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  1. #1316
    Quote Originally Posted by Fiz2667  [View Original Post]
    But seems the good Batam times are gone.
    Why? Just because somebody on an internet forum, whom you've never met, told you so? I suggest you find out for yourself. Veracity is fleeting, and the "Debbie downers" always seem to hit me as people who never got more than 50 miles from home. Then again, YMMV. Best wishes and best of luck.

  2. #1315
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPage  [View Original Post]
    A second thing is that it is not so good as years ago, when me "average white foreigner" had virtually no limits in scoring a sexy girl in a club or even in a mall. My Western face and nose were enough to make ladies to feel flattered by my smile to them. Now, too many Western men have spoiled the place already, including those who did not leave a good memory of their education and manners, so to speak.
    A striking consequence is that, if years ago I could approach any girl in a disco and get at least a smile and handshake back, now more than half of them turn the face to the other side (I am speaking about disco, not pub).
    So sad to hear that. I remember, some of the cutest ladies I invited to join me for short trips to Bali, Yogya, etc. And they happily followed me. What a great time I spent in Indonesia. I was always hoping to make sometimes a "revival" trip to Batam and refresh my wonderful memories. But seems the good Batam times are gone.

  3. #1314

    Square Club

    My report of last Saturnight night, supposedly the best night to score freebies in Batam clubs. Unfortunately, the times have changed.

    One thing is that there seems to be more money circulating around, or at least the middle and upper class have expanded, while the lower strata are still struggling in misery.
    Therefore, consistently over all my last visits to Batam, I have seen less ladies (above some social level) hunting for a supposedly rich foreigner in clubs of kampung bule (basically, there only No Name and Foreplay qualify for that, as the others are mostly places where to play billiard and drink with PR ladies).

    A second thing is that it is not so good as years ago, when me "average white foreigner" had virtually no limits in scoring a sexy girl in a club or even in a mall. My Western face and nose were enough to make ladies to feel flattered by my smile to them. Now, too many Western men have spoiled the place already, including those who did not leave a good memory of their education and manners, so to speak.
    A striking consequence is that, if years ago I could approach any girl in a disco and get at least a smile and handshake back, now more than half of them turn the face to the other side (I am speaking about disco, not pub).

    So, yesterday Saturday (I wrote these notes few days ago) I went to No Name, previously the highest highlight of Batam's Saturday night fever. Years ago, at 1am it was so packed to have problems in choosing a stunning girl among many. Yesterday, it was just 50% full, and all ladies were old-seasoned PRs, who go there every night for months in a row if not years. Not even so sexy, just average bar girls. I recognize some faces as I have seen them at least 1 if not 2 years ago there already.

    I spent my effort to discriminate professionals and find possible casual ladies who go out on Saturday to have some fun. I found ONE lady, around 35yo, average looking with the dress of weekend, who was not there to work. Alone, just seeking some entertainment after a week of boring work in office. In brief I decided to invest on her and leave the "disco B plan after 2am" for another day.
    I proposed her to leave that sad place and move to Square.
    She has a big car, and it was a while I was not driven around Batam by a lady on her own car.

    So now, finally, let me go to the topic addressed in the title of this post: SQUARE CLUB at I-Hotel Penuin.

    You must go there at least once on a Saturday. It is instructive indeed. There is some rich people in Batam, but you will not see them if you stick to Nagoya malls, clubs, kampung bule, etc.
    Parking: full of new shiny cars.
    Entry cover ticket: rp 200k per person (yes, 200,000), including one BINTANG BEER as "free drink" (in can, I had to request two glasses otherwise I would have not got that). Yes, the same Bintang beer that is the cheapest drink offered in a disco or billiard bar.
    Maybe the 200k is not for every Saturday, maybe the DJ was a famous one from Jakarta, who knows. However, this is the most expensive cover charge I saw in Batam.

    So, too late to show me stingy in front of the lady, I had to pay this 2x200k = 400k for me and the lady.
    Inside: FULL. I mean packed. Impossible to find place if not pressed from all sides. Everyone paying the 200k cover charge, plus bottles and cocktails in quantity. The average spending there is above 500k per person, I believe.

