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  1. #7718

    Khmer princesses

    It is not necessary to learn the bar names before your trip. There are so many, the endeavor would be futile. Just go with the flow. Let visual impression guide you. No cover charge. Juice at 2 US $. Beer at 3.25 US $. It is very easy to sit down an get a feel for the scenery without spending yourself into oblivion. Some folks on this forum chastise one or the other mama san (manager). Maybe they have a point. But to get to the best girls, and to keep the fun rolling, a drink here and there works wonders.

    Some folks say the best looking girls are not available for take out. Let me refine that. The bar district on the river between 104 and 138 street is taxed. Police enforce 18+ policy. The bars hire very pretty newbies just to sit outside and show their face. And yes, a fair share of these princesses refuse when asked to be bedded. But patience, and, as always, money are the best aphrodisiacs. Avoid drinking alcohol. Dress lightly (foreigner with jackets look so ridiculous) but nicely (long pants, shoes or sneakers, a short sleeve shirt or polo) . Show up several days in a row. Establish eye contact. Let her know how pretty she is. Let the mama san know you want her. Eventually I found even the prettiest stunners will quote a price (short term) and will give in to your charms.

    The service side suffers tremendously when picking the prettiest, 18 yo stunners. Often in Cambodia, no blow job, just touching and covered sex. You can choose the other side, full service, but looks and age bracket suffer accordingly. The ratio of stunners to all girls is one in 30 I would guess. Most girls have average Asian bodies and character. There are many more jaded chubbies than stunners. So choose what you want.

    To be continued. Stay tuned. Don't argue. If you have nothing nice to say, say nothing. If you like this train of reports, send a thumbs up to our impatient friend.

  2. #7717

    Don't cry before you are hurt

    Quote Originally Posted by Blanquiceleste  [View Original Post]
    OK. Thanks for the history and economics 101 lessons. How about a real report now?
    At the gate of patience there is no crowding.

    More bluntly: Don't hastle those who enliven this forum.

    Your comment is no better than the umpteenth girl harrying me for another lady drink. Be ashamed. Get over it. Stay tuned. OK mate?

  3. #7716

    Eat garlic

    Quote Originally Posted by Redwing  [View Original Post]
    This is inspiring! I'm 60 years old & thought my mongering days were numbered but now I'm reading about 78 & 79 year olds who are still active! What's the secret guys, leading a clean healthy life or just lot's of little blue pills? LOL. Whatever it is I wish you both many more happy years in the sport!
    Eating lots of garlic keep the old fella hard. I usually wake up with a stiffy most mornings after eating garlic. Cycle regularly too. Most mates have a limp dick though due to unhealthy lifestyle.

  4. #7715

    For Redwing. Secret of An Old Dude

    Quote Originally Posted by Redwing  [View Original Post]
    This is inspiring! I'm 60 years old & thought my mongering days were numbered but now I'm reading about 78 & 79 year olds who are still active! What's the secret guys, leading a clean healthy life or just lot's of little blue pills? LOL. Whatever it is I wish you both many more happy years in the sport!
    Redwing. I don't know any "secrets". If you having a good time at age 60, just keep doing what you've been doing. You'll probably learn, as the years pass, that your desire lessens; maybe your alcohol tolerance isn't what it once was. My "m. O. " is to take a shower just before going out; wear clean clothes (no tank tops, shorts, or flip flops). Be interactive with the damsels, joking and smiling; I'm not overly active with my hands unless a chick starts it or I'm in a bar where it seems encouraged or tolerated. Not every bar is a "diddling bar". I conduct a satisfactory pre-employment interview. I don't need to pay a girl a fortune; just fair compensation. (The girls do exchange information about how much you paid and what your requirements are.) I don't need a Ferrari to get from Point A to Point be, but a Yugo won't cut it. If I want a "Superstar" I can get one. And it probably won't cost me more than what the 30 year old next to me would need to pay. (The girls surely know old dudes won't bang them all night. LOL).

    Sam.

  5. #7714
    Quote Originally Posted by Perennial  [View Original Post]
    Air travel via China is dirt cheap. Checked bag arrived reliably. Food on Southern China Air was very good. Lux Riverside is a good place to stay. Many cheaper, smaller, more discrete guesthouses available.

    City is pleasant, in Nov / Dec dry with occasional rain shower, 30 C, sunny. Mekong river brings fresh air. People are friendly and relaxed. Lots of smiles. In overwhelming majority of encounters non-sharky, cheerful attitude.

    Cambodia is in the least developed country category. There are 100's of Western companies whose revenues are higher than this country's GDP (generated by 13 million Khmer. In exchange rate terms about 1300 US $ per capita in 2017. In purchasing power parity terms at a less ridiculous 4 000 US $.

    97% of the country are of Khmer ethnicity and Buddhist religion. Stable, apparently autocratic government. Longest-serving non-royal prime minister in the world, basically in power since 1985. Apparently very corrupt country to do business in. But relatively low Gini coefficient, meaning relatively even distribution of wealth.

