Bali

[BenderOver]

Anyone been? Any action? Not after a resort style accom but any decent accom -4 star maybe?

Would it be better to stay in Seminyak for action then a few days in Uluwatu or can anyone direct me to a surf beach like Uluwatu with action please.

Been to Seminyak but beach was dirty and water was brown and full of plastic and rubbish - is the water blue in Uluwatu?

NI.

Blue water is tricky to find. First, any area near Jakarta or around Bali is not blue water. There's too much population dumping nitrates into the water near the shoreline to keep the water blue. Second, blue water works best with shallows. And unfortunately, the shallows should either be bleached coral or just plain sand. Around Bali in almost all directions (sanur, north shore, kuta) even if you were able to find CLEAR water in a shallow area, the seabed is usually covered with sea life with massive dark green or brown corals. If you go through the more touristy channels, you'll find tour trips that boat you out maybe 2 or 3 hours to one of the lesser inhabited islands. If you're lucky to find a shallow beach of lighter color sand or reefs that are partially bleached, then for sure you'll find the crystal blue water that you're looking for. If you're looking at the Bali forum for a reason such as a trip coming up soon, try to get yourself out to Lombok and from there head out to Gili or Komodo on a tour.

If you're in Jakarta, search for the thousand island tour trips.

[Adindas]

Ok, finally remember the name of the place, Kalijodo. It was in north west Jakarta from memory. Govt bulldozed the whole place down about 10 yrs ago.

Too bad as it was a great place with cheaper drinks and lady fun.

Just wondering if any places like Kalijodo exist anymore in Jakarta. Did all the girls move elsewhere in the city or got sent back to provinces?

I haven't been back in Jakarta in over 8 yrs now but would consider a trip back to explore if places like that still exist.

PM me if you have any info.

Cheers all.

I think "Kalijodo" is still smaller then its predecessor "kramat tunggak".
https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lokalisasi_Kramat_Tunggak.

It is in Indonesian but you could always use google translate.

It is not recommended for tourist and it might not be safe. But If you you are still interested in slum areas, Search for "railtrack" in Jakarta forum in ISG. There are quite a few post about this place.

[Pez612]

Can you recommend a guest friendly hotel, villa, or apartment in Sanur? I'm in the fortune position of the girlfriend wanting a threesome, and our current place is not suitable. Too many staff around. Thanks.

Anyone can help with this? Could be elsewhere in Denpasar if you know somewhere suitable. Thanks.

[United1]

Hi-.

I have a question regarding IMEI registration in Indonesia for frequent traveler. I am on Tourist Visa.

Does anyones have the info about IMEI registration for cell phone. I come to Jakarta and Bali at least 3-4 times a year. I will buy the Tourist SIM card at Telkosel in mall. And they will register my phone using my passport info. I usually stay for few weeks (under 25 days) in town and then leave.

However, last time the Telkosel staffs told met his is the LAST time they can register for me. And next time I MUST REGISTER at airport. This seems very very strange and no make sense. Because I am only buying a Tourist SIM card and I am leaving the country and then returning again. These Telkosel staff are not always smart.

Have any of your frequent travelers to Indonesia has this issue? Please advice. Thank you. Hope yoou don't mind, but I am also put on Jakarta form just in case.

[NewImage]

Anyone been? Any action? Not after a resort style accom but any decent accom -4 star maybe?

Would it be better to stay in Seminyak for action then a few days in Uluwatu or can anyone direct me to a surf beach like Uluwatu with action please.

Been to Seminyak but beach was dirty and water was brown and full of plastic and rubbish - is the water blue in Uluwatu?

NI.

[Sharka]

I don't disagree with you. But I'm only staying 3 nights in Jakarta, and the first night I'll probably be too exhausted to explore the city because of my 33-hour marathon from New York. So, I'm sure I can find enough to do to fill the remaining 2 days.

3 nights? All the way to Jakarta from NY and that's all the time you have. Can't say its enough to enjoy the mongering experience.

But definitely 2-3 days is enough time for being a tourist sightseeing as all you need to see in Jakarta can be done in 1 day (yeh, not much to see really) and the rest of the 2 days stuck in traffic.

Enjoy your trip and don't forget to post your adventure.

Cheers.

[Sharka]

You still have Kota and Mangga Besar but they have normal businesses amongst bars and brothels.

The very low end red light districts became too much of an obvious eyesore so were moved on. Rather than centralised areas, the dens have now dispersed to strips along train tracks or under freeways.

Just a minor correction: Kalijodo was big but wasn't the biggest in the world or even in Indonesia for that matter. Dolly in Surabaya was many times bigger. That was also closed down years ago. However, there were a few houses that managed to hold on. I have no idea if they still remain or if the area was gentrified.

Sad to see so many of the old institutions fading away.


Cheers. G.

Yeh, guess the world call it progress, while a monger calls it injustice.

