Jakarta

[Werqweq]

Hi fellas, so I decided I will take one for the team (just joking) and went to checkout Maxwell yesterday, review follows:
I knew I could see a window so I pressed on the issue, but then he took me to the billing counter and again I saw the same bill, again some discussions to and fro, then he said bill already generated and he cannot reverse entry in the system, I said really!! Asked him for a final time if he wants me to pay the whole bill or will he make some adjustment, I was ready to give up and go out by this time, meanwhile they had some discussion the mama and the manager and they offered a fix for me to take another girl within the same bill, I said ok that sounds like a fair fix so got the cavalry out again chose a girl who was smiling from the beginning but wasn't a stunner (nobody in the lineup was), so up we go again.

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mama also asked me on Whatsapp if this ladies was good, I confirmed and said thank you for the fix, she apologized for earlier issue, I said no problem and left for the night.

Excellently handled.

While I might have gotten a refund once or twice in a similar situation (and sometimes not got anything at all, simply being out of pocket for it all), the best one can normally hope for, once things have progressed to that point with the girl, is exactly what you got: a different girl. Aim for a refund, expect to get a different girl instead, and you both will feel somewhat ok about it after the negotiation. Also sends a clear message to the first girl.
In those situations, I'd probably tip the mama or manager something too, as they could have just left me high and dry. That will help them remember me, and also give me some extra goodwill from them next time.

Very interesting to read about these places that don't have many recent reports about them, from you, XXL, and others. Lets me know if I should just stick to Classic and Emporivum on my next trip, or if there are other places worth trying too.

[ArnoldNe]

I was having an urge for getting a good massage and was checking some options out at late hours, unfortunately I was trying to find options at 11 pm and thought most shops would be closed by then, when searching on gmaps, I found several home massage options which are open 24 hrs (all for home/hotel room service), I chatted with them on Whatsapp and rates start from 200 k / 2 hours, but they don't have any locations, the website etc, is just an intermediary, interestingly enough they also offered me an ultra sensual massage option for 850 k for 2 hours, I don't prefer calling anyone to my hotel but if anyone is interested in such a service, knock yourself out, they also share pics of the therapist on Whatsapp, so it should give you an idea of what to expect. Link: https://massageoilhomespa.com/.

[ArnoldNe]

Hi fellas, so I decided I will take one for the team (just joking) and went to checkout Maxwell yesterday, review follows:

Yesterday I went to try out Maxwell, it is a posh setup, good facilities the lounge area is small but good, girl choices were also limited to approx. 7 and most were not that attractive, anyways I picked one out of the line-up after spending some time with my beer, mama Angel never left my side and just waited for me to choose, girl I chose was distant from the beginning and the moment I sat down girl waiter jumped out of nowhere for girl drink order, I thought order something light but her drink turned out to be 300 k later in the bill, price for the girl was 550 k and this included 40 minutes of bar sitting and drinking time + 1. 5 hours in the bedroom, it is a good deal if the girls were prettier or more options were available and if you can simply chuck the girl drink (which is ridiculously priced, or she intentionally ordered a cocktail), so after killing some time with the drinks we went upstairs.

I was getting some very cold vibes from the girl, but hoped she will open up once in the room, while I changed out of my clothes she was already done with the shower and expected me to take one alone, but I insisted that the joined (she obliged), after the bath once we were on the bed, we started with some kissing, she disconnected immediately, I said ok and moved on to her neck which she just shrugged off, I took some time with her boobs and when started moving downwards she started twitching and said no, no. I thought she is warming up but no she just wanted me to stop. I saw where this was heading and stopped immediately, told her if she didn't want to come why didn't she say no downstairs, she asked for translate, I handed over the phone and told her that I don't like the way things are going, you are just saying no to everything, why waste my time if you are not comfortable. To all this her only response was 'Mama will scold if we go out now' (this showed she has no remorse for how she is behaving and won't do anything to fix the situation, only concern was for saving her own ass), this was end of the line for me, I started dressing up, said I will talk with mama, gathered all my gear and just closed the door behind me while she went for another shower.

My preference was to get my money back or at least some reduction in the girl price for this abyssmal experience, BTW the guy in the lobby was funny and we had some good laughs even though we didn't understand a word the other one spoke. I went down took mama outside the room to explain the situation, I tried hard not to throw her under the bus, but it wasn't a conversation that would have happened without that, I explained her the situation and asked her of how do we resolve this situation, she thought for a while and then mentioned that I will have to pay the bill, I said I don't mind paying the bill even though the girl didn't confirm before buying an expensive coctail, but she needs to make some adjustment in the girl bill, then she called her manager who spoke a decent amount of english, I spoke with the guy for some time and asked him to just make some adjustment in the bill (920 k) as a gesture of good will and to compliment wasting my time, he was in between yes and no, I knew I could see a window so I pressed on the issue, but then he took me to the billing counter and again I saw the same bill, again some discussions to and fro, then he said bill already generated and he cannot reverse entry in the system, I said really!! Asked him for a final time if he wants me to pay the whole bill or will he make some adjustment, I was ready to give up and go out by this time, meanwhile they had some discussion the mama and the manager and they offered a fix for me to take another girl within the same bill, I said ok that sounds like a fair fix so got the cavalry out again chose a girl who was smiling from the beginning but wasn't a stunner (nobody in the lineup was), so up we go again.