    Some Western men, but very few. 95% of people were local upper-class youth.
    Jeez!! If you want to see and get to know what is a sexy Indonesian, go there.
    There is NO OTHER PLACE IN BATAM (I am sure in JKT it's a different story) where you can see how sexy Indonesian can be. Long dress, high heels, regrettably short pants under the dress instead of a sexy slip as in Europe, perfectly arranged make-up and hair. I was mesmerized.

    NO, I did not regret to go there with this lady instead of hunting freely. The girls there are not there to hunt for money. They SPEND the money, or better have a boyfriend who does not care about money and spends.
    In short, I know that my chances there approach zero, as I do not look as Brad Pitt and I do not have a Lamborghini parked outside.

    The DJ is on another upper level compared to the clubs in Nagoya. So the ambience and music too. It's a place to visit at least once, unless one really believes that the most expensive places to go in Batam are Bunga and M1 Pub.
    Trust me, I still have some long legs planted on high heels printed in my eyes.

    I know what you naughty mouthwatering old dudes want to know: my lady.
    At 3am, she said she was sleepy, she wanted to go back. So I asked her to drive me back to Formosa, we went to the room, and she kept on saying she wanted to leave because sleepy. No resistance though when I started to unbotton her dress here and there.

    Once naked, she positioned herself with open legs, knee up, and waited with eyes closed. Just that. I proceeded, and the only reaction from her was smiling and some noise. No action. She said she does not like BJs. Then she turned, closed the legs, started to move up and down with my dick inside, had her climax in that odd way, then she patiently waited I had mine.
    Not that she was pretending anything. She really must feel the sex in that way.
    We changed a few positions, then my experience came out in that situation.

    I decided to not come and release my climax, but to keep my bullet and libido level for another lady later. Yes, I had a massage girl fucked at Sweet Massage few hours before, and the number of bullets I have is limited, so I try to save when I can.

    After exchanging phone numbers, I accompanied her to her car at 4am. She told me "YOU WILL NOT HAVE ANOTHER GIRL NOW, RIGHT??"
    To be honest, my time in Batam is short, and why should I refrain?
    I like this lady, because she's a good person and I respect her, but I also want to hunt.
    So, I said no, I waited to see her car leaving the parking, I took an ojek, and at 4:30am I triumphally made my entrance in Newton.

    PS: No happy end. Newton was still full, but mostly couples and groups of friends, as usual on a Saturday. Local girls are not flashed by bule anymore, just because bule. They stick to their friends.
    Working girls at that hour must have been taken already. So, at 5:30am I went back sleeping.

    PPS: Be careful, I found one or two ladyboys there, both in Newton and P3 (different ones). In the darkness, it's easy to be confused and be happy if a tall girl starts smiling at you. If you have some experience, you can detect the typical way of a ladyboy to move, smile, touch the hair, and you should be not fooled before having his/her tongue in your mouth. Good luck.

  4. #1313

    Polis Razia

    Yesterday I had the pleasure to experience de visu the Indonesian Police in action.

    Just 30 minutes after I entered Foreplay in Kampung Bule, and I just started sipping a glass of orange juice with a drop of vodka, a huge anti-narcotics Police task force entered the premises to do drug tests and check people.

    Of course, this is not Texas and policemen are not like in USA. So, instead of putting everyone against the wall with hands raised, pointing automatic rifles against the chest of the slower ones, everything was much smoother. No cowboys, neither emulators of Joseph Arpaio here, but just Indonesian-style smiles. You know, the same face you get regardless you are complaining for something or giving kudos for service in a hotel.

    The main Officer stepped on the stage, stopped the band, and asked kindly to switch on lights ("lampu, lampu tolong"). I did not notice that before then, but about 20 policemen with and without uniform had already entered the room and were filling up all sides.

    Then, other policemen armed with professional photocameras and cellphones started to videorecord all the procedure and to take photos of the people.