Dolly was indeed the metropolis of brothels in its prime. I've only had the chance to visit the place once or twice in its glory before it was shut down. It was never completely gone as for maybe 2-3 yrs after, some shops still exist in the area but talent was limited and mainly more hidden from what I remember. They still exist but Too much time and hassle to find decent talent so I gave up and never went back.

From my trips to Indo. , I sort of remember Dolly was huge but was being slowly phased out by the govt while Kalijodo was untouched and intact and still in its prime, so maybe for a brief time it was the largest in Indo by default.

I haven't been to India but I heard they now have some big RLD to rival Kalijodo. Although not sure anything can ever rival Dollywood.

Cheers all and enjoy these places while they still exist.

[Goferring]

Ok, finally remember the name of the place, Kalijodo. It was in north west Jakarta from memory. Govt bulldozed the whole place down about 10 yrs ago.

Too bad as it was a great place with cheaper drinks and lady fun.

Just wondering if any places like Kalijodo exist anymore in Jakarta. Did all the girls move elsewhere in the city or got sent back to provinces?

I haven't been back in Jakarta in over 8 yrs now but would consider a trip back to explore if places like that still exist.

PM me if you have any info.

Cheers all.

You still have Kota and Mangga Besar but they have normal businesses amongst bars and brothels.

The very low end red light districts became too much of an obvious eyesore so were moved on. Rather than centralised areas, the dens have now dispersed to strips along train tracks or under freeways.

Just a minor correction: Kalijodo was big but wasn't the biggest in the world or even in Indonesia for that matter. Dolly in Surabaya was many times bigger. That was also closed down years ago. However, there were a few houses that managed to hold on. I have no idea if they still remain or if the area was gentrified.

Sad to see so many of the old institutions fading away.

Cheers. G.

[Joe Brooklyn]

I'm sure if you did some research, you can always find something you like no matter where you go. But my main point is this, Jakarta is NOT a true vacation paradise as outside of visiting some bars or spas or malls, really not much to do there.

You will spend more time stuck in traffic getting to whatever destination than actually spending time there.

Again, just my take.

I don't disagree with you. But I'm only staying 3 nights in Jakarta, and the first night I'll probably be too exhausted to explore the city because of my 33-hour marathon from New York. So, I'm sure I can find enough to do to fill the remaining 2 days.

[Sharka]

Jakarta 15 yrs ago had one of the biggest slum brothels on earth (sorry, can't remember the name of the place but hundreds of cute girls on site scattered over dozens of brothels and bars). It's a place only locals go to as I never saw a foreigner there. They didn't bother me as I was a regular there so many papa sans knew me by face. If you the correct price and a few Indonesian words, the price was about $5 a pop and $1 tip to the girl.

I have not been back to Jakarta in 8 yrs so not sure if any places like that exist anymore.

Ok, finally remember the name of the place, Kalijodo. It was in north west Jakarta from memory. Govt bulldozed the whole place down about 10 yrs ago.

Too bad as it was a great place with cheaper drinks and lady fun.

Just wondering if any places like Kalijodo exist anymore in Jakarta. Did all the girls move elsewhere in the city or got sent back to provinces?

I haven't been back in Jakarta in over 8 yrs now but would consider a trip back to explore if places like that still exist.

PM me if you have any info.

Cheers all.

[Sharka]

LOL, I remember reading about a famous zoo on the outskirts of Jakarta, as well as a nature retreat, with nice beaches or lagoons. I'll have to do more research before I go.

I'm sure if you did some research, you can always find something you like no matter where you go. But my main point is this, Jakarta is NOT a true vacation paradise as outside of visiting some bars or spas or malls, really not much to do there.

You will spend more time stuck in traffic getting to whatever destination than actually spending time there.

Again, just my take.

[NewImage]

LOL, I remember reading about a famous zoo on the outskirts of Jakarta, as well as a nature retreat, with nice beaches or lagoons. I'll have to do more research before I go.

Not that it looks enticing.

4 FoW2.

[Joe Brooklyn]

I hear sitting around in heavy traffic all day wondering when you are going to move is all the rage in Jakarta since. Well forever.

LOL, I remember reading about a famous zoo on the outskirts of Jakarta, as well as a nature retreat, with nice beaches or lagoons. I'll have to do more research before I go.

[Hung Man 1808]

Thanks.

What about activities around Jakarta to do during the day?

I hear sitting around in heavy traffic all day wondering when you are going to move is all the rage in Jakarta since. Well forever.

[Joe Brooklyn]

And another point as prices are similar, Bali is a much better place to visit. Cleaner air, nice beaches, more sites to see. Jakarta is a shithole by comparison, endless traffic, pollution so thick can cut with a knife, no beaches and nothing to see other than the National Monument and some malls.

Just my take on this.

Thanks.

What about activities around Jakarta to do during the day?