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  1. #20014

    Kiev trip update

    Unfortunately my trip to Kiev was cut to only two nights due to work getting in the way. Since I only had two nights I decided to go with the more expensive but pretty reliable option instead of taking a risk at Rio or any of the other clubs. I ordered take out from KEC which has been reliable for me in the past. Mixed results this time. Report on each follows:

    Lizza: best looking girl on their website; she arrived to the hotel right on time; 1 PM. She was on a 2 hour discount so I went with the extra time. She looked amazing, arrived in a nice evening Dress, her English was excellent. Once the fun started she was very much GFE with excellent passionate kisses; superb deep throat; she got two full shots out of me and I was getting ready to put my clothes on when she said, oh no we still have 13 minutes! She did her best in those last 13 minutes but I was finished at that point. Lizza was probably one of my top 3 provider experiences.

    Emma: that evening I tried Emma, she was much more of a porn star like experience. I really enjoyed it, great body, very aggressive, and she wouldn't stop till she got two shots out of me. Very different experience than Lizza; would prefer to repeat with Lizza again.

    Sveta: this girl from an optics perspective was perfect; I mean her looks were flawless. Unfortunately her performance was less than spectacular. No passion, very clinical, limited kissing, almost fragile like. Such a shame because she is strikingly beautiful. Would not see her again.

    I had really wanted to check out the club scene but just didn't have time. I tried the other agency; relaxkiev.com without success. Every profile I tried ended up being unavailable and then they would try to sell me on another girl. I didn't want to take a chance on them. Next time I will try the club scene and the apartment scene around Arena City.

  2. #20013
    Quote Originally Posted by Riina  [View Original Post]
    No conclusion to your trip? Your initial enthusiasm for Kiev ending with your disappearance from the thread has painted a perfect picture of mongering in Ukraine.
    Why do you want him to fail so bad? Maybe he isn't posting because he is having fun. Some of you guys are just negative people.

  3. #20012
    Curious to know if Kiev has a Streetwalker scene anywhere around like the Kaiserstrasse in Berlin? I love cutting through most of the bullshit by snatching them off the street and getting what I want instantly without any kind of strip club / salon / privet / online searching shit. I've been tearing up the rough dirty streets of the US for years and am ready for a change with emphasis on White women.

  4. #20011
    Quote Originally Posted by SuperLove  [View Original Post]
    Dear monger bro,

    I have a plan B, may be fly them out of the country for a weekend. Success rate goes up since they are away from their homeland. What do you say. Honestly, these Ukrainian women are unbelievably gorgeous and there is no substitute. For me top 10 girls from various countries are.

    1. Ukraine.

    2. Ukraine.

    3. Ukraine..
    Why no Russian?

    Ukraine girls are beautiful in the street, but most of the hookers in Ukraine are Ordinary look or ugly.

  5. #20010

    PlanB

    Dear monger bro,

    I have a plan B, may be fly them out of the country for a weekend. Success rate goes up since they are away from their homeland. What do you say. Honestly, these Ukrainian women are unbelievably gorgeous and there is no substitute. For me top 10 girls from various countries are.

    1. Ukraine.

    2. Ukraine.

    3. Ukraine.

    4. Ukraine.

    5. Ukraine (that's how good I find them).

    6. Czech Republic.

    7. Latvia.

    8. Iran / Lebanon / Moroccan / Arabic countries.

    9. Poland.

    10. Spain.

    Pure on looks and sex appeal.

    What say.

    Quote Originally Posted by DramaFree11  [View Original Post]
    Great advice. Very easy for good looking girls to make money in Kiev without having sex. Always have your guard up in Kiev, Scams are every where. Finally the truth is slowly coming out about Kiev, just not the paradise everyone claims.

  6. #20009
    Quote Originally Posted by SloPhoto1990  [View Original Post]
    I see. So safety concerns about what is true or not.

    But me as a costumer, I guess it is safe to go visit girls for an hour or so or call them to come to your room? I mean safety tips on that topic.
    In the most general sense, statistically it is always safer to visit the girls at their place than when they come to visit you. If there were to be a negative interaction, the traveling person has less to loose than the dwelling person. Having said that, safety wise, I never had any safety concerns when the girls visited me in Kiev, dozens of times. I don't do drugs and I don't drink too much.

    Bottom line, personal safety is not a huge concern in Kiev. To put it in perspective, I ran into more thugs in mongering in London, LOS Angeles, Bucharest, Sofia and Istanbul than in Kiev.

  7. #20008
    Quote Originally Posted by SuperLove  [View Original Post]
    You have to check with others on the forum on that. All that I was trying to say was that Ukrainian girls are brought up in a different scenario. I mean life is tough in this country and making money is more difficult as compared to other countries. I have a few steady girls and they all tell me how difficult it is for them to survive and they all use their looks and sex to make ends meet. No one believes in hard work and therefore scams thrive. Its easy to dupe a foreigner when a real beauty comes into the picture. I therefore say just be extra cautious in handing out your hard earned money and you should know you are getting what was promised to you.
    Great advice. Very easy for good looking girls to make money in Kiev without having sex. Always have your guard up in Kiev, Scams are every where. Finally the truth is slowly coming out about Kiev, just not the paradise everyone claims.

