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  1. #17797
    Thanks for your report!

    I am certainly not the tip police. You can tip what you want. But I am not following your tipping logic at all. Tip 350 K for a negotiated BBBJ and DFK for 20 minutes versus 200 K for a lady that fucked your brains out all night, did everything you wanted and you had for 3 rounds? Seems like you overpaid for standard service and underpaid for good service. But as they say. Up to you.

    BBBJs should be standard fare and included. (Maybe not for threesomes. which I never do. The ladies may not want to suck on the other's spit.) But any solo room with an Indonesian lady should be BBBJ. You shouldn't have to negotiate for it. DFK is harder to come by. But that is where some soft people skills and overall chemistry can come in handy. I think by asking for a BBBJ, you show your hand as a newbie that doesn't know the standard service.

    Finally, navigating the mamasans is tricky at first. They see foreigners as an easy mark and will continue to show you ladies until you choose one so they get their commission. She is financially incentivized for you to take a lady and she wants to get paid. Stand your ground if you are not ready or don't like the selection. You are the boss. Not the mama. Sometimes you have to be quite firm and direct with them. Don't be afraid of this if they keep pestering you. Learning some Indonesian, even if the grammar is not 100% accurate is helpful here.

    Just a simple "tidak mau cewek sekarang" would suffice. "Don't want lady now."


    Quote Originally Posted by Krishnan2  [View Original Post]
    I recently went to Jakarta from 17-18th may. Thanks to all the member I had a great trip. This trip is more about exploring different options. Here's the full report.

    In the room I told her exactly what I wanted DFK and BBBJ. She quoted me 500 k tip, I negotiated down to 300 k and after taking shower we went to bed. The service was really great, she did everything I asked and took things slow. I was finished in less than 20 minutes. I tipped her 350 k as I was really happy.

    I negotiated it to 3 M and I immediately took here to my hotel. Man, she was all over me in the cab and lift. It was one hell of a night. I didn't have to ask for anything, it included everything except BBFS. She was feisty in bed. We went to 2 rounds and 1 round in the morning. She left around 10 am. I gave have 200 k tip. I then slept.

  2. #17796
    On the other side of the KI horseshoe there are several "pricier" places. Mega Ayu has ladies that start at 800 K. Across from Mega is Hotel Royal VIP. I believe that is the place the poster is referring to. Not Royal next to LA Bar. There is also V Four in the front of the horseshoe that has tiered pricing from 400 K, 800 K and 900 K. The picture of the place he is talking about is below. Opened last year around September I think.

    Quote Originally Posted by JSmithJ88  [View Original Post]
    LOL, nobody forced you to do anything. You just allowed yourself to be bullied.
    You went to new royal in KOTA?
    Fellow BM can correct me, the prices in KOTA should only be 400 k for ST and 800 K for 3 hours at your hotel.
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  3. #17795
    Quote Originally Posted by Krishnan2  [View Original Post]
    I choose 2 of them and she FORCED me to go to the room.....
    I gave 50 k each but FORCED me to gave 50 k more.....
    if you come back to lobby then they will again FORCE you go with the girl....

    So, I left and went to new royal bar.
    The price was 900 k and 1. 1 M....
    Then indri came and offered me 4 M if I want to take the girl with me for whole night. I don't know what took me, I really wanted to have a night with her, I negotiated it to 3 M
    She left around 10 am. I gave have 200 k tip. I then slept.
    Enjoy!!
    LOL, nobody forced you to do anything. You just allowed yourself to be bullied.
    You went to new royal in KOTA?
    Fellow BM can correct me, the prices in KOTA should only be 400 k for ST and 800 K for 3 hours at your hotel.

  4. #17794
    Quote Originally Posted by Krishnan2  [View Original Post]
    I recently went to Jakarta from 17-18th may. Thanks to all the member I had a great trip. This trip is more about exploring different options. Here's the full report.
    What a great first post! Not asking for easy to find info. Not commenting on others report. Just a detailed account of his experiences. Bravo. Newbies please read and learn.

