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  1. #7508
    Quote Originally Posted by Blanquiceleste  [View Original Post]
    P.S. - For folks who are absolutely gameless, there are massage shops like 252 Massa and LE Cyrcee, but you probably know about that already.
    I'm pretty sure that he will not be comfortable in LE Cyrcee with many girls rounding you once you enter the place, and he will probably be scammed at 252 because he wouldn't take the step to talk about payment to the girl before going up in the room.

    It seems to me that he doesn't want to pay also, but if he is willing to pay I would say the best thing to meet girls is not discos but bars on the riverside.

    It's surely intimidating for a shy guy to go there alone when all the girls are already there, so the best thing in my opinion would be to go in any of the bars in the evening (around 5 or 6), pretend to be there just for the happy hour, and then when the girls will slowly arrive at work they will notice him and make the first move without intimidating him. And if he doesn't like the girls in that bar, just have a look at which girl looks good in other bars and go and sit in that bar the next days until he finds one that he likes.

  2. #7507

    Game

    Billy.

    I can give you a very good hint.

    But I will not post it here it is a smaller venue. PM me.

    When you can.

  3. #7506
    Quote Originally Posted by BillyJ  [View Original Post]
    I am wondering if there is any recommendation as to a good nightclub type place for a shy guy with no game to go for a night out, have drinks, listen to music, meet a variety of women. Something like some of the clubs in Bangkok where lots of women will often come up to you and start talking to you, on their own initiative, so it is easy to mingle and meet people even if you have stage fright.

    My review of a few places.

    Darlin darlin. Gorgeous women. Music way too loud, difficult to talk and feels like a rock concert. Difficult to meet women as the place is crowded and they seem to segregate either near one of the entrances or along one of the bars, standing alone and chatting with their friends, rather than making themselves available and easy to talk to, partying, etc.

    Would have to walk around conspicuously staring at people to try to find someone you like. The girls often ask for money just to sit down with you which tends to ruin the romance. It seems the MO of the wealthy Chinese and Koreans who go there is, reserve a table and somehow meet a few girls. Pay them money to sit with you and have them introduce you to their friends. Over the course of several days you get to know the place pretty well. Lots of guys walk in there and seem to know everyone already, including the staff, security, etc. Many women seem reluctant to sit down with a guy who is not Chinese / Korean due to being concerned that the guy may not be rich enough, non-Chinese / Korean seem to lack some initial credibility, which also makes it not an optimal place to just wander in on some particular evening, unless you have both cash and game, then could be OK.

    Pontoon. Certainly has nice music and cool atmosphere, but doesn't seem to be a good way to mingle and meet a number of different women to find someone you like. It seems one way to meet people is to sit at the rounded rectangle-shaped big bar and have some drinks, look around and see if you can make eye contact. This would be OK for someone who has game and can walk up to them and start chatting, which I could work up the courage to do, but the problem is the probability that I will wind up liking a particular woman is kind of low based just on first sight and there are usually just 1-2 potential people to meet anyway. So even if I muster up the courage to talk to them, most of the time wouldn't work out anyway. I see also people sitting in the VIP chairs, sometimes just a few women together. Are these wealthy local women? It seems they sit there for long periods of time and only occasionally are approached by guys. Sometimes guys also sit in the VIP sofas alone for quite some time, I don't see women coming up to them to sit with them and meet. All the people on the dance floor, men and women dancing together, I have not seen how exactly it is that they are meeting each other.

    Heart of Darkness, I like the atmosphere, decor, lighting, etc. Music again at a reasonable level. As people say there appear to be a lot of gay men there, but also plenty of women so its fine. I have not been to the second floor so I am not sure what it is like there. On the first floor, it is possible to get a seat and drink while listening to the music. There seem to be two main places: the dance floor, where individuals without game are not going to succeed in meeting women, and then the seats nearby the dance floor. One can sit at one of those tables near the dance floor / across from the bar, but again, women do not come up to guys sitting there (or is it just me?) There are also not a lot of women in that area, occasionally one or two may be sitting alone, but they do not make any effort to be approachable, much less talk to a guy on their own initiative. They seem to know what they are doing already, either maybe they are not looking to meet guys, or already are with someone, in any event not giving off a very approachable vibe.

