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  1. #22269

    Post-war mongering in Ukraine vs Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by PedroMorales  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the link but not your comments. Full disclosure: I am the most anti cigarette poster on the site. It is a revolting addiction but an interesting one.

    When the Soviet Union imploded, Big Tobacco bought up the Soviet tobacco firm to remove the competition; much the same happened with Cola companies, cola being all sugar and marketing. Hitler's Nazis actually invented Fanta (the Fantastic Cola Company), as sugar and Coca Cola, the former sponsor of the Hitler Youth, was no longer available.

    Your idea that American, South African etc cigarettes are best is down to marketing "It's Toasted".

    Good on that British OAP to go to Kiev (non Nazi spelling) to get his rocks off. Not sure how he would get on if disputes arise.

    For anyone making a small fortune in such a corrupt and lawless country, begin with a big fortune. That way, you might have something left. Factor that in.
    The mongering environment in any country is determined mostly by economic factors. One thing that's likely to be true in post-war Ukraine is that there will be a shitload of money sloshing around as reconstruction funds pour into the country. That, and the fact that Ukrainian women will have more options for travel and relocation throughout Europe, raises the distinct possibility that low-cost mongering in Ukraine might be a thing of the past. This won't be evenly distributed, of course, as the bulk of the money will initially flow to, or through, areas like Kyiv, Lviv, and (if successfully liberated) Crimea.

    The situation in Russia will be vastly different as it's likely to be under sanctions (restricting inflows), reparations (increasing outflows), or a combination of both, for decades to come. Whether Putin lives, dies, stays in office, or gets removed, that will only affect things at the margin. In the big picture sense, Russia's economy will be a basket case for years to come. That means any woman who wasn't able to escape those circumstances may be forced to turn to prostitution to feed herself or her family. Unfortunately (for her), since there will be significantly less money sloshing around, mongering in Russia is likely to be dirt-cheap. If you go, bring plenty of cigarettes since they'll probably be worth more than the ruble.

  2. #22268

    Some beautiful girls are stilling using Mamba.

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterxxx  [View Original Post]
    It's not as easy as you think. I was only traveling in Lviv. I was advised not to go to Kyiv. Not because of the danger, but because of the many passport controls and still very limited options (compared to Lviv).

    VPN is of course possible. But Mamba also records the geo data. With my phone card from Poland, I was always located in Poland. With VPN from the USA I was in America for my Mamba account. This could only be changed to Ukraine as the location in the paid account. VPN is therefore not enough. The girls in Ukraine, in addition to VPN, also need to set up a paid account. But probably only professionals will pay. No amateurs.

    Mamba can also still be reached via other domains in Ukraine. Without a VPN. With identical database. But no longer via the Mamba main page. I hope, however, that this will not remain the case forever. Because many mamba girls are otherwise lost.
    I sent several messages to some heart-breaking beautiful girls (Yulia 19, Kiss 21, 22 etc.) in Kyiv in the last 24 hours, although they didn't reply a word, but I can see they've read it. Like with WhatsApp, there are two blue ticks. Because they are so beautiful that I don't think they know VPN or Geo data stuff at all. I highly doubt that Mamba is completely forbidden in Kyiv. I hope someone in Kyiv can confirm my guess.

  3. #22267

    Cigarettes and Stiffies

    Quote Originally Posted by WyattEarp  [View Original Post]
    It definitely sounds a whole better than being gang raped by Russian soldiers. Not to mention, having to be one of millions rushing to flea to the United States / British side before the arrival of the Russian Mongol army.

    An American cigarette butt was likely better than a fresh Soviet crap cigarette.
    Thanks for the link but not your comments. Full disclosure: I am the most anti cigarette poster on the site. It is a revolting addiction but an interesting one.

    When the Soviet Union imploded, Big Tobacco bought up the Soviet tobacco firm to remove the competition; much the same happened with Cola companies, cola being all sugar and marketing. Hitler's Nazis actually invented Fanta (the Fantastic Cola Company), as sugar and Coca Cola, the former sponsor of the Hitler Youth, was no longer available.

