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  1. #1510

    Memories from the past

    The old regulars of Batam, those who have travelled there for many years in the past, know the standing of Formosa Hotel in the common memory. That hotel is mythical. I have been regular guest of Formosa for more than 10 years until COVID, when it was closed forever (the owner escaped to his country without paying debts and even due wages to staff).

    Formosa was my home in Batam. Staff knew me and treated me as a special one. I have had countless adventures in those rooms (just a minor part of them duly reported on ISG)! The smell itself of its corridor is still with me.

    It has been a couple of years that they started some "renovation" of the building, which basically means to dismantle it slowly piece by piece, after all forniture had been removed.

    I took this photo a couple of week ago. Third floor is gone. KTV Alishan is in our memory. My rooms 275/265 are skeletons.
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  2. #1509

    For thrifty travellers

    I have a story that some will like.

    Most commonly, taxi and ojek drivers overcharge foreigners. Savvy travellers know how to pay no more than 30k from Harbour Bay to Nagoya, using Grab or walking outside the gate, instead of the standard 50k with taxi. (I note that the difference is just 2 SGD, but apparently there are many who believe this is worth the hassle). Standard ojek fare is 10k, but with Gojek one can pay just 6k or 7k.

    I am used to pay, without negotiating, 50k to move from HB to my hotel by taxi, and 12k to 15k whenever I take ojek. I keep the small money ready for ojek in my pocket, grouped in folded notes where each set is one ride. I have met countless ojek drivers who have tried to overcharge me (20k or 30k), but without luck.

    Well, last week I met an ojek driver who insisted to carry me for FREE (because "It is a short ride, Bos").

    I have never seen this over the 15 years I have been visiting Batam.

    He did not know how to go from Grand Batam Mall to my hotel in Jodoh. I had to show him the way (turn left, turn right, go straight, .) At arrival, he looked very thankful to me for my patience, because he was not able to carry me without my instructions ("I am new to Batam, Bos") and insisted to not make me pay ("Free! Free!").

    As obvious, I did put 15k in his hands and I rejected his kind offer. Who works must be paid.

  3. #1508
    Quote Originally Posted by BKKguru  [View Original Post]
    Hi, Black Page.
    Thanks for appreciating my reports (from an "idiot").

    However, it is true that many in Batam try to take advantage of the foreigner.

    The other day, I decide to try massage in the "spa" of my hotel (I will not mention, but it is a 4 stars near Jodoh). The sweet girl is pretty (that's why I decided to try, eheh), but moves hands too quickly for a good massage. Near the end, the golden question: do I want massage ALSO THERE?
    Hmmm. Why not? Ah, you want tip. Sure, how much?
    "100 dollars".
    AARRGHH! 1 MILLION RUPIAH??

    I guess that some western man in this hotel in Batam for business meetings just said yes, without knowing the PARADISE that is out of the hotel.

  4. #1507
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPage  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for teaching me then. However, I will keep on aiming at higher market targets than poorest class.
    Sorry for you, if you are so old to look as my dad.
    ISG is full of trolls, but I am glad I had the honor to find one so happy to be on display.
    Hi, Black Page.

    Thanks for your reporting. Good to know about the upscale Grand Dragon.

    You can ignore GG, who is still stuck in the Year 2013.
    He is a STINGY penny pincher, who likes to admonish people who Tip generously.

    GG will get cardiac arrest when he sees the price list at Grand Dragon. LOL!!

    ~BKK

  5. #1506

    Newton

    What is good of Batam is that nothing is easy, but nothing is impossible. Anything can happen, at any time. I just don't know when, and if something happens.

    So, yesterday night I wasted my night until 3am, waiting a beer girl from food court, who promised we would have met after 2am when she'd finished her shift. I was extremely sleepy and dizzy on my bed, but I forced myself to move. At 3:30am the only option is Newton.

    Newton was half empty, few people and nearly no girls available AND interesting (note the logical operator).

    I spotted a group of 30yo-something ladies, out for partying. The one I liked was shaking head, out of the environment. I tried to call her attention, but she was on the clouds. I roam around until 4:30, then I move downstairs for a juice. At 5am, the disco closes. I note that group waiting for Grab. No need to be shy at this time of the day, so I introduce myself with a bare "Anda cantik!"
    They put one of them on a Grab car and the other 4 propose me "Let's go to VIP room!" Said, done. I love when ladies go out with the goal of partying hard until possible.

