Top Damas
escort directory

Thread: Kiev

+ Add Report
Page 1 of 1463 1 2 3 4 5 11 51 101 501 1001 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 21931
This forum thread is moderated by Admin
  1. #21931
    Quote Originally Posted by Jahan  [View Original Post]
    In fact I was visiting Kiev since 80 ies, and now got old and as I see how things develop itself (due to political issues) then I read some reviews or reports here, although I was just last month there, I ask myself which place of Kiev these guys are reporting from? It is no GF services, or even BWC or if I ask for COB they ask me additional to the $100 so WTF? Their pimp is sitting in some of European countries and selling his own wife or daughter if he is lucky, the girls are working mostly private either in some live cam platforms or just using fake ID on social media and getting tax-free money, why shall stay in winter time in the cold outside waiting for an old dude like myself for paying them $100 and having demands? The reality is that either you see no girls in nightclubs or as I wrote here earlier, places like relax Kiev or Kiev massage are paying the ugly looking girls lots of money just to come on website's live cam for few hours and let customer book them for massage into luxury hotels (3 star plus) then pay them for 3000-8000 UAH for just 3 hours for service and as I asked if they make anal he answer: girls offer no sex service only HJ! I said in return, WTF is service then worth, just make me horney, so I can do myself? This is the reality of sex services in Kiev, Ukraine nowadays. Other website such Mamba or escort Kiev etc. All are not better earlier I just register, so I could write to the girls if she likes me we change phone number then I go to Kiev meet here, and we had fun I pay her or having anything funny hotel, bars, restaurant, and she was happy for the time I visit her, but now the F. admins push you to buy expensive membership and even if some girls (fake photos mostly) like you, I can not contact her or she in return, not before I buy her a gift 10-50 tokens means additional 40-$60 just to send her a fucking message and the admin try to stay safe in which religiously warn me "be aware even if you give the girl a gift it does not mean automatically she will respond" WTF do these fucking the. Heads think we are idiots? This is the big Nitesh in the market and anybody like to make his golden nose and catch a fish out of milky waters.
    Key word. Girls are being paid to go to Clubs, especially the High End Places. I watched this with my one eyes. This has very rarely been mentioned. How the guys that use to post daily in the past leave this facts out and other, makes me wonder.

    Now I here guys talk about scams as a normal event. It is not, and definitely not normal, but some guys in Ukraine think it is, "Okay".

    The only way to be successful in Kiev is the Ground Game and good luck with that. Now if you work there and have local contacts, then it is different story.

  2. #21930

    Kiev. Past and Now

    Dear fellow Hunters,

    First of all I would like to thank Jimbo5 for his excellent report. Very helpful indeed shedding the light on the actual situation.

    Me personally, I have been to Kiev many times, started visits probably 8 years ago. Before Covid I went every second month.

    I had good and bad experiences in Kiev (met cute girls and had great sex, girls came and used fake photos, wasted my time.)

    Bottom line: I haven't been back to Kiev since Covid and was longing to go back badly. Feel the city vibe, see my favourite places (Bars, Restaurants, Strip clubs.).

    Luckily I still have some contacts and hope they will still provide the the known services.

    Like everything and everywhere in the world, Prices are not what they used to be. So why should the GFE in Kiev still cost the same as it did 15-20 years ago?

    Why should the people in Ukraine accept to be stuck on their status quo and not try to improve their quality of life?

    It's just how the world turns.

    I was in Dubai last week and many beautiful girls from all over the world go there:

    1) Expo.

    2) Weather.

    3) Money (1 h is easily $ 200-300).

    In Germany, if you want a true GFE, your best chance IMHO is Escort Service where girls charge 200-300 EUR / hour.

    Sure, you can find girls for 130-150/ hour in a brothel or club, but bear in mind you're just one of the guys that day / week. I wouldn't expect a true GFE from them.

    In summary: I am looking forward to my trip to Kiev because I missed it. I am ready to accept the changes that have become the normality and I am not going just for the hobby, but also to experience the city.

