South Africa

[Thelonoius]

Tell us more about your actual adventures. They must be special.

We're a bit off topic, so I suggest continuing the discussion in the dedicated forums if you wish.

Everyone can feel things differently and of course has the right to disagree. Personally, I like slim and slender girls. I am not too much of a fan of big asses. These destinations are in my eyes good choices in terms of good value for money and availability of girls corresponding to my tastes.

Personally, Accra is one of my favorite destinations in Africa in terms of P4P. There is a wide choice of girls in the popular places and near the beaches. The Ghanaian girls are tall and friendly, rather cheap and speak English quite well. There are a lot of Nigerian girls too and it is rather these girls that I avoid because they are really money minded. I spent a great week with a girl named Anabelle. Nice GFE experience. Nothing compared to SEA of course but if you're into black girls, it's the place to be.

Zanzibar, yes it's a Muslim island but LOL they really have a funny interpretation of Islam when it comes to alcohol consumption. On the beaches you can find real stunners in bikini outfits. The girls are slim, perfectly shaped and very attractive by my standards. It's really easy to start conversation with a funny girl and party later.

As for Ethiopia, its reputation is well established. Ethiopian women are among the most beautiful women in Africa. You have to be very vigilant about scams like everywhere in Africa. It's true that it's maybe a bit more difficult destination because the girls are a bit more shy towards foreigners (I'm talking about the non-pro scene). Cut off clit, really? Personally, I've never seen one.

I have never been to Rwanda so I can't say anything about it. As for Uganda, yes the people are very welcoming but in terms of sex, I didn't find anything special there.

[Amadeuss]

Ghana, Tanzania (Zanzibar) or Ethiopia are good alternative to Kenya.

Tell us more about your actual adventures. They must be special.

Ethiopia -- cold blooded women with a cut off clit and some star fish high price pro's in the lux hotels.

Zanzibar -- a Muslim island. You may be able to find some unsatisfied Russian ladies because their man is drunk all the while. But local P4P?

Ghana -- full of expensive cockblockers and scammers.

Tanzania -- too many well paid USAID workers rise up the prices. Girls became gold diggers.

If you would have said Uganda and Ruanda -- then I would agree.

So, tell us your stories in the countries you propose.

[Big Zozo Intl]

Returning for a 4th time early next yr.

[Thelonoius]

Ghana, Tanzania (Zanzibar) or Ethiopia are good alternative to Kenya.

Which country you offer me to go to have the same experience in Kenya? In Africa of course.

[King Amir]

Never been to Uganda, but from what I've heard, Kenya has everything Uganda has to offer and more. It's just that Uganda is cheaper.

But about Jo'burg, it's not to say you won't have a good time. The girls there are very down to have fun but they definitely can be more money hungry. Nairobi babes are more into having fun.

Thank you for the answer.

Which country you offer me to go to have the same experience in Kenya? In Africa of course.

[Zakmo]

I understand.

What do you say about uganda vs Kenya? Kenya is better? If you have the experience of course.

Never been to Uganda, but from what I've heard, Kenya has everything Uganda has to offer and more. It's just that Uganda is cheaper.

But about Jo'burg, it's not to say you won't have a good time. The girls there are very down to have fun but they definitely can be more money hungry. Nairobi babes are more into having fun.

[King Amir]

Not even close to the same experience in Nairobi. You'll come to Jozi and leave disappointed. Girls here are kinda like sharks LOL. That treatment you get in Nairobi ain't the same in Johannesburg. You'll have to come out your pockets pretty heavy. Joburg has more ballers that spend very heavily. Jo'burg is more international so can't really flex being a "foreigner".

Just stick to Nairobi to be 1000% with you.

I understand.

What do you say about uganda vs Kenya? Kenya is better? If you have the experience of course.

[Zakmo]

I went two times to Nairobi. It was an amazing feeling, I had many girls for free, and I only needed to pay for their transportation and food.

Now I am looking for other destinations like Johannesburg.

On Tinder, there are a lot of girls who I match with and they look good and I like them.

The question for the experts here, is Johannesburg is good for passport bros or do you think I will not get the same experience I got in Nairobi?

Not even close to the same experience in Nairobi. You'll come to Jozi and leave disappointed. Girls here are kinda like sharks LOL. That treatment you get in Nairobi ain't the same in Johannesburg. You'll have to come out your pockets pretty heavy. Joburg has more ballers that spend very heavily. Jo'burg is more international so can't really flex being a "foreigner".

