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  1. #21999
    Quote Originally Posted by Ringudor  [View Original Post]
    I'm looking now website from topless massage. Do you remember name of pretty one?
    Sorry can't remember. You can WhatsApp them but their pictures are nothing related to the girls available.

  2. #21998
    Quote Originally Posted by Senecio  [View Original Post]
    I went to topless massage. 4 girls came out, one really pretty face but no titties and three 6 / 7. Went for a pretty face short girl and got a very intense session. Went to an escort takeout today and finally got a good one.
    I'm looking now website from topless massage. Do you remember name of pretty one?

  3. #21997
    Quote Originally Posted by Ringudor  [View Original Post]
    I was to red light massage, madam a bit rude, talks in a typical Ukrainian (bad) way, I see 4 ladies, 3 of them really pretty (9 out of 10) the other one was a 6, I took that last one, because the hot ones had a terrible disgusting face, I really cannot understand that behavior, totally the opposite from south American women, who treat you as a friend of all the life from the first moment.

    Massage was not the best of my life, but ok, not bad at all.

    What massage place it was?
    I went to topless massage. 4 girls came out, one really pretty face but no titties and three 6 / 7. Went for a pretty face short girl and got a very intense session. Went to an escort takeout today and finally got a good one.

  4. #21996
    Yesterday was to mint nosorog, very good feeling there and funny time, Friday will try the stripclub nosorog from maksima krivonosa, if someone wants to join, just text me.

  5. #21995
    I was to red light massage, madam a bit rude, talks in a typical Ukrainian (bad) way, I see 4 ladies, 3 of them really pretty (9 out of 10) the other one was a 6, I took that last one, because the hot ones had a terrible disgusting face, I really cannot understand that behavior, totally the opposite from south American women, who treat you as a friend of all the life from the first moment.

    Massage was not the best of my life, but ok, not bad at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Senecio  [View Original Post]
    Yeah didn't go for a membership. Just went to a erotic massage it was great. Essentially mutual masturbation and had a fun 1.5 hours.

    I realized all relaxkiev agents are out call nowadays, which make sense because of the weather.
    What massage place it was?

  6. #21994
    Quote Originally Posted by Ringudor  [View Original Post]
    A pity, you cannot receive MP.
    Yeah didn't go for a membership. Just went to a erotic massage it was great. Essentially mutual masturbation and had a fun 1.5 hours.

    I realized all relaxkiev agents are out call nowadays, which make sense because of the weather.

  7. #21993
    Quote Originally Posted by Senecio  [View Original Post]
    I will be there tomorrow for a week. Happy to meet up.
    A pity, you cannot receive MP.

  8. #21992
    Quote Originally Posted by Ringudor  [View Original Post]
    Yesterday before going stripclubs, I was walking around arena and guy near darling told me to take a look, I was just to check. Just 2 girls, prize from 2500, they say in weekends about 10 girls.
    I will be there tomorrow for a week. Happy to meet up.

  9. #21991
    Quote Originally Posted by James006  [View Original Post]
    How is the new Darling?

    Few weeks ago I tried to $ invite girls from Penthouse, Princess and even Dolls to my hotel. Only few like to leave the club.
    Yesterday before going stripclubs, I was walking around arena and guy near darling told me to take a look, I was just to check. Just 2 girls, prize from 2500, they say in weekends about 10 girls.

  10. #21990
    Spent some time in strip clubs, first tootsie and then princess, both disappointing, private dances so boring, some girls don't allow to touch her breast and try to do minimum work.

    Soon will try erotic massage.

    PD, for some days in Kiev, if anybody wants to hang out, just MP.

  11. #21989

    Darling nightclub

    How is the new Darling?

    Few weeks ago I tried to $ invite girls from Penthouse, Princess and even Dolls to my hotel. Only few like to leave the club.

  12. #21988

    Excellent report

    Solid advice and great info. My thinking is the same as yours. Nothing like shopping in person if you're pressed for time and you want what you want and it costs what it costs. I'm on a diamond SA membership right now as an experiment to see if I can lay some groundwork beforehand and it's mostly garbage in Ukraine. There are girls who will reply but if they have professional photos I immediately block them and there are a lot. Turns out I'm having much better luck in very expensive my home city on a coast. The cream of the crop looks wise all snipe, they don't let people find them, they find you and the numbers they're asking for are nuts. Something about my profile keeps dragging them in and I can't figure out what it is. I was getting about 50 people a day for the first week it's slowed down a lot and I'm about to hide the account because it's a lot of work weeding through all the crap and I've met enough in person that I could have a rotating lineup of 2-3 and a bullpen of 3-5. I'm just not willing to pay that much to get my rocks off.

    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyNuts  [View Original Post]
    Made a 13 night visit to Kiev in late October. The game is not as good as it was the past two years. Darling club was my favorite place and this time it was closed. Also closed are many apartments that were operated by that same organization. As well as a couple other unaffiliated apartments. So the choices have been reduced and the prices have been increased. One year ago the most common ask was 2200/ hour and now it's 3000.

