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  1. #1311

    Q-bar

    Quote Originally Posted by Bashaa  [View Original Post]
    I never advice people here to stay at Q Bar.

    What I see here is there some people who are working at Q Bar and they are always here to convince people to stay there.

    In reality in Dar Oyster-bay area is not a place where there is much actions!.
    I am the one who or one of those who always advice people to go to Q-bar, could be that Elephant Beer read my report when choosing hotel. Or at least I mention Q-bar always in my reports because I always use it myself. It is cheapest hotel in Oyster bay area, I have not find cheaper one although once I tried to look something else. There are always young western travelers, young girls and young men, for this same price reason. I always try to find cheapest girl friendly hotel wherever I go. And there are girls always in "Q-bar"-hotel bar, that is second reason I like place.

    No, I don't work in Q-bar, neither have I anything to do with hotel. Except I tried to get one Q-bar's pretty cleaning lady for a short time relationship, and once one receptionist, both attempts failed.

    In my opinion all the action is in the Oyster Bay area, there were those some bars which all the girls visited, different places were popular in different days. These are places where musungus go, so girls go after them. So most expensive girls are in this area, I guess that is correct. I don't want to go to places where common people go, I like places where slim girls are looking for musungus (me). Like for example Q-bar on Thursdays, that is second reason I favour Q-bar.

    Let's say that all the action that I am interested of can be found in Oyster Bay area, so that is enough for me.

    Although I have spend some long periods in Dar (not in last year), you can consider me still as a tourist, I don't have any deep knowledge of area.

  2. #1310

    Arusha

    Will be spending a few weeks working in Arusha.

    Does anybody have any advice / tips on the action there and also a reasonable hotel to stay near the centre.

    Thanks.

    Banter.

  3. #1309
    Quote Originally Posted by ElephantBeer  [View Original Post]
    Elephant beer. Um, there are elephants in a place called 'Asia' too. Beer Chang comes to mind. It wasn't an African (Tusker) reference. If you're in Africa and facing north. Just turn your head to the right. And start swimming, you'll find it.

    Admittedly, I do have a sensitive sense-of-smell. I have, ever since I developed migraines in my 30's. It also equates to taste as well. For instance if I kiss a girls skin around her nipples I will (sometimes) almost want to gag from the sweat taste of sweat glands etc.

    I will say that in Asia and South America I have (almost never?) run into BO and I've been to plenty of low end brothels where soap ruled over deodorant. At least 'upstairs' - have run into some bad odors downstairs several times from poor hygiene, one in twenty?

    In Africa, I was just overwhelmed by the body odor. I've since read that Africans have larger sweat glands and release more (or a different kind of odor). Maybe I'm hypersensitive to it. I just couldn't get close to them, and I wanted to.

    For instance, sitting at a beach bar and a girl approaches, sweat beads all over her forehead and upper lip, she put out her arm and rests it against the bar and this stale rank odor emanates from her, the only thing that comes to mind is cat litter that's been used for a week and not emptied. Or sitting in a club in Nairobi and a girl strikes up conversation and 'wants to sit down' - fine. We start talking and again she just smells musty, sweaty, weedy. I can't even imagine what it would be like to unwrap one of these girls at home.

    In retrospect, I had several girls in Ethiopia that had almost no smell at all. It was primarily just the Kenya and Tanzanian girls that reeked. Which is partly why I was so shocked when I arrived in these countries.

    Because I enjoy brothel 'slums' does not mean I enjoy BO. Because you enjoy inexpensive hamburgers do you want them to the beef to be made of cow's assholes? I guess you're doing a passive aggressive insult, but I don't really get it. I'm just reporting on my experience.

    One of the biggest memories I brought back from Africa was just the overwhelming BO. Even from well dressed people in the airport or at restaurants. Most did not have it, but the ones that did. Had it damn bad. To the point I'd just leave the area or room.
    We get it dude Africans stink to you. I don't want to get into a flame war about shit that doesn't matter let's just say that everyone has a smell Asians certainly do as do Europeans and South Americas usually based on their diet.

    Have fun.

    Trip.

  4. #1308
    Quote Originally Posted by TripleDarknes  [View Original Post]
    Based on Elephant Beer's posts (a curious name for someone who hates Africa) he seems like a hardcore Adventure monger who gets off on fucking chicks off the beaten track. In that case yes going to a slum to get cut rate prices on a "non pro" or going to a village and fucking a chief's daughter yes you might get one who didn't apply deodorant, but going to some upmarket bar or club and meeting stinky girls would get her run out of the place by management.