Just stick to Nairobi to be 1000% with you.

[King Amir]

I went two times to Nairobi. It was an amazing feeling, I had many girls for free, and I only needed to pay for their transportation and food.

Now I am looking for other destinations like Johannesburg.

On Tinder, there are a lot of girls who I match with and they look good and I like them.

The question for the experts here, is Johannesburg is good for passport bros or do you think I will not get the same experience I got in Nairobi?

[Terry09]

I reached out to an old contact in Polokwane and advised her of my impending visit and desire to have my way with her. It had been more than 5 years since we last met but surprisingly she was game. A working class semi pro that has no limits and accepts tokens of appreciation for some adult fun.

I had limited time in Polokwane therefore a pre arranged match seemed ideal. I finally found myself in Polokwane and attended to business first and then made contact with my old time female companion. A lot can happen in 5 years. She was no longer the beautiful, shapely South African with smooth skin. The lady had deteriorated greatly from the last time I saw her, so much that I had to foregore our match. I made an excuse about time running out and headed for Johannesburg.

Expecting better fortunes in Johannesburg I headed towards Cheeky Tiger in Kempton Park CBD. It's a bar that has strip shows and the girls are available as there are rooms on the premises. Quality and quantity was not very high but you will definitely find what you need. I zoomed in on 2 girls. Had a tough time choosing between the 2. Whilst still deciding I asked for quotations from the girls I was not interested in and the going rate was R100. I then made my move for one of my 2 targets and settled for the one who was closest to me. It's a long walk to the rooms and you can't get in with your beer + you have to pay R5 or R10. The rooms are specifically designed for ST. I then requested for 2 positions. My girl refused and said only one position is on offer missionary at R100. However R150 will get me doggy however I can't change positions. If there is something I hate it's too many instructions and this pissed me off. I took the R100 package and received a very cold session I nearly stopped. Not wanting to stir trouble I managed to complete.

Very affordable prices but a very cold session. I have never experienced such in RSA. Any seasoned senior mongers interested in group mongering get in touch. The SA scene is very affordable.

[Atanion]

I returned from South Africa a few weeks ago and wanted to share my field notes.

I didn't have a lot of time for mongering, and I was very apprehensive about fucking anyone in South Africa due to the high rate of HIV. So, I was very careful in my explorations.

I was mostly in Pretoria so I went to Flamingo. It was dead with only a few girls, and they all seemed old and desperate. I soon left and went to Teazers Pretoria which much better. Teazers was clean, and the price list was clearly listed on the wall. I had a dance with Chanel who was half English and half Dutch. She allowed touching everwhere except for her pussy. No licking of the nipples was allowed. Chanel was attractive and probably late 20's. I then had a dance with Gabby who was Afrikaans. She was 18 years old and had similar rules to Chanel, but Gabby let me lightly suck on her nipples.

I drove and visited a few strip clubs, but, since I was only comfortable going during the day, most of them were empty. I then went to Chivalry Gentlemen's Club which was more in the Joburg area, and it was even nicer than Teazers. It was well lit with a nice variety of girls. There were girls from various African countries around South Africa, an Asian girl, and a few while girls. Not surprisingly, the white girls wanted more for their services.

I did a 30 minute dance with a young coloured girl who looked like Ariana Grande. She got totally naked except for her panties and straddled me. She ground her pelvis against my jeans and then asked me to take my dick out. I did so, and she rubbed her panty-covered pussy against my bare cock. I was extremely tempted to upgrade to one of the cabanas outside and fuck her (with a condom on, of course). But, I controlled myself and just enjoyed running my hands all over her body and sucking on her pert nipples. She ended up giving me a handjob, and I exploded in her hands.

The value for money was pretty good due to the conversion rate between rand and the US dollar. I don't think I will return to South Africa again, but I enjoyed my brief hobby time there.

[AsiaFever]

Visiting for a bit, curious what sort of "tips" are expected at the Asian MP for various services? Like HJ, FS, etc?

Seems an hour massage is around 400 rand and then? For extras?

[KindAn]

As promised, here is a more comprehensive report regarding the Summit Club in Jozzy.

This report is based on my personal feelings during my recent visits in early April 2024 compared to the numerous visits I have made there over the past 15 years. And of course, I took into account the feedback of some girls working in this club (I will not mention the names of these girls here to avoid them getting into trouble).

As most of you know, the management of the Summit Club has changed a few months ago and it is not without consequences.