    And if you don't, you are free to choose to go somewhere else. To treasure memories of the past is good, but we all need to realize and accept the facts of what's happening today.

    I'll be in Kiev in the last week of Nov. Will report afterwards.

    If someone wants to meet up for a drink or hunting, just get in touch.

  3. #21929

    Finally some words of truth.

    Quote Originally Posted by DramaFree11  [View Original Post]
    Mister,

    You and I are living in the future. Some other guys are portraying a Kiev that does not exist. Sorry, it just does not. There are girls, but most are very young and have little to no interest in older Foreign Guys.

    To travel long distances to not have girlfriend experience makes no sense.

    You are correct, there is zero nightlife. I remember most nights, except for Friday, the city would be empty at 10 pm. Even Friday nights, the clubs would be horrible. I remember many nights were there would be a ratio of 15 guys to one girl. Those are impossible odds.

    Sumner is a little different, but many leave the city for the beaches and villages. Sorry, Guys claiming see. Club is option are wrong. If you do not believe, go check it out, you will be really disappointed.

    Again, the guys that post now, do a great job of describing the real Kiev. The truth is slowly coming out about Ukraine.

    Girls, yes. Very average and not cheap. Girlfriend experience does not exist now. Zero nightlife, and that is being kind. Scams everywhere.
    In fact I was visiting Kiev since 80 ies, and now got old and as I see how things develop itself (due to political issues) then I read some reviews or reports here, although I was just last month there, I ask myself which place of Kiev these guys are reporting from? It is no GF services, or even BWC or if I ask for COB they ask me additional to the $100 so WTF? Their pimp is sitting in some of European countries and selling his own wife or daughter if he is lucky, the girls are working mostly private either in some live cam platforms or just using fake ID on social media and getting tax-free money, why shall stay in winter time in the cold outside waiting for an old dude like myself for paying them $100 and having demands? The reality is that either you see no girls in nightclubs or as I wrote here earlier, places like relax Kiev or Kiev massage are paying the ugly looking girls lots of money just to come on website's live cam for few hours and let customer book them for massage into luxury hotels (3 star plus) then pay them for 3000-8000 UAH for just 3 hours for service and as I asked if they make anal he answer: girls offer no sex service only HJ! I said in return, WTF is service then worth, just make me horney, so I can do myself? This is the reality of sex services in Kiev, Ukraine nowadays. Other website such Mamba or escort Kiev etc. All are not better earlier I just register, so I could write to the girls if she likes me we change phone number then I go to Kiev meet here, and we had fun I pay her or having anything funny hotel, bars, restaurant, and she was happy for the time I visit her, but now the F. admins push you to buy expensive membership and even if some girls (fake photos mostly) like you, I can not contact her or she in return, not before I buy her a gift 10-50 tokens means additional 40-$60 just to send her a fucking message and the admin try to stay safe in which religiously warn me "be aware even if you give the girl a gift it does not mean automatically she will respond" WTF do these fucking the. Heads think we are idiots? This is the big Nitesh in the market and anybody like to make his golden nose and catch a fish out of milky waters.

  4. #21928
    Quote Originally Posted by Misterxxx  [View Original Post]
    Not to be forgotten: The basic price of these professional hookers only includes the pure act today. Blowing on with a condom. Sex with a condom. Each additional service is charged additionally. Kissing +1000 UAH, licking +1000 UAH, blowing without a condom +1500 UAH. Cumshot in the mouth and face +2000 UAH. No joke. I have often received such a price list from Viber, Telegram and Wup.