    Trip.
    Elephant beer. Um, there are elephants in a place called 'Asia' too. Beer Chang comes to mind. It wasn't an African (Tusker) reference. If you're in Africa and facing north. Just turn your head to the right. And start swimming, you'll find it.

    Admittedly, I do have a sensitive sense-of-smell. I have, ever since I developed migraines in my 30's. It also equates to taste as well. For instance if I kiss a girls skin around her nipples I will (sometimes) almost want to gag from the sweat taste of sweat glands etc.

    I will say that in Asia and South America I have (almost never?) run into BO and I've been to plenty of low end brothels where soap ruled over deodorant. At least 'upstairs' - have run into some bad odors downstairs several times from poor hygiene, one in twenty?

    In Africa, I was just overwhelmed by the body odor. I've since read that Africans have larger sweat glands and release more (or a different kind of odor). Maybe I'm hypersensitive to it. I just couldn't get close to them, and I wanted to.

    For instance, sitting at a beach bar and a girl approaches, sweat beads all over her forehead and upper lip, she put out her arm and rests it against the bar and this stale rank odor emanates from her, the only thing that comes to mind is cat litter that's been used for a week and not emptied. Or sitting in a club in Nairobi and a girl strikes up conversation and 'wants to sit down' - fine. We start talking and again she just smells musty, sweaty, weedy. I can't even imagine what it would be like to unwrap one of these girls at home.

    In retrospect, I had several girls in Ethiopia that had almost no smell at all. It was primarily just the Kenya and Tanzanian girls that reeked. Which is partly why I was so shocked when I arrived in these countries.

    Because I enjoy brothel 'slums' does not mean I enjoy BO. Because you enjoy inexpensive hamburgers do you want them to the beef to be made of cow's assholes? I guess you're doing a passive aggressive insult, but I don't really get it. I'm just reporting on my experience.

    One of the biggest memories I brought back from Africa was just the overwhelming BO. Even from well dressed people in the airport or at restaurants. Most did not have it, but the ones that did. Had it damn bad. To the point I'd just leave the area or room.

  5. #1307

    The Body Odor issue

    Quote Originally Posted by ElephantBeer  [View Original Post]
    It's not that I needed someone to show me around, indeed. I found the girls. I just needed someone else's dick. In order to shag them. They smelled rank and just weren't attractive.
    Having spent sometime in Africa here's my take on it. Poor to working class people skimp on Deodorant mainly because if you work hard outside in Africa all day your deodorant will likely fail anyway. But middle class Africans, and anything Semi to hardcore that's caters to mzungus? They will defenitely wear deodorant. Frankly I never came across a girl except the hardest of the hardcore that caters solely to local working class African men have any B. O. Women are still women all over the world and more concerned about hygene and beauty than men so getting on a Dalla-Dalla on evening rush hour yes you might smell underarms, but being anyplace that a mzungu is likely to be in Africa he will meet women who smell way better than him.

    Based on Elephant Beer's posts (a curious name for someone who hates Africa) he seems like a hardcore Adventure monger who gets off on fucking chicks off the beaten track. In that case yes going to a slum to get cut rate prices on a "non pro" or going to a village and fucking a chief's daughter yes you might get one who didn't apply deodorant, but going to some upmarket bar or club and meeting stinky girls would get her run out of the place by management.

    Trip.

  6. #1306
    Quote Originally Posted by Bashaa  [View Original Post]
    I never advice people here to stay at Q Bar.

    What I see here is there some people who are working at Q Bar and they are always here to convince people to stay there.

    In reality in Dar Oyster-bay area is not a place where there is much actions!.
    To someone who has knowledge of TZ or speaks Swahili, Oyster bay is way overpriced especially the MP's in the area and the bar girls in Elements but for a newbie with a Southeast Asian mentality of being needed to pointed to a brothel that's where the Q comes in, There's usually someone acceptable there day or night. But yeah I wouodn't stay in that overpriced for what you get place either.

    I'm not one the TZ board much but I don't see many alternatives posted and for me getting pussy in Nai and Mombasa is easier to get than Dar for street pick ups from non pros.

    Maybe it's just me.

    Trip.