    If you are street wise, a safe place to be as a foreigner. Carry no ID, no credit card, but 100 US $ in cash and even the worst case scenario (robbery) is merely a running expense. But I witnessed none of that.
    OK. Thanks for the history and economics 101 lessons. How about a real report now?

  6. #7713

    Cambodian basics

    Air travel via China is dirt cheap. Checked bag arrived reliably. Food on Southern China Air was very good. Lux Riverside is a good place to stay. Many cheaper, smaller, more discrete guesthouses available.

    City is pleasant, in Nov / Dec dry with occasional rain shower, 30 C, sunny. Mekong river brings fresh air. People are friendly and relaxed. Lots of smiles. In overwhelming majority of encounters non-sharky, cheerful attitude.

    Cambodia is in the least developed country category. There are 100's of Western companies whose revenues are higher than this country's GDP (generated by 13 million Khmer. In exchange rate terms about 1300 US $ per capita in 2017. In purchasing power parity terms at a less ridiculous 4 000 US $.

    97% of the country are of Khmer ethnicity and Buddhist religion. Stable, apparently autocratic government. Longest-serving non-royal prime minister in the world, basically in power since 1985. Apparently very corrupt country to do business in. But relatively low Gini coefficient, meaning relatively even distribution of wealth.

    If you are street wise, a safe place to be as a foreigner. Carry no ID, no credit card, but 100 US $ in cash and even the worst case scenario (robbery) is merely a running expense. But I witnessed none of that.

    Some on this forum say the bar district is small. It is not. It may be smaller than the bar ecosystems in Bangkok or Pattaya, but larger does not mean better. Pnomh Penh offers a more relaxed atmosphere at somewhat lower cost and with Khmer peculiarities. About 100 000 Cambodian girls turn 18 each year. If the parents of only a tenth of them cannot pay for schooling, they must make a choice. Especially the pretty skinny once feel drawn. Their language is fiendishly difficult for an outsider, and their script is obscure and, of course, non-Latin / Greek / kyrillic. So the overwhelming majority of girls speak no English. Those who want to take the plunge, earn real money, monetarize their youth and beauty and support their parents are basically bound to be hanging out in Pnomh Penh, as the other cities are minor.

  7. #7712

    Any Advice on Girls / Guests friendly Hotels or Airbnb

    Looking for any advice on a Phnom Penh Airbnb's or Hotels that are OK with me bringing more than 1 or more ladies back to my room?

  8. #7711
    Quote Originally Posted by MrClen  [View Original Post]
    Now you are one guy I would like to meet. 78 years old! Well I am 79 (didn't think it would come this soon) but am still active an am told I look about 65 or so. I love the KTV atmosphere, singing and playing and getting to know my evenings entertainment. I will be going to PP in early December and staying at Naga World but only for the weekend. I will be going with some Korean friends who may know their way around a bit, but if you happen to be there leave a post.
    This is inspiring! I'm 60 years old & thought my mongering days were numbered but now I'm reading about 78 & 79 year olds who are still active! What's the secret guys, leading a clean healthy life or just lot's of little blue pills? LOL. Whatever it is I wish you both many more happy years in the sport!

  9. #7710
    Quote Originally Posted by MeoDen  [View Original Post]
    The rooms at Luxury World (sold and rebranded I think) are decent enough $10. They have a lot of girls in the fishbowl but the line up is very unappealng. They look like they rarely get a customer, and if they do they want to maximise their take on the transaction.
    Update: Luxury World now renamed Luxury City. About 20 women in the bowl on the first floor, 6 of them Vietnamese. Nothing very interesting. Maybe 97.

    The hotel itself looks a little run down but rooms are going for $17 right now, not the worst deal. Some construction work nearby.

    What I did notice was ther are 3 floors of massage, the topmost one 'VIP'. Bell hop said 'ladies more beautiful' there. But neither reception nor mamasan were inclined to let us have a look. Maybe not open until later, or maybe they prefer Chinese clientel.

    If you stay there you can get the massage girls to come to your room, but $10 charge remains.

  10. #7709
    Quote Originally Posted by Paolo99  [View Original Post]
    You're wrong, massage 252 was not dirty when I've been there. I went there multiple times during one my trips in PP and the rooms were clean.

    The thing that I didn't like there was to have to negotiate the price directly with the girl before taking her in the room.

    And it's not a soapy place, it's just a basic fuck and go place. My experiences there were not very good but I guess it depends on the girl you chose.
    252 was refurbished three years ago and they cleaned up the rooms, but it's grungy again. Holes in the ceilings, and they don't change sheets between customers. One time I walked into a shower and found a girl (or a punter?) had left a shit balanced on the toilet seat. I'd say that was filthy.

    Chinese are paying $15 just for the room (there is really no massage). There's a very slim chance you would find a girl there worth as much as $30. Many of the Chinese are happy to pay $70-100.