    Any advice on where might be a good place to go? I guess basically, are there places where the women will make efforts to meet guys and make things easy for guys who are shy / gameless?
    By design a nightclub is a place where one socializes meets new people that might lead to other things. Freelancers working in nightclubs are there for one reason only. Money in exchange for sex. So having game or no game in nightclubs which are known for hosting working girls is irrelevant.

    You say the music in DD is way too loud, while you find the music at Pontoon acceptable? Most folks would think the other way round. DD is classy, Pontoon is a dive. In all the times that I have been to DD not once as a girl asked me for money to sit with me or talk to me. And I am not Chinese or Korean. The MO is as simple as it gets. Grab a beer at the bar, scan the place for talent that appeals to you. Find one, talk to her and make the deal. $100ST is the norm, although some folks claim to pay lesser or higher. No judgment. Pontoon OTOH does not get going before 1 am. The place is full of cheap twatpackers trying to land a freebie. I can't see the fun in waiting up till 3 am to pick up a drunk chick.

    Not sure if you have read the thread here, but there are several clubs that have been mentioned and reviewed by seasoned forum members.

    P.S. - For folks who are absolutely gameless, there are massage shops like 252 Massa and LE Cyrcee, but you probably know about that already.

  4. #7505

    Any nightclub type place to mingle and meet women in PP, for shy guys without game?

    I am wondering if there is any recommendation as to a good nightclub type place for a shy guy with no game to go for a night out, have drinks, listen to music, meet a variety of women. Something like some of the clubs in Bangkok where lots of women will often come up to you and start talking to you, on their own initiative, so it is easy to mingle and meet people even if you have stage fright.

    My review of a few places.

    Darlin darlin. Gorgeous women. Music way too loud, difficult to talk and feels like a rock concert. Difficult to meet women as the place is crowded and they seem to segregate either near one of the entrances or along one of the bars, standing alone and chatting with their friends, rather than making themselves available and easy to talk to, partying, etc.

    Would have to walk around conspicuously staring at people to try to find someone you like. The girls often ask for money just to sit down with you which tends to ruin the romance. It seems the MO of the wealthy Chinese and Koreans who go there is, reserve a table and somehow meet a few girls. Pay them money to sit with you and have them introduce you to their friends. Over the course of several days you get to know the place pretty well. Lots of guys walk in there and seem to know everyone already, including the staff, security, etc. Many women seem reluctant to sit down with a guy who is not Chinese / Korean due to being concerned that the guy may not be rich enough, non-Chinese / Korean seem to lack some initial credibility, which also makes it not an optimal place to just wander in on some particular evening, unless you have both cash and game, then could be OK.

    Pontoon. Certainly has nice music and cool atmosphere, but doesn't seem to be a good way to mingle and meet a number of different women to find someone you like. It seems one way to meet people is to sit at the rounded rectangle-shaped big bar and have some drinks, look around and see if you can make eye contact. This would be OK for someone who has game and can walk up to them and start chatting, which I could work up the courage to do, but the problem is the probability that I will wind up liking a particular woman is kind of low based just on first sight and there are usually just 1-2 potential people to meet anyway. So even if I muster up the courage to talk to them, most of the time wouldn't work out anyway. I see also people sitting in the VIP chairs, sometimes just a few women together. Are these wealthy local women? It seems they sit there for long periods of time and only occasionally are approached by guys. Sometimes guys also sit in the VIP sofas alone for quite some time, I don't see women coming up to them to sit with them and meet. All the people on the dance floor, men and women dancing together, I have not seen how exactly it is that they are meeting each other.