  7. #1305
    Quote Originally Posted by Hamodaaso1180  [View Original Post]
    Prices of 50 K still there for st but not for top quality, from badoo there are a chance to get really low cost, any high cost in badoo just pass and go to nightclubs where you usually may find good collections, each area have some nightclubs known as a WGs base.

    Ramadan almost have no effect on the actions.
    Cheers bud,

    Will give these places ago along with Badoo, is Dar like Mombasa were you can pick up woman when shopping restaurants on the beach ect. Got an apartment beside coco beach which I was hoping would be good for some day time action. Will probably take Neddy advice and try club Ambiance, as well.

  8. #1304
    Prices of 50 K still there for st but not for top quality, from badoo there are a chance to get really low cost, any high cost in badoo just pass and go to nightclubs where you usually may find good collections, each area have some nightclubs known as a WGs base.

    Ramadan almost have no effect on the actions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfy81  [View Original Post]
    Have prices increased for st and LT in dar es salaam, reading though the posts since 2016 most bm were paying around 40 k-50 k posts from 2018 everyone seems to be paying around $60-100 Mark.

    Staying there for a month from the 7/5/2019, which is also Ramadan, does this have any effect on hooking up.

    Messaging a few on Badoo at the moment is tinder also widely used out there

  9. #1303

    Prices

    Have prices increased for st and LT in dar es salaam, reading though the posts since 2016 most bm were paying around 40 k-50 k posts from 2018 everyone seems to be paying around $60-100 Mark.

    Staying there for a month from the 7/5/2019, which is also Ramadan, does this have any effect on hooking up.

    Messaging a few on Badoo at the moment is tinder also widely used out there

  10. #1302

    Unfortunate Episode

    Quote Originally Posted by ElephantBeer  [View Original Post]
    It's not that I needed someone to show me around, indeed. I found the girls. I just needed someone else's dick. In order to shag them. They smelled rank and just weren't attractive.
    I think it's best you try to forget everything about your unfortunate episode in Africa and try your luck anywhere else in the world where "girls don't smell bad".

    Yes, we all understand now that you hate that continent.

  11. #1301
    Quote Originally Posted by ElephantBeer  [View Original Post]
    So. No shagging in Dar es Salaam either, but can't say I feel I missed anything as was totally turned off by the girls. Made Ethiopia look like a mongers paradise compared to these two places. Ethiopia for being a dusty (endless) slum at least had doable (non stinking) girls in the plentiful massage parlors.
    I never advice people here to stay at Q Bar.

    What I see here is there some people who are working at Q Bar and they are always here to convince people to stay there.

    In reality in Dar Oyster-bay area is not a place where there is much actions!.

  12. #1300
    Quote Originally Posted by Vanilla4  [View Original Post]
    I think you nailed it. Sorry that you did not enjoy, you should have had someone show you around. Hope you ll find your pleasure elsewhere.
    It's not that I needed someone to show me around, indeed. I found the girls. I just needed someone else's dick. In order to shag them. They smelled rank and just weren't attractive.

  13. #1299
    Quote Originally Posted by Leblon  [View Original Post]
    If I go to Dar es Salaam, I have always booked myself to Q-bar. It is cheapest (at least it was) in Ouster Bay area, where most of the action for musungu mongerers takes place. And also bar has girls, looking for customers. Just try to book room from upper floors, so the music of the bar is not so loud. There are lot young economic travelers in the Q-bar hotel, not just sex tourist like me, we may be minority of the hotel customers. Some pretty tourist girls often, you see them in breakfast.

    At least before, day to go to Q-bar bar or night club was Thursday, then there were lot of people, live band and people came to dance, and lot of foreigners, meaning also lot of girls. What I like in Q-bar especially in Thursday was that girls knew that there are musungus looking for girl, so tall slim girl came there, just a kind of girl that I also like, I am also musungu.

    Other days Q-bar was not so full, but there seems to be always some girl available, often same girls.

    On Friday, everybody went to Trinity club, which is in Oyster Bay area also, almost walking distance from Q-bar, but not on night time. Everybody seemed to be there, after midnight or something, also all the working girls.

    One place that seemed to be lively in the earlier part of the evenings was George and Dragons. When you go there, don't make that stupid mistake that everybody going there first time seems to do, me included. First part of G&the is a Irish pub, quite boring. There is a door that looks like toilet, and from there you go to second part, that is quite nice and big club, and nice atmosphere. There are girls there also, but it is not so much girl place as other places mentioned here.