    At 5:30 we are in the VIP. After all, 500k for 3 hours in a private room is not much. We select the music, order drinks, and turn off lights.

    My lady is a great lady, the type of those I was used to meet at NoName at Old Golden Times. Regular lady who goes out with friends, and is still so new to Batam to be impressed by a bule, just for the sake of exotic. She's HOT, sexy, great lips and big deep eyes, typical Indonesian, and after 1 hour and more obat she forgets her initial shyness, the reluctance to play in a room while there are her friends dancing at the other side. I don't know what the other girls thought about her, after all that they have seen... We started from a polite conversation holding the hand, sitting with good manners, we ended with multiple positions almost completely naked.

    I came back to my hotel at 9am, exhausted. She's a lady I wish I could keep as a friend.

  6. #1505

    Wechat girls

    When you are in Batam, you will be literally overflooded by friend requests, as soon as you enable the "search nearby" function, by profiles displaying photos of perfect Asian or Chinese models, in search of a friend, offering services, massage, etc. They are all obvsiously fake, because behind there are agents with a pool of poor girls, or if single ladies middle age ladies, or even TVs. I advance this obvious remark, because not everyone here may know that.

    Said that, it is NOT completely pointless to have a look. It may be worth to spend some time on that. In the past, I have met some genuine ladies, even a horny one with hijab (report posted years ago). So, the recipe is:
    1) consider only profiles with photos not obviously fake because displaying Miss Singapore;.
    2) consider only profiles with a series of Moments, which look genuinely presenting a real person;.
    3) NEVER invite the person directly to the room after just chatting (someone got a TV in the room, and if you are not super street-smart it will be difficult to expel that out of the door), but: a) videocall first to see the real person; b) meet in the lobby or better in a cafe, before even considering to invite to the room.

    Now what? Yesterday my attention was caught by a profile which passed tests 1) ad 2), except the photos were strongly photoshopped. Well, I thought, in Asia it is normal, so I considered step 3).

    I start chatting, she offers ST for 600k and LT for 1.3M. I tell her "I am going to dinner, so join me there". After some struggle, a lady completely different from the young cutie in the photos shows up at my table. She was fine anyway, gentle and looking honest. She insists to go to my hotel as soon as I finish dinner, and she wants ST with money first, because she has been cheated by many already. That's plausible, however I rebut that my intention is to go to party first, then I will call her later. She leaves and says "ok call me if you want later".

    At this point, I go to Grand Dragon Pub (report below). Then I go back to my hotel and I think to text her, because I feel tired to hunt. She responds immediately, even if it's 2am: "room number please". Even if I got to meet her just 2 hours before, I never do that. So I tell her I will wait in lobby.

    INDONESIA BOLEH!
    ANOTHER GIRL, fattie, sweaty and ugly appears saying "I am XXX" (the name of the girl I thought I met). So, there was no real XXX, the moments were all fake, the profile is by an agent managing a pool of poor girls, who must think I am stupid and I could take the girl 2 without seeing the difference with girl 1. The person on wechat even insists asking what is my problem with this girl. I just send him to hell.

    Good thing I was in the lobby and not in my room. So I simply left the hotel leaving her there, without paying her taxi or what else. She looked very sorry and desperate, to say it all. She is a victim of the system, but I cannot victim too.
    I moved quickly to Newton, and that story is the report below.

    I report this, to warn those who do not know and may be scammed for trusting others too much.

  7. #1504

    Newton

    After leaving Grand Dragon, I moved to Newton. A totally different environment.

    This time, I was so horny after having admired the models at Grand Dragon that I took just 15 minutes to pick and go. I was lucky to find the gem alone at a table, with a glass of wine: a little spinner, typical Jawanese face, round perfect boobs as in photos on a magazine, weighting no more than 45 kg (I know because I took her naked around in my arms more than once). She works as massage therapist far away in the island. The Google reviews of thas spa are very good. I will not go there, too far, but I wish.

    Going to hotel is old style, ahah. I booked a VIP room for 500k, I accepted her gentle request for obat (I stay away from that shit), then super fun in the room with locked door and dugem. Yes, I gave her 1M to close any discussion and just think about having fun. I did! We did! It was special. She's a sweetie. I left her in the room to sleep while waiting for her friend, then I went back to my hotel at 7am.