    Heart of Darkness, I like the atmosphere, decor, lighting, etc. Music again at a reasonable level. As people say there appear to be a lot of gay men there, but also plenty of women so its fine. I have not been to the second floor so I am not sure what it is like there. On the first floor, it is possible to get a seat and drink while listening to the music. There seem to be two main places: the dance floor, where individuals without game are not going to succeed in meeting women, and then the seats nearby the dance floor. One can sit at one of those tables near the dance floor / across from the bar, but again, women do not come up to guys sitting there (or is it just me?) There are also not a lot of women in that area, occasionally one or two may be sitting alone, but they do not make any effort to be approachable, much less talk to a guy on their own initiative. They seem to know what they are doing already, either maybe they are not looking to meet guys, or already are with someone, in any event not giving off a very approachable vibe.

    Any advice on where might be a good place to go? I guess basically, are there places where the women will make efforts to meet guys and make things easy for guys who are shy / gameless?

  5. #7504
    Quote Originally Posted by Skyboy23  [View Original Post]
    Okay Boutique is a sort of family hotel. They have good swimming pool on terrace. You can get in house Massage (even in your room) . And easily a HJ from massager.

    Point Hotel. It on st. 130 where the all the night action happens. They have a bar on terrace. Easy to bring girl in the room.
    Thanks for your post good info. I'm staying at the point hotel next month.

  6. #7503

    Darlin Darlin Phnom Penh

    I have tried many girls in Phnom Penh:

    1. St 130 Girls.

    2. Disco Bar girls.

    3. Darlin Darlin, Naga World Girls.

    Generally.

    1. St. 130 Girls USD 30-60. Plus Bar fine. Ok Ok types girls.

    2. Disco Bar Girls. A bit better than St 130 girls. (Freelancers).

    3. Darlin Darlin Girls. Best of all the Phnom Penh Girls I could Spot. - Price Starts USD 100. Some girls even demand USD 200.

    I prefer to take the Darlin Darlin girls. They are Sexy but downside is their tantrums.

    Sky Boy.

  7. #7502

    Okay vs Point Hotel Cambodia

    Okay Boutique is a sort of family hotel. They have good swimming pool on terrace. You can get in house Massage (even in your room) . And easily a HJ from massager.

    Point Hotel. It on st. 130 where the all the night action happens. They have a bar on terrace. Easy to bring girl in the room.

    Quote Originally Posted by LoveVegas  [View Original Post]
    Can anyone give me good or bad about these too hotels. Leaning toward okay just cause of the pool but just like to see what you guys think that have maybe been to both. Thanks for you help heading there in April.

  8. #7501

    I too have heard stuff about tourist getting into trouble with drugs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sandy1984  [View Original Post]
    Hi guys, I would be travelling to phnom penh on Apr 18. Did some research on the net and saw lot of stories about tourist getting into traps where the pimp offers WG and once the customer takes her in a bunch of guys show up to blackmail you claiming the WG is below 18. How common is this and how to be cautious?
    I heard some nasty stuff about touristy getting into trouble from my tuk tuk guy. WG had trapped them with drugs. I know the tuk tuk guys talk a lot of shit, but it sounded scary.

  9. #7500

    Okay boutique is good but lot of families

    Quote Originally Posted by LoveVegas  [View Original Post]
    Can anyone give me good or bad about these too hotels. Leaning toward okay just cause of the pool but just like to see what you guys think that have maybe been to both. Thanks for you help heading there in April.
    Okay boutique is good and GF. But when I stayed, there were lot of families and young couples staying at the hotel. Got HJ from couple of masseurs that work in house at Okay boutique.