    "That" is not the Kiev that everyone raved about years ago. And what you are describing is not "the" Kiev that I know from before. If you're from a country where hookers cost $ 500 an hour. Or where there are no hookers at all, then I agree with you. Then Kiev appears like paradise on earth. But $ 200 for 2 hours with a "5"? And not even girlfriend sex? No man has to travel to Kiev to do this. You can find it everywhere in Europe.
    Now that is a real report right there. From what I saw few months back in Kiev most working girls offer only basic service and there are no options for extras- at least that's what I got after ringing 25+ bordellos, brothels, salons and the likes. This is disappointing. You can make dummy account on telegram and hide your number and contact as many salons and you can verify that. As Ukraine nationals got visa free access to EU many Kiev ladies / salons moved their operations to other EU countries that was not possible before. But in my unbiased opinion if you have some cash to burn there are some really talented 'devushkas' in Ukraine and if you are long term visitor or rich guy this can work out for you bearing in mind if you can handle scam ladies.

    P.S.- I was in touch with 2 scam girls previously mentioned by member here that operate out of the scam restaurant in Pechersk district. Watch out guys! Thanks for the heads up dude.

  5. #21927
    Quote Originally Posted by Misterxxx  [View Original Post]
    But Kiev and the Ukraine live from exactly this 10-20 year old myth. The girlfriend sex. The (in reality nonexistent) surplus of women. All beautiful, cheap and willing.

    If this were not the case, Kiev would have long been on the list of "bad" cities like Riga, Tallin or Vilnius.

    The myth of Kiev is not made up of greedy girls. Girls to trade with. Filing every dollar. Like in the bazaar. And who want extra money for every little extra.
    Mister,

    You and I are living in the future. Some of the other guys are portraying a Kiev that does not exist. Sorry it just does not. There are girls, but most are very young and have little to no interest in older Foreign Guys.

    Too travel long distances to not have girlfriend experience makes no sense.

    You are correct there is zero nightlife. I remember most nights, with the exception of Friday the city would be empty at 10 pm. Even Friday nights the clubs would be horrible. I remember many nights were there would be a ratio of 15 guys to one girl. Those are impossible odds.

    Sumner is a little different, but many leave the city for the beaches and villages. Sorry, Guys claiming see. Club is option are wrong. If you do not believe go check it out, you will be really disappointed.

    Again, the guys that post now, do a great job of describing the real Kiev. The truth is slowly coming out about Ukraine.

    Girls, yes. Very average and not cheap. Girlfriend experience does not exist now. Zero nightlife and that is being kind. Scams everywhere.

  6. #21926
    Quote Originally Posted by PhotoSlider  [View Original Post]
    The best part about report by Jimbo5 is the fact that he didn't do it for his ego, or to compare his Kiev success to somebody else's, - especially not 10-20 years ago. Instead he provided the best practice guide to succeed today.
    But Kiev and the Ukraine live from exactly this 10-20 year old myth. The girlfriend sex. The (in reality nonexistent) surplus of women. All beautiful, cheap and willing.

    If this were not the case, Kiev would have long been on the list of "bad" cities like Riga, Tallin or Vilnius.

    The myth of Kiev is not made up of greedy girls. Girls to trade with. Filing every dollar. Like in the bazaar. And who want extra money for every little extra.

  7. #21925

    Another October Trip

    I'm back in Kyiv for a couple weeks. If anyone is in town and wants to join me on the hunt or just for a beer please PM.

  8. #21924
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo5  [View Original Post]
    ...Quick comment up front though. To all the posters giving a glum view of Kyiv. This was not my experience. Not only a great city, but also a lot of great girls looking to meet up. You just got to put in the legwork to get there. You are not going to just walk up to a brothel without some preparation...
    The best part about report by Jimbo5 is the fact that he didn't do it for his ego, or to compare his Kiev success to somebody else's, - especially not 10-20 years ago. Instead he provided the best practice guide to succeed today.

    The most useful report in a few months. I would even say since the pandemy changed the world, and the way girls of Kiev were forced to operate in new reality. And please don't tell me "Nobody cares about COVID in Kiev!" The change is obvious and it is not coincidental, but some things stayed the same. Beautiful young Ukrainian females keep selling their treasures.

    Jimbo5, thank you so much for explaining how find goodies of great quality for a fair price.