    Your idea that American, South African etc cigarettes are best is down to marketing "It's Toasted".

    Good on that British OAP to go to Kiev (non Nazi spelling) to get his rocks off. Not sure how he would get on if disputes arise.

    For anyone making a small fortune in such a corrupt and lawless country, begin with a big fortune. That way, you might have something left. Factor that in.

  4. #22266
    Quote Originally Posted by YummyPL  [View Original Post]
    Most of the young Ukrainian girls I know already use VPNs. They need it to access many Russian language websites.
    It's not as easy as you think. I was only traveling in Lviv. I was advised not to go to Kyiv. Not because of the danger, but because of the many passport controls and still very limited options (compared to Lviv).

    VPN is of course possible. But Mamba also records the geo data. With my phone card from Poland, I was always located in Poland. With VPN from the USA I was in America for my Mamba account. This could only be changed to Ukraine as the location in the paid account. VPN is therefore not enough. The girls in Ukraine, in addition to VPN, also need to set up a paid account. But probably only professionals will pay. No amateurs.

    Mamba can also still be reached via other domains in Ukraine. Without a VPN. With identical database. But no longer via the Mamba main page. I hope, however, that this will not remain the case forever. Because many mamba girls are otherwise lost.

  5. #22265
    Quote Originally Posted by Ringudor  [View Original Post]
    Ukrainian girls will not use VPN, then its the same.
    Most of the young Ukrainian girls I know already use VPNs. They need it to access many Russian language websites.

  6. #22264

    Thread name change to Kyiv

    Think it is time to change thread name here to accepted international spelling. Kiev has some bad connotations. Maybe regulars can weigh in and ask Admin to do this.

  7. #22263

    Postcard from Kyiv.

    Just read the first Report on everyday Life in Kyiv from a reporter on the ground there.

    https://www.standard.co.uk/insider/k...a-b998810.html

    "Postcard from Kyiv: tulips blooming, wine bars re-opening and people starting to return.

    After months of misery, Ukraine's capital is discovering its 'new normal."

    American Choppers Bar seems to be the Place to see and be seen at present.

    "There is a trickle of tourists. At the train station this week I met Matthew Sample a 71-year-old English retiree from Hungerford who had just arrived on a train from Poland and was visiting Kyiv for fun.

    "I guess I'm a war tourist" he told me with a laugh. "But I don't want to go anywhere where there are no good bars open. " Sounds like he's looking for more than a Stiff Drink!

    The US Embassy is due to open end of the Month, The British Embassy is now open.

  8. #22262

    Business opportunity: Ukrainian clones of popular Russian sites like Mamba, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by HessenStud  [View Original Post]
    If that's true, it will be a disaster! With Tinder you cannot contact the others for free, you need a match, you know the chance if your look is not outstanding, right? Several years ago, the VK was also forbidden in Ukraine, it could be acceptable that now they want to do the same to Mamba.
    I'm not a tech person, so the details are outside my wheelhouse, but from a business perspective it seems to me that there are some juicy opportunities for talented entrepreneurs. Full disclosure: I have no idea if Mamba is Russian-owned, so any reference to that site is based on what others have posted about it.

    To continue: I don't know how many Russian websites that were formerly used widely in Ukraine are currently banned, but any which are will likely continue to be banned for a long time. Even after the war ends, the relationship between the two countries will be in the toilet, likely for decades. That means any good or service from Russia that was formerly popular in Ukraine will be ripe for replacement by a non-Russian alternative. Even if that new good or service is more expensive, or not as convenient, or even if it's a total clone, it will have a competitive advantage in the Ukrainian marketplace simply by virtue of the fact that it's not from Russia.