    I guess today my face with all others must be posted on local newspapers and must have been already broadcasted on local TV News, as an evidence of how seriously Batam Police fights drugs here*.
    A girl next to me was scared as hell, fearing her face was going to be seen by her parents at home.

    (*I don't think they have ever sold drugs in Foreplay, but as a matter of fact every time I enter P3 or P2 I am literally pestered by a few thugs who stand in front of me expecting I buy obat. I am sorry to disappoint them. Their business seems ok even without me, however, at least judging by the number of people shaking heads with eyes closed.).

    Everything took less than 30 minutes, and I am not kidding it was done in an extremely professional way (I hope they will not post faces on TV news. I don't care, but others may). Female Officers searched the bags of some random girls. Other people was asked to peeee (will this pass this damn ISG censorship?) in test bottles, I think, because in front of all videocameras like playing a movie scene the officers started to check with a chemical test set some liquids in 4 small plastic glasses.

    Everything, everything done with smiles and very kind attitude by all police officers. This is Indonesia, not USA, so instead of fearing a shot in my chest, should I do anything unexpected, I had the feeling that they were going to offer flowers to ladies and other gifts to guys once finished.

    Regrettably, no flowers for me or the ladies. Just a big "thank you" to everyone for the collaboration, smiles at 360, and even an applause to our beloved police when they left the room.

    Then, business as usual. Music restarted and sexy dancers jumped on stage.

    I love Indonesia. Did I say that already?

  5. #1312
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPage  [View Original Post]
    What you mean with " instead of going through all this"? In my last paragraph "The Good News", I explained that it's now easy to buy a preregistered card on arrival in Harbour Bay and forget all hassle.
    Did not get that far. I know the erstwhile lengthy procedure of registering a SIM card. Hence my comment of "instead of going through all this".

    Now that you mention pre-registered SIM cards, it just makes things easier I guess.

  6. #1311
    Quote Originally Posted by Blanquiceleste  [View Original Post]
    Thank you for the update. But really, instead of going through all this, (ASSUMING ONE IS TRAVELLING TO BATAM FROM SINGAPORE) it is easier to get a Starhub or Singtel pre-paid which comes with an option of free data roaming in Batam. Sure, you need to register the SIM card in Singapore too, but that is easier and less questionable that getting a SIM card in Batam, especially for those who want to makea discrete side-trip from Singapore.
    Nearly everyone is travelling to Batam from Singapore, but not everyone lives in Singapore and travels to Batam for a weekend of relax to ease his Singaporean work stress. I travel from Europe, I go to KL (it could be anywhere), and I simply transit in Singapore on my way to Batam.

    I don't understand what you mean with "questionable" and "discrete". What is not discrete in buying a SIM card in Batam, and register it or not? I am perplexed.

    By the way, your passport is stamped every time you cross the border. So, if you want to keep your travels to Batam hidden to your most significant one, having a Simpati card in the wallet is the least and last of your problems.

    Finally, last time I was in Singapore for a week I bought a Starhub card. Once I activated it for roaming, I discovered I had only 2 GB (enough in most cases, but less than the 6 GB I have on the Simpati card), and most important it did not work anymore once I returned to Singapore. It seemed a one-way step.

    My advice is to simply spend those Rp 120k (12 SGD, or 8 USD), buy a pre-registered Simpati card including 6 GB of data on 4G LTE, and enjoy 20 Mbps without hassle.

    What you mean with " instead of going through all this"? In my last paragraph "The Good News", I explained that it's now easy to buy a preregistered card on arrival in Harbour Bay and forget all hassle.

  7. #1310
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPage  [View Original Post]
    An update for all those who plan to come to Batam and need a SIM card.

    The lengthy procedure for registering SIM cards In Indonesia, mandatory for using them without any grace period, is still in place (see my previous posts for details). When you buy a new SIM card, you MUST register it, providing your Indonesian ID number or Passport number if you are foreigner, or the SIM card cannot be activated. I asked several people in various shops, and all confirmed me the same.
    Thank you for the update. But really, instead of going through all this, (ASSUMING ONE IS TRAVELLING TO BATAM FROM SINGAPORE) it is easier to get a Starhub or Singtel pre-paid which comes with an option of free data roaming in Batam. Sure, you need to register the SIM card in Singapore too, but that is easier and less questionable that getting a SIM card in Batam, especially for those who want to makea discrete side-trip from Singapore.