I had already given an overview in my previous post during my last visit (it was then in November 2023) on the attitude of certain girls who no longer respect the standards in terms of price as well as their questionable hygiene (it seems that the free STD tests are now gone).

As a regular customer for over 15 years, I have formed long-standing friendships with some of the girls and have recently heard more and more complaints from the dancers working there about a drop in their daily wages. Their salary would now be 100 ZAR per day!

For those who don't know, dancers must pay for their uniforms themselves (we're talking about 500 ZAR) as well as the DJ during their shows (150 ZAR).

Girls are also subject to fines if they do not wear makeup (for instance they are forced to wear fake eyelashes, even if it causes allergies) or if they do not wear high heels.

They used to earn a price money of over 1000 ZAR for dance competionts before COVID. Now, he reward is 250 ZAR only.

Add to that the cost of transportation and food, you will understand, the girls no longer earn anything working there. They can only count on tips to earn a minimum. Some of them started to leave the club. Those who haven't yet done so are seriously thinking about it.

Tip included, a day brings them around 300 ZAR excluding sexual services. Not all of them are keen on having pay for sex activities by the way.

This situation has an impact on the girl's behavior which becomes more and more unhappy and bitchy.

In short, once in the club, you may be harassed by girls to pay them something to eat or drink; even if you are already sitting with another girl. You will give them a note to have peace but in practice, they will keep the money and buy nothing. We are therefore no longer in a hassle-free atmosphere as before. Note that girls do not earn commission on drinks.

Regarding extra activities, instead of multiplying sessions at 300 - 500 ZAR as before, the trend is now to settle for 1 or 2 per shift but at a higher rate.

Obviously, the price they charge for their services is also increasing sharply.

It is now almost impossible to find a dancer accepting less than 1000 ZAR for a short time session. Most want 1500 or even more. All this for a maximum of 30 minutes in a rented booth.

Management is now very strict on hte 30 minutes limit (I have never experienced that before). If you exceed the allotted time, the price is multiplied by 2. The same goes for the rental of the booth (price is still 80 ZAR by the way) and for condoms (20 ZAR each).

There are now chances that girls will now ask you to pay for their services beforehand, which I find very uncomfortable and opens the door to rip-offs. It never happened to me before. Is this a new directive from management?

What also makes me uncomfortable is their complaints when you haven't reached the orgasm after 15 minutes (baby, you need to come now! Yes, it's new to me too.

Not so long ago it was easy to find a dancer who would follow you home for less than R1000 after their shift. Now it's over 5000. Not worth it anymore as you can still have an all night threesome with 2 freelancers in Sandton for that price.

It is still possible to fuck for 700 for a short time with freelancers but they are starting to adopt the same behavior as dancers (paying in advance, watching the time and asking for more money after 15 minutes).

Regarding health checks, you should know that more than 50% of the girls who work there are HIV positive and that some knowingly offer services without a condom for 1000 ZAR more (BBBJ or even BBFS). In the past, a free STD screening service was provided every month, as well as free condoms and a free treatment in case of infection. It seems that this is no longer happening either. Be careful, the threat of AIDS is very real. I have known some girls who have sadly left us in recent years.

In conclusion, this club is heading towards ruin, it's starting to show in the quality of the girls and the lack of customers.

You will have understood that I no longer recommend this place at all. It's no longer the relaxed atmosphere with nice and cheap girls that you could still find a year ago.

The only still interesting option in the area remains for me the Royal Park where it is still possible to have a good time with freelancers for 200 and dancers for 500. Let's hope that the Royal Park does not follow the example of its fellow competitor.

Looking forward to reading your comments. Thanks for sharing your opinion on the current situation of the club.

I've never been to Summit the few times I've been over to SA but it's a pity to hear it's gone downhill, I would always read the reports thinking it's a bucket list sort of place. Sad.

[Thelonoius]

Who knows, maybe we have the same contacts on our WhatsApp.

Thanks for this thorough report. This reality is sad. I haven't been there since last year but I usually found at least 1 or 2 that were def to my liking. I have the whatsapps for my favs so I guess I'll just have to go that route going forward. Hopefully this just drives talent up at Royal park..

[JustTK]

Never been to Africa but been looking at those ads on Exotic Africa specifically Cape town.

Are they mainly photoshot or just made up pictures?

I have no idea. I don't use social media like Insta. But I can say SA is very 'cosmopolitan' when it comes to encountering ladies from other African countries. And a few non-African countries.