Angola

[Neddy69]

Revolut offers 726 Kwanza to the Euro as of today. What does it mean? The black market rate is gone. No need for that. As it is the official rate now. With COVID and all the rest of rubbish travel restrictions gone time to dust off my Portuguese and Kizomba skills. Plus. TAAG offers good deals from Lisbon to Luanda. Ticks all of my boxes. The only drawback might be winter approaching. Travel planning shifting in high gear. Muito bem.

Neddy.

[ChocolateHuntr]

Yes, that's why I visited this forum. I paid 30 k for my first encounter, and felt it. Because everything is so expensive in this city, I thought it might be the norm. Reading how you fellas are paying less than 10 k is surprising, but good news. All the ladies on Tinder start out at 50 k when I ask 'how much for an hour'. I'll be offering 10 k to my next date from here out. I watched how rich dopes drove prices up in Thailand the PI, and I wouldn't want to be that guy.

The minimum monthly wage in Angola is 30 k. Keep that in mind. So 8 k to a broke university student is still more money than working people make in a whole week. It's also very helpful to speak Portuguese. These ladies are fun, talkative, and love to flirt.

[Sensi]

If you negotiated and you end up paying same as in Europe for pussy then you are doing something wrong. Even the fought striking you is clear evidence.

Yes, that's why I visited this forum. I paid 30 k for my first encounter, and felt it. Because everything is so expensive in this city, I thought it might be the norm. Reading how you fellas are paying less than 10 k is surprising, but good news. All the ladies on Tinder start out at 50 k when I ask 'how much for an hour'. I'll be offering 10 k to my next date from here out. I watched how rich dopes drove prices up in Thailand the PI, and I wouldn't want to be that guy.

[Neddy69]

After a couple of weeks, I'm disovering the local economy. Considering the crazy high tourist prices like $20 USD for a hamburger and fries and another $20 to take a taxi across town, it's necessary to learn how the Luandans handle these daily expenses.

For transport, they take share taxis, which are large blue and white vans that go all over the city. Each ride is 250 kwanza (60 cents USD). There are also ride-sharing apps like Heetch and Yango. I find rides on Yango to be about half the price of Heetch.

As for dining out, there are numerous affordable restaurants. The problem is they don't typically have signs or advertising. You just have to know where to go. So I ask people on the street where the locals eat. I'm currently on Ilha de Luanda and have found several restaurants next to the Naval Base which offer lunch / dinner for 1,000 kwanza. A meal here includes rice, beans, fish or chicken, and salad. You can add another 200 kwanza for a soda or bottle of water.

As for the ladies, I continue to have success with Tinder. It's currently the cold season (high temp of 23 during the day) so most are inside and on their phones. Not a lot of people on the beaches because the water is freezing cold, and the night scene is quiet. So online apps like Tinder are full of bored, beautiful ladies. I schedule their visits 24 hours in advance, and they come to my hotel. I pay all transport costs and give 6,000 - 8,000 kwanza when they leave to help with groceries.

I'm curious to know what Luanda is like during their summer. I like what I see and can imagine this place really comes alive during the warmer months.

Good update. Good stuff. If I recall the blue and white Vans are called Toca Tocas. Keep it coming. Check out prices of cheap guest houses. They have to exist. No local pays crazy prices for accommodation. Ilha do Cabo is of course tourist area. If there's any except Portuguese. I heard french are investing heavy these days. Good Tipp with yango.

Keep it coming.

Neddy.

[ChocolateHuntr]

After a couple of weeks, I'm disovering the local economy. Considering the crazy high tourist prices like $20 USD for a hamburger and fries and another $20 to take a taxi across town, it's necessary to learn how the Luandans handle these daily expenses.

For transport, they take share taxis, which are large blue and white vans that go all over the city. Each ride is 250 kwanza (60 cents USD). There are also ride-sharing apps like Heetch and Yango. I find rides on Yango to be about half the price of Heetch.

As for dining out, there are numerous affordable restaurants. The problem is they don't typically have signs or advertising. You just have to know where to go. So I ask people on the street where the locals eat. I'm currently on Ilha de Luanda and have found several restaurants next to the Naval Base which offer lunch / dinner for 1,000 kwanza. A meal here includes rice, beans, fish or chicken, and salad. You can add another 200 kwanza for a soda or bottle of water.