  9. #21923
    Quote Originally Posted by Misterxxx  [View Original Post]
    Before, you could go to a party in Kiev any day of the week. Disco every evening. And willing girls in every disco. Free or for little money. As a foreigner, you got into every club. There weren't any problems.
    I could deal with a difficult hooker scene, but this is basically why I never returned to Kiev.

  10. #21922
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo5  [View Original Post]
    Been home a few weeks now after a 2 week working trip to Kyiv (my 2nd visit there) - thanks to everyone before me on the forum as the information, and debate here has been very useful. I wanted to share my experiences.

    I'll post this in a few parts. This one is a run through of things I learnt, mainly using Mamba. I'm no expert. Unlike several on this thread. But I've picked a few things up I think would be useful for others.

    Next will be how I got on with Apartments and lastly a review of the girls I met.

    Quick comment up front though. To all the posters giving a glum view of Kyiv. This was not my experience. Not only a great city, but also a lot of great girls looking to meet up. You just got to put in the legwork to get there. You are not going to just walkup to a brothel without some preparation...
    I think that nobody said in the forum that there are no more hookers in Kiev. You got that wrong. But the glory days of Kiev are definitely over. Of course, as a newcomer, you can't see that. But if you come to Kiev for 10 years, 20 years or more, the differences from before are clear. Not just in terms of prices.

    Before, you could go to a party in Kiev any day of the week. Disco every evening. And willing girls in every disco. Free or for little money. As a foreigner, you got into every club. There weren't any problems.

    There's no party anywhere during the week today. The good locations for the weekend have become few. Many locations only let familiar faces in. As a foreigner, you can usually not get into the top clubs. You need good friends who live in Kiev and have been known there for a long time.

    When I read that you received offers for 5000 UAh (almost $ 200). Then only for two hours and without extras, then for most people in this world there is no reason to go to Kiev for sex. For this money you can find women in every city in Europe. In the same class as in Kiev.

    Many years ago, Kiev was known for girlfriend sex. You may have paid, but you didn't need to negotiate extras. 9 out of 10 girls fucked without a condom. What you call extras today was always included and completely normal. Mamba was also full of amateur girls. Not professionals.

    What you describe and found on Mamba are professional hookers. Or brothels. That's the problem. There are now tons of brothel advertisements. Hiding behind some fake photos. The demands are excessive. And the few amateurs on Mamba are not as beautiful as they were in the old days. Quantity down. Quality down. Prices up. Extreme. Because even girls with a 5 on the 10th scale have their noses way up. And describe themselves as a top shot.

    Such price lists with extras are real disruptive factors. If you don't agree everything beforehand and suddenly want to cum in your mouth during sex, how do you do that. ? I also had a girl who said 10 seconds before the final shot: "That costs 1000 UAH extra". And she wanted me to jump up 10 seconds before orgasm, get money out of my suitcase and pay for CIM.

    Not to be forgotten: The basic price of these professional hookers only includes the pure act today. Blowing on with a condom. Sex with a condom. Each additional service is charged additionally. Kissing +1000 UAH, licking +1000 UAH, blowing without a condom +1500 UAH. Cumshot in the mouth and face +2000 UAH. No joke. I have often received such a price list from Viber, Telegram and Wup.

    "That" is not the Kiev that everyone raved about years ago. And what you are describing is not "the" Kiev that I know from before. If you're from a country where hookers cost $ 500 an hour. Or where there are no hookers at all, then I agree with you. Then Kiev appears like paradise on earth. But $ 200 for 2 hours with a "5"? And not even girlfriend sex? No man has to travel to Kiev to do this. You can find it everywhere in Europe.

  11. #21921
    Quote Originally Posted by YummyPL  [View Original Post]
    Exceptional first post! Very practical information that is relevant to both new visitors and those with experience. I will try to comment on some of your points later, but I wanted to be the first to say thank you and welcome to the world of ISG posting. We look forward to your continued contributions.
    Hey man!

    Great move submitting for report of distinction. We didn't have one in two years, and Jimbo5 provided excellent methodology!