    Just one comment on Classic and being rushed. You can take your time in the bar, get a drink and sit with a girl. If the girl the mama is pushing doesn't do that, send her back and choose another. You have to realize that you are in charge and there are more girls than customers at any given time. Just be firm and you will get the service and experience you want. Same goes in the room. If you politely and firmly set the tone of what you expect, and offer a reasonable tip (not as high as you paid, although you did okay as a first timer) you will most often get what you want.

    Anyway, great report and glad you enjoyed!

  5. #17793

    Full report

    I recently went to Jakarta from 17-18th may. Thanks to all the member I had a great trip. This trip is more about exploring different options. Here's the full report.

    Day 1.

    My flight landed around 1 pm. I took the cab to my hotel, Holiday inn Gajah Mada. There is some construction work going just outside the hotel but the traffic seems ok. I took the shower and went to classic around 7:30. Just after I entered one mama forced me to sit on the table and showed me card stating 365 k for one girl and 500 k for two girls. I never had threesome before so I thought I would try 2 girls even after bad reviews here, then she immediately called around 15 girls. I choose 2 of them and she forced me to go to the room. I asked her to wait for some time so she left but came back after every 2 minute. We then went to room, then service was rushed then didn't agree to DFK and BBBJ. Even I have to wash and change condom when switching girls. Overall my experience was not good, wouldn't recommend anyone to take 2 girls in classic. After the deed girls asked me for tip initially I gave 50 k each but forced me to gave 50 k more. I then came back to lobby and as I walked I was not able to find any other interesting girls. This girls are classic were old, so I left. I had dinner downstairs, the food was great. I then went to travel. In travel the way things work is exactly same as classic. But the prices were 375 k for one girl and 510 k for two girls. I specifically asked mama not to rush me, she then asked me my preferences and called around 6 girls which were exactly what I wanted, young, slim body and big boobs. I choose one and she was so hot I immediately went to the room with her. In the room I told her exactly what I wanted DFK and BBBJ. She quoted me 500 k tip, I negotiated down to 300 k and after taking shower we went to bed. The service was really great, she did everything I asked and took things slow. I was finished in less than 20 minutes. I tipped her 350 k as I was really happy. I was now really tired and wanted to enjoy beer with some good music. One thing to note about classic and travel is that they don't let you sit idle, if you come back to lobby then they will again force you go with the girl. So, I left and went to new royal bar. I reached the bar around 11, met mama named indri there, she took me club, the music and vibe was great, she asked if I wanted a girl, I asked here after some time and to my surprise she didn't force me. I ordered a beer and walked around the bar. There were around 50 girls. The price was 900 k and 1. 1 M. But seriously the quality of girls was really great, one girl caught my eye and I called her for having drink with me. One thing I liked about new royal they never forced me to go to room, I literally sat there with the girl for around one hour. The name of the girl was Citra. She was really good looking and knows English well. So I can talk to her and she slowly started getting flirty with me, getting close to me and around 12 her one hand was literally in my pants. Then indri came and offered me 4 M if I want to take the girl with me for whole night. I don't know what took me, I really wanted to have a night with her, I negotiated it to 3 M and I immediately took here to my hotel. Man, she was all over me in the cab and lift. It was one hell of a night. I didn't have to ask for anything, it included everything except BBFS. She was feisty in bed. We went to 2 rounds and 1 round in the morning. She left around 10 am. I gave have 200 k tip. I then slept.

    DAY 2:

    I woke up around 2 pm. I hit the pool. After some time, I wanted a massage, so I went to sugar spa as it was very close to hotel. At the first floor, manager came to me and showed rate list. 435 k for only massage, 515 k for FS and 900 k for both. I went for only massage. She then showed me photos of all the girl. I choose Rama. She then came down and took me to the room. I didn't know that but she got completely naked for giving massage. I got really turned on. She gave me massage, with some touching and licking, After the massage she asked if wanted a HJ for 200 k, I agreed. That was one hell of a HJ. I was finished in less than 3 minutes. The massage was also good, overall it was good experience. I came back to hotel and slept. I then went to emporium around 9 pm. I don't have word for emporium, everything is at other level. Quality of girls (all in there early 20's, mostly 9's according to me), ambience. I meet mama named joyce there. She took me to lounge, there were around 15 girls, the prices are 1. 2 M and 1. 4 M. I was not able to differentiate between them, I sat there for half and hour and then choose girl named caca. She was very friendly. In emporium you get half hour with the girl in sauna and one hour in the room. So, we went to sauna. She stripped down to bikini. She was looking so hot. We want to sauna. She gave me a light massage and sat on my lap. It was so good. She kissed and licked me. We then went to room. Everything is included, she gave me one hell of a BBBJ and I fucked her in 4-5 positions. She was very submissive. Overall best experience so far.