BTW the rooms at Maxwell are top notch, they are very spacious have a TV running, bathroom is equipped with a bathtub, bed is pretty big. It is a cozy setup. This girl was very good in comparison, we took bath, she had some weird marks on her back (from neck till her ass in shape of bone outlines like somebody had beat her up) but she mentioned it is some Indonesian therapy. She was very nice in the sack, good 15-20 minutes DFK, did CBJ in a very submissive deepthroat position while I played with her V, didn't DATY her (wasn't that attracted to her), but she was good in service, fucked in 3 positions, had exit showers. I tipped her 50 k and she said more money? I just laughed it off and said ya ya everybody wants more money honey, now take a hike! LOL, but it she was a very good fix for the whole debacle earlier, mama also asked me on Whatsapp if this ladies was good, I confirmed and said thank you for the fix, she apologized for earlier issue, I said no problem and left for the night.

[ArnoldNe]

Different dosages. Within 72 hours is a double dose (200 mg). This is for use after sex by those not taking it daily.

Daily is 100 mg.

Noted bro.

[Werqweq]

I am just doing it as an additional precaution, so far I hadn't even used Doxy, I don't have unprotected sex anyways except for DFK and DATY (which are relatively low risk activities), the best way to stay safe of course is not have sex at all LOL, but that being said these activities always come with a certain amount of risk but that ofc can also be true of any sexual encounter, all you can do is stay as safe as possible without taking unnecessary risks. Science these days makes one argument one day and next day they will say something else about their own argument ('all under the name of Research shows this / that' bottomline if they have something definitive then we will be the first ones to know but unfortunately there is no silver bullet that prevents it all. Taking too many antibiotics in short amount of time will lead to bad stuff that will come with a 100% certainty (like impact on your liver) so I avoid dosing myself with too much of that stuff.

Just read this:

'Recent research shows that taking doxycycline within 3 days (or 72 hours) after sex can help some people reduce the chances of getting syphilis, chlamydia, and, in some studies, gonorrhea. This prevention strategy is called doxy PEP. '.

You think this is a definitive statement?

I have taken my cue with a pinch of salt from one of such websites as you had shared even on the links that you shared, see what is the key highlight:

'Taking the antibiotic doxycycline within 72 hours after sex can help some people reduce the chances of getting sexually transmitted infections (STI). This is called "doxy PEP. '.

If I take this statement as a baseline, why take one everyday? 72 hours is a good enough window isn't it?

Different dosages. Within 72 hours is a double dose (200 mg). This is for use after sex by those not taking it daily.

Daily is 100 mg.

[ArnoldNe]

I would like to be corrected if I'm wrong, but afaik, the current consensus is one of these:

a) 200mg as soon as possible after unprotected sex (as a PEP, post exposure / after sex). Repeat after 24 hours if having had unprotected sex again since the last time you took doxycycline.

Reference: https://www.cdc.gov/sti/prevention/d...n%20 a%20 day.

b) 100mg every 24 hours (as a PrEP, pre exposure / before sex). A less researched alternative, though tests seem to indicate it is no less effective than a).

Reference: Bottom of https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/73/rr/rr7302a1.htm, plus various other smaller sites.

I'm not aware of any 100mg every 48 hours regime.

I am just doing it as an additional precaution, so far I hadn't even used Doxy, I don't have unprotected sex anyways except for DFK and DATY (which are relatively low risk activities), the best way to stay safe of course is not have sex at all LOL, but that being said these activities always come with a certain amount of risk but that ofc can also be true of any sexual encounter, all you can do is stay as safe as possible without taking unnecessary risks. Science these days makes one argument one day and next day they will say something else about their own argument ('all under the name of Research shows this / that' bottomline if they have something definitive then we will be the first ones to know but unfortunately there is no silver bullet that prevents it all. Taking too many antibiotics in short amount of time will lead to bad stuff that will come with a 100% certainty (like impact on your liver) so I avoid dosing myself with too much of that stuff.

Just read this:

'Recent research shows that taking doxycycline within 3 days (or 72 hours) after sex can help some people reduce the chances of getting syphilis, chlamydia, and, in some studies, gonorrhea. This prevention strategy is called doxy PEP. '.