    Then, if you want to have afternoon company, go to Coco beach. There are lot of girls available there, with cheap prize. Later you will see same girls in all Oyster Bay clubs, with more expensive prize. Even if you don't want to afternoon girl, Coco beach is a place to go for beach and beer, lot of people there especially on weekend. I have never gone swimming there. It is walking distance from Q-bar, in daytime.

    All this information is one and half year old. But I chatted with one local girl some time ago, she told me that Trinity is at least popular still, and George and Dragon.

    Before in downtown there was quite a good club, forgot the name, it was in one tower, in roof, everybody went there on Saturdays. Could it have been Moonlight or something? Anyway, when I visited Dar one and half year ago, it was still open but totally empty. That just shows how places are very popular some time, and then some other place takes all the customers. I think in this case it was these Elements, and Next Door. Maybe also Samaki Samaki? Those clubs are so near Q-bar that you can walk there even by night. Those are places to go on Saturday, or at least they were.
    The Q-bar is a nexus of the Red light district that caters to westerners. If you're in Dar for a short visit and can't speak Swahili or English go there. There's massage parlors all over the place, There's Q-bar itself there's the corner by the Q-bar where you get similar quality of chicks for cheaper there's Elements and the other club right across the street and there's Coco beach.

    There's Local oriented spots in Sinza and elsewhere but for the Muzungu this is the place to be.

  14. #1298
    Quote Originally Posted by ElephantBeer  [View Original Post]
    Africa just wasn't for me.
    I think you nailed it. Sorry that you did not enjoy, you should have had someone show you around. Hope you ll find your pleasure elsewhere.

  15. #1297

    Africa just wasn't for me.

    Zanzibar was a cool town, at least architecturally. Easy to walk around and snap photos. Not too many problems with locals, a few that prey on tourists but harmless. This is the most touristed city I visited in Africa with white folks bumbling around everywhere. (I guess including me). Plenty of good hotels, a few upscale bars and some decent food places. I stayed in Old Town exclusively except for one longer walk way down past the the ferry / pier where things got more local. Quickly. Easy to get lost down alleys and a few moments of panic as if you were in Nairobi your ass would quickly be handed to you if you were caught alone in the maze of streets. But no problem here.

    I didn't see any working girls, but then I wasn't looking. I didn't go looking for any girl bars either. But, it's a nice town to take a break for a few days from the rest of Africa and pretend you're not in it.

    Dar es Salaam was a dump. Literally.

    I unfortunately took advice from board to stay where 'the action is' - at QBar. The rooms are sort of elongated concrete cubes, with plyboard wardrobe, cheap furniture, and just felt like a third-world like a prison cell. The tiny air conditioner took a full 5 HR to cool this room, but thankfully once on. It doesn't get shut off when you leave the room. There was absolutely NO wifi in my room (less than 0. 3 consistently). Loading a web page was nearly impossible, and Skype just a dream. I asked for help from reception dude but didn't seem to give a toss.

    At night the girls come into the club downstairs, but not till later - 11:30 pm or 12 am. I went down two nights and had some (inexpensive) beer and looked. But each time a girl would approach me their BO was just so strong I couldn't take sitting next to them. This was a consistent problem for me in every African country I visited (except Ethiopia). The girls (and people in general) just smelled so rank. It was impossible to monger. Which was weird, as sometimes it was very upscale families or couples dressed nicely that smelled the worst.

    There were a couple of cute girls at Qbar, but they were all thick-bodies, sweaty, or just sleazy looking. I didn't see any cute 'girl-next-door' types. And again, I only had a few quick conversations as they just smelled so bad. I can't believe you guys bang these girls. But, YMMV.

    Just left QBar on the third day and went to Double Tree and had excellent experience with good pool, clean. Comfortable rooms. Went to George and Dragon but was closed on a Monday night.

    Went to 'the mall' at The Slip? LOL. Not exactly a mall like you would think of it, some souvenir shops, a grocery store etc. Coco Beach was just an average local beach. Didn't see much else that would bring me back.

    So. No shagging in Dar es Salaam either, but can't say I feel I missed anything as was totally turned off by the girls. Made Ethiopia look like a mongers paradise compared to these two places. Ethiopia for being a dusty (endless) slum at least had doable (non stinking) girls in the plentiful massage parlors.

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