    After emporium I was so tired I then went back to hotel. In night I called a girl from mi chat for 800 k for 2 session. She was good in bed.

    Next day I had my flight in the morning.

    Overall, I really had fun. I would suggest everyone that instead of going to classic / travel go to emporium, even tough it is a bit expensive (not that much if you include tips you have to pay for DFK, BBBJ. At classic / travel). Also if you are planning to go emporium go early as they close sauna.

    I would come back to Jakarta again for mongering. Great place. Loved it.

    Thanks for the forum member for great information. Sorry for the typos.

    Enjoy!!

  6. #17792
    When I was there, a year ago now, the normally multi lane street was majorly disrupted with construction down the centre. It added some congestion due to there being less lanes each way, but overall only a couple of minutes extra travel time. And I think the hotel is offering good prices becuase of that, which I found out weighed the negative.

    Quote Originally Posted by DevSagar  [View Original Post]
    Guys, I know should have inquired in hotel section but taking the liberty to post it here. I am arriving in Jakarta on 2nd June and am booked for 6 nights in Holiday Inn Gajah Mada. My colleague is booked in Pullman, Thamrin and he is requesting me to do the same but I travel for both work and pleasure; he only for work meetings. I have been informed not to stay in Holiday Inn GM as metro construction work is going on and travel to that part would be a big hassle. Can any Gentleman confirm the same? This is my first trip to that country hence this noob question. Many thanks in advance.

    Regards.

  7. #17791

    Confirmation

    Guys, I know should have inquired in hotel section but taking the liberty to post it here. I am arriving in Jakarta on 2nd June and am booked for 6 nights in Holiday Inn Gajah Mada. My colleague is booked in Pullman, Thamrin and he is requesting me to do the same but I travel for both work and pleasure; he only for work meetings. I have been informed not to stay in Holiday Inn GM as metro construction work is going on and travel to that part would be a big hassle. Can any Gentleman confirm the same? This is my first trip to that country hence this noob question. Many thanks in advance.

    Regards.

  8. #17790
    Quote Originally Posted by LoveItHere  [View Original Post]
    Tremendous start. Second day here a street girl gave a gift I have not received for 10 years. STD. Went and got a shot but did not work so had to go back and get a shot and take oral pills for a week. I took around 9 girls. One wanted me to finish quickly which sucked because it started out great but at the 10 minute point her attitude changed. Two girls complained of pain within 7 minutes. It is not my size so it was either they were just complainers or they had an STD too which caused them pain and they did not know they were sick so only wanted missionary. Actually, had a hot 9 and made plans for the next day and had her Whatsapp but never saw her again. No Whatsapp reply. Looked for her for 6 nights. Had 2-3 fun girls.

    What I saw were about 5 mamasans and 3-6 girls. 2 mamasans had phones. 2 had no phones. 1 no idea. At times there were 3 mamasans and 1 girl so they were all trying to find a customer for the 1 girl. They all talk to each other so everyone knows your business. .
    Soon there will be more mamasans than girls and some guys travel from far for that?? LOL. Thats beyond me.

    Of course you get free STD from street girl. What did you expect?

  9. #17789
    Quote Originally Posted by FutureGuy  [View Original Post]
    I suggest you read my previous posts about street girls. You should always agree the exact amount to be paid in advance. Including transport.

    It's very unlikely that the police was after you with 6 guys, if your hotel is in northern Jakarte / Mannga Besar. Particularly based on a law that is not yet in effect and indeed requires the girl's family to make the first step.