    I realise people don't want to hear this, but 15 years ago cute girls were available in central Phnom Penh. Foreigners generaly paid $5. Check out the movie City of Ghosts, part filmed in an MP on street 63 using actual massage girls.

    The rooms at Luxury World (sold and rebranded I think) are decent enough $10. They have a lot of girls in the fishbowl but the line up is very unappealng. They look like they rarely get a customer, and if they do they want to maximise their take on the transaction.

    There has been an explosion of Chinese MPs around town, some fairly upmarket in their facilities. Enthusiasts may like to investigate. If they are welcome.

  11. #7708
    Quote Originally Posted by Lifeingr  [View Original Post]
    I went to the Hotel Luxury World but the quality was very low and didn't choose any girl. Then I tried to go to the 252 massage. I didn't even bother to go inside. The building itself looks so bad and dirty that turned me off completely. I must say that most places in Cambodia are very dirty.
    You're wrong, massage 252 was not dirty when I've been there. I went there multiple times during one my trips in PP and the rooms were clean.

    The thing that I didn't like there was to have to negotiate the price directly with the girl before taking her in the room.

    And it's not a soapy place, it's just a basic fuck and go place. My experiences there were not very good but I guess it depends on the girl you chose.

  12. #7707
    Quote Originally Posted by CIMguy  [View Original Post]
    Anyone try Massa or Hotel Luxury World or Mean Haur Hotel for a soapy massage?

    Do they do actual soapy massage or is it just called that because of the fishbowl when choosing a girl?

    Good / Bad experiences with these places?

    Thanks.
    I went to the Hotel Luxury World but the quality was very low and didn't choose any girl. Then I tried to go to the 252 massage. I didn't even bother to go inside. The building itself looks so bad and dirty that turned me off completely. I must say that most places in Cambodia are very dirty.

  13. #7706

    RIP Happy Herb Pizza

    - Happy Herb Pizza was an institution. It was the first one that sprinkled weed on the pizza. It was listed in every travel book. Many copy-cats popped up.

    - Last year, the stored was closed. Now, that place has been replaced by Happy Paradise Pizza.

    - This is the story I heard from the tuk-tuk drivers that sold / sell weed. The owner of pizza place next door was arrested. They found 5 kilos of weed at his house. Then they arrested So-Pal, the owner of Happy Herb Pizza. They followed him and found his stash. So-Pal never sold weed himself. It was always his employee.

    - The owner of the pizza place next door supposedly paid a large bribe to get out of jail. One person said $50K. Another said $10K. They are still selling, but supposedly they are paying the police every month. (So fucking CORRUPT!) Happy Herb owner, So-Pal got out of jail after paying bribe, but he closed his shop.

    - The reason I heard on why they got arrested was because they sold to Cambodian students (high school kids). They said there was high traffic going there.

    - I'm hearing contradictory things about the tuk-tuk sellers and the foreigners. One person said the police are going after the sellers and foreigners. Another said that they don't bother anyone as long as they sell only to foreigners. I believe the later because as a tourist walks along the riverside, he is constantly asked if he wants weed. The tuk-tuk drivers will show you the weed somewhat out in the open.

    - As always, it's caveat emptor. The days of open smoking along the riverside is gone. People needs to be discreet.

    - On a side note, the Dirty Sailor (on St 172) used to sell indoor quality weed. But the price was ridiculous ($20 per gram), more than California. That place got busted. It closed. People speculated that the owner from Amsterdam paid a large bribe. Indoor quality is still available from somewhere else, but price is still ridiculous.

  14. #7705

    Soapy massage

    Anyone try Massa or Hotel Luxury World or Mean Haur Hotel for a soapy massage?

    Do they do actual soapy massage or is it just called that because of the fishbowl when choosing a girl?

    Good / Bad experiences with these places?

    Thanks.

  15. #7704
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    Haven't been to PP for some time and this is not a motivator for me to return any time soon. I'm one who takes pride in being able to barfine a girl who many are unable to but when the number is nearly 50% that would be annoying and more effort and time than I care to spend.

    Are these girls absolutely unattainable or does it depend on the guy and, more importantly, the money that is offered?
    Well, I will be on ground mid-December. Even though that 50% hit rate is a bummer, I still like the vibe and non-sharky demeanor of the Khmer girls.

    I cannot say if the girls who refuse to barfine are absolutely unattainable or whether they will go out with the right guy for the right price. Simply because I do not chase such girls, unless I have been struck by lightning. And that has happened just once. I met a girl at Xanadu on my trip in April 2019, who refused to go out. I was totally besotted by her, dunno why. So I took her Line ID and kept in touch. When I returned in August, I asked her out again and she refused. And finally when I went back in early October and asked her out for the third time, she caved in.

    Was she good?

    Absolutely thrilling. Not a very talented BBBJ but the GFE was top notch and kinda genuine.

    Was the chase worth it?

    Sometimes its all about the chase.

    Will I do it again?

    Hell, if I find another girl like that, by all means.

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