You think this is a definitive statement?

I have taken my cue with a pinch of salt from one of such websites as you had shared even on the links that you shared, see what is the key highlight:

'Taking the antibiotic doxycycline within 72 hours after sex can help some people reduce the chances of getting sexually transmitted infections (STI). This is called "doxy PEP. '.

If I take this statement as a baseline, why take one everyday? 72 hours is a good enough window isn't it?

[Safado70]

This doggy problem in Jakarta is crazy.

I had 5 (girls that said they didn't like it and / or were really bad at it.

What's going on here?

[XXL]

In spite of Malioboro being 800 m as the crow flies from my hotel, it took the taxi 50 minutes to get there. The driver kept straying from the itinerary, not sure he knew what he was doing. Lesson: in Jakarta don't swallow your viagra before setting out, it may have ceased to work by the time you take a girl to the room.

No NFC payment at Malioboro's. This alone for me would justify not coming back. I expect high-end (expensive) venues to do NFC payments.

I settled for a girl who warmed up to me as soon as I set eyes on her. I took her straight to the room. I needed my coffein shot so I asked for a coke to be brought to the room. Without consulting me they asked the girl what she wanted to drink and added 150 k to the bill.

Once naked the girl turned out to have not such a great figure. Oddly she was good at blowjobs (BBBJ no questions asked) but she couldn't do doggystyle, something that doesn't surprise me in Jakarta any more by now. From my heroic days in Jakarta I don't even remember coming across a single girl who couldn't do doggy. Did they pass a law?

All Malioboro staff - every last one of them except the cashier girls - expected a tip from me. Even the security guard outside kept pestering me while I was waiting for my ride home.

The only positive thing about Malioboro was the spacious well-appointed room. Otherwise the line-up didn't strike me as any better than in the cheap joints.

From now on I'm going to stick to Emporium for my high-end (expensive) sessions. Otherwise I'll do cheap sessions in places like Classic and Kota Indah, never mind if I have to try out several girls before hitting on one who delivers. Yesterday's experience at 1001 and today's at Malioboro have shown me that expensive places can also be hit and miss. Hit and miss at cheap venues doesn't break the bank. Hit and miss at expensive venues hurts.

I wonder what day of the week would be best to visit BATS? I don't want the place to be dead, on the other hand I'd rather avoid a sausage fest.

[Werqweq]

CBJ was my idea.

I am also taking Doxy 100 MG every 2 days apart to avoid any bacterial infections

I would like to be corrected if I'm wrong, but afaik, the current consensus is one of these:

a) 200mg as soon as possible after unprotected sex (as a PEP, post exposure / after sex). Repeat after 24 hours if having had unprotected sex again since the last time you took doxycycline.

Reference: https://www.cdc.gov/sti/prevention/d...n%20 a%20 day.

b) 100mg every 24 hours (as a PrEP, pre exposure / before sex). A less researched alternative, though tests seem to indicate it is no less effective than a).

Reference: Bottom of https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/73/rr/rr7302a1.htm, plus various other smaller sites.

I'm not aware of any 100mg every 48 hours regime.

[Safado70]

Thanks for explaining Arnold, I understand your reasoning.

Actually, By this logic, BBBJ is safer than DATY for the girls. I will use your argument next time a girl refuses BBBJ after having received DATY, which sadly enough, has happened to me a few times.

[ArnoldNe]

It should be noted that there's a FASHION hotel northeast of MONAS and a be-FASHION hotel west of monas. I thought be-FASHION was better than FASHION, but you'll find a few posts where I've had several bad results from be-FASHION that I may have banned them from my rotation. Be-FASHION is near Taman Anggrek Mall and Central Park Mall. The malls are right next to each other but they couldn't be more different from each other.

Yes, I have been to Taman Anggrek mall yesterday only and it is pretty far from where I am staying, so I can confirm that I have been to Fashion hotel only not B / be-fashion, as fashion hotel is very close from my hotel, I have shared ample description for anyone to differentiate and not be confused. I have never been to B or be fashion, went to Taman angrekk yesterday just for shopping, I saw Central Park next to it also, never been in that area for mongering.

[ArnoldNe]

ArnoldNE.

About the CIS girl, the covered BJ was your idea, not hers, right?

And I hope it's okay to ask a sexual health question in this thread: what's the point in asking for a covered BJ if you DATY anyway? You have way more mucous membrane in your mouth than you have on your dick.

CBJ was my idea.

