, mind-blowing sex, perhaps not from supermodels, but from very beautiful girls and women, and at a reasonable price. Of course, we all have minimum standards, but after those standards are met, the quality of the sex is more important than getting the best looking girl. The problem is that you never know how good the sex is going to be until after it is too late. Sex with a girl lies there and complains is not good, whether she is a supermodel or not.
    Immensely wise words!

    As subjective as it is, sex with the girl can also be rated on a multi-parameter scale. Jymondor had flawlessly structured reports in the past. I have my own system with no less than 12 performance indicators grading random visitors and GFs. I could introduce even more, but ultimately anywhere from 1 to 3 is good to start with. And then once in a while I have an experience with a girl, that Stevie describes here as "mind-blowing". For a certain reason those happen more frequently on the last night before the departure. Ukrainian ladies somehow feel it, even if I do not reveal. Then it takes a week or so to recover afterwards, and there's a strong urge to return to Kiev immediately.

    Certainly there are minimum standards, and when those are exceeded, no doubt the miracle of love-making is amplified multi-fold. And yet, to expand on what Stevie has said above, being simply an awesome looking is never enough for a true lady to make a long lasting impression. As has been quoted million times: "Personality goes a long way".

  10. #19395
    Quote Originally Posted by Gargano19  [View Original Post]
    It's not just, Nordic country and Ukraine. Any place where girls will be submissive, guys will feel better.
    Submissive Ukrainian girls? You are day-dreaming, guys!

    Yes, they exist, and with rare exceptions they want money for being submissive. Their submission is usually delivered in well measured, clock-watched chunks with price tag attached. Kiss on your cheek and she is out of the door. If you played your cards smart there will be pleasant aftertaste and sweet memories.

    Nothing against your preferences, but I value exactly the opposite in Ukrainian girls. For an hourly girl, or GIA-KEC employee, or a masseuse, or a lady working at haircut salon, or a student in a street, to be considered a candidate for LTR, she has to be strong and up to a degree self-sufficient. I am not talking about arrogant obnoxious sharks, far from that. I am talking about intelligent young ladies, capable of standing their ground in a deep conversation or even a civilized argument. Making love to those satisfies at a much higher level. A human being is respected, not a receptacle for sperm.

    Even poor Brazilian girls are proud and know how to say "no". Winning over their short attention span is major fun.

    Western women do not scare me, because I am not attracted to them and simply ignore, curtailing any chance for interaction.

    There is a huge difference between submissive and feminine. IMO the latter is the major distinction between Ukrainian and Western. Just like there is a distinction between being feminine and feminist.

  11. #19394
    Ukraine has these slim girls every where. I do not know about babes from entire Slavic rejoin but Ukraine is disappointing in terms of boob size. I saw on internet that the biggest boobs are in USA, then Canada. After that, Poland comes in the list, I do not know how it comes in the list but Poland is neighbor of Ukraine.

  12. #19393
    Quote Originally Posted by Tomek123  [View Original Post]
    Steve is right. In any case, you will get higher quality women than at home in Denmark or Norway or the USA. Europe and the USA are extremely pragmatic cultures. There is a very low status of a man in family and society. He has long been humiliated. Several generations of arrogant, arrogant, self-confident women have grown up. A man often does not feel the same feelings with a western woman as during sex with a Ukrainian lady. One my friend, a German, confessed to me about it. Tomek, the impression is that you fuck not a woman but something strong equal to you. . It's like having sex with a guy. When I see the ass of a young Ukrainian woman, I feel the strength of a male. I feel her humility. It excites. I feel like a man. Why so. The western woman has lost the ability to be submissive. She earns as a man. She can tell a man any insult. She is protected by law.

    And female submission is something that includes the mechanism of male arousal and makes an orgasm so strong. Because it is inherent in us from nature. And this is the main drama of the Western world. Western men travel to Mexico or Slavic countries not only because women are poor there. They go because the submissive Russian or Ukrainian white female ass and pink pussy give them a sense of sharpness and wild male power. Sense of complete domination. These women are weaker and more feminine than in the west.

    Some photos hot UA chicks.
    It's been a while that I have rrad such a spot-on post. Is there a Kiev Distinction thread?

    It's not just, Nordic country and Ukraine. Any place where girls will be submissive, guys will feel better.

  13. #19392
    Quote Originally Posted by Limarian  [View Original Post]
    Memoirs of an aged monger-the final day.

    Day 7.

    Final day if my adventure-I will go for a straight Thai massage at the Elephant, drink more water, go to the gym, go home and behave myself now I suppose-let's see.

    However, later, still unable to beat down the erection following the PT141 I finished off the last 50 MG of Viagra just in case I give way to an urge. And it did indeed come to pass and I rang Dreams. A lovely little 18 year old was round in twenty minutes and we struggled together to quieten the beast. The usual stumbling attempt to communicate, a nice classic massage after mopping up but no kissing or other personal intrusions. At least the morning wasn't wasted. Now home to sit in the car gazing at the flat sea and listening to the cries of the gulls, a tartan rug spread over my knees sipping a plastic mug of hot tomato soup from my trusty Thermos.
    Are you going to find a real publisher for your work of art? What a classy writing style!

  14. #19391
    Memoirs of an aged monger-the final day.

    Day 7.

    Final day if my adventure-I will go for a straight Thai massage at the Elephant, drink more water, go to the gym, go home and behave myself now I suppose-let's see.

    However, later, still unable to beat down the erection following the PT141 I finished off the last 50 MG of Viagra just in case I give way to an urge. And it did indeed come to pass and I rang Dreams. A lovely little 18 year old was round in twenty minutes and we struggled together to quieten the beast. The usual stumbling attempt to communicate, a nice classic massage after mopping up but no kissing or other personal intrusions. At least the morning wasn't wasted. Now home to sit in the car gazing at the flat sea and listening to the cries of the gulls, a tartan rug spread over my knees sipping a plastic mug of hot tomato soup from my trusty Thermos.

  15. #19390
    Day 6.

    Chill out day-went for a swim at Premier Palace but at $60 gave that a miss and settled for a coffee in the cigar lounge. Cold horrible rainy day. Complete contrast to when I arrived. I think my sex beast is slowly awakening after the pleasant despunking last night but I am working on keeping out of trouble for the moment. I will wait 'till I can't wait no more. Mocco for an evening of quality eating to make up for the rotton pizza last night which I consumed in it's vast garlicky entirety.

    Mocco isn't what it used to be-full of partying drunk thugs upstairs and screaming babies downstairs and me on my own like Mr Bean at his birthday party. Delicious fruit tea and a tough steak tenderloin-but London prices. Top quality embassy cocktail party class women here, immaculately dressed and completely unattainable-even the waitresses. What a country this could be if it ever gets itself sorted.

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