    What a gem indeed. None of that "Kiev is dead" naysayer bullshit. Instead he gives detailed, honest, and optimistic guide, ready to use by anybody. What to avoid, how to improve the chances, and literally what to tell the girls. Nobody thought about giving those examples of dialogs. Brilliant idea.

    First report, and immediately scores so high! Hail the master instructor!

  12. #21920
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo5  [View Original Post]
    Been home a few weeks now after a 2 week working trip to Kyiv (my 2nd visit there) - thanks to everyone before me on the forum as the information, and debate here has been very useful. I wanted to share my experiences.

    Don't listen to the naysayers on this forum. I had no problems finding several operating, and had some great experiences. And next trip (Nov hopefully) I'm going to take this route even more I think, some really good looking girls available, and doesn't need as much effort upfront to get results.
    Good first report and almost most of it is true. The point of contention was not that good / average ladies are available for 100 $ or not for basic service but the fact that previous frequent travellers to Kiev have to pay NOW higher amount for this service which if I'm not mistaken was available for lower rates couple of years back. Most working ladies refuse or charge a lot for owo, DFK and any other extra services you might desire. Although dating and other platforms like mamba, tinder, badoo and what not are totally different ball games if you can separate the wheat from the chaff!

  13. #21919
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo5  [View Original Post]
    Been home a few weeks now after a 2 week working trip to Kyiv (my 2nd visit there) - thanks to everyone before me on the forum as the information, and debate here has been very useful. I wanted to share my experiences.
    Exceptional first post! Very practical information that is relevant to both new visitors and those with experience. I will try to comment on some of your points later, but I wanted to be the first to say thank you and welcome to the world of ISG posting. We look forward to your continued contributions.

  14. #21918
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo5  [View Original Post]
    Been home a few weeks now after a 2 week working trip to Kyiv (my 2nd visit there) - thanks to everyone before me on the forum as the information, and debate here has been very useful. I wanted to share my experiences.

    I'll post this in a few parts. This one is a run through of things I learnt, mainly using Mamba. I'm no expert. Unlike several on this thread. But I've picked a few things up I think would be useful for others.

    Next will be how I got on with Apartments and lastly a review of the girls I met.

    Quick comment up front though. To all the posters giving a glum view of Kyiv. This was not my experience. Not only a great city, but also a lot of great girls looking to meet up. You just got to put in the legwork to get there. You are not going to just walkup to a brothel without some preparation..
    Great post and very believable! Good job.

  15. #21917

    Admire your tenacity

    Wow, this is great info. I tried Mamba once before my first trip but not this hard. Dating apps didn't exist when I was dating so I'm sure there's a learning curve I never fully grasped. I decided getting overcharged at the strip clubs was a lot less work and now that I look at it I'm only paying a small premium over your experience if at all. I latched on to one girl with whom I have really good chemistry. Costs me 8 k all night but I heard the price went up to 9 k in the last couple months. If you're paying 4800 for 2 hrs with exactly what / who you want we're practically paying the same price. I'm no good for two straight hours, three pops in an all night encounter is the absolute max these days. Two pops for me with your 4800 girl would cost me 9600 plus whatever awkwardness there is between romps.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo5  [View Original Post]
    Been home a few weeks now after a 2 week working trip to Kyiv (my 2nd visit there) - thanks to everyone before me on the forum as the information, and debate here has been very useful. I wanted to share my experiences.

    I'll post this in a few parts. This one is a run through of things I learnt, mainly using Mamba. I'm no expert. Unlike several on this thread. But I've picked a few things up I think would be useful for others.

    Next will be how I got on with Apartments and lastly a review of the girls I met.

    Quick comment up front though. To all the posters giving a glum view of Kyiv. This was not my experience. Not only a great city, but also a lot of great girls looking to meet up. You just got to put in the legwork to get there. You are not going to just walkup to a brothel without some preparation..

Posting Limitations

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts


Page copy protected against web site content infringement by Copyscape