  8. #1503

    Not for the stingy gentleman

    Paid a visit to Grand Dragon. Upscale place with upscale people. 100% Indonesian yesterday. The prices of the drinks are in line with those of other pubs (cocktails in range 150k to 200k+).

    On a Wednesday night, the dozen of PR girls were mostly available, from beautiful to stunning, sitting with their short skimpy but elegant dresses. If one has no idea how beautiful can be an Indonesian girl, well he should go there and have a look.

    I asked a staff guy about rates, and he told me 1M for sitting and drink together and 4M for booking. To be entirely honest, I wish to confirm that from an independent source. The booking fee at M1 was 3M just last year.

  9. #1502

    Funny.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPage  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for teaching me then. However, I will keep on aiming at higher market targets than poorest class.
    Sorry for you, if you are so old to look as my dad.
    ISG is full of trolls, but I am glad I had the honor to find one so happy to be on display.
    There is no 'higher market' in Batam. Dunno where you think you are exactly but it's not someplace where a girl is paid that kind of money except from idiots. And yes, of course she's a part-timer or semi-pro. She slept with you for pay didn't she? LOL!

  10. #1501

    Pubs

    Until COVID, Square Club was used to be the place to go on Friday and Saturday. Not anymore, sadly. No FLs anymore. Only a dozen of PRs who can drink with you (for a high fee) and rich locals.

    Currently, best pubs to go seem to be F1 and Grand Dragon. I still have to visit Dragon (and report).

    F1 is always packed by any kind of people even on Sunday and Monday. At F1, a beer can costs 85k, a cocktail 150k-200k, a beer jug some 250k, a beer tower some 850k. An interesting option for the after hour (the main pub closed at 4am) is offered by the VIP rooms, which are large enough to host private parties for 6-10 people but are great also for a couple, which cost 300k on weekdays and 500k on weeends (3 hours). Sound system and dimmerable lights from full light down to total dark, bathroom and even a bedroom (with dubious hygiene sheet). I went there on Sunday with my girlfriend (my best friend in Batam, without doubt). We went to a VIP room at 4am to do something less ordinary than playing in the king-size bed at my hotel, and IT WAS A BLAST.

    A note for the stingy gentleman: my friend has upgraded herself to "freelance" in the last 3 months (her words). These last two days she has been busy with an upscale married Indonesian couple, who have set up a large party with others in a resort in Batam to celebrate something. She has been hired as 3rd in the couple for the full two days, to enjoy with him and her. They pay her 2M per day, but this time only 3M (package of two days). There are Indonesian who really like to play! I must admit I feel jealous.

  11. #1500
    Quote Originally Posted by GaijinGigolo  [View Original Post]
    Only 10 years? I was doing Batam while you were likely still in diapers, son. Only an absolute moron, or a Singaporean, pays that kind of price for any girl in Batam. Or anywhere in Indo, as far as I'm concerned. They must see you as a sucker coming a mile away, knowing they can charge you whatever they want. And you're incredibly naive if you think this girl is not 'on the market'. If she was willing to sleep with you, she's most definitely 'on the market. ' LOL, twat.
    Thanks for teaching me then. However, I will keep on aiming at higher market targets than poorest class.
    Sorry for you, if you are so old to look as my dad.
    ISG is full of trolls, but I am glad I had the honor to find one so happy to be on display.

  12. #1499

    Lol

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPage  [View Original Post]
    Yeah, maybe for the old hens you meet at Utama.

    You don't know what you are talking about. I have been playing in Batam for more than 10 years already.

    500 k is for the lowest level of women, a desperate junkie in Newton for a quickie in a room at lower floor, or old hens.

    Today, a pill at disco costs 600 k, a short time at massage places near Utama from 600 k to 900 k, the fee for sitting together with a PR at M1 or Square is near 1 M, and such a PR may accept to go to the hotel with her guest for 2 M to 3 M.

    This girl is like a schoolgirl. A real candy. She's not on the market.
    Only 10 years? I was doing Batam while you were likely still in diapers, son. Only an absolute moron, or a Singaporean, pays that kind of price for any girl in Batam. Or anywhere in Indo, as far as I'm concerned. They must see you as a sucker coming a mile away, knowing they can charge you whatever they want. And you're incredibly naive if you think this girl is not 'on the market'. If she was willing to sleep with you, she's most definitely 'on the market. ' LOL, twat.