    Still I had an enjoyable trip with about 22 sessions over 18 different girls. My best girls came from a couple agents I've known for the last three years as they brought me to a couple very good apartments, one brand new agency I lucked into finding and a couple recs from fellow ISG members. But I had to pay more for all these sessions except for one girl I knew from last year. One apartment (#46 if you know the building) had girls asking 6000 or even 7000. I didn't see anything special in those girls justifying those crazy prices. The best girls for me were 3000/ hour no rush. In fact one agent followed up with me later and asked if I extended to two hours LOL. These girls were 19 to 21 with a clean cut college girl look. Not sure if it's college but they are doing something else during the week because the number of apartment girls seemed to double on the weekends. No apt girls gave BBBJ since I didn't pay for that. One did provide some free kissing on our second session. Mostly they stick to the rules based on what you pay.

    What made my trip still very enjoyable is that the good sessions were actually GREAT sessions. Unlike other places in the world I'm banging girls I can tell the Kyiv girls are pleasured by the sex much more than the others. I'm talking about toes curling, eyeballs rolling and cheeks turning bright red. I just don't see that so much in other countries..

  13. #21987
    Nice to see you had a successful trip! I agree that social media takes way too much time if it's used on the ground. It distracts one from the joy of the journey itself! Not knowing much about the scene, but I would suppose that the availability of girls is related to the schools being on. At summer, it might be different, since people report encounters with not so appealing girls? Or is it just the apartments and that the agencies are different? Anyhow, I'm in a bit of a doubt concerning the next summer. I didn't hang out at the main street at late night, so I don't have experience of encounters with girls hanging out there nor the representatives of agencies. If there would be a solid source for cute 'girl next door'-type of students at summer time in 3000 price category, that would be all good. But without it the trip will be only about eye candy.

    Maybe being able to speak Russia changes the game? Or has anyone without knowledge of Russian / Ukrainian language been able to hit it off well with agencies found on relaxkiev?

  14. #21986

    October 2021 trip report

    Made a 13 night visit to Kiev in late October. The game is not as good as it was the past two years. Darling club was my favorite place and this time it was closed. Also closed are many apartments that were operated by that same organization. As well as a couple other unaffiliated apartments. So the choices have been reduced and the prices have been increased. One year ago the most common ask was 2200/ hour and now it's 3000.

    Still I had an enjoyable trip with about 22 sessions over 18 different girls. My best girls came from a couple agents I've known for the last three years as they brought me to a couple very good apartments, one brand new agency I lucked into finding and a couple recs from fellow ISG members. But I had to pay more for all these sessions except for one girl I knew from last year. One apartment (#46 if you know the building) had girls asking 6000 or even 7000. I didn't see anything special in those girls justifying those crazy prices. The best girls for me were 3000/ hour no rush. In fact one agent followed up with me later and asked if I extended to two hours LOL. These girls were 19 to 21 with a clean cut college girl look. Not sure if it's college but they are doing something else during the week because the number of apartment girls seemed to double on the weekends. No apt girls gave BBBJ since I didn't pay for that. One did provide some free kissing on our second session. Mostly they stick to the rules based on what you pay.

    What made my trip still very enjoyable is that the good sessions were actually GREAT sessions. Unlike other places in the world I'm banging girls I can tell the Kyiv girls are pleasured by the sex much more than the others. I'm talking about toes curling, eyeballs rolling and cheeks turning bright red. I just don't see that so much in other countries.

    I visited Tootsie strip club four nights and was willing to pay the $300 take-out fee. Got to know the GM quite well and he helped me by putting the thinnest available girls (my preferred taste) together on one stage so I could compare. But I never found a strong 8. 5 to 9 that I was willing to pay $300. I did buy private dances from two girls and both told me they only work as dancers and wouldn't give me their telegram or whatsapp. So only some of the girls are available for take-out. Talk to the GM here I think his name is Misha and he has a resemblance to John boy Walton for those of you old enough to remember LOL.

    This trip I didn't use Seeking or Tinder or Instagram or Mamba or any other social media. My last trip I found it too time consuming to weed thru the agencies and scams. I know another poster has pretty good luck with Mamba but he has the time and patience to sort through all the BS on there.

    My advice to new guys on the hunt in Kyiv is to walk around outside Arena City after 9 or 10 PM. You should be able to find agents or they will find you and can lead you to apartments with girls. Check out Darling Club to see if it's anywhere near as good as it was before Covid. There are usually agents hanging out in front of Darling's entrance. You can also use https://relaxkiev.com/en/ to find the apartments and even find agencies without apartments. That's where I lucked into one good agency. I would whatsapp each number asking "please send pics of the girls available today" in Russian language. If one happens by chance to actually be an independent girl she will let you know that.

    Please post your stories, experiences and new findings after visiting Kyiv as we all try to help each other in this increasingly difficult hobby venue.

  15. #21985

    Thanks guys

    Thank you for the information regarding the current political situs.

    Girls I am contacting in Kiev appear to be just disinterested in war.

    How about the market? Are they going lower? I am targeting usually semi-pros from Mamba. Are they downplay or still high-nose?

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