    Almost no Classic / Travel girl will go bareback without an offer to pay more. Also if someone is hypothetically speaking more of an obese, balding, older guy with bad body hygiene (in particular: smelly breath) girls in general will be less comforting.
    Never read any post yet that mentioned that about half the street mamasans will follow and wait outside the guys hotel waiting for their money. But I noticed right away and posted the info because that is important info to know. I told the girls 3 positions. 1 girl did 1 position only because she said her legs hurt doing doggie style. 2 girls only did 2 positions. You can only negotiate so much before someone walks away. Example is when girls start listing all the things she will not do and you walk away. The opposite is when you list all the things you want and she walks away. You can not just say BJ. You have to say uncovered BJ, 10 minutes not 2, entire shaft not just the head. You can have it all on typed paper and have her sign it. You know what that means once you are in the bedroom? Not a damn thing! What does mean something is her facial expressions and her responses to your demands. That is a better prediction of what your bedroom experience will be.

    The 100,000 IDR for transport is stupid money. That is halfway to the airport and back on a motorcycle. That was not a miscommunication. That was her trying to be a thief.

    Why do you think 6 police officers were sitting around on the 2 floor doing nothing at 9 PM were doing then? I ask because I so rarely see police out anywhere here in Jakarta but amazingly had 6 at what was basically my front door. I was setup in the Philippines 11 years ago. The Criminal Investigation and Detection Group CDIG which is the equivalent of the USA's FBI. It was 5 guys plus one taking pictures as the bracelets were put on. The numbers are for intimidation that it is serious. They let me go after 11 hours before the next shift started so they did not have to explain why I was there. I promise you that less than 5% of guys have walked away from that without paying money. But I did. The Jakarta police would use the law that has been passed and 95% of foreigners would be scared and pay big money not knowing it does not take effect until 2025. I mentioned it on this site in case someone runs into my situation. Did you post this information in one of your prior posts? If not, you should have since you believe you know more than I do. I can assure you, you do not.

    I am not smelly, dirty, obese, etc and shave my junk. Granted I am not anything special, just clean cut and friendly to the girls. I did not ask or push for no condom because I was sick and then gun shy afterwards to try without. I gave 100 k tips. 4 girls would not repeat with me because I took too long to finish. Twice I took it to the 40-45 minute mark because the aircon was not working and nearly had a heart attack in the heat so gave 120 k. Looking back I should have given more. It was funny when the laser was on the girl and she was shaking her head "Hell NO not again! You mention the Classic / Travel girls may do bareback for extra money. Well DUH that is anywhere on the planet. Not a guarantee but higher probability. Since you know so much why not give some insight as to low, high, and average prices that you have paid?

  10. #17788
    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]
    DC, you're going to the wrong place. I've written a few times about the very generous cup sizes in Bali. Two options: either pay the big $$$s for an Insta-hoe or spend the time to meet a true Balinese up north.

    Enjoy. G.
    Hi G, perhaps you are correct but I almost always manage to find whatever I am looking for wherever I go. Sometimes I get referrals, tho, which are much appreciated. Hell, last time in Jakarta a few years ago I had a DIA superbusty who next time I saw her she brought her even bustier and younger GF for an amazing threesome. But some bloke went off and married her. You just never know!

  11. #17787

    Liar liar

    Quote Originally Posted by LoveItHere69  [View Original Post]
    Why do you think I have multiple names and accounts? What are those other accounts you think I have? I believe it would not be easy to have multiple accounts for long and why bother?
    Well your posting here with 2 different accts and you didn't get that message from that poster because it was sent to your other account, you're a dumb liar.

    And you are lying about knowingly spreading your vile STDs as well, have fun in hell dirtbag.

  12. #17786
    Quote Originally Posted by FFlintstone69  [View Original Post]
    Is this member using multiple names and accounts. Is that permitted here.
    Why do you think I have multiple names and accounts? What are those other accounts you think I have? I believe it would not be easy to have multiple accounts for long and why bother?

    Quote Originally Posted by ExpatAmerican  [View Original Post]
    Just got a text from my favorite girl in Jakarta. She's 23, light skinned, curvy, nice boobs works at Classic Spa. To me she is GFE to the max but YMMV. She is in need of money right now. If someone in Jakarta right now wants her digits, PM me. If you're a reputable senior member I'm happy to share.
    I might take her. I will even use a condom which is what I normally do. Send me a private message with her name and picture if you have one. I may have been with her already. Does she want me to take her at my hotel or at her work? If at work it would help to have her mamasan's name otherwise very hard to find her unless she has a very unique name. Kinda worried thou. If she was that hot she would be taken left and right. This one girl I have taken never gets a break. As soon as she enters the room from F-ing the mama grabs her and takes her to the next guy. I saw that happen next to me and got her name from the mama. Next time there I took her and as we returned from our deed the mama grabbed her and took her to her next victim.