  13. #1498
    Quote Originally Posted by GaijinGigolo  [View Original Post]
    You should have told that ignorant girl to go find a "Singaporean people" to give her 2 M then. People like you continue to spoil the market for everyone. 500 k would have been more than generous.
    Yeah, maybe for the old hens you meet at Utama.

    You don't know what you are talking about. I have been playing in Batam for more than 10 years already.

    500 k is for the lowest level of women, a desperate junkie in Newton for a quickie in a room at lower floor, or old hens.

    Today, a pill at disco costs 600 k, a short time at massage places near Utama from 600 k to 900 k, the fee for sitting together with a PR at M1 or Square is near 1 M, and such a PR may accept to go to the hotel with her guest for 2 M to 3 M.

    This girl is like a schoolgirl. A real candy. She's not on the market.

  14. #1497

    2 m?

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPage  [View Original Post]
    Batam is getting better! I was so disappointed during my visit in December. I arrived here 2 days ago and I am already overbooking my time (agree to meet 3 girls in a day) with girls I know from previous visits and new girls met in Newton. 50% of them ghost after promising, so I still have 50% of them to enjoy.

    Newton is not as good as before COVID, but it's getting better. There are more working girls around, and on Friday night I have seen some 2 or 3 interesting enough to consider. On my first night, I spent my time with two young girls who looked polite, nice and cute, with their non-vulgar make up. We danced till 5am, then we moved to a VIP room, the 3 of us. Unfortunately, they were not willing to play all together, but just enjoy after hour. I played then had sex with my girl, while the other was drunk and shaking head alone in the corner. We will meet again, I hope. I came back to my hotel at 8am. Headache all day long.

    Today I called a SYT-looking I met in December to meet me in the morning in my hotel. Not so young - 24yo and freshly divorced - but looking as below 20yo (an Indonesian below 20yo looks as a European 15yo ehehe). She cannot go out at night, because she lives with auntie or something. Guess what, one half naked she was disappointed of my initial offer 500k, because "I never did this, but my friend always does it, and she gets 2M from Singapore people". Finally I gave her 1M. Indeed, worth the experience. Absolutely exciting for me: an unprofessional divorced, who does not know anything about sex (Indonesian men are primitive about that, and girls do not have any better), but eager to try a new experience. The problem was to get free: she wanted to stay with me all day long, but I like to roam free.

    So far, 1 or 2 girls per day. I cannot do more. I am getting old (sad to admit that).
    You should have told that ignorant girl to go find a "Singaporean people" to give her 2 M then. People like you continue to spoil the market for everyone. 500 k would have been more than generous.

  15. #1496

    Getting better

    Batam is getting better! I was so disappointed during my visit in December. I arrived here 2 days ago and I am already overbooking my time (agree to meet 3 girls in a day) with girls I know from previous visits and new girls met in Newton. 50% of them ghost after promising, so I still have 50% of them to enjoy.

    Newton is not as good as before COVID, but it's getting better. There are more working girls around, and on Friday night I have seen some 2 or 3 interesting enough to consider. On my first night, I spent my time with two young girls who looked polite, nice and cute, with their non-vulgar make up. We danced till 5am, then we moved to a VIP room, the 3 of us. Unfortunately, they were not willing to play all together, but just enjoy after hour. I played then had sex with my girl, while the other was drunk and shaking head alone in the corner. We will meet again, I hope. I came back to my hotel at 8am. Headache all day long.

    Today I called a SYT-looking I met in December to meet me in the morning in my hotel. Not so young - 24yo and freshly divorced - but looking as below 20yo (an Indonesian below 20yo looks as a European 15yo ehehe). She cannot go out at night, because she lives with auntie or something. Guess what, one half naked she was disappointed of my initial offer 500k, because "I never did this, but my friend always does it, and she gets 2M from Singapore people". Finally I gave her 1M. Indeed, worth the experience. Absolutely exciting for me: an unprofessional divorced, who does not know anything about sex (Indonesian men are primitive about that, and girls do not have any better), but eager to try a new experience. The problem was to get free: she wanted to stay with me all day long, but I like to roam free.

    So far, 1 or 2 girls per day. I cannot do more. I am getting old (sad to admit that).

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