As for the ladies, I continue to have success with Tinder. It's currently the cold season (high temp of 23 during the day) so most are inside and on their phones. Not a lot of people on the beaches because the water is freezing cold, and the night scene is quiet. So online apps like Tinder are full of bored, beautiful ladies. I schedule their visits 24 hours in advance, and they come to my hotel. I pay all transport costs and give 6,000 - 8,000 kwanza when they leave to help with groceries.

I'm curious to know what Luanda is like during their summer. I like what I see and can imagine this place really comes alive during the warmer months.

[ChocolateHuntr]

It's been a minute since my last post and I'm happy to contribute once again. Pussy is on tap in Luanda. Get yourself a paid Tinder account, translator app, hotel room, and it's heyday. They come to you. Plan a day ahead. Keep it like an appointment. Meet in your lobby for a drink and go from there. I negotiated everything through What's App prior to arrival and have been having wonderful dates. But I think I'm over-paying. I'm kicking out 30 K Kwanza for the hour. Any thoughts?

I've been in Luanda for a week now, and I agree 100%. Tinder is so effective that I haven't had time to respond to all of the matches. And the ladies I do chat with are friendly, cooperative, and very interested to connect in person.

I prefer a girlfriend experience, so I treat each encounter as a date. We'll meet, go eat, talk for a while, then return to my hotel to listen to music, watch Netflix, and close the deal. Some ladies stay for a few hours, and others want to stay all night. As for prices, I offer 8,000 kwanza when they leave to help with transport and groceries. So far, no issues.

As for prices, there are lots of Luandan women on Tinder, so I have only used it thus far. Universities are on holiday for about 3 months. Lots of bored students at home looking for fun. I typically give 8,000 kwanza (~$16 USD) to help with transport and groceries. Have received no complaints so far.

[Tottem]

It's been a minute since my last post and I'm happy to contribute once again. Pussy is on tap in Luanda. Get yourself a paid Tinder account, translator app, hotel room, and it's heyday. They come to you. Plan a day ahead. Keep it like an appointment. Meet in your lobby for a drink and go from there. I negotiated everything through What's App prior to arrival and have been having wonderful dates. But I think I'm over-paying. I'm kicking out 30 K Kwanza for the hour. Any thoughts?

If you negotiated and you end up paying same as in Europe for pussy then you are doing something wrong. Even the fought striking you is clear evidence.

[Sensi]

It's been a minute since my last post and I'm happy to contribute once again. Pussy is on tap in Luanda. Get yourself a paid Tinder account, translator app, hotel room, and it's heyday. They come to you. Plan a day ahead. Keep it like an appointment. Meet in your lobby for a drink and go from there. I negotiated everything through What's App prior to arrival and have been having wonderful dates. But I think I'm over-paying. I'm kicking out 30 K Kwanza for the hour. Any thoughts?

[ChocolateHuntr]

What is your impression so far if you compare to your visit in Mombasa? Performance in bed etc? Maybe your sample size is not enough yet to make an statement.

Tottom, after my first week, I'll compare the ladies of Luanda physically with Kenyan ladies of the Luo and Luya ethnic groups. Tall, slim, athletic, and very dark skin. Performance in both countries is great, so it comes down to other factors like travel costs, ease of visiting, preferred language (Portuguese vs. English), etc.

I'll also add that I really like Luanda as a city. Unlike many other African capitals, Luanda doesn't feel overcrowded. It's not overrun with motorbikes, the traffic laws are somewhat obeyed, and this city has amazing beaches along with countless plazas, public spaces, and boardwalks which locals and tourists can enjoy.

The main downside for me is the higher prices for transport, food, housing, etc. But this could be due to my ignorance of how things can work here. For example, if I decided to stay for some months, then I could discover how to live within the local economy and reduce these costs.

[Neddy69]

Neddy, that website has old info. You can even see the date stamp is 25th of July. Today is only the 12th of July, so that website hasn't been updated for almost a year.

I'm now in Luanda, and I visited several street exchanges (see my Initial Impressions post). I even showed that website to the ladies exchanging dollars on the street. All of them told me the black-market rate has fallen due to government crackdowns (as Taurus1 mentioned below). The street rate is now 490 kwanza to 1 USD.



Tottem, yes I learned Portuguese while traveling in Brazil. Speaking the language helps a lot.