  10. #7499

    More one off than regular occurrence

    Quote Originally Posted by Sandy1984  [View Original Post]
    Hi guys, I would be travelling to phnom penh on Apr 18. Did some research on the net and saw lot of stories about tourist getting into traps where the pimp offers WG and once the customer takes her in a bunch of guys show up to blackmail you claiming the WG is below 18. How common is this and how to be cautious?
    Hi a few brief comments re this 1. See heading. Prob very unlucky if this happens but see point 2, 3 etc.

    If you go hunting for young girls (you know what I mean) increases likelihood.

    Found that although young ones are good for ego slightly older in safe range 20 - 28 give better perf.

    Some in 20 - 28 range look young so.

    If it looks like a scam walk straight away. Anything that doesn't seem just right. Walk - there are plenty others. Use your radar.

    I deal direct with girls. Pimps for me = trouble. (not always but "cut out the middle man".

    ID's can be fake but check if worried then ask questions like so what year were you born? When did you turn 18? Etc etc. You are smarter than then. Any hesitation = walk. Classic one tell them you can tell how old they are by the length from the wrist to the elbow (BS) tell you have medical training. See how much they protest. You are smarter than them remember.

    Be careful of " can my sister come too" or doing doubles.

    Pick up from bars and established places not FL or pimps.

    Don't drink / smoke too much. Keep your wits about you.

    Main thing is always keep your radar up and monitoring- as said before if it looks not right = walk. Remember you always hear about the plane crashes not the hundreds that fly safely every day.

    NI.

  11. #7498

    Trap

    Hi guys, I would be travelling to phnom penh on Apr 18. Did some research on the net and saw lot of stories about tourist getting into traps where the pimp offers WG and once the customer takes her in a bunch of guys show up to blackmail you claiming the WG is below 18. How common is this and how to be cautious?

  12. #7497
    Quote Originally Posted by LoveVegas  [View Original Post]
    Can anyone give me good or bad about these too hotels. Leaning toward okay just cause of the pool but just like to see what you guys think that have maybe been to both. Thanks for you help heading there in April.
    Dunno about OK Boutique.

    I have stayed at Point Boutique and I would recommend it highly.

    I got a King Suite room which is usually just one of its kind on a floor, I got the highest floor which was good. Affords a nice view of the river and skyline. Also keeps the noise and smells of Street 130 away. The room is spacious and well appointed. IT is a relatively new hotel, so the fixtures and fittings have that typical new feel to it. The bathroom is clean, has a standing shower with a localised water heater. The fridge in my room was not working well, but the staff fixed that quickly. Bed is comfortable. The balcony is really an apology though, be careful while entering or exiting the balcony, as the AC compressor unit is mounted in an awkward manner there.

    Importantly, it is girl friendly. Staff won't blink an eyelid when you walk past them with a girl or two in tow. The location is very convenient, right on the street where all the action is. Convenience stores, restaurants, etc are all right outside the hotel. Can be easily found on maps.

  13. #7496

    Point or okay boutique hotel.

    Can anyone give me good or bad about these too hotels. Leaning toward okay just cause of the pool but just like to see what you guys think that have maybe been to both. Thanks for you help heading there in April.

  14. #7495

    Blue Tongue changes name again

    Blue Tongue Hotel which was remodeled a few years has changed its name twice since they completed the job.

    Last year it was Highland Hotel.

    Could not find that name for a new reservation this week.

    Zhe Jian Hotel name kept popping up. Then I notice the address. Same as Blue Tongue / Highland.

    Prices are basically the same as last year.

    Please. Would somebody take over the old Walkabout Bar lease. There is never anybody eating in that place. All you would need is a bar and an okay cook. The girls would come back and the guys would follow. There is no place in that area that has an inside bar. The old Walkabout Bar had customers 7/24. It was the second floor hotel that sucked. That second floor is gone. Somebody should take a chance at that location. Also include a pool table for the girls.

  15. #7494
    Quote Originally Posted by Franga  [View Original Post]
    So there is no advantage to holding dollars versus riels.
    There is at least one advantage of keeping mostly dollars: it takes less place in your pocket.

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