  8. #1309

    SIM cards

    An update for all those who plan to come to Batam and need a SIM card.

    The lengthy procedure for registering SIM cards In Indonesia, mandatory for using them without any grace period, is still in place (see my previous posts for details). When you buy a new SIM card, you MUST register it, providing your Indonesian ID number or Passport number if you are foreigner, or the SIM card cannot be activated. I asked several people in various shops, and all confirmed me the same.

    In the next lines, I will focus on Simpati cards, as they are the most widely used and maybe also the best performing.


    1) Those who have an Indo ID (NIK, NOKK) can register sending a message: "UNTUK REGISTRASI SILAHKAN KETIK *444*NIK*NOKK#".

    An employee at the TelKomSel Service Center told me that this can done also by a foreigner, sending the passport number instead of the NIK, but I doubt it may work. Should it really work, it would mean that the system accepts a registration giving any random number, as I doubt the system can check the existance and regularity of a passport number of foreign countries.
    I did not try this simple way, and later I will explain why.


    2) Those foreigners who do not have an Indo ID can register ONLY going to a Grapari Service Center of TelKomSel Customer Care. There is one at Nagoya Hill, another one at Penuin, at Batam Center, etc.

    Assuming the *444* message cannot work with a foreign country passport, there is no other service center other than Grapari which can register the card under a foreign passport number. The shops cannot, even the big ones, not to say the small kiosks.

    This is pissing off enough, and that is the same situation I reported in May 2018, but there's a good news now. The INDONESIA BOLEH Task Force has developed suitable antibodies.

    The Good News

    Many small shops are now selling pre-registered SIM cards. All such shops include all those small counters recently opened at the Harbour Bay arrival lounge, which you see right after the immigration and security screening, and a few ones at Lucky Plaza.

    I tried to understand what are those pre-registered SIM cards, and under what name are they registered, but I received only Indonesian-style smiles back. Someone tried to say "It's TelkomSel which preregister cards", but of course it could not be exactly that, as the reason of imposing registration was to associate each card to a precise physical person, for security purposes. I think someone is pre-registering cards using random NIK-NOKK numbers.

    This is a BIG RELIEF for all those like me, who visit Indonesia for few days, and would be not really happy to have to spend 1-2 hours, after buying the SIM card, to reach a Grapari point and queue just for this burocratic requirement.

    At Harbour Bay Arrival right after Immigration, I chose the counter with the nicest smiling girl (a business criterion as others).
    I found the pre-registered Simpati cards for 4G LTE data access sold for 150k (9 GB one month) or 120k (6 GB). I bought the second, without inquiring other shops to find a better offer because I was in hurry. Being in hurry made me probably miss the best deal, but I really had no time to spend to save 20k
    Also SIM cards of other operators are on sale, cheaper down up to 50k for 3G access, but I preferred to opt for the best. I tried the speed transfer and I achieved 20 Mb/s via my mobile wifi router.
    A signage on top of the glass showcase of another counter advertises cards with 3GB data for Rp 80k (I don't remember what Operator).

    The shop at Harbour Bay was not sellng cheaper SIM cards for phone calls. I went to Lucky Plaza, where after few inquiries I found a shop selling pre-registered Simpati cards for phone calls (the "pre-registered" feature is the key feature and is not offered everywhere). I could choose between cards costing 75k including 10k of balance, but not pre-registered, and pre-registered cards costing 75k but with 0 balance. I bought this one and I added 20k balance (plus 2k service charge, total 97k).

  9. #1308
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPage  [View Original Post]
    I forgot there's also Delta Spa. Expensive and questioned by some, but appreciated by others.
    I apologize for the repeated incremental postings, but I just read on another forum about another spa, which I know but I totally forgot when I wrote my previous posts: New Spa at Batam City Hotel.