    Also, I'm guessing Ukrainian authorities won't give two shits about any Russian IP, patent, or copyright protection. That means (IMO) someone in Ukraine could blatantly copy the code, design, and other elements of Russian software and sites and use them in Ukraine without having to worry. In fact, the same might prove true in other European countries that are pissed at Russia, like Poland and the Baltics.

    And if the Russian company makes a fuss, and sends some kind of a "cease and desist" notice, so what? Give them a Snake Island "go fuck yourself" salute, or just say it's part of the reparations that are due. The only thing I'd pay attention to is if the govt of your home country (Ukr, Pol, etc.) raised some type of issue. Otherwise, I don't think anyone is going to lift a finger to protect the "rights" of Russian companies.

    If I was younger, and more technically inclined, I might be tempted to dip a toe in such a pond. For those of you with the appropriate skillset and knowledge of the local market, this could be a gold mine. As always, do your own homework and proceed at your own risk. And, for anyone who does take the plunge, Good Luck!

  9. #22261
    Quote Originally Posted by HulaHoops  [View Original Post]
    A VPN will allow you to access mamba.
    Ukrainian girls will not use VPN, then its the same.

  10. #22260

    To access mamba use a VPN

    A VPN will allow you to access mamba.

  11. #22259

    Mamba is still the best until now!

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterxxx  [View Original Post]
    I'm back in Ukraine now. I don't know about it elsewhere, but Mamba (a Russian site anyway) is definitely blocked here. Via the local landline provider, via my Lifecell card, but also via the free internet in the restaurant. Of course you can try any tricks and get to the site. But this blocking will probably mean the end for Mamba in Ukraine. Less new girls and clients.
    If that's true, it will be a disaster! With Tinder you cannot contact the others for free, you need a match, you know the chance if your look is not outstanding, right? Several years ago, the VK was also forbidden in Ukraine, it could be acceptable that now they want to do the same to Mamba.

  12. #22258
    Quote Originally Posted by Misterxxx  [View Original Post]
    I'm back in Ukraine now. I don't know about it elsewhere, but Mamba (a Russian site anyway) is definitely blocked here. Via the local landline provider, via my Lifecell card, but also via the free internet in the restaurant. Of course you can try any tricks and get to the site. But this blocking will probably mean the end for Mamba in Ukraine. Less new girls and clients.
    They will move to tinder.

    I'm curious about situation there now, you feel safe? What city you are? How behave local people towards you? Women open to meet you?

  13. #22257
    I'm back in Ukraine now. I don't know about it elsewhere, but Mamba (a Russian site anyway) is definitely blocked here. Via the local landline provider, via my Lifecell card, but also via the free internet in the restaurant. Of course you can try any tricks and get to the site. But this blocking will probably mean the end for Mamba in Ukraine. Less new girls and clients.

  14. #22256

    Cigarette Butts 45 years later.

    LOL "After World War Two, Germans used to line up outside cinemas to grab the cigarette butts from Allied soldiers who tossed them away".

    45 Years later inThe Soviet Union, "Desperate Soviet smokers are resorting to extremes, puffing dried tea leaves and buying tobacco dust used as insecticide. And a new, stomach-turning trade has blossomed: Jars of used cigarette butts are on sale at peasant markets. Travelers returning from the Crimea say an eight-ounce glass of butts costs one ruble (about $1.60)."

    https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-...195-story.html#text=The%20 Soviet%20 Union%20 has%2077,in%20 buses%2 C%20 elevators%20 and%20 restaurants.

  15. #22255
    Quote Originally Posted by PedroMorales  [View Original Post]
    A Japanese banker gives an account of being in Germany after World War One, women having sex for pennies. After World War Two, Germans used to line up outside cinemas to grab the cigarette butts from Allied soldiers who tossed them away. Any idea where are the war brides the GIs got came from?
    It definitely sounds a whole better than being gang raped by Russian soldiers. Not to mention, having to be one of millions rushing to flea to the United States / British side before the arrival of the Russian Mongol army.

    An American cigarette butt was likely better than a fresh Soviet crap cigarette.

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