  13. #17785
    Quote Originally Posted by ExpatAmerican  [View Original Post]
    Just got a text from my favorite girl in Jakarta. She's 23, light skinned, curvy, nice boobs works at Classic Spa. To me she is GFE to the max but YMMV. She is in need of money right now. If someone in Jakarta right now wants her digits, PM me. If you're a reputable senior member I'm happy to share.
    I got a bunch of PMs from people saying they will be in Jakarta some point in the future. Sorry if I don't reply to all of you. As my post states above, I was asking for anyone in Jakarta now who was interested.

  14. #17784
    Quote Originally Posted by LoveItHere  [View Original Post]
    What I saw were about 5 mamasans and 3-6 girls. 2 mamasans had phones. 2 had no phones. 1 no idea. At times there were 3 mamasans and 1 girl so they were all trying to find a customer for the 1 girl. They all talk to each other so everyone knows your business. The mamasans do not really know or trust the girls so she will follow far behind you to your hotel and wait for the girl outside so she knows she will get paid. Even if you call and have a girl delivered the mamasan may go with her, get dropped off just out of site, and wait outside because the motorcycle fee is the same for 1 or 2 passengers. I never walked holding her hand or with my arm around any of the girls but still everyone talked. Days later I told the girls to follow 3 minutes behind me to avoid problems of being seen together.

    One street mamasan called a girl to come then tells me I owe 100 k IDR for transportation and pay first. The girl would have taken a motorcycle and not a taxi. For 100 k IDR on a motorcycle I can go halfway to the airport and back. I called BS and walked from my hotel Infiniti north to Sumi Hotel. Then east and then south to Travel Hotel and asked hotel prices there. I think it started at 700 k. Hell no. When I walked out the girl was standing there in the parking lot so I went to talk to her and the mamasan comes out behind a car and I walk off heading south and they finally left back to Lokasari. She followed me 450 m almost half a kilometer.
    I suggest you read my previous posts about street girls. You should always agree the exact amount to be paid in advance. Including transport. My last impression of Lokasari was a vanishing street scene. The girls are still available. But it's best to get the Wahtsapp of a Mamasan so she can send pictures and deliver the girl to your hotel / apartment. In principle you just can pay the mamasan at arrival of the girl and most will be on their way, if you assure her that the girl will be on her way later.

    It's very unlikely that the police was after you with 6 guys, if your hotel is in northern Jakarte / Mannga Besar. Particularly based on a law that is not yet in effect and indeed requires the girl's family to make the first step.

    The reaction of girls and willingness to be more comforting for expectations of course depend on payment. Almost no Classic / Travel girl will go bareback without an offer to pay more. Also if someone is hypothetically speaking more of an obese, balding, older guy with bad body hygiene (in particular: smelly breath) girls in general will be less comforting.

    The impression of the cityscape is more or less accurate. Bangkok is a lot more bearable compared to the general state of disrepair, bland architecture and lack of sidewalks in Jakarta. Not even to speak about the much better touristic opportunities. There is no way I'd choose to live there permanently.

  15. #17783
    Quote Originally Posted by Menteng  [View Original Post]
    Two questions: 1) is it really that easy now to get a real Balinese girl considering their tight community?

    2) do you mean Lovina etc by "up north"?
    1/. Depends who is asking. I'd agree that a 70 yo grandpa asking a 21 yo girl with a education, job and morals to come to his hotel room tonight will struggle. Guys who have time on their side, are more socially acceptable and have more Game than just asking "berapa?" do much better.

    Is it easy? No. But it's not impossible either.

    2/. Lovina, Singaraga etc. As a gross generalisation, yes, I found the further north / north west, the larger the Tata's. South west tend to be taller and slimmer. Again a generalisation. Maybe it's the Javanese influence?? Who knows??

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