As for prices, there are lots of Luandan women on Tinder, so I have only used it thus far. Universities are on holiday for about 3 months. Lots of bored students at home looking for fun. I typically give 8,000 kwanza (~$16 USD) to help with transport and groceries. Have received no complaints so far.



Yes, I spoke to numerous ladies who exchange currency in the street, and their business has suffered greatly. Just last year, they offered almost double the official rate, but now the premium is only about 15%.

Didn't look. So good times are over. Angola flush with cash again due to high Oil prices. What a pity.

Mwalimu.

Enjoy. Good to hear pussy prices are quite normal.

[Tottem]

What is your impression so far if you compare to your visit in Mombasa? Performance in bed etc? Maybe your sample size is not enough yet to make an statement.

[ChocolateHuntr]

If one would RTFF I republish herewith the official black market rate.

http://www.kinguilahoje.com/

At present 1 $ is 710 KWZ 1 is 810 KWZ.

Neddy, that website has old info. You can even see the date stamp is 25th of July. Today is only the 12th of July, so that website hasn't been updated for almost a year.

I'm now in Luanda, and I visited several street exchanges (see my Initial Impressions post). I even showed that website to the ladies exchanging dollars on the street. All of them told me the black-market rate has fallen due to government crackdowns (as Taurus1 mentioned below). The street rate is now 490 kwanza to 1 USD.

Do you speak Portuguese? How much are the ladies asking for?

Tottem, yes I learned Portuguese while traveling in Brazil. Speaking the language helps a lot.

As for prices, there are lots of Luandan women on Tinder, so I have only used it thus far. Universities are on holiday for about 3 months. Lots of bored students at home looking for fun. I typically give 8,000 kwanza (~$16 USD) to help with transport and groceries. Have received no complaints so far.

A year ago the rate was upto 800 Kwanza. Somehow they found means to crack down on the black market rate. No wonder living costs are expensive.

Yes, I spoke to numerous ladies who exchange currency in the street, and their business has suffered greatly. Just last year, they offered almost double the official rate, but now the premium is only about 15%.

[Taurus1]

A year ago the rate was upto 800 Kwanza. Somehow they found means to crack down on the black market rate. No wonder living costs are expensive.

[ChocolateHuntr]

Observations after a couple of days:

• The typical lady I see is dark-skin, slim, medium height. Most also wear their natural hair, nails, eyelashes, and skin. Not so many hair weaves, wigs, heavy makeup, or skin bleaching. I personally prefer these natural women.

• English speakers are few, so Portuguese is very useful. I learned the language while in Brazil. And even thought the dialect is different, Angolans have no problem understanding. They watch a lot of Brazilian movies, television, and news, so they are accustomed to it.

• Tinder is all you need for online. Set your location to Luanda, and be prepared.

• If you prefer to hunt in person, then stroll to Avenida 4 de Fevereiro. It's located downtown and features a mall called Shopping Fortaleza as well as Marginal da Baia which is a seaside boardwalk full of people walking, jogging, eating, vending, and sitting on numerous public benches. For daytime pickup, this place is a goldmine.

• As of mid-July 2022, the parallel (black market) rate for exchanging US Dollars is 490 kwanza. This is about 15% better than the official bank rate of 423. Also interesting to note that women hold the cash and exchange your currency in the streets here. First time I've ever seen that.

• Luanda is more expensive than other African cities I've visited. Costs of food, transport, hotels, entertainment are noticeably high here. And even though it's possible to exchange dollars / euros on the street for a better rate (see above), this still doesn't offset the elevated prices.

• Ilha de Cabo, an island just off the coast of downtown Luanda, has about 5 kilometers of beautiful, pristine beaches. This morning I walked the island's beachfront avenue to explore hotel options, and I counted 10 city workers whose job it is to clean the beaches daily. Not something I often see on this continent.

[Tottem]

I spent the first 3 months of this year in Rio de Janeiro, had a great time. If you like Afro-Brasileiras, then you will LOVE the Angolanas. I can confirm that the Luanda ladies you see on Tinder are all over this city.

They are fun, friendly, and with amazing bodies. I'm also happy to see many ladies wearing natural hair styles such as afros, twists, and braids.

As for the currency, I have only withdrawn from ATMs at this point. But I have heard that USD exchange on the black market for over 700 kwanza (versus only 430 kwanza at the bank rate). I'll ask around and let you know.

Do you speak Portuguese? How much are the ladies asking for?