  8. #20007

    Shawman

    Quote Originally Posted by Riina  [View Original Post]
    How long did it take in Kiev before you realized the scene was mostly leftovers?
    No conclusion to your trip? Your initial enthusiasm for Kiev ending with your disappearance from the thread has painted a perfect picture of mongering in Ukraine.

  9. #20006

    Hi SloPhoto1990

    You have to check with others on the forum on that. All that I was trying to say was that Ukrainian girls are brought up in a different scenario. I mean life is tough in this country and making money is more difficult as compared to other countries. I have a few steady girls and they all tell me how difficult it is for them to survive and they all use their looks and sex to make ends meet. No one believes in hard work and therefore scams thrive. Its easy to dupe a foreigner when a real beauty comes into the picture. I therefore say just be extra cautious in handing out your hard earned money and you should know you are getting what was promised to you.

    Quote Originally Posted by SloPhoto1990  [View Original Post]
    I see. So safety concerns about what is true or not.

    But me as a costumer, I guess it is safe to go visit girls for an hour or so or call them to come to your room? I mean safety tips on that topic.

  10. #20005
    Quote Originally Posted by SuperLove  [View Original Post]
    I tried posting 2 passport copies of the same girl with different names. Just wanted to show what these girls are up to and the extent to which they stretch themselves to make $$ But the site admin has deleted them and I have been warned rightly so.

    For me Ukrainian girls are extremely hot and beautiful and they know the entire world wants them and so they get away with anything and everything, they are extremely lazy and evade from doing any hard work.

    On the other hand Russian girls from the same beauty family a notch lower though but I find them hard working and less scrupulous and scammers. Be careful that's it.
    I see. So safety concerns about what is true or not.

    But me as a costumer, I guess it is safe to go visit girls for an hour or so or call them to come to your room? I mean safety tips on that topic.

  11. #20004
    Quote Originally Posted by Habeed  [View Original Post]
    So far I have found the "secret" apartment brothels are by far the best value. (short of setting up a long term relationship with an independent) There is no risk of the fatties, because you can see the girls in the line up (and just leave if none of them fit your taste, I have left quite a few lineups). The way to find them is to either PM me and I can give you the addresses, or just go to Arena city, and find Alexi or one of the other brothel touts. Super easy to find, literally just walk in there through the entry way and touts will ask if you want to see the girls.

    There is a brothel in arena city itself. It sucks, don't go there, but there's more apartments outside.
    You have turned off PMs, can't send.

  12. #20003
    Quote Originally Posted by Stevie69  [View Original Post]
    Who pays for those prices? Unsuspecting tourists that forgot how to think with the right head. You got severely scammed. Your 66000 UAH could have bought you 3 sessions with your flight attendant at "brothel number 4". Still, I would suggest to use semi-pros, girls whose regular job is something else. They are more appreciative of good sex and they know the value of money. I prefer it when I am the only person they have had sex that day. Of course, on never knows, but with pros, you definitely know that some guy was there as little as one hour ago.
    I didn't say I paid it! I spent 700 to get into Paradise Cabaret, 100 uah on a non alcoholic drink, and I then left. Stevie69, can you be more specific on how you found the short and long term pros? I have tried UkraineDate, and found it very difficult to actually coax any of the really young hot Kiev girls to respond to any of my messages. I also would prefer semi-pros for a similar reason (also better value and greater efficiency because they are collecting all of the money instead of the brothel taking 40% but I haven't been able to find any. I also get similarly ignored on Mamba.

    Maybe it's my photos or profile, maybe I just don't know what to message them, maybe you are using a different site. Would love it if you shared more details if you don't think it will mess up your own game.

  13. #20002
    Quote Originally Posted by IndusMint  [View Original Post]
    I wanted to contribute on PM but your inbox is full.
    Done bro cleared. Moscow another option too.

  14. #20001

    Kiev

    Quote Originally Posted by DrGut  [View Original Post]
    Hi guys,

    Planning to trip to Kiev with 4 of my guy friends for partying and mongering. Good I read this forum. It kinda looks dry? Is that true? Any other cities / countries you can recommend. Warsaw, Baku, tel Aviv?

    We are basically looking for chilling during the day (some adventure activities, nice lunches) and then partying at night at some clubs. Then hopefully getting some girls back to our apartment (paid of course) 3-4 of them and then having a small party and banging. If we can get some working girls at the clubs tom.

    Party with us it would be awesome and some good strip clubs but would be a bonus. We have to finalize in the next week. Your contributions will be very helpful. Cheers guy
    s thanks.
    I wanted to contribute on PM but your inbox is full.

  15. #20000
    PM me for this week. Is good to try wingman game.

    Quote Originally Posted by JustMe7  [View Original Post]
    Hi man,

    I'm going to be there this this week too. Was wondering if you are looking for a wing man.

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