Why CBJ? And then do DATY, we all have our personal style of doing things, and I believe that it is hard to know if a girl has a open sore or cut in her mouth and hence doing BBJ is like going in blind, whereas when it comes to DATY I know my mouth does not have any open sores / cuts, If I do then I don't perform DATY or avoid sex with a working girl altogether. I also clean my mouth with Listerine blue (contains alcohol) after the act, and usually have some form of alcohol (beer etc, before the act also) and just to be on safer side I am also taking Doxy 100 MG every 2 days apart to avoid any bacterial infections, this is new for me and it is a precaution that I picked up from Gabacho's posts.

These are just personal practices and I haven't come across any STI / DS over past 20+ years of mongering, but a feedback on improvement is always welcome.

[Safado70]

ArnoldNE.

About the CIS girl, the covered BJ was your idea, not hers, right?

And I hope it's okay to ask a sexual health question in this thread: what's the point in asking for a covered BJ if you DATY anyway? You have way more mucous membrane in your mouth than you have on your dick.

[BenderOver]

As names mentioned by some members, I did lookup fashion hotel mentioned in some threads, so decided to check it out before I went to Classic, review below:

1. Fashion Hotel:

It should be noted that there's a FASHION hotel northeast of MONAS and a be-FASHION hotel west of monas. I thought be-FASHION was better than FASHION, but you'll find a few posts where I've had several bad results from be-FASHION that I may have banned them from my rotation. Be-FASHION is near Taman Anggrek Mall and Central Park Mall. The malls are right next to each other but they couldn't be more different from each other.

[Axel Heyst]

Arnold, glad you had a good time, but the place you are describing is Malioboro Lounge eg you entered the building through the first door on your right as you walked down the driveway and the lounge was on the 2nd floor. The outside entrance to Malio Club is through the 2nd door on your right further down the driveway and to be absolutely clear, Malio Club IS on the ground floor.

Both bordellos are great and worth checking out. The protocol as you posted is that as soon as you enter the building from either entrance customers are given a numbered ID bracelet which works in both bordellos and to which ALL subsequent charges are posted. You pay your tab before leaving the building.

Now once inside the building you can travel from Malio to Malioboro by taking the Malio elevator up to the 3rd floor and walking down the hotel hallway with rooms on either side and then following a grand staircase one floor down to Malioboro Lounge or reverse this path to go the other way. You won't get lost. There is always some hotel staff to point the way. 555.

Malioboro vs. Malio:

Malioboro has a bar and attractive Indonesian dancers. Malio has a bar and attractive Indonesian dancers. I think there are more dancers in Malio, but I have had great times with smoking hot dancers from both locations. The dancers are the top of the Malioboro / Malio pyramid. Now some of the differences: Malioboro has two levels, the mezzanine level from which you enter and the lower level with many, many more mamasan managed girls of varied national origins including several tables or seating arrangements with Indonesian girls. Each table or seating arrangement features girls of different country origins. I have sampled the Indonesian mamasan managed girls whom I highly recommend, but I have also sampled a couple of Chinese mamasan girls and one time an Asian looking Kazakstani mamasan mananged girl. (A 1st).

Malio Club has mamasan managed girls as well, but far, far fewer. I call them couch girls, and incidentally Malio Club does not have any mamasan managed foreign girls. Malio also has a mezzanine, but it is reserved for BJ sessions with the dancers. So, like I said, both bordellos are pretty great IMHO. If you want a foreign girl or some late night dinner then Malioboro is where to go. Malio Club has more dancers suggesting more lookers, but this is not always the case. And Malioboro Lounge has many more mamasan managed girls (couch girls) of various national origins. Personally, I slightly prefer Malio over Malioboro and I usually start my nights entertainment in Malio around 9 pm. But if I don't see what I like or I am looking for more action after my 1st girl, I will follow the labyrinth described above to check out the other bar and vice-versa.

P.S. The internal route is the only way to check out both clubs without having to pay two separate cover charges. All of the mamasan managed girls are pre-priced. There is no negotiation. The Indonesian mamasan managed girls have a two-tiered pricing system depending on who knows what. Local demand? I don't know. With the dancers there is room for a little price negotiation with the girl during the audition and before you commit. What you pay a dancer varies depending on how busy the place is, whether the girl likes you or not, and what she thinks her price should be. I have been offered various prices from the dancers and sometimes there is as much as a 1000 k price difference between 2 dancers. Wow!

1. Malio:

I went in slightly early as I wanted to do some shopping today as well, so at 6-6. 30 pm I took the wrist band and as per the experience before I tried to get to the club in the adjacent building, but numerous watchmen and lift boys told me that club opens at 8 pm, I went back to the ground floor tried to return the badge stating that there is nothing for me to do, they advised me to check out floor 2 which is a lounge / restaurant and there is also a sauna on floor 1, following this advise I went to floor 2 in the lounge area, I thought I was just entering a restaurant to kill some time but to my surprise a mama followed me and asked me about ladies, I also saw the CIS chicks available