    Again, Delta Spa is expensive and questioned by some, but appreciated by others. I guess YMMV. I suggest to avoid.

    Atalanta and Octopus have a good reputation instead. I went once to Octopus, and it was perfect but not what I seek in Batam: very good service by a very pretty young girl in a clean good room, but overall a very mechanical SOP.

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Page  [View Original Post]
    What I have never heard about is the places that you asked about (First Choice spa, MyIndoThai, Fame spa). And if I have never heard about them, there must be a reason. Either secret goldmines that nobody know, either nothing interesting for the average reader of ISG
    I see you have asked the same question on SB, and there you got more or less the same response I gave you, that is "If i were to reply to your exact question word by word,my answer would be "there is NO men's spa" near BCS". However, Mr. Nono (a real expert, as he goes there every 1-2 months from Singapore) also pointed you to New Spa and Fame Spa, this mentioned as a new location, very expensive and quite far away. Try and report!

  10. #1307
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPage  [View Original Post]
    NO. The only acceptable spas in Batam are maybe Octopus and Atalanta (near Harbour Bay). (I keep this simple to make it understandable)
    See my reports here for details about more opportunities besides a spa.
    I forgot there's also Delta Spa. Expensive and questioned by some, but appreciated by others.

    Please note that I have never been in any of those 3 places, except one time at Octopus, as that kind of places are not "my cup of tea" in Batam. If one seeks the "spa experience", should go somewhere else.

  11. #1306

    Good news

    I have 3 good news. The first two are good just for me. The third for everyone interested to go to Batam.

    1) I will be back on site in October. My mouth is watering already. Stay tuned.

    2) My Formosa Membership Card is now Silver. Quite an achievement for someone who lives 10,000 km away! Ok, not the same as SPG Elite, but I feel proud. The good news is that I achieved my first free night with points. In October my bill will be lighter.

    3) I heard a couple of people saying that now the SIM card registration at Grapari for foreigners is not necessary anymore, or was made simpler. I will find out once on site and report here, as always.

  12. #1305
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPage  [View Original Post]
    NO. The only acceptable spas in Batam are maybe Octopus and Atalanta (near Harbour Bay). (I keep this simple to make it understandable)
    See my reports here for details about more opportunities besides a spa.
    I think there may be some confusion in terminology here. You are absolutely right BP that only Octopuss and Atalanta would qualify as a SPA in its pure definition.

    I get a sense that the board member is referring to common massage parlors, which sometimes call themselves spas. LOL.

  13. #1304
    Quote Originally Posted by FlirtingWtGirl  [View Original Post]
    I don't see your point, anyway for the benefit of other members do you know any spa near BCS mall since you are familiar with it?
    NO. The only acceptable spas in Batam are maybe Octopus and Atalanta (near Harbour Bay). (I keep this simple to make it understandable)
    See my reports here for details about more opportunities besides a spa.

  14. #1303
    Quote Originally Posted by FlirtingWtGirl  [View Original Post]
    Never heard about it? It's one of the main mall in Batam http://www.welcometobatam.com/batam-...-bcs-mall.html.

    If you never heard about it, yes you are right it tells us a lot.
    Ask him to post some photos of his passport stamps at Batam. Since he has been there so many times, I'm sure he has a passport full of them to show us.

  15. #1302
    I don't see your point, anyway for the benefit of other members do you know any spa near BCS mall since you are familiar with it?

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPage  [View Original Post]
    A first time poster, new account, pretending to misunderstand an obvious reply and trying to raise a pointless discussion.

    As obvious, not only I know BCS Mall, but I have spent many full afternoons there hunting for ladies (first time 9 years ago). It's also in the middle of the area with cheap massage places. From the Height of your 2 posts, you are attempting to lecture the wrong person about Batam.

    What I have never heard about is the places that you asked about (First Choice spa, MyIndoThai, Fame spa). And if I have never heard about them, there must be a reason. Either secret goldmines that nobody know, either nothing interesting for the average reader of ISG (If you don't like my answer to your question, I repeat this anyway for the benefit of other members who may go to Batam).

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